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Obama makes pitch for stimulus plan

Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:42 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Athena Jones
FAIRFAX, Va. -- With 12 days to go before he becomes president, Obama took to the stage here today to make a pitch for quick passage of his plan to jumpstart the economy through tax cuts, infrastructure investments, and other measures.

He argued that an already bad situation could get “dramatically worse” if the government does not take bold action now.

Video: Saying "no doubt that the cost of this plan will be considerable," President-elect Barack Obama pushes for quick passage of a stimulus bill to prevent further damage to the U.S. economy.

Obama's roughly 18-minute, teleprompter-aided speech against a backdrop of six flags at George Mason University, was his first major speech since his Election Night victory. He offered the broad outlines of a plan estimated at some $775 billion -- and touched on his campaign's themes of change and unity in an effort to make the case to the American people for a package that was large enough to be effective, despite the short-term increase in the budget deficit that would result.

“It is true that we cannot depend on government alone to create jobs or long-term growth. But at this particular moment, only government can provide the short-term boost necessary to lift us from a recession this deep and severe,” he said.

Some Republicans and fiscally conservative Democrats have expressed concern that the size of the stimulus will increase the already large budget deficit significantly, but Obama believes -- and says most economists agree with him -- that the recession could linger for years and the unemployment rate could reach double digits without a big influx of federal dollars.

He has also pledged budget reform and a transparent allocation process to end wasteful spending.

The plan, which aims to save or create at least three million jobs "over the next few years," will include investments in energy, education, and health care. Obama expects the majority of jobs the plan creates to be in the private sector, while aid to states will help save the public sector jobs like those of teachers, police officers, and firefighters.

He also stressed the importance of repairing the financial system, updating the regulatory framework governing it, and putting "significant restrictions" on firms that get federal support. He spoke of the need to help families facing foreclosure -- something he has done frequently in recent months, but did not offer specifics on such a plan.
 
In a continuation of the unity theme that marked his campaign, Obama spoke of the need for Republicans, Democrats ,and independents to put aside partisanship and work together. And he gave a nod to John F. Kennedy's famous "Ask not what your country can do for you" line in calling on all Americans not to ask “What’s good for me?” but “What’s good for the country my children will inherit?”
 
As he did in his Grant Park victory speech, Obama continued to warn of a long road to recovery, while expressing confidence that the economy would grow again. "The very fact that this crisis is largely of our own making means that it is not beyond our ability to solve, he said. "Our problems are rooted in past mistakes, not our capacity for future greatness."
 
He urged Congress to move as quickly as possible on the plan. "For every day we wait or point fingers or drag our feet, more Americans will lose their jobs. More families will lose their savings.  More dreams will be deferred and denied," he said, a reference to a Langston Hughes poem. "And our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said today Congress would have the stimulus package to the president by February 16, the scheduled beginning of the congressional President's Day recess.

Nearly two dozen elected officials were in attendance for the speech, including Delaware Gov. Ruth Ann Minner, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle, and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine -- Obama's pick to head the Democratic National Committee.

Also present were 14 mayors from cities across the country. among them New York's Michael Bloomberg, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, and Washington, DC's Adrian Fenty.

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let's do it.
i really don't think his era of irresponsibility coments were just for republicans. the media wants to start a fight. if the congress doesn't help get the country going along with the president-elect because of believing the dangerous spin the media is trying to hype then will the msm take responsiblity for creating a problem that didn't have to be? i doubt it. sometimes you guys can really do ugly things to our great country with words to sell papers , magazines and increase ratings. i thought you guys were americans to.
Ok - let's get this ball rolling and if anyone in congress doesn’t understand the enormous importance of this stimulus package and tries to block it or fill it with pork.

We the people will make sure you are fired or impeached.

The political games are over and our country needs it representatives to work for the country's interests not lobbyists or corporations.

Furthermore, let us not forget the stimulus package will not mean "crap" if we allow the energy cost to creep back up.

Chris Matthew's made a hell of a point and I agree with him 100% - it's the gas prices stupid.  

We can not allow the gas prices to rise because of the greed of oil companies or foreign entities.

The high gas prices contributed and caused all the other aspects and assets of our economy to crumble.

No one can pay, mortgages, car loans, credit cards, shop at department stores, take vacations, etc - if 90% of their income is going towards paying for gas, and energy.

We must regulate and put a cap on gas prices - I would say no more than $1.50 a gallon and less is even better.

GAS PRICES, GAS PRICES, GAS PRICES, remember this a year from now.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Ok - let's get this ball rolling and if anyone in congress doesn’t understand the enormous importance of this stimulus package and tries to block it or fill it with pork.

We the people will make sure you are fired or impeached.

The political games are over and our country needs it representatives to work for the country's interests not lobbyists or corporations.

Furthermore, let us not forget the stimulus package will not mean "crap" if we allow the energy cost to creep back up.

Chris Matthew's made a hell of a point and I agree with him 100% - it's the gas prices stupid.  

We can not allow the gas prices to rise because of the greed of oil companies or foreign entities.

The high gas prices contributed and caused all the other aspects and assets of our economy to crumble.

No one can pay, mortgages, car loans, credit cards, shop at department stores, take vacations, etc - if 90% of their income is going towards paying for gas, and energy.

We must regulate and put a cap on gas prices - I would say no more than $1.50 a gallon and less is even better.

GAS PRICES, GAS PRICES, GAS PRICES, remember this a year from now.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Although, the question is how good will Obama be at implementing them?  
 President Elect Obama is putting forth his agenda for our economy which impacts domestic recession; that Bush and McCain denied. This is  one issue we Americans voted for.  Now, however, we are in something more serious than a recession. When one thinks of the effects both globally and domestically. That America’s largest financial and manufacturing corporations needed massive injections of government money, that foreclosures threatened millions of homeowners is a frightening step. America’s political transition of change is desperately needed. The old palace guards must work with the Obama adminstration to prepare for transition aand change. This interval of time between then and now  for those on the hill guarding the palace needs to end. They must  descend into the real world for the betterment of this economic situation both domestically and globally. Definitely a fresh approach is needed NOW.

It just might not hurt the economy for us to have bridges that don't fall down and water treatment plants that keep waste from being sent downstream. There's a lot of real public benefit that was put on hold in favor of tax cuts for the top brackets. This is hardly "make-work," nor are construction wages likely to get stashed away for the grandkids' trust funds.
How sad that it's come down to this. GOP HAS PROVEN THAT THEY ARE LOUSY ECONOMISTS. Their supply-side "voodoo" trickle down is a complete lie. Fiscal conservatism was the scam they fed us and the ignorant masses took it in hook line and sinker. They sucessfully painted democrats as tax and spend liberals and now we all are paying the price. Wait till China demands that we pay up or else they'll pull the proverbial rug out from under us. Obama has his hand full and we have no other choice but to support him. PERIOD!
Is there a reason why you characters always add "teleprompter assisted" when writing about an Obama speech? You expect the guy to memorize an 18 minute speech?

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL: '...If France and other countrys are serious about initiaitng and enforcing peace plans then they also should be equally willing to contribute an equal share of men, arms and money to maintain the peace plans...'

Actually, C A, if you remember the last Israeli invasion of LEbanon, the French contributed peace keepers

Tehy were bombed by the Israeli forces
It WAS DEILBERATE
The Israelis had been making 'practice bombing runs' against UN peace keeping positions
They were done as a provocation

Later, during that invasion, the Israelis used American made 'cluster bombs' against civilian areas

But, only for 'self defense'
Doesn't matter what he proposes- the 'conservative media' will pronounce it a failure before it begins.
"He argued that an already bad situation could get “dramatically worse” if the government does not take bold action now."


Remember when we heard the same thing about Iraq? This time I believe it, though. GWB should invade Wall Street and search for weapons of financial destruction - like the SEC droppping debt ratio requirements in 2004.
He IS IMPRESSIVE isn't he ?

He seems to be doing everything right

I worry that he'll cater to Republicans and 'conservative' Democrats a little too much

You gotta give this guy the benefit of the doubt
Obama's speech this morning sounded good. He DID say things would get worse before they get better. That could mean exactly that or be an excuse if he fails on all fronts. At least he's covered himself.

I'm not an Obama supporter but I'll give him a fair shake. Hopefully, he'll give the U.S. taxpayers the same.
From WashingtonMonthly.com:

'Sen. Kit Bond, the senior Republican from Missouri who sits on powerful Senate committees, announced Thursday that he will not run for reelection in 2010, giving Democrats a shot to pick up a seat in a state that has emerged as a major battleground. [...]

Missouri has emerged as a battleground state, after Claire McCaskill (D) defeated incumbent Republican Sen. Jim Talent in 2006 and Barack Obama lost the state by less than 5,000 votes to John McCain in the 2008 elections. And Missouri voters just elected Jay Nixon, a Democrat, as their next governor, signaling that Bond could face a tough challenge if he ran for a fifth term.



Perhaps most notably, Bond is the third incumbent to announce their retirement in advance of the 2010 cycle, following Mel Martinez (Florida) and Sam Brownback (Kansas), while Kay Bailey Hutchison (Texas) is planning a gubernatorial campaign that create a fourth Republican open-seat contest. At least three of these four were likely shoo-ins for re-election.

What's more, with four more Republican incumbents likely to face major challenges next year -- Burr in North Carolina, Gregg in New Hampshire, Specter in Pennsylvania, and Voinovich in Ohio -- Bond's announcement makes the 2010 cycle that much more difficult for the GOP.

As for Missouri, Secretary of State Robin Carnahan and state Attorney General Chris Koster are two major Democratic candidates to keep an eye on, while among Republicans, Rep. Roy Blunt is reportedly eyeing the race, as is former Sen. Jim Talent, who lost his Senate seat in 2006 to Claire McCaskill...'

Things are looking up tor 2010
... and bad for Republicans

And Missouri, a long time red state is looking pretty purple (i.e. a real toss up state)
Let's hope
That way Democrats will HAVE to nominate good candidates in order to win

Big question is whether republican,conservative ideology will stand in the way of progress for middle-class Americans.  Obama is reaching across the isle by pushing tax cuts, now can the republicans do what is right for the country?
Pelosi will have legislation by February 16th. We will see who is on board.
Yes, I am also concerned about the ballooning budget defecit, which I didn't vote for the spend and borrow candidate, McCain/Bush!

Yes, we need not put defecit reduction to the side as a priority, temporarily, however.  Put another way, once the good times come back, the federal gov't should not, Republican controlled or Democrat Controlled, give all the extra money back to the rich folk in the form of tax breaks for the wealthy - use the extra money to pay down the national debt for pete's sake!
I'm ready to get on board with this plan too.

On another note, it's so refreshing to have a President who can speak in structured sentences.
Question Mr.Murray,does Chris Mattews,use a telleprompter,Keith,Rachael,Nora,Morning Joe and the blowhards,How about,Brian W.Most people that give speeches use prompters,you make it sound like he can't live without it.Who really cares if the repuks think it's to much,and experts mean nothing to the right-wingnuts.Bush has left a trillion dollar bill on Obamas desk,and his sheep on the hill have been trying to blame Clinton for Lil'GB 8 year train wreck.And we get the pleasure of paying this guy a pension.At least Obama hasn't sugar coated it and told us to go shopping.
add up the cost of all the domestic infrastructure maintenance that SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE but wasn't over the last three decades and multiply it by five. that figure is the cost to the economy for not doing the things that we SHOULD do in a timely manner. that maintenance money and the jobs it would create would circulate currency throughout our economy. the benefit of building the infrastrutcure factored maintenance in as economic benefit. choosing to not do the maintenance, negating the economic benefit to the economy as a WHOLE, is a direct result of the trickle down econ ideology. it was no accident that we have let the middle class jobs disappear in this way, it was a political policy to try to Bankrupt "the beast" that is Govt.spending on social programs for the poor and a growing middle class as a federal policy goal. the elite don't want there to be a middle class at all.
Yes, the Governors. The Democratic Governors to be specific. They know to get money you have to go to where the money is, and that would be Washington DC. Because after Obama/Pelsoi/Reid get done with their first trillion dollar bill, they'll get to work on their second trillion dollar bill whose money will be given to the states. See, many if not all of the states run top to bottom by Democrats are flat broke, their taxes are high, and companies and industry are leaving to go to other states with better tax incentives. Use Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Ohio, Maryland, and Deleware and Pennsylvania as your prime examples of Democratic states that are broke (and notice what governors were with Obama today). Now these states are looking for their federal bailout. Noticably absent is California Governor Schwarzenegger, who is a Republican, but in name only. He of course is working with the very liberal California state legislator trying to figure out how make the highest state taxes in the country even higher. He too would welcome federal dollars to close his budget gap.
Too many things have been ignored for many decades - this, in addition to the expense of the War in Iraq, all adds up to the situation we are faced.  Our infrastructure is collapsing, we need jobs, we need job security and need to fix our economy.  We have lost enough in terms of homes, jobs, job security, the stock market (401k's, pension savings, IRA's, etc.) We have to do something to help this economy - the dollar amounts are mind boggling, the situation is frightening, hopefully Obama and his administration will be able to salvage it.
The Democratic Soldier - Ok - let's get this ball rolling and if anyone in congress doesn’t understand the enormous importance of this stimulus package and tries to block it or fill it with pork.


Don't you get it TDS? The entire bill is pork! That's the joke! It's the same line from the Democrats: "Investments" in energy, health care, and education. It's a Union payoff, clear and simple. And the scary part is, Obama doesn't bat an eye when talks about adding 25% to the national debt in ONE year! Used to be the benchmark for adding to the debt was measured at about 5% per year. Obama is packing all the pork in up front! The man will be off the rails of sanity within the first month of his administration!

And the Democrats just line up at the trough to feed.
MSierra, SF:

Regarding France you failed to recognize my other point which was that these Nations, including France, must be willing to give the UN Forces full authority to defend themselves and to fight if attacked, and to capture, arrest and convict any person or person's who knowingly violates the peace plan.

If what you say is true then under the scenario I proposed the UN Forces would have had the right, the power, the support and the forces to hunt down and punish those Israeli's who intentionally bombed the France forces.

Hamas has already stated that if Peace-Keeping Forces were put in place without first all their demands being met in a peace plan they would attack such forces. If this were the case such UN Forces should have the right, the support, power and authority to hunt down and either kill or capture those Hamas militants responsible for attacking these peace-keeping forces.

When the world wants peace and for killing to stop not all sides of those involved in a conflict may be able to have every one of the demands met first. The peace plan should do all it can to treat all parties equally regarding their demands but when two childen are fighting and you want it to stop, you don't first meet every single demand that both childen put forward before stepping in and giving them a good wack to the head. You stop the killing and then you try and attend to the demands of both parties. Especially for the children's sake. Screw those demands being put forth by the adults. The world needs to put a quick stop to the killing of children first (on both sides) quickly, and then see what it can do to meet the demands of the parties.
Big question is whether republican,conservative ideology will stand in the way of progress for middle-class Americans.  Obama is reaching across the isle by pushing tax cuts, now can the republicans do what is right for the country?
Pelosi will have legislation by February 16th. We will see who is on board.

Ron Indiana

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The folly of it all. Massive deficit spending linked with a tax cut. Here, take this down to a level that is more clear. You run a household, but you want some improvements, infrastructure if you will. You don't have the money, so you go out and get 20 credit cards each with a $20000 limit. You max out every card at Home Depot and Lowes. $400000. Now you got a nice house, nice things, lots of infrastructure improvements, but all these banks keep calling you wondering when your going to start paying down your cards. You can't even make the payments on the interest though.

That's were we are as a country now. All this stuff Obama wants is something we cannot afford. And rather then living within our means, Obama is going on this spending spree. It will make him popular too, for a while, until the bill comes due.
Predictably, the Frank Burns of The Right, MItch McConnelll, will surround himself with the other old white guys -- the GOP leadership that looks like an Amway Convention -- and either call the proposals DOA or shake his head self-righteously at their expense.  Mitch, you and Bonehead Boehner sat on this issue for a long time, placed requirements on the The Big Three bailout while not adding any planning expectation or oversight for TARP.  The car industry needed your help, but you gave the fatcats on your donor list the cash.  You may have been present in the senate, but you are absent leadership.

Obama deserves his shot at making changes -- any democrats that stand in his way, here it is: lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.
It just might not hurt the economy for us to have bridges that don't fall down and water treatment plants that keep waste from being sent downstream. There's a lot of real public benefit that was put on hold in favor of tax cuts for the top brackets. This is hardly "make-work," nor are construction wages likely to get stashed away for the grandkids' trust funds.

Joe Don, Topeka, KS

99.99999999% of our bridges do not fall down. Roads are in place. No one has a problem with any water plants. All the stuff Obama is proposing exists today. So what exactly is he talking about again?
GREAT MESSAGE PAUL. BUT, WATCH OUT! THE JOHN MCCAIN EARMARK EXPRESS MY COME & RUN YOU DOWN FOR THAT COMMENT (LOL). THE PROBLEM WAS EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN VERSION OF WHAT'S PORK & WHAT'S NOT. CNN REPORTED THAT SOME OF THE MAYORS THAT GAVE OBAMA THEIR SHPPING LISTS WERE LOOKING FOR MONEY TO BUILD KID'S MUSEUMS, GOLF COURSES & OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH INFRA-STRUCTURE. ONE MAN'S PORK / EARMARK, IS ANOTHER'S VALID PROJECT. IT'LL BE UP TO OBAMA'S BUDGET WATCHDOG'S TO DECIDE.
good point paul in addition to other points.
Forget the temporary ripple tax cuts will bring,invest the tax cut money into co-wage-pay on the job training like JFK did. This will create tax revenue, upgrade the skills of the work force and eleminate the need for a million foriegn skilled workers that are here now. TAKE CARE OF FAMILY FIRST
Let’s remember under Republican control of Congress and the Administration, they converted a nearly $300 billion surplus after 8 years of a Democratic leadership into a $700 Billion deficit with Republican leadership. Now Republicans are urging go slow, no need for action, no need to rush help to the un-employed, or the US economy. Honor conservative fiscal processes and measures—deregulate.  Sanctimonious hypocrites !
All of this is a good start, but don't forget about the remaining $350B of TARP money.  PUL-LEZE don't give it to Wall Street - use it to purchase the Troubled Assets, as it was intended in the first place.  Help those who are not only losing their jobs, but their homes at the same time.  Restructure those mortgages and give these folks a fighting chance.  Giving it to financial organizations is going to produce the same effect the first $350B did - NOTHING.
Let’s remember under Republican control of Congress and the Administration, they converted a nearly $300 billion surplus after 8 years of a Democratic leadership into a $700 Billion deficit with Republican leadership. Now Republicans are urging go slow, no need for action, no need to rush help to the un-employed, or the US economy. Honor conservative fiscal processes and measures—deregulate.  Sanctimonious hypocrites !
I am mildly amused by the Republicans NOW talking about fiscal responsibility. Also their attempt to blame it on the Democrats for the two years they had control of Congress. Do they really think we have short memory spans?
On a totally different note: When are they going to put Bernie Madoff in jail and make him responsible for what he has done, to individuals, to charities, to everyone he harmed. Please put me on house arrest in a 7 million dollar penthouse. I'd survive.
Hopefully They Will Be Able To Get Rid Of All The Pork In The Stimulus Plan

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Good afternoon,

I did not vote for Mr. Obama not because of who he is but because I did not think he was qualified for the job.  I felt we needed someone who was well rounded in all aspects both in the United States and foreign.

We are in a time of our life where we need someone who can speak to the public and lay it out on the line, we don't want or need double talk and promises.  Just give us the basic facts and we'll work as Americans together under one God to get it done.  

I like what I am seeing and hearing from this man, and I hope to gosh in four years I can look back and regret not voting for the man who helped it all begin to come together.  He seems so far to be a straight talker and thats what this country needs.  He won't be able to please everyone but at the end I think this man will do what he can and feel good about it and himself.  

We have wasted to many years greasing the palms of big corporations and politicians and for those of us who read the Bible even God was angry enough to go into the house of God and swipe clean tables of coins and release animals to the open air against big politicians and greedy leaders who were more interested in lining their pockets than protecting the citizens.  

I would like to see more investigation and follow up investigations and or restrictions for welfare and disability social security checks (drug addicts getting SSI).  Look around we all see so many people on welfare single with children collecting food stamps, medical, housing allowance, utilities and additional money to cover non parishable items with a non legal spouse living in the same residence earning revenue at a full time job. Let's have some more due deligence to make sure that those getting this assistance really need it.  I'm sure there are many who should be getting help that can't.  

Let's help our elderly, you see so many of them living on less than $800 a month (who can pay insurance, utilities, repairs, gas, medical, food (if any money left) and maintain on that!) the benefits awarded in the past is just not working.  These men and women are proud people who worked their hands and backs to death way before we had all this fine machinery, gadgets, central heat and air conditioning.  I'm sure it's a sad day for them to have to set by and watch how the following generations have made a mess of things they worked so hard to build so that we could have a better life, yet we are looking over them so we don't have to better theirs.  They deserve our respect and consideration to help support them and not to allow them to just maintain and die needing or wanting.

Mr. and Mrs. Obama and family I wish you all the success and respect you deserve and I look forward to regretting not voting for you in four (4) years. May God Bless you and keep you and your family safe.

Thank you!
I liked the speech, it was straight forward and to the point.  Obama did leave out how much all this will cost, but I guess thats not decided until congress debates this stimulus package.
meanwhile...idiot alert
Video: Palin Interview…Keeps Whining About Couric and Media
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The time of for change is here. We must support our new POTUS-elect from the moment of his inauguration. Get ready to mail/email/phone you Rep and Senators so we give them the message. Pass the package with bi-partisan support or else face a congressional reboot in 2010.

The GOPers will have their tax breaks but NOT for the elete this time. Almost everyone agrees we need this now!

11 days to our new beginning!
.... Most of you crackers couldn't pay for your own health insurance if not for employer or government welfare...you don't pay as much in taxes as you think you do and your religious and social ignorance deserves the back of our hands  Ralphie (Sent Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:53 PM) (from another thread)

Oh yeah?  Well, I happen to LIKE crackers.

I think I'll be a gold fish. You know ~

"The wholesome snack that smiles back ...."

After all, gold is probably the only good investment right now since the republicans wrecked the economy.

But the back of your hand?  Ralphie ... really.  

Like in ... POW to the moon?  You send me, Ralphie.  
"lets do it"  Hey ace, that phrase seems strangely familiar I just can't quite remember...oh wait a minute, I got it.  The last time I heard that phrase uttered I was using the men's room at the St. Paul-Minneapolis airport.  Some Republican politicion from Idaho who dropped an appeal of some sort today.  I politely declined and he walked toward another stall as I scurried out to catch my flight.
Considerting the last god awful 8 years, it kind of makes the Republican slogan "Country First" quite laughable, doesn't it? (Perhaps if it wasn't so serious, many people would.)When have they EVER put Country First? A better slogan would be "Rich Folks First" THAT we could believe in.
Lets put the blame where it really should be not with Bush or Obama or congress or even Clinton. The american people are the reason for the problems we now face. In the effort to save a dallor we bought the slightly cheaper imported products the hell with spending a dallor more and keeping production here in the USA. If the companies knew that the american people did not care if any american works made a living making that product then why not move overseas.
We gave away the middle class jobs in favor of saving that dallor and now look were we are. So do not blame Washington for your own greed america they are part of the problem we are the rest. When we buy products made here jobs will be created here it is really pretty simple.
To Barack Has No Sanity - OK smarty - what proof do you have this is pork and will be a pay-off for the unions.

Or would you be happier if it was another pay - off for the hedge fund managers and Wall Street, punks.

Don't tell me what's what - because people like you only care about yourself and will make an excuse to do nothing, with anything when it comes to trying to revive our country in an effort to help ordinary Americans.

SO don’t come at me - unless you have proof to backup your allegations or insinuations

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Nixon tried putting price controls on gas and other items back in the 70's and it backfired.  Price controls cause shortages and long lines at the pump.  I am old enough to remember how crazy it was.  It is basic economics 101: when prices are low, production is cut due to lack of profits.  When prices rise, production is increased and prices eventually fall.  The best strategy is to end the war in the ME.  That was the cause of the high gas prices.  
Listening to President-elect Obama, I could only think what a very intelligent person.  He has not changed in all this time, this man is genuine.  He will lead with nation back to its once greatest.  We the Amreican citizen must get behind our new President, and work to restore this nation.
Bread and Circuses:
"You run a household, but you want some improvements, infrastructure if you will. You don't have the money, so you go out and get 20 credit cards each with a $20000 limit. You max out every card at Home Depot and Lowes. $400000. Now you got a nice house, nice things, lots of infrastructure improvements, but all these banks keep calling you wondering when your going to start paying down your cards. You can't even make the payments on the interest though."


I understand your analogy but the problem is the interior or "infrastructure" of the house doesn't make money nor generate labor.  THAT is a big difference.  The only reason Obama is putting this much money up front is because it will pay off in the long run...did you forget that?  You call it a spending spree but REALLY it's an investment.

Look at how our world is changing...technology and greener, more efficient ways to communicate and travel are our fastest growing frontiers.  Why wouldn't you want to invest in those things?  Children grow up and go to college (education) and become productive people in society, which in turn brings money to our economy.  Balancing the budget won't cut it...we need to grow from the bottom up because we can't help but spend money that helps the upperclass and business sectors.

All in all we'll generate that money back along with giving back some of the money we make in the form of tax cuts.  Do YOU want a tax cut?  Do you want to keep driving on crappy roads and have slow police answer a distress call in your community?

GOD I hate when people post before thinking!!
Bread and Circuses:
"You run a household, but you want some improvements, infrastructure if you will. You don't have the money, so you go out and get 20 credit cards each with a $20000 limit. You max out every card at Home Depot and Lowes. $400000. Now you got a nice house, nice things, lots of infrastructure improvements, but all these banks keep calling you wondering when your going to start paying down your cards. You can't even make the payments on the interest though."


I understand your analogy but the problem is the interior or "infrastructure" of the house doesn't make money nor generate labor.  THAT is a big difference.  The only reason Obama is putting this much money up front is because it will pay off in the long run...did you forget that?  You call it a spending spree but REALLY it's an investment.

Look at how our world is changing...technology and greener, more efficient ways to communicate and travel are our fastest growing frontiers.  Why wouldn't you want to invest in those things?  Children grow up and go to college (education) and become productive people in society, which in turn brings money to our economy.  Balancing the budget won't cut it...we need to grow from the bottom up because we can't help but spend money that helps the upperclass and business sectors.

All in all we'll generate that money back along with giving back some of the money we make in the form of tax cuts.  Do YOU want a tax cut?  Do you want to keep driving on crappy roads and have slow police answer a distress call in your community?

GOD I hate when people post before thinking!!

Please post.


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