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Transition: How Panetta's playing, Part 2

Posted: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:17 AM by Mark Murray

The Washington Post front-pages, “[C]urrent and former intelligence officials expressed sharp resentment over Obama's choice of Leon E. Panetta as CIA director and suggested that the agency suffers from incompetent leadership and low morale. ‘People who suggest morale is low don't have a clue about what's going on now,’ said CIA spokesman Mark Mansfield, citing recent personnel reforms under Director Michael V. Hayden.
On Capitol Hill, Democrats on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence were still stewing over Obama not consulting them on the choice before it was leaked Monday and continued to question Panetta's intelligence experience. Vice President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. acknowledged that the transition team had made a "mistake" in not consulting or even notifying congressional leaders, and Obama telephoned committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and her predecessor, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), yesterday to apologize.”

The Los Angeles Times learns more about folks who turned Obama down for the CIA post, and it notes that Obama's defense of Panetta seemed to tick off some inside the agency. "As the controversy unfolded Tuesday, there were new indications that Panetta was not Obama's first choice for the job. A number of candidates, including former U.S. counter-terrorism official Richard A. Clarke, declined the post. Seemingly caught off-guard by the fallout, Obama moved to vigorously defend the Panetta pick and started an intensive lobbying campaign to convince lawmakers that the onetime senior aide to President Clinton was a viable candidate to lead the CIA.”

“Obama sought to deflect the criticism by again calling attention to Bush administration intelligence programs that he plans to dismantle. But in seeking to soothe the controversy, Obama may have ruffled other feathers. Taking a swipe at previous directors, Obama said his team would work to ensure that U.S. spy agencies were ‘no longer geared toward telling the president what the president wants to hear.’ The remark appeared to be aimed mainly at former CIA Director George J. Tenet, infamous for telling the president that the U.S. had a ‘slam dunk’ case against Iraq's alleged illegal weapons programs. But the comment will probably rile the CIA rank and file.”

The New York Times: "’[T]ransition officials said Mr. Obama also intended to keep the C.I.A’s No. 2 official, Stephen R. Kappes, a highly regarded former Marine officer and agency veteran. The transition officials spoke on condition of anonymity about the personnel move, a plan that could help defuse criticism inside the C.I.A. about Mr. Panetta’s own thin background in intelligence.  Mr. Panetta’s lack of experience had drawn the sharpest criticism on Monday from Senator Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat who is chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and whose career in California politics tracked closely with Mr. Panetta’s for years. After hearing directly from both Mr. Obama and Vice President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. on Tuesday, Mrs. Feinstein seemed to soften her opposition slightly, but she did not indicate whether she would vote to confirm Mr. Panetta.”

“Aides to Mr. Obama conceded that they had mishandled the process, a significant stumble of his otherwise smooth transition. Mr. Biden said it had been a ‘mistake’ not to notify Mrs. Feinstein and others about the decision."

Does the fact that Feinstein so quickly backed down make the point of those that thought she was mostly angry about Panetta because she wasn't told in advance?

The Boston Globe editorial page throws its support to Panetta, calling him a "good choice." "In selecting Leon Panetta to be the next director of the CIA, President-elect Barack Obama has opted for sound judgment and political savvy over intelligence experience." More: "Panetta can be counted on to enforce the rule he set down last year, when he wrote that the United States 'must not use torture under any circumstances.'" But it also recommends that Panetta have "the right deputies under him" like Deputy CIA Director Stephen Kappes. 
 
Hillary Clinton's confirmation hearing appears will be held Wednesday, Jan. 14th, Bloomberg and the AP report. Napolitano's (for Homeland Security) is tentatively scheduled for the 15th, it reports. Tim Geithner's (for Treasury) will also likely be next week, but that one is not set yet.
 
Here are some of the dates for the upcoming Senate confirmation hearings:
-- Thursday, Jan. 8, 10:00 am ET: HHS: Tom Daschle (Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee)
-- Friday, Jan. 9, 9:30 am ET: Labor: Rep. Hilda Solis (HELP Committee)
-- Tuesday, Jan. 13, 10:00 am ET: Education: Arne Duncan (HELP Committee)
-- Tuesday, Jan. 13: Energy Secretary: Steven Chu (Energy and Natural Resources Committee) 
-- Tuesday, Jan. 13, 10 a.m. ET: HUD: Shaun Donovan (Banking Committee) 
-- Jan. 14: Veteran Affairs: Gen. Eric Shinseki (Veterans' Affairs Committee) 
-- Jan. 14: State: Sen. Hillary Clinton (Foreign Relations Committee) 
-- Jan. 15: Interior: Sen. Ken Salazar (Energy and Natural Resources Committee)
-- Jan. 15: Attorney General: Eric Holder (Judiciary Committee) 
-- Jan. 15: Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano (Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee) (tentative) 

Bloomberg News looks at Tim Kaine -- who is set to take over as DNC chair -- and his role in fundraising as the chairman of the Southern Governors' Association, "a group that raises money from tobacco, oil, energy and pharmaceutical companies in exchange for access to governors and other state officials… Participants in the group’s Corporate Affiliates Program also include mortgage lender Freddie Mac ... Kaine’s continuing involvement with the SGA as Democratic National Committee chief may raise questions for Obama, who targeted special interests during his campaign..."

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This sounds like a report from seventh grade.  Good God.  All the whining.  Are these people Senators and senior intelligence officials or bench-warmers on a little league team?  And George Tenet's people are complaining about some slight?  Really....Really?
Leon Panetta will make a great CIA chief, so much better than the garbage in that position the past 8 years.  The CIA needs to be cleaned up and that can never be done by insiders.  Time for an outsider to come in and clean up the mess the current administration of lawbreaking tyrants have made.  Time for some real intelligence to get back into the CIA.
Seems like the media loves drama, including you guys @ MSNBC/NBC. I used to love MSNBC/NBC as a whole, but not so much anymore, I only tune in now for Kieth Olbermanns show. Just look at the heading of the other post "Congress: the Burris circus"? Please, it's only a "circus" because the media is making it into one.
I just love when FR prints that the LA times learned more about who Obama had offered the CIA job to Some one else.No names, no quotes,no faces.Where did they learn this,in a school,at lunch,by the pool?What did you expect the boys at the CIA to say,every thing running like a top according to them.What Obama has seen is what a mess the Bush admin has made of the CIA, that it will take a manager to put this bunch back on track,plus getting rid of the hand picked Bushies out of the building.The yes men are on there way out.I'm quite sure Obama has thought hard about how to clean up this mess,and will give Panetta all the tools he will need .We have seen what happens when you put yes men in High places,Tenet,Brownie,Albert,to name a few.
I can't blame Richard Clarke one little bit for not wanting the CIA job.  Why would he volunteer to work with people who, when criticized, circle the wagons and deflect blame onto anybody who dares to asks questions.  Clarke already knows about this firsthand.  

Not to mention having to work with US senators who apparently are petty enough not to vote to confirm a nominee for the job because they weren't personally consulted.  (That's bad enough, but  I'm guessing the REAL reason they don't like the Panetta nomination because they are afraid that their own role in the torture and surveillance culture of the past 8 years may be exposed.)  

Anyway, I wonder if we'll ever see the day again when serving country is more about country than it is about ego aggrandizement and imaginary feather-ruffling.  
It amazes me that some of the people whining about this appointment are the same folks (some Democrats) who stood idly by while the Bush administration engaged in warrantless wiretapping, torture, and all of the other crimes that Bush/Cheney should be tried for.  Perhaps Obama is sending a message to them: guilty is guilty no matter what side of the aisle you're on.

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Obama is such a rookie. This is what happens when you elect a man with zero experience. He hasn't a clue how Washington works, and there are many Washington Insiders that will take his administration down to it's knees if he treads on their turf, be it Democrat or Republican. This naive babe in the woods named Obama is going to be taken to the woodshed and be taught a lot of lessons in the next few years. Obama's little "Change" mantra may have got him elected, but he's going to find out that the one that's going to Change is him, and not the Washington Insiders.
I actually hope that the pick of Leon Paneta, was actually a poke in the eyes of Di Fi and J. Rockerfeller,  Shame on both of them for not doing thier very important job of oversight.  SHAME.
PANETTA FOR C.I.A. IS OBAMA'S SNEAKING HIS LEFT-WING DOMESTIC AGENDA INTO AMERICA.    
PANETTA WILL CASTRATE THE C.I.A. AND ENDANGER AMERICA.
Fienstein voted for Bush's choice for CIA director Porter Goss. He was a political hack with no intelligence experience and he got dumped quickly when his incompetence became intolerable even to Bush. So she has no business criticizing Panetta.

And neither do the media hacks, few of whom challenged Goss' appointment -- or any of the Bush's other many blunders over the past 8 years. But now they're nitpicking and whining about ever decision Obama makes.

It looks like the corporate media is trying to compensate for being Bush's lap dog for 8 years by turning into a bunch of yapping chihuahuas for the duration of Obama's presidency.
I believe Di Fi is more upset that she wasn't consulted or informed about the appointment of Panetta than the fact that she believes Panetta is not qualified. Leon Panetta is a good manager. I believe he will raise the esteem of the CIA and keep it there. He will rely on Stephen Kapps for the "technical" part of CIA leadership. I see more teamwork being required in the Obama Administration. Not so much of "I'm the boss and you'll do as I say" that we have seen from the past. No one person has all the skills and knowledge to handle complex organizations as they are today. A team lead by a true leader who sees the assets each team member brings will succeed and all will benefit.
I agree with the posts above from Eric, Mia, Jessie and Molly. The CIA does need an outsider who is close to the administration, not an insider who will only circle the wagons again. Panetta is a moral guy with a clean record. With good prof spook deputies, He'll do just fine.

Lol the senatorial egos. Note that Keith O. mentioned that Barack HAD alerted the #3 man on the Senate Intell committiee. I do not recall his name. This does suggest that the roles of Feinstein and Rockafeller regarding the torture issue played a part in their being left out of the loop here.

Clearly, Barack seeks to change the tone of the dialog between the intel community and the WH. Bravo Barack, we don't need any more cherry picked intel!
Who care what Feinstein or any of the congressfolk and CIA think about President Obama's appointment of Panetta as Director of the CIA. For the last eight years the agency has degraded to a third rate joke and congress has been nothing more than a rubber stamp for bush. They should all shut-up and do the peoples work to the best of their ability.
all the drama will be done in the next couple of days on these issues. diane's ego was a little dented. so what. she will get over it. burris will get seated.

harry reid mishandled it as most things he has screwed up during his term as majority leader. harry reid is a truly weak leader.

panetta will do a good job. he will clean up that mess at the c.i.a. to much cronyism. dianne and jay hands aren't all that clean either. she wants her hand pick in there. investigations are going to bring a lot to the light. everything comes out in the wash sooner or later.

research diane's husbands business and the military contracts he was awarded. some possible issues on the horizon. she isn't sleeping that well now days. she turned her head when torture was going on for a reason.  
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According to Maddow last night, Feinstein has her own problems - considering she stood on the sidelines and rubber stamped Tenet and every other Bush administration illegality - so get over your little self, Diane. there is a new sheriff in town.
panetta will castrate the c.i.a.
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another statement made without thought or knowledge of an appointments record. panetta is a shrewd and skillfull manager that is moderate thinking. he is not a leftist liberal fringe politician. a person would have to read, research, think and comprehend facts to come to such a conclusion that panetta would be the last person to harm the c.i.a. he will do that department good. some people just like to make noise.
So the wittle bittie spies panties can be in a bunch over the hiring of an outsider to come and straighten out their waterboarding, renditioning, fantasy-scare behinds? Maybe someone will catch them bugging the phones of their nasty neighbors and ex-wives.
Our "Founding Fathers" wisely provided for civilian control of the military.  Had they foreseen the emergence of the covert services (NSA, CIA, etc.) they would have realized that it is much more important to maintain independent elected control over those institutions.  Intelligence agencies have subverted their own legitimate governments far more often than have military coups.  These agencies are essential for our security, and so is maintaining a tight grip on them.
Mr. Panetta is an excellent and appropriate appointee.
I actually hope that the pick of Leon Paneta, was actually a poke in the eyes of Di Fi and J. Rockerfeller,  Shame on both of them for not doing thier very important job of oversight.  SHAME.

marty,columbia,s.c.
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I like your style marty. It's all about payback and oneupmanship. Forget the country. Forget the fact that Panetta doesn't know what the heck he's doing.
Pacheck, Huntington Beach, Ca. -  For the last eight years the [CIA] agency has degraded to a third rate joke.


That would expalin all the terrorist attacks on US soil and on our foreign embassies in the last 7.5 years. What? There were no attacks? How can that be? Third rate joke indeed.
Clarke would have been a disaster at CIA.  Panetta is an inspired choice for two reasons: first, he knows how crummy the decision support to the President is (4% secrets from CIA useless in making budget choices, 96% spin from stakeholders); and second, he knows as only a former D/OMB and CoS WH can know, what the President and Cabinet and Congress "need to know."  See my two page Op-Ed on "Intelligence for the President--AND Everyone Else," and my 16-page white paper on "Fixing the White House and National Intelligence," both at www.oss.net/HILL.
Last time I checked I think Feinstein will report to Barack and not the other way around. She's just as guilty by allowing the Bush administration to virtually rape the constitution and torture people.....hmmm, could THAT be why she wasn't consulted about his choice? Heads up Feinstein, there's a new sheriff in town and he's watching YOU, too.
Di Fi and Rock will not matter in the end.  Panetta's a good solid choice.  We have to rid ourselves of the the rooster who refused to watch the hen house!  Why consult them at all.  I don't believe it was an oversight!  Obama's transition team did the right thing.


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