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GOP ads against stimulus

Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:28 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Republicans are launching an ad campaign against the stimulus.

The National Republican Congressional Committee, responsible for trying to get members of congress elected, "will target approximately 30 vulnerable Democrats for voting in favor of stimulus package" with a series of radio ads.

This comes after liberal groups have begun running ads against vulnerable Republicans in districts and states hardest hit by the economy.

The ads will begin running Friday.

"There is a difference between the salesman and the product," NRCC spokesman Ken Spain told Politico. "Early in the debate, Democrats arrogantly proclaimed that Republicans who voted against the stimulus package did so 'at their own peril,' but now it appears that in many Democrat-held districts, there could be greater risk in actually having voted for Pelosi's pork-laden package."

*** UPDATE *** The NRCC's release just went out.

“While middle-class families are hurting and looking to their leaders for help, Congressional Democrats have failed to deliver real relief,” Spain said in the statement. “Democrats had a choice to pass an alternative proposal that would have created twice as many jobs at half the cost and in less time, but they chose to pass this package of pork instead.  Many of these very same Democrats who ran on a platform of fiscal responsibility now have the obligation to explain why they’re willing to pile even more mountains of debt onto our grandchildren without regard for how middle-class families’ hard-earned tax dollars will be spent.”

The release lays out the argument this way, focusing on sexually transmitted disease prevention and other items: "Democrats said they would fight for fiscal responsibility in Washington, but went back on their promise by voting for $335 million in STD prevention, $75 million for smoking cessation and even $50 million for the National Endowment of the Arts."

The radio ads will air against the following, oer the NRCC: 
John Barrow (GA-12); Bruce Braley (IA-01); Chris Carney (PA-10); Travis Childers (MS-01); Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-03); Steve Driehaus (OH-01); Chet Edwards (TX-17); Bart Gordon (TN-06); Alan Grayson (FL-08); John Hall (NY-19); Steve Kagen (WI-08); Mary Jo Kilroy (OH-15); Larry Kissell (NC-08); Suzanne Kosmas (FL-24); Dan Maffei (NY-25); Betsy Markey (CO-04); Eric Massa (NY-29); Jerry McNerney (CA-11); Charlie Melancon (LA-03); Dennis Moore (KS-03); Glenn Nye (VA-02); John Salazar (CO-03); Mark Schauer (MI-07); Kurt Schrader (OR-05); Carol Shea-Porter (NH-01); Ike Skelton (MO-04); Zack Space (OH-18); Harry Teague (NM-02); Dina Titus (NV-03) and Tim Walz (MN-01).

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Only if you believe the party crying, "Wolf".  Does anyone anymore?
the republicans are taking this to an all time low, ads trageting the dems who voted for
getting much needed money to the state.
getting more money for bridges and raods
getting tax breaks for the folks who really need it
medicade and medicare funding so local states can relieve the back log from washington
extra unemployment benifets for all those who are out of work and may not find work for months
tax encentived for buying houses
yes you dems how dare you care about regular folks,
you should be like us republicans who will spend money on war instead of you own pepole.

yes i can't wait to see these ads, maybe you should have allen keys and micheal steele in the ads they always say stupid sh-t!!!!
Spending millions of dollars running ads AGAINST what 80 percent of Americans have said that they want.  I suppose republicans think that's how they're showing off their superior fiscal responsibility.

Priceless.  
Apparently they STILL haven't gotten the memo from the American people telling them we think are are obstructing our new President and what needs to be done for the country. The second memo should arrive around 2010 to those not listening.
So the media war has begun. Didn't we get sick of this stuff during the campaign? Can we give it a rest for awhile? The next campaign isn't that far off and the ad junkies will get their fix then.

Lies from one side to counter the lies of the other side and we are caught in the middle. No one knows what to believe any more.
Of course, we anxiously await full details of the complete plan that the GOP wish to offer as an alternative...

...we aren't holding our breath, though!
Why won't these pesky Republicans just go away.

We won and they lost. I'm telling my dad! It's not fair!
Lots of libs on here keep saying: "The repubs are secretly hoping this stimulus will fail" -- well, I think the opposite is also true: "The dems are really hopiing (no, praying would be a better word) this stimulus will succeed" -- and all for the same reasons.  If this stimulus is the same as the last one, I think the dems have a much bigger gamble -- the last one failed, and just about every expert believes this one will ultimately be no better off than the last one.  So if I were a pot (democrat), I'd have think twice about calling that kettle (republican) black...
The dems should run ads showing which republicans opposed this bill but yet have their hands out for their fair share of the money they are opposed to spending. You republicans can't have it both ways anymore.

If your rep is opposed to the spending bill then make sure your district takes none of that money or every single one of you is a lying hypocrit. We're waiting republicans. Turn the money down if you have the body parts to do it.
What the GOP doesn't understand is the more opposition they have against the Jobs Bill, the more they will lose in 2010.  How many unemployed republicans are going to vote with the republicans when they did not support the Jobs Bill?  Answer: Very few. Just shows how out of touch they are. So how can they (Republicans) be so out of touch? Pretty simple really.  The GOP leadership come from safe, conservative, republican districts and they just care about getting themselves elected. I don't think I would want to be a republican running in 2010, no matter how many ads the GOP put out there. Americans don't pay as much attention to ads as they used to.
the republicans have no plans of being a positive working group within the government. they care not about the people. they care only about ideaology and politics. in this time of dire need in our nation, the republicans are saying people be damned. we are going to be obstructionist. we are going to be political terrorist. we are going to be the political taliban. the gop wonders why they are in the minority, huh? they don't offer constructive ideas, bipartisanship or working on behalf of the people. they will pay the price of losing more seats in 2010. their arrogance and ignorance will be the cause of their failure.
This bill is not pork laden.  This stimuls bill is remarkedly clean.  And I find the Republicans voting against it for political reasons disgusting.  Where was their fiscal conservatism when the got us into this mess.  Oh that's right, they never care about how much they spend on unneccessary wars.  

Don't they get that trying to convince the Americans that actually mistakenly listen to them that stimulus will not work, hurts the ability of the stimuls to work.  Yes that's right they are knowingly trying to undermine the recovery of our economy by hurting American's confidence.

And all the people who are agreeing with Rove and saying that the economy will magically get better on its own because it always does, are complete fools.  Does Rove somehow know better than all the economists (both conservative and liberal) who say we need a stimulus.  When all those who lost their jobs unemployment runns out causing more declining consumer spending and more home foreclosures, I suppose something magical will just happen to keep more Americans from losing their jobs.  These people haven't been reading the fine print about how the banks could still collapse.  Significant wealth (some of which was artificial to begin with) has been lost.  It isn't just a little downturn that can cure itself.
YAWN; so they are trying to tell struggling American that they should continue to struggle; And how many of these fools are up for reelection; lets begin the process now.
I find it interesting how these wimps have now turned there attention to bashing a woman,Seems these weaklings are now running scared from Obama,We all kind of know how the repuks think about women, when they voted down the right of a women to get equal pay.They like women bashing.Must make them feel good.The blame game is getting old,if you don't like what's on the table come up with something new,fresh,instead of your old tired Reagan tinkle down BS.
So the "Gross Odd People," (GOP), and the "Really Not Competent" (RNC) are on the political war path. They are starting their "spewing" process, and they are only going to increase their ignorance from here. First the GOP sets up political hurdles/road blocks, and then they go on the verbal/spewing offensive. This is where "Looney" Limbaugh, and "Hopeless" Hannity come in with their "spew." They are going to cause political confusion at the legislative level, and continue to keep the executive level guessing. Time to move forward America!
Isn't part of the stimulus's purpose to increase confidence in the economy? How is it helpful for Republicans to run ads against a bill that has already passed? I guess the Republicans really do want Obama to fail, and the stimulus to fail, and the economy to fail. Wowser.
Wow...the GOP just keep digging themselves into a hole...I don't know who they are listening to on the consulting side of this, but they making astounding errors of judgement on the way they are perceived by "real America" (not the "drill baby drill" America, but the "60-70% approval rating for the President" America), "real America" is in no mood, whatsoever, to listen to this kind of hypocritical rambling from the very Party that got our Country into this economic mess.  Where were the GOP ads against the "tax-cut and spend" economic philosphies of the Bush Administration?  It was ok to "tax-cut and spend" our way through the war in Iraq, but it's not ok to "spend" our way through an economic recovery plan that is set up to help America?  Doesn't the GOP realize how ridiculous they sound?  Good lord!  And by the way, since the Republicans have now labeled themselves as the "Taliban" of the US Government, could they give us a few hints on where Bin Laden is?  Because the Bush Administration spent our way through a surplus and we still don't have Bin Laden!  Keep on digging GOP...
It always amazes me to see how republicans will pony up money no questions asked for wars, and other adventures in foreign counties, but heaven forbid we would ever improve America by building a school, sewage treatment plant,road,etc...
If ever you spent one trillion dollars, and had less to show for it than Iraq does I'll eat my hat!!
Critics of Bush's totally misguided adventure were labeled un-American,and worse,never-mind that we took our eye off Afghanistan, the very people that did the cowardly act of killing nearly 3000 innocent people!

We now have the Taliban resurgent due to the great distraction of Iraq. Afghanistan, and Pakistan will be a very long hard slog that cannot be ignored as Bush did, Pakistan does have nuclear weapons, and must not be allowed to tilt towards the Taliban, or Al-Qaeda.
Right now America finds itself in a situation where there are huge problems to be solved at home, and abroad with fewer, and fewer assets available to solve them, Obama will need great skill, and just plain luck to be able to solve a fraction of them to anyone's satisfaction.
All Americans should want our president to have success in solving these problems, we need to come together again (like after 9-11), the future of all of us is at stake. The country had a referendum in November, and the country said we were moving in the wrong direction, now a new direction has been chosen, and it will take patience to see if we can turn this thing around, how about it America, give Obama a chance to see if he can do it!!
Got enough Pork there to have a heck of a barbeque!
Is this a stimulus bill, or a Hawaiian Leau?
There is a difference between the salesman and the product," NRCC spokesman Ken Spain told Politico. "Early in the debate, Democrats arrogantly proclaimed that Republicans who voted against the stimulus package did so 'at their own peril,' but now it appears that in many Democrat-held districts, there could be greater risk in actually having voted for Pelosi's pork-laden package."
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The people that dig the ditches, teach in the schools, install broadband, crenditial doctors, pick up garbage, climb poles, scrub floors, cut grass and serve their meals can tell them a thing or two about the defination of "pork".

These same people use those funds from those lowly jobs to pay their credit card debts, mortgage their homes to send children off to schools so that they can some day have a better life than themselves.

When they finally learn that we are smarter than they think that we are, then they will stop being idiots, arrogant and racist, then they just may see their party return to power, but until then....
OK forget the stimulus for the great USA, go back to the GOP's way...start a war and then send the money to the country our weapons detroy to rebuild it.  

All the money should be spent on weapons, fraud, no-bid contracts and mercenaries.  The GOPukes had their chance, they blew it.  Give the adults a chance.
In 1856, Lincoln publicly identified himself as a Republican, and in May he attended the Republican state convention at Bloomington. The moderate antislavery resolutions of this convention were acceptable to Lincoln.

He signified his approval of the new party by giving the main address at the convention, speaking before dozens of reporters and over 1,000 people.

In time, Obama's fascination with Lincoln the man may lead him in a different direction and align him with more Americans and their views.

people are smarter now than before ,they see the event of not paying attention to the right people and voting by what other people say now you can see by the poll what they want.
I actually will be very interested in how this will be percieved by both sides of the fence.  I personally don't think that this will fly with the publics purported disgust with the strong partisonship these ads engender
If they think that voters are goingto faall for that then I hope they try it.  The GOP members of Congress voted "NO" to helping ordinary Americans.  Instead all tehy wanted were "Tax Cuts" which got us in this mess in teh first place.
These are the same Republicans who are saying that those CEOs who take TARP money should keep getting paid their salaries and bonuses. How does that make sense?

Like Rush, Republicans want this to fail so they can be back in control in 2012.

Rememeber....Republicans got us into this mess and I for one, cannot trust them.
No wonder this country is screwed up You have people like chuck schumer who say American people like pork...Wheres this guy comming from, he spends more time looking for camera shots and getting himself talk shows that he uses to keep himself in the lime lights since Hillary is gone...This guy is a jerk and he probably has a lot of pork request, so let see who has request that are in this stimulus...Gee i will send some money to i can have some research as to why democrats keep looking for there tails....Im and independent who just see the parties taking care of themselve while Americans pay for there foolishment.not only did repub get ous in this mess buy some of you democrats helped....Again Fed up and i hope that some of the blogs get to some of these folks......
Thank goodness the Republicans are digging their graves, watching them go mad is hard on the eyes, so I hope they hurry up and get it over with.
I am so disgusted with the Republicans.  I've been a Repub all my adult life (many years). Now I want out.  There only answer for helping the American people is more divisiveness and discord?  Maybe we have outlived our need for a 2 party system.
Like anyone is going to listen to the party that is responsible for destroying the country and murdering our troops while lining their pockets with blood money. The GOP needs to die out like the disease that they are.
The idea that the republicans stand for the middle class is the biggest joke yet!!!!!!
I guess they think if they say is enough times, people will believe... I prefer to believe my eyes which are sore from the wonderful deal we've gotten from the republicans during Bush.  Can't take more of thier help.
Since when did tax cuts create jobs?
Do these GOP ads explain how, if this GOP proposal was such a good idea, why they didn't create/propose it back in September or October when this decline really started to hit?

Yeah, didn't think so.
Again, I ask the GOP:

After an abject failure as the party in power, what possible alternative can you offer the tax payers?

Until then, stop whining
What the GOP doesn't understand is the more opposition they have against the Jobs Bill, the more they will lose in 2010.

Ron Indiana

As ususal, Dem's don't get it. You could not be any further from the truth of why they are opposing the spending bill. Going along with Dem's (since 2007 when Dem's took control) got them where they ended up in the 2008 election. No, fool me once but never twice.
The GOP is doing the dems a big favor running those ads. At least the dems won't need to worry about campaign ads...they are foaming at the mouth now...just a little more....and call the wagon!
They need to put out one featuring the little old lady in New York state who worked all her life, paid off her house, and now through the good graces of the city (and if it's a good day and she can actually use her walker) she's  "allowed" to work at city hall for $7 a hour to help pay for the extortion (property taxes) to support the AFL-CIO mafia.  Then show some of the slugs stealing from school districts, sleeping in their trucks, pushing papers from one side of the desk to another, Hollywood actor and screen writer mocking "average" America, and the lying "journalist" omitting information that doesn't serve the mafia.
The Publicans don't even pretend to care about the truth anymore, do they? Just say whatever runs your adversary down, and damn the consequences.
When will the neocons understand that we "get" their game.  The jig is up.  Limpbaugh and his neocons in the congress (McCain, et. al)do not care about ordinary Americans.  It is all about favors for their rich friends.  More of the same as the last 8 years.  We are ready and willing to take a new approach. And our reality-based, common sense new President admits, if he is wrong, we will have a new President in 4 years.  Either the neocons do not get the severity of the problems we face in this country or they simply do not care.  Doesn't matter, the American people are moving forward with our new President.  And, oh, by the way what "alternative" plan did they come up with?  Did the media forget to cover that story?  So, GOP sheep.  Either move along with us or get out of the way.
The Democrats should counter with this ad. When the republicans wanted to spend billions of dollars to help Iraq's they felt that Iraq's were more important than American workers who are losing there jobs.
Nice to see the democrat double-standards at work as usual.  It's Ok when they run ads but cry foul play when republicans do it.
my gov is a dem and we as a state are running in the red and she just keeps spending. my grandparents live through the depresson and came out the other side the goverments spending did not feed or cloth them the work in the fields and went hungry. seems to me that the dems think they can fix everything some things must run there course and some will go hungry PLANT a garden and stop asking the goverment to fix what we the people broke by spending money we did not have by getting loans from banks with interest rates the same as a 1920's loan shark. grow up and go without
The early 80's recession ended without a stimulus unless you call tax cuts a stimulus.  

The early 90's recession ended without a stimulus.

The early 2000's recession ended without a stimulus, unless you call tax cuts a stimulus.

There were various other earlier recessions that were later found to have already turned around at the time a stimulus went into effect.

So, the jury is definitely still out on this one.
russell fox Wells, Me:

Chuck Schumer's life blood is the idea that people are dependent on him.
Let the GOP implosion continues. I'm just waiting for the seizures, fits and foaming at the mouth to begin. All this because a bunch of grown spoiled rotten blinded by greed and delusional self-important brats can no longer dictate and enforce their perceived "Masters of the Universe" ideology over a majority of sick and tired of the BS average NOW AWAKE AND AWARE American man, woman and child?

Yes folks...the party is over and it's time to climb down off freaking Mount Olympus as if you were Gods and face up to your mere mortal responsibilities as American citizens and government servants of WE THE PEOPLE.


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