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'Twas the seventh week of recount...

Posted: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:46 PM by Carrie Dann

From NBC's Carrie Dann, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
The holiday week may have visions of sugarplums filling many people's minds, but it's still rejected absentee votes and challenged ballot count spreadsheets dancing in the heads of Minnesota's politicos. Here's a quick briefing on where things stand in the recount that hits the seven-weeks-past-Election-Day mark tomorrow:

Q: Who is ahead?
A: As of Friday afternoon, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune count gives Franken a 251-vote advantage going into tomorrow’s meeting of the state canvassing board to review challenged ballots withdrawn by both candidates during the recount.  Franken's team predicts that, coming out of that meeting, they will still hold a lead of 35-50 votes.  That number is based on their internal count of withdrawn challenges, which are in the process of being reallocated into the respective piles of the candidate for whom each ballot was originally cast.  The Coleman team did not comment today on how they expect tomorrow's count to shake out, but they are reserving hope that two outstanding disputes -- over ballots that may have been counted twice and over mistakenly rejected absentee ballots -- will be resolved in their favor to give them the upper hand. 

Q: How many ballots are left to count?
A: After tomorrow's meeting of the state canvassing board, assuming that no unplanned disputes arise over the spreadsheet of reallocated withdrawn challenged ballots, every ballot cast on election day will have been counted.  But there are still an additional 1,600 mistakenly rejected absentee ballots that have not been included, and the Minnesota Supreme Court set December 31 as the deadline for all parties to jointly determine how to count these absentee ballots. (There is some doubt that the Coleman and Franken camps will be able to come together on this, although both sides have publicly pledged to honor the court's order that they act "in good faith" on the shared agreement; if they don’t, they could be subject to sanctions, though it remains unclear exactly what those sanctions would be.) 

Q: So what happens tomorrow?
A: Two things:  One, the state canvassing board reviews a spreadsheet of reallocated withdrawn ballot challenges and -- hopefully -- releases a final tally of the counted votes. That's the number that the Franken campaign expects to see +35-50 votes in their favor.  Also tomorrow, the state's Supreme Court meets to consider the issue of about 100 votes that the Coleman team believes were accidentally counted twice.

Q: When is the election certified? Who certifies?
A: We have an easy answer to the second question: The state canvassing board certifies. But we don't have an answer to the first of when the election is certified. "It's up in the air," the secretary of state's office tells NBC News. The earliest possible date? If there are no further lawsuits or disputes, the count could technically be final by December 31st, the deadline by which both campaigns must agree on how to handle the accidentally rejected absentee ballots. 

Q: How likely is that?
A: Keep in mind that the back-and-forth in Minnesota has now gone on over a week longer than the Florida recount, which concluded on December 13, 2000. 

Bottom line: don’t nix your New Years’ Eve party plans to watch the news, just yet.

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Please stop comparing this to 2000. In 2000
Gore tried to have targeted recounts in only two places and close all counts where he was narrowly ahead. That is not what Fla law said to do. The Fla court bowed their heads in liberal homage to the fabricated process made up by the Gore-ites, ignoring their own state law. The US Court simply handed Fla their own law books and said "read this and stop making stuff up."  I am not aware of either side in Minn trying to pull a creative Gore thing and make up legal procedure on the fly. Stop the comparison to 2000.
For those calling for the recount to end pronto, or suggesting a flip of the coin: As a Minnesotan, I'm delighted to see real democracy in action.  The Canvassing Board did an amazing job, the live-streaming video of the entire procedure made everything more transparent than a piece of glass  Something to celebrate, don't you think?  P.S.  I'd rather it take weeks...and count every vote accurately...than any other alternative.
This is a message that all republicans in the future should look too!  No more elections will go unchallenged! If they would have counted every vote in Florida 8 years ago then we would have never had the last 8 years (What a refreshing thought). When an election is this close it is imperative to make sure the right person won. We've seen over the last 8 years what can happen when the wrong person wins.
First Jesse Ventura, next Al Franken. I'm sure very soon the voters of Minnesota will elect Homer Simpson to office. And I though New York is a screwed up state!
Well if Coleman prevails, we will recount again, and again, and again, unitl we have franken as the winner, then we will certify and all chellenges will be closed.

Remember the washington gov? count till a democant wins, then stop.

If you have an election, and a recount, and a re-recount and you get three different numbers, then the last number is no more or less valid than any other.  The ONLY VALID NUMBER IS A VERIFIABLE, REPEATABLE NUMBER.  Unless you're in hillsyland, then the only valid number is the one that favors her.
If Minnesota had a runoff between the top two like Georgia does, this whole process would have been over by now.
Ok, let me see if I get this straight.
Coleman wants to disallow votes (no mater the outcome).
And Franken wants to allow all votes (no mater the outcome).
Hmmmm,  which one's "More American"?
Darnell,

Excuse me???? Which party is stealing an election??
Make them both half-senators... Coleman can be senator on Sun/Tues/Thurs, and Franken on Mon/Wed/Fri (then they both have Saturday off and MN can just deal with no representation that day)

Case solved, etc.
I'm no Rep. or Dem. and voted Obama but Frankin wasn't any good on SNL.  Why in the hell should he be a senator???
Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter...Stuart Smalley (aka Al Franken) is a joke.  And the only reason he competed for the job is because of the sheer hatred for President Bush.  With one of the lowest all time approval ratings in congress, why not put one more idiot up there.
Darnell Walkers:  It is a myth that the Democrats stole the Washington gubernatorial election.  Unlike Bush-Gore, Franken-Coleman, or other basically tied elections, in Washington there was a full trial before a superior court judge.  The Republicans' lawyer argued in opening statement that fraud had been committed.  Both sides presented ample evidence of errors that favored one candidate or the other.  But there was never proof of fraud, and the trial judge so held.  And in 2008 there was a "revote" between the same two candidates, in which the Democrat, Gov. Gregoire, won handily.  
To SB and others,

While the Florida recount was "ended by the Nine Wisemen", later analysis by the press indicated that George W Bush did in fact win Florida.  So, perhaps it is a shame that the Supremes ended the recount, but the effect was the same in any event.  Except it gave MoveOn, etc. things to carp about for the last eight years.

WRT Minnesota, the recount process is being followed to the bitter end.  So why don't you just Move On from what happened eight years ago?
The Senate on the Democratic side is filled with dopes, so having three more dopes in that room won't make much of a difference.
             Darnell Walkers, Atlanta GA
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Compared to the idiots still residing at the White House, this group looks like the smartest bunch yet. Bush can't even give a press conference without screwing it up.


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