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McCain pollster revisits '08 campaign

Posted: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:18 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mark Murray
As Republican pollster Bill McInturff sees it, two differences would have made last month's presidential contest much closer -- had the financial collapse occurred on Dec. 15 instead of Sept. 15, and had the Republican National Committee been able to raise more than $200 million in the final two months, without any restrictions on how the McCain campaign could use it.

But, of course, neither happened.

McInturff, who was McCain's pollster and who has since returned to become the Republican half of the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, says the McCain camp was in the process of unveiling its "Chicago" ad on Sept. 15. That advertisement, which linked Obama with Tony Rezko and even Rod Blagojevich (!!!), was the beginning of an effort to raise this question with voters about Obama: What else do we not know about him? "It was not the killer ad, but it was the right opening," McInturff said. Yet the economic collapse that began on Sept. 15 forced both campaigns instead to spend the next month reacting to that crisis.

The Obama campaign, McInturff notes, was better able to get out its message during the crisis by being able to spend a whopping $100 million-plus during the first two weeks of October. By contrast, because it decided to accept public funds during the general election (giving it just $85 million to spend from September to November), the McCain campaign couldn't compete financially. The money that the Republican National Committee raised helped close the gap, but those funds came with restrictions, which forced the McCain camp and the RNC to produce "hybrid" ads that were split between criticizing Obama and congressional Democrats.

McInturff said those ads were "horrible" because they didn't present viewers with a consistent message.

McInturff made these remarks at a breakfast meeting with reporters sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor. During the Q&A, he acknowledged that the campaign's polling numbers bottomed out after House Republicans killed the initial financial bailout package and after Colin Powell endorsed Obama. And he said he knew McCain wouldn't win on November 4 after seeing the initial exit polls that were released at 5:00 pm ET on Election Day.

To win, McInturff noted, the exit polls were going to have to show McCain narrowly ahead in Indiana, tied in Virginia, and up big in both Kentucky and Georgia. Those things didn't happen: As McInturff expected, the exit polls were inflated for Obama, but even after shaving several points off the Democrat's numbers, he knew Obama was well on his way to winning approximately 350 electoral votes.

Despite the grim outlook for McCain, McInturff defended the campaign memo he penned a week before the election, which argued that McCain's poll numbers were improving to the point where "we are headed to an election to an election that may easily be too close to call by next Tuesday." He said the campaign's internal polling had McCain down by 11 or 12 after Powell's endorsement, but those numbers kept improving until Election Day. The memo's purpose was two-fold, he said: 1) to argue that the race wasn't in the double digits as some public polls showed, and 2) to demonstrate that "John McCain had a pulse."

Also at the briefing, McInturff talked about the GOP's upcoming challenges with Latinos, younger voters, and moderates and independents. "If you can't win the center, you can't win an election."

Asked what Obama's potential vulnerabilities might be as president, McInturff responded that sometimes a person's strengths -- e.g., Obama's calm temperament -- could later turn out to be a weakness. He also said that the White House "bubble" could be a problem. "There is a big difference between how you operate in a campaign and what happens in the White House."

Yet McInturff cautioned that Republicans should probably wait a few months before taking out their knives to combat Obama. "The comeback doesn't have to start the first day after the swearing-in."

And given that about half of Republican Iowa caucus-goers are religious conservatives, McInturff predicted that Sarah Palin might be tough to beat in that first 2012 GOP contest. Despite her poor poll numbers among swing voters, he said to expect her to try to reach out in some way to these voters if she is indeed serious about a 2012 bid. 

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I have news for Mr. McIntruff. Most of the Republicans I know voted for Obama because of Sarah Palin. 2012 may be even bigger for Obama if she runs.
"the McCain camp was in the process of unveiling its "Chicago" ad on Sept. 15"

And if the Nazis had lasted a few more months they'd have the atom bomb. Society is better off with both outcomes.
My thoughts exactly Ian (@12:43 PM)- Can you imagine all that is going on and John McCain and Sarah Palin being in charge? What a nightmare!
There were so many things that tanked McCain, and rightly so.  Coulda, shoulda, woulda!  Ultimately McCain himself made huge mistakes, but fortunately for the country his lack knowlege and understanding screamed loud and clear.  But let's not credit McCains undoing to him and his cronies - OBAMA ran an amazing campaign, one that will go down in history and future campaigns will study, if they aren't doing so already.  Let's hope that Obama already has people working on a new one for 4 years ahead.
Just get over it!  The ReThugs were not going to win as the American people finally decided to vote for the "smart candidate" instead of the "one I want to have a beer with".
Uh I think the problem for Mccain was the Republican brand is tarnished and discredited with a large majority of americans...for too long it represented the silent white racist majority that is slowly dying at a rate of 4000 a day and their kids are less ignorant than they were
Funny how, depending who you were for, shaped one's thinking.  I agree that Colin Powell was a major blow to the McCain campaign. But the McCain campain destroyed themselves!  Sarah Palin was not vetted and a very poor choice. Joe the Plumber was no help, Negative ads, I saw a lot of them in Indiana, hurt the GOP instead of helped McCain. Doing Rev Wright ads would not have helped.  Creating a positive message would have helped, but the campaign was mostly about creating fear about Obama.  John showed he was too old when he stood next to the younger man.

The thing that cost the GOP the election was the choice of Sarah Palin,the never-ending negativity and no ground game. Not good to make light of community organizers.
I voted for McCain but regret it now.  As a Christian Conservative Republican I will never vote for a RINO or a NEOCON again.  I think Hillary Clinton is more in touch with American values than John McCain, Newt Gingrich, or Colin Powell ever were.  At least she seemed to understand complex issues, was generally pro-American, and isn't a Free Trade Fanatic.  

If the Republicans put up another RINO/NECON hybrid in 2012 I'll vote for Ron Paul or write in Pat Buchanan.  I'll definitely vote for Sarah Palin the Primary and the General Election though.  The way the McCain Campaign sabotaged her by not letting her speak to the press and then only putting her on with shills for the Left - Gibson and Couric - was beneath contempt.

Palin/Buchanan 2012
I voted and worked for PE Obama because I believed in his message and trusted him to carry it out to the best of his ability. I continue to feel that way. I am very tired of the continuing excuses for the outcome of the Presidential election. Perhaps, just perhaps, the man won because no matter the state of the union at the time there were those of us who believed in this candidate.
Colin Powell endorsed Obama because of Powell's ability to see the direction Cheney/Bush/McCain had taken the country, the destabilization of the Middle East, and divisiveness

NO amount of money could have brought McCain a win. Had Cheney/Bush/McCain  won we know now with Cheney's confession, we be on our way to Iran!
Sure, had the financial collapse brought about by eight years of incompetent Republican-controlled government not occurred, more people would have voted Republican. That's kind of the idea behind democracy: people vote based on how good a job they think the candidates have done in the past.

But it sure was lucky for America that the financial crisis came to a head on Sept. 15 rather than on Dec. 15, after yet another incompetent Republican government might have been elected.
After seeing McCain on Letterman show recently, you got the feeling that he is happy now that he didn't win because of all the problems that are occurring right now for Obama to deal with it. Can you imagine McCain and Palin at the helm right now?? OUCH!
WHO CARES?????
All this what if!!!!!! Who cares move on we all have a new PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!
And now Colin Powell is telling Republicans what they need to do and what they've done wrong, because in his estimation they need to be more socially moderate.  John McCain is about as socially moderate a Republican as he could hope to find.  Why don't we quit pretending what Powell's endorsement was really about.  
I have news for Mr. McIntruff. Most of the Republicans I know voted for Obama because of Sarah Palin. 2012 may be even bigger for Obama if she runs.
eagle1776 (Sent Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:39 PM


Those weren't Republicans. Apparently you dont know too many. That lady fired up the base to which are true republicans. The reason McCain got as many votes as he did was because of her. 47% of the country thought that .
NO MATTER WHAT THIS SORE LOSER SAYS OBAMA IS THE BEST  PERSON FOR  PRESIDENT I THINK HE WILL DO GREAT . WE KNOW IT WON'T BE EASY THIS COUNTRY IS A MESS . BUSH AND CHENEY DID THE COUNTRY A HORRIBLE JOB. THEY LIED AND ROBBED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND GOT THOUSANDS KILLED THE WHOLE SHOULD BE IN PRISON . THEY ARE THE REAL CROOKS AND ROVE IS ONE OF THE  WORSE ONE WHILE HE IS SETTING ON HANNITY THE RACIST CABLE SH..T SHOW ACTING LIKE IS AN ADVISOR PLEASE YOU JERK.
The neocons and intolerant religious right will never support a centrist-leaning candidate in the Republican primary.  Because of this, the Republican party will marginalize itself and go on to lose elections by nominating candidates like Palin who excite the base but can barely break 45% in the general.  Worse, there is absolutely nothing the GOP can do about this.  Their base's invariable response to defeat is to get even more smashmouth confrontational, as Limbaugh and the other puppetmasters incite them to do.  
Every well educated person I know, voted for Obama in the election (my sisters supported Clinton in the primaries and my brother voted for the Libertarian candidate, but he is nuts.) However, I know many very nice, kinda clueless people who voted for McCain because they consider themselves conservative (poor as church mice, no health insurance, but still afraid of "socialism".) As long as there are folks who don't follow politics closely, or understand the issues, there will be Republican victories. I think Obama won because every last bright person in America gave money and/or voted for him. Its sad the election was as close as it was.
Obama won by nearly 10 million votes. A break here or there wasn't going to save it for McCain.

This wasn't about Obama's money or the financial meltdown (which the GOPers seem to treat as some sort of unavoidable force of nature, rather than a consequence of their own policies and mismanagement).

Obama was the superior candidate and represented a clean break with the Bush years. McCain never had a chance and did nothing to improve his odds by pulling shenanigans like the Palin Pick and the whole contrived Joe the Plumber thing.  
McCain is happy he did not win because he realizes he did not have the intellect required to meet the problems that are surfacing everyday.
Regardless, you repugs can do nothing but run a filthy campaign and the good people of the U.S. are sick and tired of your same old crap.
And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his a#@ when he hopped.

What's amazing to me is that McCain's campaign and most of the Republican party still can't realize that what killed his bid for President wasn't the campaign's inability to run more negative ads. It was their total lack of new ideas and a cohesive message.

They could never spell out how they were going to take us in a different direction than what the current administration was already taking us.

A majority of Americans wanted change. McCain didn't offer that.

Plus, contrary to what the right wing will have you think, Sarah Palin did drag him down with moderates and independents.

Aside from the staunch conservatives,people saw Palin for what she was, and they weren't interested in what she had to say.
It is mind-numbing to me that the Republicans can't accept that their philosophies are out of touch, ineffective -- Supply-Side economics/Reagonomics was and is a disaster.  You can blame media ads and meltdowns, but in my heart, voters threw away fear and embraced hope.
The problem with McCain's campaign is that there was little that I saw that was saying of what he was going to do.  There just wasn't anything that said to me that McCain has some grasp of the future, economic issue other than borrow and spend (and voodoo economics), and use of more "soft power."  There were also too many negative ads and attack.  Where were the ideas about moving forward?  
So, the McCain pollster is complaining about unfair campaign laws that McCain wrote? That is funny. I am glad Obama won, he seems to be the best person for the job, considering everything that is going on. Here's an idea about why McCain lost...he was too busy using the Republican playbook that people are tired of. Trotting out his wife to say that Obama has run the dirtiest campaing she has ever seen (considering the Current President's ability to link the McCain's adopted child as being John's out of wedlock love child, I wouldn't consider anything Obama said as worse than that), not vetting the VP candidate, stopping the campaign to help with the financial crisis (the first effort of which was in the house, not the senate), the character assasination (he's an elitist, even though McCain owns more houses, more cars and is more wealthy; He's a celebrity--even though McCain appears more often on Late night talk shows and has considered himself a media darling). What else? Oh, how about the fact that Obama offered proposals on issues, and McCain only offered that he was different....didn't say how, didn't offer any proposals of his own, but he tried to give us the smoke screen (second debate, anyone...I know how to win wars, I know how to fix the economy, I know how to get Bin Laden, etc) Another question, how come every time his attacks on Obama backfired, he had to keep reminding us of his time in Hanoi? How many homes do you have....well, there was a time, for 5 years, I didn't have a home. Nice, don't answer the question.

Face it, McCain lost on his own lack of credentials and his own bad strategies. It just so happened that the electorate was paying attention this cycle.
I know of several people, conservative moderates, who would have voted for McCain but for Palin. They didn't hate Palin because she was conservative; they feared her because she was so incredibly unprepared to be a heartbeat away from taking over the Presidency from a 70 plus year old cancer surviving POW.

Palin can memorize all the talking points between now & 2012 that GOP operatives can pump into her brain, but they can't pump in intelligence. Trying to push another idiot on us in this day and age should be treason. We don't need another empty suit, we need someone who has a thought or two and knows when to tell her/his advisers to fark off. Bush wasn't that President and Palin wouldn't be either.

The GOP is killing themselves with their anti-elitism. And for what? To crave to the shrinking uneducated white man vote? I bet if they were having heart surgery they'd want an elite surgeon and not Joe 6 Pack.
McGruff...
Don't forget he selected a doofus for his running mate...
That had a horrible impact on independents and moderate republicans. But, you don't want to offend her because conservatives have NOTHING else going for them. Good luck in: 2010, 2012,2016, etc. losers.
>>>Those weren't Republicans. Apparently you dont know too many. That lady [Palin] fired up the base to which are true republicans. The reason McCain got as many votes as he did was because of her. 47% of the country thought that .
IntheMiddle, TX (Sent Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:33 PM)

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So what you are really saying is that "true republicans" are anti-intellectual, xenophobic, bible-thumping, gun-toting, mono-cultural, undereducated, bigots who wear their fear and ignorance of the world around them like a badge of honor.  That doesn't say much for you or your party.

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