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Geithner nominaton trouble?

Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:19 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Kelly O'Donnell
The Senate Finance Committee is currently holding what's being called an "emergency Senators only meeting."

The committee is discussing nominations.

Tim Geithner, Treasury Secretary nominee, is here with Obama transition officials to discuss a legal issue involving a personal household employee. The specifics have not been disclosed. We are checking on a report that Geithner may have an issue concerning a household worker and the withholding of social security taxes.

Geithner's confirmation hearing before this committee is scheduled for Thursday Jan 15.

That kind of issue unraveled past nominations like Zoe Baird (Clinton) and in a related way Kimba Wood (Clinton). The "emergency" meeting began at 2:30.

*** UPDATE *** From NBC's Chuck Todd and Domenico Montanaro 
Sources close to the transition say Geithner did not pay some taxes when he worked for the International Monetary Fund. The error was discovered in November 2008, and the taxes have since been repaid.

With regard to the housekeeper, transition officials say Geithner verified legal status when she was hired, but that her papers expired while still employed.

Transition officials also say Geithner initiated the meeting with the committee in an effort to be forthright.

"The President-elect chose Tim Geithner to be his Treasury Secretary because he's the right person to help lead our economic recovery during these challenging times," Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said in a statement. "He's dedicated his career to our country and served with honor, intelligence and distinction. That service should not be tarnished by honest mistakes, which, upon learning of them, he quickly addressed. He made a common mistake on his taxes, and was unaware that his part-time housekeeper's work authorization expired for the last three months of her employment. We hope that the Senate will confirm him with strong bipartisan support so that he can begin the important work of the country."

*** UPDATE 2 *** Reaction from the meeting
From NBC's Kelly O'Donnell
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) says upon exiting the emergency meeting... "He's [Geithner] been very forthright in relating to us any mistakes...What we talked about has been fully disclosed to the Transition Office."

Stabenow indicates that, in her view, Democrats would be unlikely to withdraw support from Geithner. Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch also indicates he has not seen a reason that would disqualify Geithner.

*** UPDATE 3 *** From NBC's Chuck Todd and Domenico Montanaro
The transition contends Geithner paid all income taxes while working at the International Monetary Fund, but made a "common mistake" in relation to "self-employment" taxes in 2001 and 2002.

The transition team discovered the error during the vetting process. Geithner learned of the problem on Nov. 21, 2008 and repaid the back taxes with interest, transition officials said.

The amounts:
Total: $25,970
2001: $3,320 ($2,364 tax, $956 interest)
2002: $22,650 ($16,812 tax, $5,838 interest).

The transition team says there was no intention by Geithner to evade taxes.

Additionally, the IRS brought the issue of unpaid self-employment taxes to Geithner's attention in 2006 when it initiated an audit of Geithner's taxes for 2003 and 2004. As a result, Geithner had to pay more than $17,000 in taxes ($17,230 total -- $14,847 in tax; $2,383 interest).

With regard to the housekeeper, Geithner had one in 2004 and 2005; the family verified that she was employed to work in the United States at the time, per the transition. But while she was still working for them, her papers expired.

The transition says it didn't know the housekeeper's authorization had expired. Three months later, she left to have a baby and then later married a U.S. citizen. She was then granted a green card.

Per CNBC's John Harwood a Senate leadership source calls the situation "manageable." Max Baucus, the chair of the committee, called the developments "serious," while on CNBC, but added that they shouldn't derail his confirmation.

NBC's Ken Strickland reports that Baucus says Geithner made "honest mistakes" and that those mistakes should not disqualify him from being the next Secretary of the Treasury. Chuck Schumer and Debbie Stabenow, other committee Democrats, also support Geihtner and think he will utimately be confirmed.

Baucus added that the bipartisan Finance Committee leadership will release a report on Geithner matter (probably today). Baucus said Geithner made some "serious" errors, and corrected those errors, and errors do not rise to the level of disqualification.

The committee learned several weeks ago about these matters and used this time to investigate so a report could be written, Baucus said.

Schumer added that he supports Geithner and claims that some other Republicans on the committee will also. He didn't give names. The only Republican to comment after the meeting was Orin Hatch, who said he supports him.

Democratic committee members Cantwell, Wyden and Rockefeller said only "no comment" when they left the meeting. Republican member Jon Kyl was a "no comment" as well.

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What a hypocracy.  We are behaving as if the rest of the country is perfectly honest about paying every dime in tax.

Are we going to forgo the services of a competent man for that?
shall we save judgement until there are facts. right now it sounds like a rumor or possiblity. the right will play it for press coverage. a hiccup that will be taken care of with a cool drink of water named obama. hello.
OMG!  So, this guy employed a cleaning lady, paid her off the books, and now, can't be Treasury Sec.?  Um, that would mean millions of homeowners who do the same thing would not qualify. Its so common practice, please, give me a break!
Geeze, we just had a corrupt governor appoint a stooge to the Senate, a corrupt senator who made a  ton of moneyy in cattle futures laugh her way through a day of questioning, a corrupt Senate leader who made over a million dollars on a land deal in Nevada, a corrupt President Elect who bought a house for $300K below asking price, two California senators whose only job appears to be to funnel government contracts to their husbands companies, and we're worried about some one not paying a thousand dollars in FICA taxes?

The world is truely upside-down.  
I know the main media group don't want here this but fact are fact the clinton people is not a change for the american people. they started this housing mess what are they thinking of cleaning it up or just put more money in there pocket or hide what they did before Come on Obama where the change you promise?
Ohh, took down a Treasury Secretary nominee for having illegal help. That's big. That is real big.
[W]hat's being called an "emergency Senators only meeting."

Super secret stuff. Was Burris there?
I make less than $50,000 per year. I don't have domestic help. But even I know that it is required that Social Security be paid (witheld) for anyone who comes onto your property to work for an hourly wage. Are we led to believe that a potential Secretary of the Treasury doesn't know enough to follow the law? How can we trust people like this with our currency??????
How did this go over 2 months and not get noticed? Richardson and now this?
Politicos are all Criminal at some time... sooner or later...   It is a shame that the senate is going to sweep under the rug the situation of H Clinton.
Ironcally the post he is up for comes as a double-edged sword. If we were talking abt any other post, I'd say the times require that all things being equal, someone who is supremely qualified ought to just pay up fly right. However, this is a high stakes financial slot & it smells....badly that he didn't pay appropriate taxes.
Oh oh, somebody may be caught hiring an illegal alien to save having to pay decent wages and taxes. This doesn't look good for Geithner. If he has done that than he should not be confirmed and maybe should suffer other consequences too. Better to catch that stuff early than later on.
Enough is Enough - if this guy is tainted, like so
many others, he is not worthy of confirmination.
His would be a position of public trust.  Who can
the public trust anymore?
Two days from now, honest, hard working, ethical U.S. citizens are to make a required quarterly payment...voucher #4 as the final installment of 2008's estimated taxes to the U.S. Treasury.  Question: since Obama and his Secretary of the Treasury designate (read Tim Geithner) have chosen to stiff American citizens, may those citizens ignore this and all future quarterly payments?
Pretty Damn sad- put someone in charge of the Treasury Department who does not pay their taxes- GREAT EXAMPLe- "Business as usual on the hill."
God help the Republic!
Why haven't all the dem's jumped on the bandwagon to say that this is just a minor thing and should not hold up his appointment when it seems that all the appointments so far have a few blemishes on their record in some shape or form. This should be no big deal he is just going to be the head of the treasury department who has failed to provide information on his personal tax return.
First Read: Stabenow indicates that, in her view, Democrats would be unlikely to withdraw support from Geithner. Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch also indicates he has not seen a reason that would disqualify Geithner

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The Senate, just like with Burris, makes everything all nice, tidy and legal. Then we wonder why things go wrong when we elect/appoint people of low character to high office.

Also, what'd you think would happen if Joe or Jane Sixpack did the same thing? That's right, they'd being telling their story to the judge.
oh please give me a break
Another shiny object to mesmarize the Republicans, the sore-losers, and the media for the next two weeks.  Let's see how they try to use this to impeach Obama, shall we.

1 WEEK UNTIL INAUGURATION DAY!
http://jawillie.blog.com
Two days from now, honest, hard working, ethical U.S. citizens are to make a required quarterly payment...voucher #4 as the final installment of 2008's estimated taxes to the U.S. Treasury.  Question: since Obama and his Secretary of the Treasury designate (read Tim Geithner) have chosen to stiff American citizens, may those citizens ignore this and all future quarterly payments?
President-Elect Obamas resumes are doing what they were intended to do...Weed out the people with skeletons in their closets. Unfortunately that's everyone in Washington. What politicians lack is honesty when being dishonest. My father, rest his honest soul, told me a true story about a political race in his hometown when he was a boy. One canidates slogan was...."Vote for me, I'll steal less than the other guy." And he won. He won because he was honest about being dishonest. All we ask of Washington is to lie  less...steal less...squabble less...backstab less...cheat less...............
>>>>Politicizing the DOJ has to be one of the top 5 illegal, unconstitional acts of the Rove/Bush/Chaney administration.  Ron Indiana (Sent Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:44 AM) (from another thread)<<<<

Ron ~ Great comment, but can you see the sad irony in being able to identify a top 5 list of illegal or unconstitutional acts?  Unfortunately (for us), that was way too easy.

Okay.  Now, can anyone name 5 accomplishments of the Bush administration?  No?  That's even sadder.  

How in the world could this have happened with all the supposed scrutiny that the Obama 'team' has done with it's questionaires and the like.  Come on news people do your jobs.  Is this administration going to get a pass on everything.  So much for an honest press!
You'd think that question would be on the form you fill out before the PE nominates you. Unless Geithner lied or misrepresented himself on that form too. If that's what happened, then it might be best to find someone else.
Why haven't all the dem's jumped on the bandwagon to say that this is just a minor thing and should not hold up his appointment when it seems that all the appointments so far have a few blemishes on their record in some shape or form. This should be no big deal he is just going to be the head of the treasury department who has failed to provide information on his personal tax return.
What is wrong with the politicians in  
America. I'm not in the public light
and have never attempted to cheat on my
taxes.  These people just don't get it.
If these allegations are true, then get
rid of him now.
The real issue is, Can he save our economy?  Who cares about anything else?
Secretary of the Treasury nominee making an "honest mistake" on taxes?  And he wants to head the Treasury?  I don't think so!
lets give Charles Rangel a pass as well--he forgot to pay some of his taxes as well but if Joe the plummer did not pay his taxes he would be in jail?  such double standards.
Secretary of the Treasury nominee making an "honest mistake" on taxes?  And he wants to head the Treasury?  I don't think so!
We spend tens of billions a year on education and we are getting a crappy deal...spending 100's of billions more won't make a broken system better...sheesh  Ralphie (Sent Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:02 PM)

Ralphie ~ Nice try, but next time, do some research.  We may spend a lot of money on education, but everything is relative.  The problem we're seeing in public education today correlates with 40 years of conservative initiatives (such as Proposition 13) to CUT school spending in order to save tax dollars so people can buy McMansions and corporations can have tax breaks.  And how did that work out, by the way?    

If you check it out, you'll find that rich school districts still spend much more money per student than poor districts do.  If money makes no difference, then why is that?  Or are the rich just that much more stupid than everyone else?  
so much for the " we are going to change" the way government operates,  same old beltway garbage. same old nonsence; fat cats still lapping up the cream only difference  its the dems so they will not correct the problems but will over look them or make excuses  why it doesnt matter
Please, not another corrupt scandal tainted associate of Obama.

1467 more days until Obama/Biden are gone!
Republicans always go along with Dem nominees. It's Demos that whine and complain about, can we say EVERYTHING! See the blogs filled with Cry Baby Demos every day. Filled with hate,anger, racism and jealousy. A nasty lot!
I am a very proud supporter of Obama, BUT the comments that Mr. Gibb made recently regarding Ted Geithners "mistakes" on his taxes sounds alot like the past adminstrations cover up and it's-not-my-fault retoric! Please don't start this hopeful administration with that kind of bullshit! Please tell the truth. I find it very hard to believe that Ted Geithner didn't know how much taxes he owed...and he wants to be our Teasury Secretary!
IF AN INDIVIDUAL "FORGETS" TO PAYHIS TAXES FOR 4 OR 5 YEARS WHILE WORKING IN THE POSITION THEY ARE NOT FIT FOR A LEADER OF THE TREASURY.  IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN THIS IS THE SAME INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS OVERSEEING THE STOXK MARKET
Geithner was Dartmouth and Johns Hopkins educated and the 9th pres. of the Federal New York bank - its inconcievable that he did not know he did not pay his self-employment taxes.  Dig deeper - don't drink the cool aid from the Obama team.
Is this nominee problem of Geithner typical of what we can expect from this administration. No research and no homework?
COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!

How many people does this make now that Obama has tried to put into office that are crooks!?!?!?

And I guess it doesn't even bother any of you liberals that every single one of them has LAME, WORTHLESS excusses right?!?! Of course not, you just turn a blind eye and say that Obama and his team are perfect! Is anyone keping score now?


lets see......


Geithner-Treasury Sec-DOESNT PAY TAXES! are you guys serious!??!! I thought you were all laughing at us "dumb" conservative rednecks b/c we didn't like these Ivy League people and you told us that it was best to have a bunch of them in office insteaad of stupid people like Bush.....


Well riddle me this, how is it that a man gets picked for TREASURY SECRETARY and doesnt PAY TAXES?!?!?! And he just didn't realize it!?!?! Yeah, and if I was to tell the IRS that excuse I would be kicked out of my house with no where to go.

I would like to know why penalties weren't charged on top of tax and interest. If this happened to a normal citizen the penalties would have been assessed. Our income would have been garnished and we would have been threatened with jail time.

On another note... why would we want a treasury secretary that didn't pay taxes?
Per CNBC's John Harwood a Senate leadership source calls the situation "manageable."

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That's funny. That's exactly what Blagojevich said when he appointed Burris.
For crying out loud, this is not the end of the world. Surely people have done worse things in life (if true), and besides, too many examples of people in our country who have sinned, made amends, and done bigger and better things.

Time to suit the politics of nit-picking (and political demagoguery) and get with the business of solving the real and daunting challenges facing this country! That's really what the Obama election really represents.
Treasurey Sec. and he can't get his taxes done correctly?  You've got to be kidding.  Can his butt and find someone who pays attention to the details.
You just know if this was a Republican, Schumer would have stampeded to the nearest camera and in total red-faced anger bemoaned the corruption of the Republican party.

What a fraud that man is.
Politicians as usual....above the rest of us
Facts:

When Mr. Geithner received his final payments from the I.M.F. paid his state and federal income taxes but did not pay self-employment payroll taxes from 2001 to 2004.

The I.M.F., as an international organization, does not withhold U.S. payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare from its American employees" paychecks, so they are required to pay the roughly 15 percent tax on their own.

After a 2006 Internal Revenue Service audit identified the lapse for his 2003 and 2004 tax returns, Mr. Geithner paid tax and interest of $17,230 and the I.R.S. waived penalties...

But Obama vetters discovered the same lapse for 2001 and 2002 and brought it to Mr. Geithner"s attention last Nov. 21, after which he paid tax and interest of $25,970.

- nytimes
JSixpack: But your honor, it was a simple mistake!

Judge: 5 years, take him away.
By the way. Do you know the country (per capita) that spends the greatest part of its GDP on education for its students? Try Cuba.

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL

That little data point tells you more about comparing GDP percentages from different countries, ie., you shouldn't do it, then it does about the Great Education Success Story in Cuba.

Come'on C A, there's young kids reading this stuff. Don't pollute their minds with drivel like this.
Some of these comments are just so ridiculous.  It is completely understandable to mistakenly miss paying these taxes.  Geither probably had income coming from multiple sources and this is not a typical situation.  To expect that just because he is a smart finance professional means it must have been trying to cheat vs, it being an honest mistake.  I am an Accounting manager, but I am not a tax expert by any means.  And if I had the kind of complicated finances that I am sure Geither has, I would just turn over my paperwork to a professional.

Also, Obama's transition did know about this.  As far as they were concerned he rectified the mistake by paying the back taxes and penalty.  I completely agree.  I want a Treasury secretary whose complete focus is on the countries finances (not his own).
This man will be over the IRS!  What a wonderful "leader" our country will have!  If this is the "vetting" the president's "people" do, he needs a rapid change in personnel!!

This was apparently a long running problem--multiple years.  These are not new laws----many, many years of household employee tax law, etc--decades.  He can't be that stupid or uninformed, can he?


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