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Agenda: Dems' tepid reactions

Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:17 AM by Domenico Montanaro

The New York Times focuses on the tepid reaction Obama’s stimulus plan has received from some Senate Democrats. "Senate Democrats complained that major components of his plan were not bold enough and urged more focus on creating jobs and rebuilding the nation’s energy infrastructure rather than cutting taxes. Just hours earlier, Mr. Obama called for speedy passage of the stimulus measure, warning that the recession ‘could linger for years’ if Congress did not pass his plan within weeks. Further complicating the picture, Democratic senators said Thursday that they would try to attach legislation to the package that would allow bankruptcy courts to modify home loans, a move Republicans have opposed."

The Boston Globe: "The president-elect frankly acknowledged that the package has its skeptics, including those who don't want to worsen the record federal deficit, those who oppose using public works projects as a national economic salve, and taxpayers questioning the impact of the hundreds of billions already spent since the financial crisis emerged last fall."

Bloomberg News has a smart piece about the campaign tactics Obama's team is using to sell the stimulus. It reports that Obama's team is polling how to sell the plan. "David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political adviser, along with campaign media adviser Jim Margolis, are encouraging lawmakers to use the word ‘recovery’ instead of recession and ‘investment’ instead of  ‘infrastructure.’ Those recommendations came from focus-group research indicating that such framing would make the package more appealing to voters.”

“The Obama camp is trying to build support for the stimulus proposals, which have encountered resistance from lawmakers of both parties over size and cost. Republicans have employed similar tactics in past policy debates, notably when they labeled the estate tax as the ‘death’ tax in arguing for its repeal. ‘Not unlike news organizations, we poll public attitudes about where the economy is,’ Robert Gibbs, Obama’s choice for White House press secretary, said in an interview yesterday. ‘We’re not polling to see what should be in an economic-recovery plan.’”

A new Gallup poll (MOE, +/- 3%) has 53% saying they want Congress to pass a $775 billion economic stimulus as soon as Obama takes office, while 36% say they oppose this. 

Another poll: "Seventy-nine percent said they approve of Obama's package of tax cuts, jobs-building, health-care and energy proposals.  Seventy-four percent also said it was important to include a major work-training program, according to the Politico/Allstate survey."

Paul Krugman likes Obama's words about the need for stimulus rather than the plan itself. "Mr. Obama’s prescription doesn’t live up to his diagnosis. The economic plan he’s offering isn’t as strong as his language about the economic threat. In fact, it falls well short of what’s needed. Bear in mind just how big the U.S. economy is. Given sufficient demand for its output, America would produce more than $30 trillion worth of goods and services over the next two years. But with both consumer spending and business investment plunging, a huge gap is opening up between what the American economy can produce and what it’s able to sell. And the Obama plan is nowhere near big enough to fill this ‘output gap.’”

The Boston Globe's Lehigh also criticizes the plan.

The Los Angeles Times latches on to Obama's "only government can solve this problem” riff from the speech.

The Washington Post makes an interesting point: Obama's speech was very similar to speeches the past four incoming presidents made about the economy. "In tone and manner, Obama's speech was eerily reminiscent of the early declarations from the past four presidents, who took office warning of economic perils that lay just around the corner." 

As we noted yesterday, the issue of the second half of the TARP money is turning into a real headache for Obama's economic team. The Washington Post front-pages that Treasury secretary-designate Tim Geithner “has been working night and day on the eighth floor of the transition team office in downtown Washington with Lawrence H. Summers and other senior economic advisers to hash out a new approach that would expand the program's aid to municipalities, small businesses, homeowners and other consumers. With lawmakers stewing over how Bush administration officials spent the first $350 billion, Geithner has little chance of winning congressional approval for the second half without retooling the program, the sources added.” 

Other agenda items… The New York Times has a report on how business is preparing to fund a campaign to fight the labor movement on card check. "These groups are planning a multimillion-dollar campaign in the hope of killing legislation that would give unions the right to win recognition at a workplace once a majority of employees sign cards saying they want a union. Business groups fear the bill will enable unions to quickly add millions of workers and drive up labor costs."

And Obama's decision to ask for a postponement in the move to digital TV is being embraced by many TV networks and congressional Democrats. One thing Obama's team feared: the perception that less than a month after taking office, millions would lose their access to TV.

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The 36% who don't want a stimulus package passed are clueless fools who have no concept of economic reality.  Yeah another 524,000 jobs lost in December with another 150,000 revised upwards for a total loss of 2.6 million jobs last year, Heckuva a Job Georgie.  Ironic the first bozo with an MBA in Business  in the White House and he totally screws up the economy because he bought his degree instead of earning it.  Unemployment at 7.2% now compared to 4.2% when Clinton left office.

It's time to get Obama's plan passed ASAP so we can repair the damage of the clueless conservative economists who have given us nothing but VooDoo Economics the past 8 years that have wrecked not just our economy but the whole world's.  Heckuva Job Georgie!
There is one area in this stimulus plan where I agree with some skeptics. It is the tax cut portion ($500 individual / $1,000 couples) that would be realized in a slight increase in your weekly/biweekly/monthly net pay. Perhaps a $15 to $20 net increase per week. I do not see this helping the purchasing power of people. Most would use the additional money for gas or groceries, to pay a little more on their current monthly credit card balance, etc. There would be no immediate boost to the economy by way of increased consumer spending.

Either redirect and use the tax cut portion of this stimulus package to create jobs or to the rebuilding of the country's infrastructure, or provide an effective and meaningful tax cut by way of a stimuluis check to tax payers that would increase spending on big tickett items ($2,000 per individual and $4,000 for couples).
"One thing Obama's team feared: the perception that less than a month after taking office, millions would lose their access to TV."

This has got to be a joke, right? He's more concerned how people will react to not being able to watch TV versus the $1.2 trillion dollars he's are tyring to shove down our throats??!!  

Alas, the media built up the Pres-elect to be the panacea to all that is wrong in the world, yet he isn't even inaugurated and the tear down begins.

God, I love America!
Obama has no core values, that's why he's doing the polling. He's just like Clinton, which means Obama will be popular, because he'll do what the majority of the people want. But just like with Clinton, what Obama does will probably not be the right or best  thing to do.
Congress is just showing Obama who's boss in Washington, and it's not him.
Just like Clintons massive takeover attempt of health care in the '90s, Obama will go down in flames with his so called stimulus package. Getting Democrats organized is like herding cats. Look for the stimulus bill to be twice as big as Obama wants, to accomodate all of Congress's pork, or about a quarter as big as he wants because Congress will just want to throw him a bone so Obama doesn't look too bad with the deal.
"One thing Obama's team feared: the perception that less than a month after taking office, millions would lose their access to TV."

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Obama is concerned that many households will not be able to watch his nightly three hour lectures to the nation.
Obama has no core values, that's why he's doing the polling. He's just like Clinton, which means Obama will be popular, because he'll do what the majority of the people want. But just like with Clinton, what Obama does will probably not be the right or best  thing to do.  -----  Yeah baby!!!!! BUSH WAS A BETTER PRESIDENT. NO POLLING!!! WOOOO HOOOOO
Another poll: "Seventy-nine percent said they approve of Obama's package of tax cuts, jobs-building, health-care and energy proposals.

Which begs the question, just what are Obama's policies? Obama is like Clinton, always in campaign mode. He doesn't have any proposals, he just has feel good language, poll tested phrases, and focus group tailored sound bites and proclamations.
Congress needs to be careful. Especially the Dem's. Americans hopes and dreams are clearly with the PE right now.  If the American people feel that Congress is screwing around with their future they're going to remember that come election day because 2010 is not as far away as you think.
The President (elect) makes a proposal but it is Congress that decides. Let them come up with a plan that President Obama can sign and do it quickly whatever it is in its final form. Most Americans seem to be with Obama so Democrats who oppose him will not be seen favorably at home.
Yeah baby!!!!! BUSH WAS A BETTER PRESIDENT. NO POLLING!!! WOOOO HOOOOO
                         LMAO
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Hide the Kool-aid! The 1 out of 1,000 who think that.

MsRoman --  Americans hopes and dreams are clearly with the PE right now. --

Democrats/Liberals "hopes and dreams" may be with Obama. Republicans/Conservatives hopes and dreams though lie within themselves. Conservatives don't bother to give one man as much power as the Democrats do. But, for the Democrats, Obama is their religion. Need to worship something I guess.
it is called debate. it is a part of the political refining process. this is what should have happened when pres. bush was submitting legislation instead of 90% of his and gop bills being rubber stamped when there was a filibuster gop that kept threatening the nuclear option in the senate.
Which begs the question, just what are Obama's policies? Obama is like Clinton, always in campaign mode. He doesn't have any proposals, he just has feel good language, poll tested phrases, and focus group tailored sound bites and proclamations.
HT Rowe, Chicago
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The only people who can truly believe that Obama has no policies are the ones who are to lazy to read, research or do anything other then turn on Rush and Fox News. Throughout the election Obama had hundreds of pages of policy statements on his website. Change.org currently contains a large amount of additional policy information. He has also commited to posting the recovery plan on the internet for all of America to see prior to congressional voting. He has given a major speech on it, and discussed details of his proposal on a daily basis. Would you like him to come to your house and explain it to you?
Nobody seems to get it, Dem or Repub.....in order to get this pasted it has to be bipartisan. That's why the tax breaks seem a bit on the low side(i agree with this should at least 1000 and 2000) and the tax break for job creating businesses exsists. Think about it fellow Dem's, if I'm a business owner and I have need for a new employee and I do my cost-benefit analysis and find that it will cost me a 1000 dollars to have a new employee. Alright, but now I get 3000 dollars if I hire him, now I'm making 2000 that first year. So I hire this new employee. This new employee increases my productivity, meaning I can make more and offer my product for slightly less, this drives up my revenue as more people can afford my product, now in the second year, the increased revenue now covers my new employee and there is one less person on unemployment. Now mulitple that by a million businesses(i know it's a generous figure), now there are a million more people working and a million more people paying taxes....do this the next year, another million, and so on....it'll add up pretty quick, and employee a lot of people over the next 4 years. Yes, it's a bit of supply side voodoo, but it's not the pure Reagonmics of cut business taxes and business goes up, I don't' believe that. It's all about demand side and the more people that are there to demand, the better the economy will be. He can't make it an ultra liberal piece of legislature or else the Repub won't be on board, and he can't be too conservative or else it won't  be effective...he's trying to split the middle. Perfect way of policy making. I love my new president!
Rule of Thumb: Give money to the wealthy and you make them wealthier; Give money to the poor & middle-class and you stimulate the economy, benefiting everyone.  

I watched CNBC for awhile the other night, the Obama interview on his economic plans, and was taken back when the panel of experts seemed to just not get it.  They were concerned for maintaining the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy and for stimulating corporations and the economy at the top, afraid that Obama’s plans could concentrate on the middle-class, the majority.  After eight years of Bush-Cheney with their focus on the wealthy, Special Interests and a select few and seeing the failure of all of that, after having lived through all of the subterfuge used to justify and then experiencing the results we see today from the greed, dishonesty and self-indulgence that was allowed and even encouraged, I wonder how anyone can ever advocate more of the same.  Experts?  Maybe, but it is hard to understand their not seeing the reality that ours is not a ‘trickle down’ economy, that simply being a fraud, as it really is a ‘bubble up’ economy.  Corporations don’t expand, create more jobs, grow because they get Tax Cuts or bailout loans, they grow because the economy is strong and they are selling their products.  The wealthy don’t invest because they are given Tax Cuts or stimulus, they invest because they can make return on their investments in a strong economy.  Without the economy being strong the wealthy just keep their money (whether earned or given to them by the government) and the economy is strong when the people have money, security and confidence and then they spend, stimulating the economy from the bottom up.  The wealthy like to brag that if all the money was evenly redistributed, after a period of time, the same people would be wealthy again.  There is some truth to that and it actually demonstrates what I’m saying; over simplified yet it really doesn’t take a Harvard economist to see the reality.  To label it ‘conservative’ and again focus on benefit for the wealthy, Special Interests and a select few and not aggressively doing what is necessary to stimulate the total economy, would be just asking for more of the same – we really can’t afford that.
If given the correct information, the American people are usually right. That's why presidents poll. The Repugs shouldn't say a word. everything they touch turns to crap. Democrats shouldn't listen to them, just do what needs to be done. If regular people have money to spend and a job, the economy will turn around.
If the rich have money and no one else, this kind of recession will always occur.
Sure Dems may have their own reservations about it, yet Republicans in Congress, free from Bush, are now emboldened to have their own reservations. 'Cept our concerns are 180 degrees from the Dems concerns.
I have an idea for a stimulous package. Let people with IRA money be allowed to take out the money without penalty or become an income taxable event and buy a New Car or Paydown their mortgage or put up some energy effieint Items on the house. Solar heaters or E- rated appliances. Education fund for cxollege. I am sure there are many. Let your IRA savings be used to stimulate the economy.  


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