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First thoughts: Hat in hand

Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:36 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Carrie Dann
*** Hat in hand: Obama today will be in Philadelphia, where he and Biden will sit down with Democratic and Republican governors, who want the federal government to help their states during these difficult economic times. Per the Obama transition office, Obama, Biden, and Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D) will make brief remarks at the top of the meeting -- which, besides pooled coverage at the beginning, will be closed to the press. But the governors aren’t the only ones who are begging for cash today. The automotive chiefs are back on Capitol Hill, hoping for a do-over after their disastrous previous trip to Congress. One big difference from last time: They aren’t arriving by private plane. But choosing a different mode of transportation is much easier than convincing a skeptical Congress on the need for a bailout.

*** We're all Georgians now: Reaching 60 Senate seats was always going to be a daunting challenge for Democrats this cycle, even in this kind of anti-Republican climate. And today's run-off in Georgia between incumbent Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) and challenger Jim Martin (D) is the most difficult of the remaining hurdles for the Democrats to achieve that feat. (Regarding the other remaining hurdle, Al Franken trails Norm Coleman in Minnesota by 340 votes in the Star Tribune's count and 73, according to the Franken camp's count.) There are at least three things working against Martin. One, Democrats in recent years have had a rough time winning statewide office in this red state. Two, Chambliss just narrowly missed crossing the 50% threshold needed to avoid the run-off; by comparison, Martin won 46.8%. Three, that 46.8% came when Obama's name was on the ballot, and today it won't be. Indeed, African-American voters in the early-voting period for the run-off didn’t come out in the numbers they did for the general election. In short, Obama's decision not to campaign for Martin probably tells you all you need to know about this race. Of course, stranger things have happened in politics, but Chambliss is the clear favorite. Polls in Georgia open at 7:00 am ET and close at 7:00 pm ET. 

*** Recruiting matters: By the way, outgoing Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Chuck Schumer has put together quite the two-year record, no doubt. And he really hasn't earned much criticism considering he's picked up more than a dozen Senate seats in two cycles (he’s currently at +13). But for these final two races that are standing between Democrats and 60 Senate seats, it's not exactly two stellar Democratic recruits. In fact, had Democrats found better candidates in both races, Democrats might not be in this current situation. Minnesota would already be in the bag, and Georgia might have been won on Election Day.

*** 'Left' out: Some liberals might have cringed yesterday seeing Obama unveil a national security team consisting of Hillary Clinton (who voted in favor of the Iraq war), Bob Gates (Bush's current Defense secretary), and Jim Jones (who is close to McCain). The truth is, however, that the president-elect is simply following through on a promise about changing the tone and creating a bipartisan atmosphere in Washington. Yes, Obama opposed the war in Iraq and probably owed his victory in the Iowa caucuses to that fact. But outside Iraq, he never pandered to the left as much as they thought he did; the left simply heard what they wanted in Obama. Some examples that come to mind: his reversal on FISA, his support for merit pay for teachers, and his championing of faith-based services. One other thought: With Gates staying at the Pentagon for about a year most likely, Obama has to pick a Democrat to succeed him, right? That would seemingly rule out someone like Chuck Hagel for the post. By the way, what is Hagel in line for, if anything? He does seem to be the one Obama Republican without a gig.

*** What’s left: Speaking of Hagel and other gigs, Obama has now rolled out about half his cabinet. Now left are the lower-profile posts, including Education, Labor, Energy, Interior, Agriculture, Transportation, and Veterans Affairs. (We've reported that Obama has filled Commerce and HHS, but he has yet to officially announce Richardson and Daschle.) Does Obama hope to get the same amount of attention for the final round of cabinet appointments as he's gotten so far with his economic and national security rollouts? We're guessing not, but the posts that are left are some of the issue meat-and-potato deals where the future of energy policy, health-care policy, and education policy could be formed.

*** It’s recess(ion) time: Yesterday, it was announced that the U.S. economy officially sank into recession last December -- which according to the New York Times, means that “the downturn is already longer than the average for all recessions since World War II.”  We have two questions. One, how stupid do these think tanks and government entities think the public is now that they tell us now we've been in a recession for the last year? Two, do the Obama folks wish they didn't get so much credit last week for the rise in the stock market? Credit last week, blame this week? Both were overstated. The Obama folks ought to stop trying to take credit for stock market rises at this point in the transition.

*** Looking at 2010: With the governors meeting with Obama, today is probably as good of a day as any to break down the 2009-2010 gubernatorial races. A couple of weeks ago, we noted that if Democrats don't hit 60 Senate seats now -- by winning in Georgia and Minnesota -- they're likely to achieve that feat after 2010, given the Dems' favorable map for the upcoming Senate cycle. But while Democrats might have the upper hand with the Senate races two years from now, Republicans appear to have the early advantage when it comes to the upcoming gubernatorial contests. Currently, Democrats hold a 29-to-21 edge in governorships. But those numbers will likely change after the 2009 races in New Jersey (where Corzine could be vulnerable) and Virginia (where Republican Bob McDonnell looks tough to beat), and after that the 2010 cycle, when Democrats have to defend 20 seats (at least 10 of which will be open seats) and Republicans have 16 to defend (with at least seven open seats). In fact, with legitimate pick-up opportunities in AZ, KS, MI, OK, TN, VA, and WY, Republicans could win back a majority of governorships by 2010. (The Dems' best pick-up opportunities right now seem to be in CA, HI, NV, and RI.) Why do these governor races matter? We have three words for you: 2011 congressional redistricting.

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Jerry, ARNOLD replaced the liberal and now its hasta la vista baby for caleeforneeea. republicans suck as much as demorats and dont forget it give it 4 to 8 years and the voice of AMERICA will sing a new song called "dont blame me" like the BUSHIES are now you would never know half the country voted for him and have as much fault as he does.
I know you both can’t be stupid, I mean you found your way to the ‘internets’; but have you ever thought about maybe ‘googling’ or fact checking ANY of the emails you see?  Or any of the crap that you read?  This took me less than three minutes.  I am not intentionally trying to be rude, merely pointing out that with a minimum amount of effort – you can find actual facts to support or dispel any truth or myth, respectively.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_more_soldiers_die_during_bill_clintons.html
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Gary Schear, bozeman Montana (Sent Monday, December 01, 2008 6:01 PM)  Good One!  You’ve still got it!
Clara Kansas City, MO (Sent Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:00 AM)

Gary, everything you can find on the internet is true? You are easier than I thought. How do you discern the fact from fiction. Your small world facts from a small state population of Montana explains your being so simple minded.
Graham Chickers (Sent Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:52 AM)

I have to call this comment what it is - ignorant and uninformed.  The stock market went down yesterday mostly due to the OFFICIAL announcement that the country is in a recession.  Yes, most people knew it.  When news of that nature filters to those trading stocks, their first reaction is to sell.  Do you not understand this, or are you more of the type of person who selects "talking points" in order to state your view.  If the latter, it's pathetic.  

Wonder why no one DEMANDED President Bush to step up to the plate? He is afterall our President. Isn't he?
Pat, Boston, MA (Sent Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:54 AM)

Pat, it amazes me how "conveniently" people forget this fact.  They do it to promote their views, not to get to the truth or to demand action from the president THEY voted for.  And thank you for your later comment about the stock market.

JTatEHT (Sent Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:54 AM)

I've also not heard the Obama camp taking credit for the jump in the stock market last week.  What I've heard is from bloggers, not from the Obama team itself.

Eric, I sometimes agree with you, but have to disagree with you about Gates and Jones.  I believe they bring the right kind of judgment and continuity to the table that Obama needs in those positions at this point.

Denise, what is your definition of minyan (I'm assuming you mean minion).  One definition of the word can refer to being "followers" while another definition is "a highly regarded person".

Craig Liste, Diane didn't go far enough for you.  There are plenty of capable people within the auto industry to take over, whether their experience came from Ford or Toyota.  And yes, they are Americans.  When other companies have CEO's that run their companies poorly, they are replaced.  What is the matter with asking for accountability from them?  What is the problem with asking these CEOs to run their companies responsibly or suffer the consequences (such as being fired).  Most businesses I know are run this way.  If you don't do the job, they find someone else.  Do you have a problem with that fact?  Or would you rather the company just run itself into the ground like other major companies in the past (did you forget Enron? Tyco?)  Some people have short memories when it's convenient for their argument.
WE HAVE MORE TO DO:

Democrat Jim Martin is in a runoff against Bush Republican Saxby Chambliss for the Senate seat from Georgia. Bush's Saxby Chambliss voted against spending a few measly dollars to provide health care coverage for Georgia, and Americas needy children. But he supported wasting hundreds of billions of your dollars, and the life BLOOD of Americas finest on an unnecessary war in Iraq.

At a time when 47 million of you have no health insurance coverage, and over 100 million of you with insurance are just one major illness away from complete financial destruction. Bush and Saxby Chambliss voted to make the heart break of bankruptcy relief even harder for all of you to use.

You see, Bush and Saxby Chambliss, and his family don't have to worry about their health care coverage. They have the finest health care coverage your tax money can buy for them. Courtesy of you. The American Tax payer. In fact, no one but the super rich can afford the health care coverage you the tax payer provide for Saxby Chambliss, and his family for FREE! with your tax dollars.

He supposedly works for you. But he doesn't think you and your family should have access to the type of taxpayer supported FREE health care that you provide for him, and his loved ones for FREE!. Doesn't that just make you BURRING MAD!

Vote for JIM MARTIN for US senator from Georgia. Vote for JIM Martin who will be on your side. Vote for JIM MARTIN who will work with President Obama and a majority congress for you. Vote for JIM MARTIN most of all for your-self, your family's, friends, and loved ones. Vote for JIM MARTIN for a better America, and a better World.

Don't let Saxby Chambliss make a chump out of you by tricking you into voting against your own best interest. Saxby chambliss is NOT! on your side. He's not one of you. He is on George Bush's side. And we all know what a catastrophe the Bush Chambliss administration has been the past 8 years.

Contact all your family and friends and do every thing you can to see to it that JIM MARTIN and GEORGIANS! take that senate seat back for Georgia, and America. No matter where you live in America. This is important to you. President Obama will need all the help, and power you can give him to try and fix this catastrophic mess that the Corrupt Bush Chambliss administration has created.

As I said before you will have to vote in overwhelming numbers to overcome the Bush Chambliss "Let Them Eat Cake" vote fraud machine. Vote early if you can. Then help everyone you can get to the polls and vote for JIM MARTIN. You and your loved ones don't have to be Saxby Chambliss's victims anymore.

I know you will get it done. Just like you did for President Obama.

God bless all of you

jacksmith - WORKING CLASS... :-)
Sandy Moore from Indy, where are those 50 million people?  Are you referring to Iraq?  They're liberated from Saddam Hussein, but the country itself is not yet liberated. As long as terrorists continue to fight within its borders, it cannot be considered "liberated".  I suppose you consider Afghanistan "liberated" as well.  If either country were truly "liberated", there would be absolutely NO NEED for American troups to still be fighting in either country.
But outside Iraq, he never pandered to the left as much as they thought he did; the left simply heard what they wanted in Obama.
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You obviously haven't been paying attention, First Read...

"The Left" as you like to call it, is not some one-note monolith.  Many on that side favored Edwards initially, as well as Dodd and Kucinich.  They knew Obama was more of a pragmatist than some of the other Dem candidates, but eventually came to support him.  Many "libs" know that Obama won't govern from the left as much as some would like, but the overall direction in governanace will be in a more progressive direction.

Of course, feel free to keep dumbing down the big picture.  It's good practice for David Gregory as he (allegedly) prepares to take over MTP.  Blech.

To the morons that suggest that Obama needs to step up and is somehow responsible for the stock market going down?  Don't forget, it's YOUR guy, the Village Idiot from Crawford who is still in charge, even though he is hiding out in an undisclosed location with his buddy (and codefendant, Tricky Dick).

Jerry, you are still wrong and still a loser.  You do know that California has a GOP governor, don't you?  How has Texas (with their GOP governor) done with illegal immigration?  Yep, thought so....
some of you people are real idiots, the stock market went down yesterday because they announced through that report that we are in a recession, that is it.  
What about nominating Sarah Palin as Secretariat of Energy. That's one department people knows she is well qualified. After all, she sat on the Alaska energy board (prior to being Governor) and knew enough to expose corruption there. Also, her Energy record is very good as Governor.
Doesn't the state Legislatures set the new Congressional districts?


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