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Agenda: Selling the stimulus

Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:20 AM by Domenico Montanaro

Here are more excerpts of the speech Obama will deliver today on his stimulus plan: “If nothing is done, this recession could linger for years. The unemployment rate could reach double digits. Our economy could fall $1 trillion short of its full capacity, which translates into more than $12,000 in lost income for a family of four… In short, a bad situation could become dramatically worse.”

More: “I understand that some might be skeptical of this plan. Our government has already spent a good deal of money, but we haven’t yet seen that translate into more jobs or higher incomes or renewed confidence in our economy. That’s why the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan won’t just throw money at our problems – we’ll invest in what works. The true test of the policies we’ll pursue won’t be whether they’re Democratic or Republican ideas, but whether they create jobs, grow our economy, and put the American Dream within reach of the American people. Instead of politicians doling out money behind a veil of secrecy, decisions about where we invest will be made transparently, and informed by independent experts wherever possible.”

In an interview with John Harwood of CNBC and the New York Times, Obama also said this: “[W]hat we are concerned about is making sure that the money is spent wisely, that there's oversight, that there's transparency. We are going to use this money to temporarily boost the economy, to create or save three million jobs, but also to put some down payments on things that we should've been doing over the last several decades that can help create a more competitive US economy.”

The Boston Globe on Obama's stimulus speech today: "President-elect Barack Obama faces a delicate task today as he pitches his economic recovery plan in a major address: He must underscore the urgency of the recession without further unsettling the nation's shaky financial system."

The Los Angeles Times takes a look at the timing of passage for the Obama stimulus plan. "Obama will make the case for urgent congressional action in a speech today. And House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) is so concerned about a delay that she threatened, in an interview Wednesday, to cancel her chamber's Presidents Day recess and hold the House in session if legislation had not reached Obama's desk by the Feb. 16 holiday."

The New York Times picks up on Obama's promise to tackle entitlement spending. "Should he follow through with a serious effort to cut back the rates of growth of the two programs, he would be opening up a potentially risky battle that neither party has shown much stomach for. The programs have proved almost sacrosanct in political terms, even as they threaten to grow so large as to be unsustainable in the long run. President Bush failed in his effort to overhaul Social Security, and Medicare only grew larger during his administration with the addition of prescription drug coverage for retirees."

The New York Times also notes how one of Congress' Dem deficit hawks, Budget Chair John Spratt, is just shell-shocked by the push for more deficit spending. Spratt: “The thing I wanted to ask,” he said, “was if there was some limit which we should be wary of? Is there some limit in terms of how much borrowing and debt creation we should take on?”

More: "To a degree that would have been unimaginable two years ago, economists and politicians from across the political spectrum have put aside calls for fiscal restraint and decided that Congress should spend whatever it takes to rescue the economy. A startling range of name-brand economists -- Martin Feldstein of Harvard and a top adviser to Republican presidents; Mark Zandi of Moody’s Economy.com and a former adviser to Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign; and Robert B. Reich, secretary of labor under President Clinton  -- urged Democratic lawmakers on Wednesday to think more boldly than ever before.”

“‘It pains me to say that because I am a fiscal conservative who dislikes budget deficits and increases in government spending,’ Mr. Feldstein told the lawmakers. But he said, ‘Reviving the economy requires major fiscal stimulus from tax cuts and increased government spending.’”

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Obama's economic stimulus plan is far more intelligent than idiot boy bushwhacker's tax refund for people to go out shopping.  Idiot boy's plan didn't work and we watched him waste hundreds of billions with his clueless attempts to fix the massive financial meltdown he created.  Now the repugnant ones need to stop their whining and get behind Obama's intelligent economic recovery plan.
The "American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan"? That's what they are calling it? Why not call it "Load Are Kids Up With Debt They'll Never Recover From Plan".

Good thing, or maybe's a bad thing, that America's credit card has no spending limit.
They said on the news this morning that Obama is inheriting not only a depression, but also the equivalent of a Peral Harbor, also. This is what George Bush is handing his successor. Thank God it's Obama and NOT McCain/Palin. I don't know WHY anybody would want to follow George Bush, but I'm very thankful that it's Barack. Jan. 20th can't come soon enough.
Obama still hasn't figured it out. And he won't, because he's a liberal. The government doesn't create jobs. Individuals that own businesses big and small create jobs. Lower taxes, less regulations make these businesses more profitable, and allow them to hire more people. And the businesses grow based on the needs of their customers. The government just funnels money to politically connected hacks. They take their share of the money and trickle what's left down to the next guy. Nothing is produced, and the money is wasted. Except, someones going to have to pay it back, right? Obama has an answer for that too. The rich! The rich will pay!! Don't think this is true? Check out the state where Obama comes from. That's exactly how it's done. And now Illinois is broke, no money, and nothing to show for it.
Whenever there are huge amounts of money ready to be put to good use be sure it is protected from the most dangerous kind of crook.....Greedy old bastards with  ink pens. Hope there are watchdogs with balls and teeth this time around.
What pains me is that the Republicans were willing to spend billions on Iraq with nothing to show for it and now with a Democrat in office want to be financial conservative and not bail out the auto industry, or help the middle class get back on their feet.  Their ideology shifts, depending who is in power. If the Republicans ever, yes ever, want to return to power, the must abandon Reagan trickle down economics and begin to focus on improving the middle class standard of living. It is about regulating greed on Wall street and the banking industry. It's about putting out some venture capital so green projects can grow.  Since I doubt that they will abandon St. Reagan, they will miss the opportunity of creating a stronger America.
800 billion dollar bail out and me as a tax payer for
42 years & counting will get a measley $500 and that will go to the taxes I am currently paying for having to withdraw my 401k early because of a lay off (Penalty). I cannot see the justification and I voted,campaigned and contributed to Obama. The buck stops hear. I cannot afford to keep my house and $500 will not save it.
HELP ME WITH A BAIL OUT
Diane from Illinois - They said on the news this morning that Obama is inheriting not only a depression, but also the equivalent of a Peral Harbor, also.


Then, stop reading Huffington and the DailyKos. The country is barely in a recession. Not sure what the "Peral Harbor" reference is? Did the Japanese attack again?
Thank God Obama is going to be the president!  He will get us out of this mess, and from here on out, things will improve.  
Thank God Obama is going to be the president!  He will get us out of this mess, and from here on out, things will improve.
 
Mike

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So which do you like better? The grape kool-aide or cherry kool-aide?
Mishka Mehrens Anaconda MT - HELP ME WITH A BAIL OUT

Of course. First though, a couple of questions. Are you major bank ceo? Do you run an automaker? Are you the head of a union? Are you politically connected to the point where you make major contributions to a political party? Do you own an oil company?

If you answer no to all these questions, then no, you are not eligible for a bail out.
Does the goverment have all the answers no. My question is at what point will people quit feeling sorry for themselves and become involved in finding the much needed solutuions to help not only ourselves but our neighbors. A famouse quote comes to mind, "Lead, follow, or get out of the way!"
Not sure what the "Peral Harbor" reference is? Did the Japanese attack again?
              Paul M., Altlanta Georgia
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I see I struck a Republican nerve this morning. No, the Japanese didn't attack again; but we are wasting billions of dollars in Iraq. Then there's the other war in Afghanistan that was never completed. Sorry, but the Republicans have really screwed up this country for many years to come. It's going to take a Democrat to fix it.
The Japanese own half of America. In a way, they are attacking as we blog.
The "American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan"? That's what they are calling it? Why not call it "Load Are Kids Up With Debt They'll Never Recover From Plan".

Good thing, or maybe's a bad thing, that America's credit card has no spending limit.
TJ Moss, Cincinnati Ohio


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Ah, TJ have you been living in a cave?  Bushs economic plan was the "Load Are Kids Up With Debt They'll Never Recover From Plan". Obama's recovery plan is to save THEIR children from bearing the same burden.  This country will remember Bush for a long long long time - and not in a good light.
It's going to take a Democrat to fix it.

Diane from Illinois


If the way the Democrats handled the Burris "issue" is any indication, you're going to be very disappointed.
Mishka Mehrens Anaconda MT - Help you with a bailout?

It is tough that you got laid off. Your situation is not unique and the idea behind a stimulus package is to reverse the trend and create new jobs. The Obama stimulus package attacks our economic problems from a number of different angles.

First, there is the $500 tax cut. The idea is to get people to spend that $500, which in theory causes people to buy products, moving inventory from businesses, and giving them a reason to build more and keep people employed.

Next, it invests in our nations infrastructure. This solves several problems. First, much of our infrastructure has been neglected and is in need of work. The only way it is going to get fixed is with government money - federal, state, and local. The stimulus boosts the level of federal support and makes in the improvements more immediate. Second, those projects create jobs. That means less unemployeed people and more money being pumped back into our economy.

Finally, his plan is adding tax benefits to certain businesses. Again, that should spur purchases of goods and services, which will boost employment.

You don't say what your line of work was, but it is likely a healthier economy, caused by the stimulus package should make it easier for you to find a new job.

You also talk about having to pay taxes on your 401k. You don't have to pay any penalty on a 401k when you get laid off if you roll it into a qualifying plan. If you need the money to survive, that is another story, but think long and hard before you touch that money. You'll pay for it now in the form of a penalty and you'll pay for it in the future in the form of no retirement nest egg. And if your money was in the stock market, you will be pulling it out when the market is low and taking a loss on it.


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