Equal Opportunity - Not an Equal Result.

So let me be sure I understand the current conservative position on our current economic crisis:

- Banks are too big to fail, and there is no need to “waste time” figuring out why they created so many predatory lending vehicles that they aggressively marketed to the public. Let’s let bygones be bygones.

- Individual citizens on the other hand, are too small to matter. So what if you lost your job, got sick, or purchased your home at the going fair market value, only to have the values plummet as the high level housing ponsy scheme came to its predictable end. You should have found a better job, taken better care of yourself, and known that that housing market was about to tank.

- It is better to let people suffer than to violate the conservative principles that led us into this mess in the first place.

- There is no need to do ANYTHING to help the economy. We have enough money saved up to ride it out, so let’s just let the markets fix themselves. Everyone who is suffering in this economy is just not as smart as us, so why should we have to do anything to help anyone other than ourselves?

It is easier to blame the victim of the crime (American citizens) than it is to blame the masterminds of the crime (the financial industry and their enablers in the government) because the criminals in this case are very rich, and therefore their rights are deemed more important.

This is why the “conventional wisdom” is that  union workers should cut their benefits to third world levels to “be competive”, but  bank presidents and staff need big bonuses to “retain talent”.

Basically, the corporate news media has created a fictional character, the person who “bought too much house” to distract the American people from all the corporate irresponsibility that has led us to the brink of financial ruin.  

They completely ignore the fact that you could not have a “liar loan” unless you had a bank to offer such a product.

Consumers who got in on the ground floor of the housing ponsy scheme, buying and selling homes at inflated prices and pocketing the profits, now look down their noses at other consumers whose only mistake was getting in too late and getting their clocks cleaned.

Once again, the American people are turned against one another needlessly while the actual culprits hide money in their offshore accounts and lay the groundwork for the next election.

I guess it’s easier to be mad at your neighbor than to believe that everything you’ve been told for the past decade was just a self serving corporate lie.

It was reported this week-end that the NRSC is meeting with KY's State Senate President about a Senate run, and that will justifiably feed Bunning's paranoia. On some level, it's hard to know why the NRSC is so desperate to throw out Bunning considering that the most recent survey had him polling STRONGER against top Democrat than the state's Republican Secretary of State ( http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/02/05/poll-watch-kentucky-ohio/ )

President Obama convenes his "Fiscal Responsibility Summit," where he will announce that he’ll cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term.

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Right after Obama started out by doubling the deficit in a month. Anyone that still believes this nit-wit Obama is drinking the super-deluxe kool-aide.

Over the weekend, GOP Sen. Jim Bunning, who’s up for re-election in 2010, predicted that Ruth Bader Ginsberg would be dead in nine months.

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I really disagree and take issue with this statement! It's going to be more like 6 months.

I find it hard to believe that governors such as Jindal will really reject as much as $98 million dollars from the stimulus package to help his state?!?!?? What good is doing NOTHING during an economic recession?
http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/02/5-things-to-watch-for-this-week.html

Waiting for a CNBC anchor rant about that LOSER Citigroup getting more of our money to finance their million dollar bathrooms all the while jacking up the interest rates on their credit cards.

I'll start holding my breath in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1

States not taking the stimulus money will be better off 3-5 years down the road. One thing you didn't hear from any governor is that they intended to cut spending in their states so they could get to a more sustainable level of state spending rather then going into debt again. My guess is that the very same states that accept the money today will be in the same debt position, and probably worse, in two years.

No country in the history of man has ever done what we are doing. (Obama says this a lot though most of the time not true, unfortunately, this is)

The crisis began when President Nixon took us off the gold standard.

We are printing enough money to give every man, woman and child in the world...the entire world, some $13,000.

What good does it do to print money if you devalue it with every dollar printed?

Much has happened from that time. Many Dem's and Rep's in charge of Legislative and Executive Branches. How have we continued down this road and despite the numbers being similar in 1991 and 2001 are we doing this to our next generations.

There are many strings attached to the money the feds are giving out. One is that states need to include part time workers in their unemployment benefits. Now how much sense does that make? So when the fed money runs out, those states that took the money will be on the hook for a greatly expanded unemployment program. States like that will just be in the red again, and probably in worse shape, in jjust a couple of years.

Time for the repugnant ones to stop whining their lies about Obama not being an American citizen.  Just goes to show how morally bankrupt they are to perpetuate this ignorant lie that only the braindead believe.

Got to love the DCCC for going after the deadbeat repugnant ones who are opposing President Barack Hussein Obama, our rightfully elected president!  Never too early to make sure the Irrelevant Elephants become Extinct Elephants in 2010.

I really hate it when MSNBC tv shows that goofball Pat Buchanan.  I always switch the channel to get more intelligent programming, heck anything is more intelligent than the ancient buffoon blowhard who spews his flithy lies.

Investigate Criminals Bush and Cheney!

…“I think the best thing they could've done, for example, was to cut taxes on things like capital gains, the lower tax brackets, to get the private sector spending again.“…I really hope that Jindal is the new face of the OLD conservative.  This constant yammering about cutting capital gains taxes is so absurd.  There aren’t really many gains left to tax.  People are buying right now; but if you are selling, you know firsthand ‘gains’ don’t exist.  Looking forward to an equally inane response speech tomorrow night.  The party of “no” has no idea what is going on outside the beltway.  PS.  Has Jindal turned away Katrina rebuilding funds, too?
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Actually, Ty Greene - Governator just achieved tremendous cuts for CA, also Sebelius in KS - budget cuts; most governors/states are required by law to have balanced budgets.
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Richard, Washington State – your analysis of 2012 is probably spot on.  What I like about you, even though you cheer for the other team, is that you are often witty, self deprecating and pragmatic.  Very refreshing to hear your perspective, even though I seldom agree with you.
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from last week:
Erica S., Oneida NY (Sent Friday, February 20, 2009 2:29 PM) The unintended entendre of me being on my high horse while criticizing Palomino was actually pretty funny.  And just out of curiosity, why aren’t you (collectively, from the other team) celebrating intelligence and knowledge?  Every day on this blog I am constantly reminded by Repubs that intelligence is optional.  I want the best and brightest running my government, businesses and finances.  I’m really sick of pretending that mediocrity is ‘good enough’.  Bush was a moron, pure and simple.  It is possible that Palin is even less intelligent than Bush and you Repubs are ecstatic with her.  It just makes absolutely no sense.  I’m tired of paying the price so the rest of you can have the government that you deserve.  I don’t mind setting the bar a little higher and rewarding the smart ones.  It may have been cool in high school to vilify the Brainiacs; but we’re not in high school anymore (well at least some of us, I wonder about Dave Anders, Jerry Corpus Christ, Palomino and a few others).
PS.  I laughed out loud when I read Kathy’s take on how we are viewed by the rest of the world.  It is obvious that she hasn’t been ‘off the reservation’ in quite awhile.  We have companies in London and clients throughout Europe and I assure you, We the Mighty have fallen – significantly.  Ignoring that fact is why we are perceived as ‘arrogant’.  They don’t hate us for our ‘freedoms’, they hate us for our arrogance.

Big Business in America seems to be the enemy, even though they are the one's providing the jobs to many.

If I was in their shoes, I would want to get out of this hostile environment as quick as possible and move to a country that would welcome the monetary plus that can be received by them being there.

CitiGroup is bankrupt.  They need money to survive, that is a rough definition of bankrupt.  Now if I needed money to survive, the bank would want something as collateral before they would give me a dime.  It is not unreasonable for the government to want 40% of the company in preferred stock.  This is the natural consequence of deregulation.  Alan Greenspan knows this and he, a conservative republican, would consider nationalizing the banks.  
Senators like Mitch McConnell are against it, but they have no clue or solution.  Do nothing and let the market self correct would cause world-wide turbulance.

The conservative governors of Mark Sytanford, Bobby Jindall, Haley Barbor et.al. know full well that they can be against the stimulus bill, but their state legislatures can vote for the money and those states will still get it.  As David Shuster would say, That is hyprocrisy and it is wrong. It is also an omission that First Read knows this to be true, but will not add that point in their commentary.  

After the election I thought I would go for a year and not look at a poll. Then I see the disconnect between pundits perception and average American's perception.  So go to Daily Kos to check out the spot tracking polls. Briefly, Obama has stayed at 68-69% for months. The majority of Americans approve of what he is doing. Congress democrats have a 57 percent approval rating, while Congress GOP has 18 percent. 17 percent of Americans look with favor at Hohn Boehner and 23% approve of McConnell.  Pelosi's approval rating is 43% and Reid ranking is 35%.

Personally I figure about 30% of Americans are conservatives...and that is not enough to win an election.

This has become perhaps the key question for the Republican Party: In which direction does it want to go? The GOP in the short term will divide on this question: Is the government more of a problem or more of a problem-solver?
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The current position held by the GOP "leadership" will lead the party right over the cliff.

Notice how all the potential 2012 candidates said EXACTLY the same thing about refusing the stimulus money for their respective states?  As more and more self-identifying Repubs fall on hard times, they may not appreciate the hard-line ideology of their elected officials.

The GOP simply refuses to learn from the debacle of the McCain campaign.  McCain had to turn his back on his past history of bipartsanship; in order to run hard-right to shore up the base.  A right-wing extremist will not win a general election.  Period.

And current technologies will preserve all primary base-appeasements, if a GOP candidate decides to tack toward the center in the general.  A catch-22 for these folks.  Too bad.

Jindal, Sunday on meet the press, said the stimulus was much more than what we spent on Vietnam; well maybe it's because the cost of living has gone up so much in the past 40 years--thanks to Bush's tax cuts for the Billionaires.  Also Nixon in the 70's, Reagan in the 80's, and George No.1 and George No. 2 in 2000.  Jindal rhymes with gingle, and thats what his brain is doing in his head. (if he has one.)

A few thoughts ~

It never ceases to amaze me the kinds of things that republicans fixate on.  (More on that below.)  What does Senator Bunning know about pancreatic cancer, anyway, and how did that work its way into casual conversation?  By the way, how long has Patrick Swayze been alive since HIS diagnosis of pancreatic cancer?  

If Jindal plans to run for anything else, he'd better get his story straight.  David Gregory pinned him right to the dart board with a question about why Jindal believes the federal government should continue to bail out Louisiana after Katrina, but not bail out anyone else who is hurting right now.  His "federal levee" answer didn't quite cut through his obvious hypocrisy.  Like the republican senator (Graham?) who said recently that he voted against the stimulus package because it was unnecessary spending and wouldn't stimulate, and then when asked if his state would accept stimulus money, he said "sure, why not if it helps my state."  It either helps, or it doesn't, Senator, and not both in the same sentence.  

Finally to Senator Shelby ~ Even I have seen President Obama's birth certificate, which was posted on the internet.  Ever heard of the internet?  You and Alan Keyes ~ now THAT'S distinguished company.

Nashville ~ Brilliant post.  Big ditto.

Here's something: Not one of us on any blog really understands the crisis this country is in. We may have ideas, but we are not economists. So instead of refusing money, instead of bashing the stimulus plan, why don't we all shut up and figure out how to help each other as well as the President. After all, if my neighbor fails, so do I. If we don't help each other, than we all fail.  Right?

Shut up and let President Obama do his job. And that goes for the media also.

We humans all have a basic disposition to embrace our side's arguments and reject or ignore those offered by an opponent. Republicans have relied on their views about the stimulus or for that matter the state of the economy on unregulated talk radio vitriol war lords like Limbaugh, Hannity and other college drop outs. The economy is in great shape, and since most GOP Congressmen and Senators come from the south, they have no divergent views on complex social, economic or political issues that affect Floridians, Californians or less disingenous voters.

The GOP is so entrenched in hate radio mode with little regard to national polling views of most Americans they take the advice from 4 of the poorest states and governors like Jindal, Barbour, and  Sanford. Funny that California's GDP of $1.8 trillion and Florida's GDP of $800 billion are 1st and 4th in the nation, while Mississippi, South Carolina and Louisiana combined is barely $400 billion, and they rank last in literacy and in health care services. They surely don't need any fiscal help, but the voters there can't fathom the idea that those "lazy" folk with Presidential last names will get unemployed bennefits and their leaders like David Duke, Limbaugh, Hannity and Al have told them to follow the GOP party line.

If the people of Louisianna are smart they'll dump Jindal in 2010 because he's just another fraud.  More self serving whining about cutting capital gains taxes that only helps the rich and greedy CEO class as they cash in millions or tens of millions in capital gains and don't pay enough tax on their ill gotten gains.  It's time to switch capital gains taxes back to normal income tax rates and stop giving the rich and greedy tax cut welfare that is bankrupting Social Security and our future.

The Impotent Elephants can't say much about stopping the bushwhacker's terrible tax cuts from lapsing.  They should have been smarter back when they passed them and made them permanent but they thought they would have generational control of DC and could easily pass them again.  As always they are just dead wrong!

I would like to see Obama make a committment to a 25 year program to pay off the Reagan, Bush, Bush National Debt.  Way past time to jack up the taxes on the rich and greedy by putting back the top tax brackets Raygunz got rid of so that the wealthiest little piggies pay their fair share of taxes.  Time to takj back what they stole from our country and time to stop stealing from Social Security so these frauds get more tax cut welfare.

Tax the Rich and Give to Social Security!

Working Hard So Liberals Don't Have To (Sent Monday, February 23, 2009 9:38 AM)

I'm sure you believe you work harder; but what an assinine comment.  FUTA and SUTA are paid on all earnings.  Depending on your historical payout within your state, the rate paid out may vary slightly.  Of course part timers should be eligible, especially when corporations exploit part timers to specifically avoid paying benefits.  This is already the practice in most states, nothing new here.  The assumptive model here is that people will be returning to work and using fewer unemployment benefits.  By the way, you are aware that almost every state has been lengthening unemployment benefits due to the long term nature of this recession?  This has been happening for at least six months.  Quit acting like you are the only one working hard.  Mostly, like the rest of your party - you are working hard at bitching about standard GOP operating procedure.

 Not a shock at all America! More politically stupid remarks, and morally bankrupt statements coming from the "Gross Odd People" (GOP). They just want to continue living in the failed economic policies of their past. They are out to destroy our President, and in turn, destroy our nation. They have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that. They have no concepts of right or wrong. They can continue to distort facts, and cause distractions. Shelby is a perfect example of this, and he made it his political intentions very clear. Time to move forward America!

Could the Repubs be any more out of touch with reality if they tried? They are on every Sunday talk show throwing their constituents under the bus at every turn by saying they will not accept Stim money. The people in their states are needing unemployment benefits, Cobra assistance, and jobs, and all they can think about is how to oppose President Obama. Gov. Crist is making a lot of sense and has gained my respect.

Brain dead Repubs like Shelby and Allen Keyes should be made to write, President Barack H. Obama, 44th President of the United States, 5000 times on a chalk board. Maybe then, they will get it in their heads that he is really their President, too. Get over it!

Morning Joke as a sitcom ???
I’ve never seen the show….

From theNation.com:


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/state_of_change/409171/morning_yo_yo

Morning Yo-Yo posted by Leslie Savan on 02/17/2009 @ 1:28pm

It's early in the morning of America's economic collapse, and Joe Scarborough is trying to get to the bottom of it all by shouting, once again and several times over, "Erin Burnett, international superstar!"

Now that's a stimulus package--woogah-woogah, hubba-hubba-hubba!

Forget O'Reilly, Hannity, or even Fox and Friends. MSNBC's Morning Joe is the most entertaining expression of how far behind the curve the Obama election has left the mainstream media, whose cable personalities multiplied like toadstools in the damp darkness of the Bush presidency. Unable to adjust to the new sunlit era or match the president's suave wonkiness, they crawl back to what's familiar.

And for Morning Joe, that means a reprise of the great American family sitcom, reincarnated this time as a political talk show.

Joe Scarborough is the clueless suburban dad, always trembling on the edge of age-inappropriate behavior, like Chevy Chase in the long-running National Lampoon's Vacation series. The comely Erin Burnett, who visits daily from next-door neighbor CNBC, is the Christie Brinkley character, tempting dad away from the cougarish but perhaps ho-hum mom, Mika Brzezinski--ho-hum because she's more intelligent, and frequently undermines him.

The supporting cast includes Mike Barnicle, as the crusty old uncle who drops in to grouse that the average guy's getting a bum deal! (true to type, this uncle has amusing blind spots--like raging against executive pay caps for bailed-out bankers without disclosing, until bloggers shamed him, that his wife is the chief marketing officer for Bank of America); and, of course, on-air son Willie Geist, an Eddie Haskell figure, who pretends to enjoy the adults' company but can't wait to sneak off with someone his own age, like Courtney Hazlett, to talk pop culture in their wired-in-youth segment, "News you can't use."

The key to most family comedies is the bumbling dad. The innovation here is that Scarborough was elected to Congress as a hard-right soldier in the Newt Gingrich revolution of 1994, and just below the surface he can be a poorly informed bully. The tension between his past and America's present, and between his rejection and acceptance of new political realities, are what make the show irresistible to both reds and blues.

You tune in because Joe is unpredictable. Is he zigging--damning the stimulus bill as "a socialist agenda," and declaring that for Obama "it's been a disastrous three weeks"? Or is he zagging, as he did the morning after Obama's impressive first press conference, when Joe groveled that perhaps "we don't know what we're talking about"? You never really know in advance, just as you don't know whether Mika is going to humiliate him with a fact or simply wink at his loudmouthed assertions.

Lately--especially since December, when Joe and co-host Mika debuted their own national talk-radio show on WABC-AM, the New York outlet for Hannity, Limbaugh, and Morning Joe forerunner Don Imus--the real tension has been with "the girls," meaning Erin and Mika, and occasionally others in the NBC family, like Andrea Mitchell (who was looking daggers at him the other day when he wouldn't let her get a word in edgewise). When will Joe lose all control and start chasing Erin around the desk to pinch her behind? When will he make Mika submit and start barking GOP talking points? (Wait, she's doing that, repeatedly insisting that nutrition programs in the stim bill are "welfare" that do nothing to save or create jobs.)

The gender tension is certainly more civil than it was in the time slot's "nappy-headed ho" era. What gave the final shove to Don Imus two years ago were the women, black and white, at NBC and MSNBC, the producers, techies, and secretaries who allied with Al Sharpton and conducted a virtual management sit-in for Imus's defenestration. To replace the I-man, MSNBC wanted jock but less shock, and Joe pushed hard for the job, escaping his solo-hosted, evening-slated (and so low-rated) Scarborough Country for a fun, party-like early morning show.

It became a surprise hit, at times outdrawing Imus. But keeping that spark of gender tension can be tricky (just ask Cybill Shepherd and Bruce Willis about their old detective show, Moonlighting, which nosedived once they went from fighting to fawning over each other). An audience needs to wonder about character intent, and as a show grows more familiar with repeated viewings, that mystery gets harder to keep alive--the temptation to revert to type is remarkably strong.

The radio show has only made this tendency worse. You can imagine Rush and Sean taunting Joe behind the trackhouse over at WABC: "You're not a real man, you're on MSNBC! You work with liberal girls and lesbos. Joe likes girls, Joe likes girls..." And Scarborough, who has the insecure performer's instinct for where the sympathies of 51 percent of any crowd lie, is very susceptible to hazing. (He's written, as the New York Observer points out, that he quit his frat at the University of Alabama because he didn't want to dodge Scotch bottles tossed from third-floor windows and have upperclassmen yell at him, "Hey, queerball, pick dat up!")

Anyway, Joe gets closer to shaking his fist and yelling "To the moon!" every day. Usually Erin has his number, because she knows that when boys can't admit they like you, they act out and call you stupid or "international superstar" over and over again. So she simply gets back at Joe by reporting on her meetings with really rich, powerful men and what they reveal to her about the market.

But last Friday, she finally looked like she'd had it with his passive-aggressive flirting game. Erin told a very inside joke, which Joe said only about "two and a half people understand," and he was right; but then he taunted her, asking, What else have you got? Nothing, she said, with an awkward hurt pause. "At times, Erin, your pacing is a little suspect," he patronized her, quickly adding, "but you are a superstar."

The worst of Joe's woman problem, however, is how he's been slowly filing down Mika's edge. At first, when she was anti-war and he was so very pro-, there was a natural tension between them. But he's made an artful retreat on Iraq, and of late she's been reduced to making distracting, kittenish faces straight at the camera while the others argue. Or she even joins her partner in railing against the hypocritical bank-bashers and perpetuating the false story that Nancy Pelosi pushed $30 million into the stim bill to protect some marsh mice in the Bay Area ("What's that about?" Mika tsk-tsked on radio Thursday). …’

So Obama says he's going to fix SS, and his Democrats in Congress tell him to take a hike. And Obama stands there and says he's going to cut the deficit? Not a chance, not without massive entitlement reform. Obama, as usual, is blowing smoke up Americans back side.

I so enjoy having a smart president like Barack Obama over Clueless George who did nothing but lie cheat and steal our country into third world poverty status.  Too bad Daddy Bush stopped the SEC investigation into how his wicked son stole from his own corporation and bankrupted it.  Too bad so many idiots didn't pay attention to this before voting for this flim flam man.

It's really funny watching the Impotent Elephants whine about everything yet they have no power to stop the progress Obama will give our country.  They sound so immature and ignorant, but then they always have but too many fools don't pay attention to the facts and kept voting for these liars and thieves.  So funny David Frum took them to task for their immature behavior, I just love watching the infighting amongst the inbred losers.  Whine Crybabies Whine!

Investigate Crminals Bush and Cheney!

Here's something: Not one of us on any blog really understands the crisis this country is in. We may have ideas, but we are not economists. So instead of refusing money, instead of bashing the stimulus plan, why don't we all shut up and figure out how to help each other as well as the President. After all, if my neighbor fails, so do I. If we don't help each other, than we all fail.  Right?

Shut up and let President Obama do his job. And that goes for the media also.
Chandler W.



Don't need to be a civil engineer to see that a brige is failing. Don't need to be dentist to know that an achy tooth needs to be fixed. Don't need to be a doctor to know Chandler that the mole on your neck needs to be looked at. And you don't need to be an economist to know that spending a trillion dollars you don't have is not going to be good for anyone.

Lets not forget who was in charge when the all you can table was being set.LIL GWB,Slick Dick,Priceless Paulsen,Bargain Basement Ben,and the rest of the our gang of crooks,the guys that held up the country,no masks, no guns, no get away car.They stood there and lied about where the money was to go in the first place,paid there gang off,paid the guys that who got us here,bonus's to the tune of 18 billion.What we see in the take the money and run bunch is that One gets where the country is ready to go,and one is stuck in Reagan's BS.I guess some will never get it,and will not see the inside of 1600 Pennsylvania ave, again.Leave it to a another  good ol 'boy in Shelby to show how desperate they are in GOP land, going to the is he even an American crap.The nothing new party,still trying to get a grip.

The WORST Governors in the US ?

Mark Sanford:  'Who me ??'

From a Time Magazine article in 2005

'...From Time magazine 2005:
‘...Business leaders are losing patience with Sanford�s vetoes of budget items like trade centers and tourism marketing. Even G.O.P. bosses charge that he is worse at economic development than at grandstanding, as when he visited the legislature last year carrying piglets to protest what he considers pork-barrel spending, TIME reports...’

Mark Sanford hasn't changed at bit in thepast 4 years
G\He's STILL a LOUSY Governor
He STILL is more interested in GRANDSTANDING than governing

[[By the way, how long has Patrick Swayze been alive ]]

Patrick Swayze died with his appearence in Dirty Dancing.

I got this from a Democratic friend. She was shocked after seeing it and I was shocked recieving it from her as she is very anti-republican conservative.

Watch it, it's very interesting and scary for all of us if true. Doesn't matter if you are repub or demo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNS8IY_Td14

TOXIC, in-over their head GOP'ers like Jindal, Bunning and Shelby SAT by with their fingers planted elsewhere for EIGHT YEARS and DID NOTHING about the MISMANAGMENT of THEIR HERO Republican President and NOW they are one of the MAIN HEADS of the Rush Limbaugh PARTY of NO!

To Nashville_Fan:  We all bought too much house because the housing market was a bubble.  No amount of government money (borrowed or otherwise) is going to change this.  If my neighbor's house goes into foreclosure or not the value of my house is going drop from the estimated value from two years ago because that market no longer exists, and it's not coming back (I would estimate for decades).  The value of my house is only worth what someone else will pay for it.  If the government artificially inflates this price by supporting people who can't pay their current mortgage it does not add value to my house as no one will pay the artificial price.

I know a friend who bought a lot of house on an interest only mortgage.  I suited him because he is a salesman and his commission is not paid regularly.  He paid off capital when he was paid commission.  It worked for him but now the market has turned the deal is not as good.  However, he accepts his responsibilities and is trying to work things through.  

You seem to regard your fellow citizens as sheep who are easily duped.  It's a rather arrogant position to assume that everyone is a helpless and gullible victim.

YOu know if you guys were worth your salt, you'd go after Jim Bunning for his insensitive and inappropriate comments made this past weekend regarding Justice Ginsberg.

There are some things just not said in a public forum by public officials.
These ignorant and stupid people elected by ignorant and stupid people in backwater states such as Kentucky and Alabama need to be put out to pasture.
Another example of that kind of voter thinking is in 'Bobby' Jindal and his cockeyed ideas.  Some of these southern states are determined to remain in abysmal idealogical ignorance. Isn't there anyone who is a little more moderate available to run for office who may be able to bring them into the 21st century.

I am so proud to have Charlie Crist as my governor even though I didn't vote for him.  He is all about the people of Florida and how best to serve them without the wildeyed partisan fervor in some other states. He will have my vote the next time he runs.

>>>And then there was Sen. Richard Shelby doubting Obama’s citizenship. “Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said. “You have to be born in America to be president.”
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Isn't it time to swap that song out of the GOP jukebox already?  Seriously, is this all they have left now, repeating constantly debunked talking points that have no point?  Between this clown and Alan Keyes, I seriously believe at this point the GOP is simply talking to hear themselves talk.

New Blog Entry Today!
http://jawillie.blog.com

To: Nashville Fan:  BRAVO!!!  Brilliant post!

Nashville_Fan,  You hit the Nail right on the Head.

I don't know what I find more interesting....The fact that a US Senator, a man one might expect to be educated and well informed, would continue with the "Obama may not be a citizen" line of BS or that so many Republicans seem so eager to buy into that line of crap.

On the other hand, it does provide a good learning opportunity for many.  Obama's is not the first Democratic well Republicans have tried to poison and it will not be the last.  I hope those Democrats who are new to the party and the process take heed and remember.    

Bunning's remarks on Justice Ginsberg were tasteless.  I vote against the man solely based on this.

Shelby remarks on Obama's birthplace are so stupid given the current context and state of the economy should make him iunelectable.

To Alan, NJ:

First, I never used the words "helpless, gulllible, or victim". Once again, you want to shift the conversation from the actual culprits to my "fellow citizens".

Riddle me this Alan: Why did the banks finance all these riduculous loans? Can you give me one good reason?

Second, President Obama's plan does not "artificially inflate prices by supporting people who can't pay their current mortgage" .

If you would take time to acutally READ the plan, you would see that it does just the opposite.

One more thing Alan - what is your plan to save the economy? It is easy to attack the President's plan, seeing as no one else from the private sector or Republican party seems to have one.

From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Time to go on a diet: After spending its first month in office convincing the American public to feast on an all-you-can-eat stimulus plan, the Obama administration is now turning its sights to the diet and exercise that lies ahead.

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GWB never included the Iraq war funding in his fiscal budget. he was fond of "emergency" funding request.

Bush came into office with a $56 trillion surplus. By 10/18/07 he managed to have accumulated defict of $64 trillion. The democrats took over congress in January of "0/8". Congressional democrats attempted an end run around Republicans

efforts to dump an array of spending bills on them when they took over in January of 0/8.

The "GOP" (grand old party) ran "Congress", adjourned without completing 11 of 13 appropriations bills.

Incoming "Democrats" were left with "fiscal mayhem" and refused to deal with it. In the budget proposal, "that was due in February of 0/8 were a lot of "earmarks".

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi had to sign off on Bush's $100 billion "emergency request" for tax payer dollars "for troops" (or so he claimed) because they were faced with a "fiscal mess", it seems that he got a lot of these from the GOP congress when they were in power. "Not in the regular budget people", no paper trail.


Now the GOP want to cast this (world crisis) crapper in the sea of amnesia, by playing us stupid. The GOP want to flip the script to be the "party of NO", when indeed they were the party of "YES" to a man that the majority of the world has absolutely no respect for, because he not only disrespected us, but disrespected our hard earned dollars. But again, how can you respect something you've never had to work to earn? He had no conception of stewardship, because he wasn't trained as a youth to have any.

Where and what were trillions of dollars spent on? We sit here and complain about $786 "billion dollars" to fix irresponsible spending, from the Bush administration we forget that this amount of money is nothing compared to what has been thrown around like drunken saliors on an eight year shore leave, "with nothing to show for it except the crisis we facing now".

Republican congress is communist!!! Bottom - line.  I believe their agenda is to destroy this country.

Really, no real American can be an obstructionist or totally absent minded to the need of some sort of program, law that will help U.S. survive this awful financial crisis that we now have because of the last 8 years of a Republican run administration.

We as Americans - really need to look ourselves in the mirror and ask - Who in our government is really talking and acting in the best interest of America.

Forget the political affiliations - our country's well being is at stake.

ONLY, people that wish the down fall of this great country - would talk against people that are doing all they can to save this great country.  BOTTOM LINE.

The Republicans - caused this mess - mainly because of greed (I hope) Also I hope it was not some sort of covert attempt by a foreign country to ruin AMERICA.

SO, if that is the case and they have somewhat succeeded – now many have become wealthy because of it.

Why would they continues, their idiotic rants - contrary to all President Obama is doing to save our country.

We as Americans - need to stop worrying about how the Republicans talk about not agreeing with any good common sense policy - we need to understand why they talk negative about any good common sense policy.

Then - without giving them the "benefit of the doubt”, we must then understand that their point of view is "NOT" in the interest of the survival of our country.  

But - something else

Really, I believe the Republicans that continues to automatically disagree with anything President Obama says or do, common sense tells U.S., these Republicans are "traitors" SPIES; double agents of something that they believe is more important than the survival of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

PERIOD - because it just doesn't make sense – other wise.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

YOu know if you guys were worth your salt, you'd go after Jim Bunning for his insensitive and inappropriate comments made this past weekend regarding Justice Ginsberg

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Just think what would have happened if Bunning portrayed Ginsberg as a monkey?

How truly pathetic AND low can the gop stoop.For Shelby to AGAIN QUESTION Obama's birth place  is beyond belief. They have the maturity level of an infant, memory of an alzeihmers patient and temperment of a bully.

>>>And then there was Sen. Richard Shelby doubting Obama’s citizenship. “Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said. “You have to be born in America to be president.”
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Isn't it time to swap that song out of the GOP jukebox already?
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Hate to break this to you jawillie, but it was a Democrat that got that lawsuit going.  In fact, it was the former head of the Montgomery Co (PA) Democratic Party.  So don't hang that on the Republicans.  

Where is the outrage over the bailout of rich fat cats at citigroup? Here's the wall street republican line...bailout for American baaaaad...bailout for scum on wall street.....gooooooood

Not a peep out of rick santelli yet....interesting

Physical reponsibility should start in Washington First they seem to be the big spenders....Let go thru this again....Nice raise for the politicians in Washington, nice in crease in office expenditures more than double from last year...In crease in spiff etc. We now have a bunch of Senators running around the world trying to be Sec of state...Just an excuse to take a trip and get out of town because the speaker decided her trip was more important than appearing before the American people and justify some of the stimulus package. Was more importan to go to europe at our expense. ..She allowed ous the opportunity to be able to read the stimulus package because of the pork.that her committe chairs added.Mr Reid our Majority leader can attest to that 8 billion for a train not even shovel ready and a lot more than the 1.3 bill originally...We have guy like chuck schumer who says the American people love pork...So let all send him some...The list goes on, we should all sell our business to washington and we will survive as long as they dont run out of money...We have the maverick and graham trying to get headlines along with some governors who really are positioning them selves for running again...I say close up washington get rid of the dead beats and give it back to the American people...My 13 dollars a week now goes to pay outrageous fees on my credit card while government bails these companies out, gas going up oil going down.Food going up change in packaging less for more...Really fed up when i realize washington needs a reality check...they have no idea about what americans are going thru....Shut Washington off maybe then the will come to the realization of what America now is.......

Quit acting like you are the only one working hard.  Mostly, like the rest of your party - you are working hard at bitching about standard GOP operating procedure.
Clara Kansas City, MO

My. Hit a nerve.

One of these days you and your ilk of liberals will need to realize that the ones always pulling the cart are getting a little tired of the ones that are riding the cart. What's even worse is the likes of you telling the ones that are working hard, paying their taxes, paying your benefits, then have you continually tell the hard workers that they are not working hard enough, not hard enough for the lazy liberals.

So try getting down here on the ground and start pulling the wagon with the rest of us, and quit complaining.

Quit acting like you are the only one working hard.  Mostly, like the rest of your party - you are working hard at bitching about standard GOP operating procedure.
Clara Kansas City, MO

My. Hit a nerve.

One of these days you and your ilk of liberals will need to realize that the ones always pulling the cart are getting a little tired of the ones that are riding the cart. What's even worse is the likes of you telling the ones that are working hard, paying their taxes, paying your benefits, then have you continually tell the hard workers that they are not working hard enough, not hard enough for the lazy liberals.

So try getting down here on the ground and start pulling the wagon with the rest of us, and quit complaining.

 I applaud Gov Jindal and wish he were my governor.  Contrast him with Ed Rendell who said on Chris' Wallace show yesterday 'I don't know how we're going to pay for it either and it's going to create long term problems but I don't care, my people need the money.'  It's rushing into this stuff without any forethought that puts us into these financial morasses.  But hey, it's not Ed Rendell's problem, it will be someone else's.  

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