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Mukasey discusses Mumbai, Guantanamo

Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:37 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Pete Williams

Attorney General Michael Mukasey, meeting with reporters for the first time since he collapsed while delivering a speech two weeks ago, said, "I got down to the last paragraph of my speech, and the lights went out."

The lights in the room remained on, but that's how he described the sensation of fainting.

"I was hauled off to the hospital against my will, and I spent the rest of the evening arguing with my doctors about getting released," Mukasey said.

He said he still does not know what caused him to faint.

On the terror attack in Mumbai, the attorney general said FBI agents are there to gather evidence and help in the investigation. He said the U.S. has jurisdiction over violence against Americans as the result of a terrorist attack, meaning the U.S. could bring criminal charges against surviving terrorists found to be responsible for the death of Americans.

Asked about potential threats during the transition or inaugural period, Mukasey said, "The threat is what it's been," and said terrorists attack when they are ready, not according to the calendar or schedule of events.

And as for closing down the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Mukasey said he strongly believes that no detainee should be released into the U.S., acknowledging that such a policy complicates the task of finding other countries willing to take the detainees.

And he said if a military commission imposes a short sentence on a detainee considered to be a dangerous terrorist, it would be suicidal to release such a person even after the detainee had served his sentence.

Is that justice, he was asked?

And he answered yes.

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The lights went out on Mukasey's soul a long time ago.
That's just great !!

Time overdue to shut down the Guantanimo torture chamber

Many of those detained were NOT TERRORISTS

The Quigars from China were apparently just nationalists, much like the Tibetan opposition to Chinese rule

Why ere they held wihtout trial and tortured ??

Dim witted Mukasey is a big part of the problem and a 'torture-enabler' for the Bush Admin

Truth Commission, anyone ?
He may have had a TIA. This is something similar to a stroke but often is undetectable and the victim may or may not ever have another. We found out about them when my mother had one. The cause is unknown. If he takes care of himself he may never have another one. No one can be sure. Perhaps it was brought on by stress. One would think it very stressful for those in the Bush Administration right now.

Either way I, for one, am glad he is doing better and wish him continued good health.
Methinks Mukasey has a different definition of "justice." It's one thing to say that it'd be dangerous to free the detainees (now that we've tortured them), and quite another to call it "justice" to keep them in prison without any legal grounds. What about the rule of law that Americans are so proud of? Can't wait to get Eric Holder in as AG to whip the DOJ back into shape. I didn't like Ashcroft, the AG in Bush's first term, but he was a saint compared to incompetent Gonzo and this clown.
Michael Mukasey:  You too have only 48 days in office. Then it will be time to clean up the DOJ as well.  Eric Holder will be busy undoing all the secret deals and nonsense done by Gonzalas.

BTW I don't believe anyone is suggesting that Gitmo detainees are going to be released to live in the US.  Don't you think they will be sent back to where they came from?
Ron Indiana

Check back to Jeb, Jeb, Jeb. See what Paul predicts for us and Cheney.
It will be good to see this individual go very quickly. His version of "justice" is very immoral, and criminal in nature. The Bush-Cheney Justice Department is in name only. This department has crossed lines of humanity, morality, common ethics, and dignity. Holder is going to be very busy next year, and the mountains of corruption over the last 8 years will be shocking. Holder, and his new staff had better be sure that no documents are being shredded. Holder will need to start building up criminal cases against Bush, Cheney, Mukasey, and Gonzalas. Justice delayed is justice denied. If justice is not applied equally to every citizen. Then it is not worth a thing. No one, no matter what their position, is above the law. That is fact America!
Only Palin could save us from the mess we are in.  Dumb people voted against her.  

Palin/Jeb Bush 2012!!!
Mukaseys' lights went out when he became AG!  He still doesn't know what water boarding is, and doesn't want to know.

His soul is doomed, that's why he "fainted"....WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?  He's probably seriously ill, mentally!

The Gitmo detainees can be released in your area of town, Mukasey.

Not to matter Mukasey, Holder will describe it to you and prosecute!  But I suppose W will pardon you for any offenses you may have committed.  Ignorance of the law is no excuse!
These are not the only things that Mukasey will be talking about next year as well. When the Holder Justice Department is done with Mukasey. He is going to need more legal help/advice, than Halls has cough drops. Remember Mukasey, you will need to keep up your legal strength next year. That is fact!
The man can't even tell the truth about what happened during his speech. Either the paramedics, and people at the event were lying regarding his state of consciousness, and level of alertness when he did regain consciousness, or Mukasey is lying. My guess is Mukasey's lying. It's his own personal business what caused his health situation, but don't lie about it!
The terrorists, or "detainees", will be released to go where ever they please to go. You'll then be seeing them getting killed off by US troops as they resume their terrorist activities, well, at least for the next 40+ days or so. After Obama gets in office, hostilities will end. At least US hostilities. The terrorists will be still be walking into hotels, killing civilians, and blowing up things. I'm sure we, the US, could meet with them somewhere, and talk this stuff out.
Its time we faced what we have been doing for the last 5 years, torture, illegal imprisonment, kidnapping, The geneva convention has been a a55 wipe
for this corrupt administration. GWB and Dick Cheney
should be tried for thier war crimes. I do come from a military family, I have strong feelings for our military men and women and can only imagine how we would feel if our familey members were snatched off a battlefield and imprisoned for life, A lot of the men
at Gitmo were sold to us by drug lords in Afganastan, for whatever reason. We have to get to the bottom of this mess, one of the worst made by Bush and Cheney. We dont even know who is a terrorist and who isnt. We still have to find a way to let the innocent go home.
And of course we cant let them go inside the USA. They must go home, and if they wernt terrorist I am sure they are now, so we will probley be fighting them on another battleground, still we have no choice but to do the right thing. As I said the Biggest mess made by the sic Bush and Cheney.
marty
The War on Terror

Those four words are what is wrong with America's approach to these radical groups. Terror is not a region or an individual."The war on terror" has created a culture of fear in America. The Bush administration's elevation of these four words into a national mantra since the horrific events of 9/11 has had a pernicious impact on American democracy, on America's psyche and on U.S. standing in the world. Using this phrase has actually undermined our ability to effectively confront the real challenges we face from fanatics who may use terrorism against us.
The damage these four words have done is infinitely greater than any wild dreams entertained by the fanatical perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks when they were plotting against us in distant Afghan caves. The phrase itself is meaningless. Terrorism is not an enemy but a technique of warfare.A political intimidation through the killing of unarmed non-combatants.
Fear obscures reason, intensifies emotions and makes it easier for demagogic politicians to mobilize the public on behalf of the policies they want to pursue. The war of choice in Iraq could never have gained the congressional support it got without the psychological linkage between the shock of 9/11 and the postulated existence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
George Bush would never have been re-elected in 2004 if Americans did not believe that changing heads of state would enable the terrorists to attack us. Bush and Rove somehow got a majority of Americans to believe Bin Laden and his army were poised to cross the atlantic and coming knocking on our doors.
The events of 9/11 could have resulted in a truly global solidarity against extremism and terrorism. A global alliance of moderates, including Muslim ones, engaged in a deliberate campaign both to extirpate the specific terrorist networks and to terminate the political conflicts that spawn terrorism would have been more productive than a demagogically proclaimed and largely solitary U.S. "war on terror" against "Islamo-fascism." Only a confidently determined and reasonable America can promote genuine international security which then leaves no political space for terrorism.
I feel that our response to 9/11 was correct. We knew where they were. We knew who was harboring them. We struck quickly and decisively with full support of the international community. After that we began to completely blow it. We invented "The War on Terror" and the paranoid notion to attack them wherever they are regardless of intelligence and the blessing of the world community and where has that gotten us?

We are less safe than we were 5 years ago.

Americans can no longer differentiate between Muslim and terrorist.

Our standing in the world has diminished and with that the cooperation and sharing of intelligence.

Vague answers to who is responsible for the Mumbai attacks. "Well we dont really know who it was but it darn sure looks like them al-qaida types!"

We all need a change of ideology as much as our government needs a bold change of strategy.



BTW I don't believe anyone is suggesting that Gitmo detainees are going to be released to live in the US.  Don't you think they will be sent back to where they came from?
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Probably, so they can start planning their next attack on our country.  Someone better be thinking long and hard about this one.  It could result in utter disaster.
The incompetent Dept of Injustice will be promptly replaced. That fact that some arrangements must be made for "dangerous" detainees is just that, a fact.

It is absurd that we have permitted the paranoid mentality that existed after 911 in some quarters to remain in place for over 7 years. Gitmo has undermined our credibility in most of the world.

Mulkasy has proved to be just another of W's poor appointments. Hopefully, as several above have suggested. Holder will act promptly to restore our image in this area.

Keith O. pointed out months ago that when Habeous Corpus is suspended, the Bill of Rights becomes moot.
For those that say, but these people were enemy combatants, I ask where is the proof of that assertion! Without a trial and access to an attorney and the evidence, the process is an inquisition.
What kind of medical advise is Mukasey getting? Why would they let someone his age who just experienced passing out on stage leave without a proper explanation as to why this occured? The would still be doing test if they couldn't find an explanation. He's lying. He's been told why this happened. He's choosing not to share that medical information with the rest of us, which is his right; but he should just say that and not lie about it.


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