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Congress: An agreement in 'concept'

Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:16 AM by Mark Murray
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“The White House and congressional Democrats yesterday reached an ‘agreement in concept’ on a plan that would throw a government lifeline to the faltering Detroit auto industry but require the auto giants, their workers and creditors to quickly negotiate a path to profitability or face the prospect of bankruptcy,” the Washington Post front-pages. “The agreement, which is set for a vote in the House today, calls for the government to speed $15 billion in emergency loans to the car companies as soon as next week, and for President Bush to immediately name a car czar to oversee the bailout.”

“The companies would be required by March 31 to cut costs, restructure debt and obtain concessions from labor sufficient to report a ‘positive net present value,’ according to a senior administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity because final language was still under discussion. If the firms failed to make progress toward that goal, the agreement would require the car czar to revoke the loans and develop a new plan that could include the option of seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, the official said. If the companies could not agree on steps to guarantee their long-term survival, they would be denied additional federal assistance.”

The Hill: "Several Senate Republicans, including Sens. Richard Shelby (Ala.) and John Ensign (Nev.), expressed disappointment earlier on Tuesday over the draft language of the bill. Senate Republicans will hold a policy lunch on Wednesday, where some senators may make a pitch to mount a filibuster. It's unclear if the package has the 60 votes necessary to cut off debate, or whether all Democrats support the legislation." 
 
The stickiest of the sticking points in the bailout negotiations appear to have been mostly resolved, but Roll Call reports that "Senate Democrats said they were reluctant to announce any deals until Senate Republicans had a chance to review the measure, and until the Bush White House had a chance to try to sell it."

"The Frank-versus-Shelby argument is a microcosm of the complex politics and competing interests at stake as Congress prepares to vote on the auto loans. It emphasizes what has become a geographic -- not just partisan -- divide: lawmakers from states with foreign-owned auto plants tend to oppose the measure, while those from the Upper Midwest and strong union states tend to back it."

More bad news for Rangel. "The House ethics committee is expanding an investigation of Rep. Charles Rangel, chairman of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee. The ethics panel issued a statement Tuesday saying it had voted to expand an already far-ranging probe into the New York Democrat to examine whether he protected an oil drilling company from a big tax bill when the head of that company pledged a $1 million donation to a college center named after the congressman," the AP writes. "The move means the Rangel inquiry will likely stretch well past early January, when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., had previously said she expected the matter to be resolved."

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This is nice. The Big 3 will burn through this money in about 3 months, then they'll be back in Washington begging for more.

I hope the exec Christmas parties for the Big 3 automakers are festive this year. Please execs, spare no expense to make sure you are all happy and gay during the holidays.
Lets hope Dodd and Franks factored in inflation before handing out the money. A billion dollars just doesn't go very far anymore.
Yay!  More free money for corporations who will take said money and go on an all-expenses-paid relaxation getaway to some swank resort.

Nah, I'm not too cynical.

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Will the republicans EVER stop the nonsense and start caring about our country and the American people??
Their beliefs, outdated policies and narrow mindedness have almost destroyed our country, yet they continue on with their egotistical business as usual.
We have shown them we do not support their tactics, irresponsible actions but they continue to poster, pander, point fingers and refuse to acknowledge what they have done to our country and unify for our survival.
Bail-out? Yes. Taxpayer money? No. Federal regulations dictate terms? Yes. Make big oil buy stake in the auto manufacturers. Fire top execs at GM and Chrysler. Fold all companies under Ford top management. Keep brands that are viable from any. Ditch those that are not. All Blue Collar and Middle Management stays working. Suppliers stay working. Failed leadership goes. Good leadership is rewarded. We do not need internal competition between a "Big Three". We have global competition. Let us try to keep up with the global picture.
The bail-out: Can't follow the free market principle of let them fail.  Can't go with the notion of the government buying the industry, that smacks of socialism.  So let's do something in the middle, something that has never been tried before, something that will keep people enployed for the next three months. Will it save GM and Chryler? Seriously doubt it. Ford may likely be competitive.  Nobel economist Paul Krugman doubts the auto industry will recover.  I agree with Paul.
This is crazy!!  I am so tired of these companies getting away with years of bad business practices, shipping work to foriegn countries and cheating the American workers out of a decent good paying job but yet turning around and forcing us to bail them out.   Go ask the taxpayers in all those foreign countries where your new facilities are located for money and leave our shoestring budgets alone!
I don't profess to know all the answers as some of you posters here, on the loan to auto companies. But one thing I have noticed is that Republican Senators from sates that have foreign auto companies in their states( such as Alabama,Tennessee,Kentucky) are very much against the loans. All of them want to see the unions go bust, mush like their God Ronald Reagan broke the air traffic controllers union. After eight years of Bush and Republicans, I can't be for anything they want.
In normal circumstances I'm not a fan of corporate welfare, but it's hard to me to see how we shouldn't spend 1.5% of the money that's already been handed to the financial industry WITHOUT CONDITIONS to save an industry and the jobs of 3 million Americans.  As bad as the economy is with 5.7 million out of work, how bad would it be with 8 million unemployed?  And don't forget, many of the auto industry jobs are the kind of decently paying, solidly middle class jobs that are so lacking in the "ownership society."

I believe that Republicans forcing this legislation to a minimal, bridge loan status might be better in the end.  In January, with a new President and rid of 10 GOP Senators who could care less about working families the government will be free to do what needs done instead of what fits a failed Republican economic theory or pander to import manufacturer like those in Senator Shelby's state.
How about this, take back the 15 billion from AIG who threw 2 parties and give it to the Big 3. If they need more money take some of VP Cheney's illegal profits from Haliburton. It is time to stop trying to break up unions and everyday working families and stick it back to these greedy white collar executives. If Paulson, Bush, and the Repukes won't play ball then tell them what will happen come 1/20/09 when real government comes sweeping in. Remember We (Democrats) won and they (Repukes) lost BIG!
katiec, some people disagree that the Auto Industry should be bailed out, its that simple. Democrats and Republicans both have dirty hands. however I agree that we should not bail out the Auto Industry unless major Union and Management concessions are made, otherwise you are throwing good money away. How can you expect the same old tired business practices to work, profits are made by producing less than the selling price, they have not done this and therefore unless thier operating costs are lowered and they produce something they can manufacture and sell for a profit they will continue to falter.
I hope Bush communicates with Obama regarding his choice of this "Car Czar". Would hate for whoever Bush picks to be fired in a few weeks.
"The chairmen and ranking Republicans on both the House and Senate defense appropriations subcommittees recently wrote to Mr. Gates to voice their support for the F-22, cautioning that “the last thing our nation needs is to terminate jobs in this time of such economic uncertainty.” nytimes.com 12/10/08. so here is the dividing line: no bailout for the unionized detroit auto workers objected to by those southern state senators where state tax revenue was spent to induce foreign auto plants to locate but a continuation for f-22 funding while also not questioning the bailout for the wall street investor class.
Obama has indicted that he will review the federal budget line item by line item. I think we should review all of the automakers' cost structures, line item by line item. I think that the transplants have advantages that the U.S. automakers do not have. How many transplants are paying retirement costs? In 15 years the transplants will have that burden or opt out and drop it on the federal government. How many transplant vehicle plants pay zero or reduced taxes just to build in MS,AL,KY,SC,IN,etc. Let's level up the real information and stop dealing in half facts.
will with the big three going under. why should we bail them out. they did't help the people out when they sent there jobs out of the country. and are those same countrys going to help.well no they need the money too. so lets bring those jobs back to the U.S.A and then help the big three out. and get the people back to work.  
I read or heard a great idea: HAVE THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRY BAIL OUT THE AUTO INDUSTRY (BIG THREE)!!!
When are people going to realize that Shelby has his own financial reasons for hoping the Big 3 fails?  His state is home to Mercedes, Honda, and Hyaundai.  He GAVE them over $300 million just to show up in Alabama.  He GAVE over $100 million to the fishing industry using federal, not state, funds.  Shelby is out for what is good for Alabama but could give a rats ass about the rest of the United States.  
Finally, I will leave you all with a nice little tid-bit about Dickie Shelby that can be found in Wikipedia- Conflict of interest: title insurance industry
Shelby, in his role as chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, & Urban Affairs, opposed proposed bills that would have helped reform the title insurance industry and help reduce the costs homeowners pay, particularly when they refinance their mortgage.[6]

Shelby earns between $100,000 and $1,000,000 per year from Tuscaloosa Title Co. Inc., a title insurer he founded in 1974.[7] His staff stated that his opposition to the bills is unrelated to his relationship with Tuscaloosa Title.

The guy is everything that is wrong with Washington, period.  This is also the same scum bag who was under investigation in 2002 for leaking Top Secret-Classifed CIA and FBI information to Fox news about possible terrist attacks.  I could go on and on about this good ol' boy blow hard jackass.


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