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First thoughts: Tonight's address

Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:22 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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*** Tonight’s address: In what will be the latest in big speeches he has delivered, President Obama tonight will address a joint session of Congress at 9:01 pm ET. Technically, it's not a State of the Union address. But with the televised entry into the chamber, the handshakes, the standing ovations, the primetime slot, and the opposition's official response, there won't be much of a difference. (Bush and Clinton also gave addresses to Congress shortly after their inaugurations.) Aides say the president’s speech is expected to outline the rest of his domestic agenda, including health care, education, and energy, as well as his policies towards Iraq and Afghanistan. These aides also note that the speech will echo familiar themes. Will the president feel the need to calm the markets tonight? Sure, most of the address is going to be about domestic priorities that touch the economy, but those topics aren't just about the economic bailout. That said, when Obama talks about health care, education, and energy, he'll do so under the economic umbrella. By the way, national service is also something that will be mentioned in the speech tonight and could be fast-tracked to get Ted Kennedy's maximum involvement.

*** Report card time: Just in time for tonight’s address, there are two new report cards -- via Washington Post/ABC and New York Times/CBS polls -- that show Obama has earned high marks in his first month as president. In both surveys, more than six in 10 approve of his job, strong majorities think he’s bringing about real change, and majorities approve of the just-passed economic stimulus. As for Republicans, it appears that their unified opposition to the president isn’t paying dividends just yet. According to both polls, about three-quarters believe Obama has been trying to work with Republicans, while just 3 in 10 Americans think the GOP is doing the same with the president. Moreover, the WashPo/ABC poll shows that while 50% approve of congressional Democrats, only 38% approve of their Republican counterparts, although that GOP score is up 13 points since the middle of last year. Perhaps the most worrisome number for the GOP in that poll: “Democrats maintain an edge of nearly 2 to 1 over Republicans as the party that Americans prefer to confront ‘the big issues’ over the next few years.” But remember one thing: Republicans need to worry about keeping their remaining customer base happy. And while that isn't playing well right now, do they have another choice? That's the conundrum for the GOP right now.

*** The power of the bully pulpit: One example why Obama is winning the charm war -- and why Republicans are not -- was yesterday’s televised Q&A with congressional Democrats, Republicans, and policy experts at the conclusion of his “Fiscal Responsibility Summit.” Obama taking questions from these folks resembled a formal White House press conference, or better yet the British prime minister’s question hour with Parliament. Writing about yesterday’s Q&A, the Washington Post’s Stephen Stromberg made this point: the “more Obama makes it seem like he is reaching out, the higher the price the Republicans will have to pay in order to oppose him.” The Q&A was a great example of the power of the bully pulpit, and why Obama is winning the bipartisanship argument without necessarily being bipartisan (outside of soliciting GOP opinions without really acting on them).

*** Jindal’s rebuttal: Giving tonight's GOP response to Obama's primetime address is Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, who's already been in the spotlight the past few days -- opposing part of Obama's stimulus and appearing on Meet the Press. Perhaps it's our 24-7 focus on politics, but with all the attention Jindal has received, it's still a bit jarring to us that Jindal has served only about a year as governor and is just 37 years old. As we've noted before, giving the response isn't always a stepping-stone to future success. One past responder who's back in the news: former Washington Gov. Gary Locke, who is "likely" to be Obama's Commerce pick.

*** Three times a charm? Speaking of Locke, it appears Obama has settled on the former governor to be his third pick to lead Commerce (following the failed Bill Richardson and Judd Gregg appointments). Locke, a Chinese-American, has done a slew of trade missions to China, particularly when he was governor of Washington, which happens to be a big free-trade state. This is actually a big deal to business since he's a free-trade guy.

*** Another summit? President Obama let slip yesterday that he'll be convening yet another summit at the White House next week -- this one on health care. It was pretty clear yesterday, and will be clearer tonight, that the administration is going to make a strong push to get major health-care legislation passed in the next few months. But don’t expect a drawn-out battle. That was one of the lessons that everyone learned from the 1990s… If major health-care legislation isn't passed by the Fourth of July, can it get passed before the Nov. 2010 elections?

*** On Capitol Hill today: Per NBC’s Ken Strickland, Senate Democratic leaders say they're optimistic they'll have the 60 votes needed today to advance a bill that would give DC voting rights with a seat in the House of Representatives. (It would also give Utah an additional House seat.) While a successful vote would be a giant step forward for DC voting rights advocates, Strick says, several additional steps remain on both sides of the Capitol and likely before the courts. The vote is procedural, designed to break a filibuster on the bill. Once that hurdle is cleared, the bill then must push its way through the amendment process, which could include contentious measures on things like DC gun rights. What’s more, the House has yet to pass its version of the bill, which is slightly different from the Senate version. And even if/when both chambers pass the same bill, it’s all but guaranteed to face immediate court challenges on the constitutionality of giving the DC a voting seat in the House. That part to the process could take years to resolve.

*** Remember that Solis confirmation? Strickland also notes that while it seems apparent to Senate Democrats that Hilda Solis will eventually be confirmed as Obama’s Labor secretary, Republicans are making Majority Leader Harry Reid jump through hoops to get her there. This morning, Solis' nomination will face a procedural vote on the Senate floor that neither Eric Holder nor Timothy Geithner faced in their somewhat bumpy rides to confirmation. This vote will happen immediately following the one on DC voting rights. Strick adds that Republicans are forcing Reid to muster 60 votes to advance the nomination because of her ties to a pro-labor lobbying group, as well as her support for the contentious Employee Free Choice Act. Reid's office is optimistic that the majority leader will be able to reach an agreement with Republicans for Solis to have her final confirmation vote before week's end, possibly as early as this afternoon.
 
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Deborah, being Secretary of Labor for a Republican administration is a part-time job.  Afternoons, you go back to work busting unions!
"Pat,Boston, MA - This is our country. But it’s a big country, and it’s an old country

You don't know much about world history, do you?"
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Um, yes as a matter of fact, I know a great deal about world history. This country structurally is old. And it's very big. It's been neglected for years. And will take a great deal of money to repair it.
why Obama is winning the bipartisanship argument without necessarily being bipartisan (outside of soliciting GOP opinions without really acting on them).
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A perfectly captured thought.  He's all show when it comes to soliciting those opinions, and has no intention of ever listening to them.  And no one calls him on it.
 
Spend baby spend

And the "Right-wing" media has been slow to report that fact.
Pat from Boston--I couldn't agree with you more.  I'm still not over the feeling of relief that there is competency in the Oval Office with President Obama.  I don't agree with everything he says or does and there have been some missteps but I think he is bringing both his remarkable intellect and energy to the job and his whole team is working their hardest to repair the damage of the past 8 years.

I still don't think the Republicans' tactics will ultimately be successful--I think they are out of touch with just how bad things are in the country and how much people want action not arguing.
Steeler Fan Pittsburgh, PA (Sent Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:06 AM)
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And I agree with both of you.  I have to wonder how many of them have been affected by this, I mean *really* affected by this.  Perhaps that is why they are out of touch on this issue, because it hasn't hit them where they truly live yet.  But, hey, that is fine with me.  They can stay in the dark as long as they want.

I do love the irony that, a few years ago, in one of Ann Coulter's books, she said the country would be better off with only one party.  How funny that, if the GOP continues on their current trend, it may happen, only not the way she wanted it to!!!

Although, it does bring about an interesting question for discussion.  If the GOP got truly depeleted, and relegated to a regional party for years to come, what party do you think would replace it?  Or what do you think would happen from there?
It would seem the republicans don't like change so they fight hard to avoid it and blame the other side for not letting them participate while making no effort to offer any real ideas except tax cuts--we all know where that left us.  The GOP prefers things as they were.  Unfortunately, a new century of globalization arrived and their ideology suits the 1980's.  I thought John McCain's question seemed an odd one but I certainly enjoyed President Obama's response especially since it was Bush who ordered the helicopters and McCain probably gave a rousing OK to the plan.  It's never made sense to me that republicans are so anti-labor; why would you oppose the working class?  Although today unions are less powerful, all of us who work in large corporations including non-union ones have benefited from the fights they fought for employee rights, wages, and fairness.  To vilify unions and union workers is dumb but the GOP does it.  Maybe the GOP should ask themselves a question:  if we weren't so anti-union, would union members vote republican?  They might if the ideas are good.  It's time for republicans to stop blocking White House appointees so that the new administration can get to work.  During the Bush years, republicans said the administration has a right to have the cabinet members they want--apparently that's only if it's a republican president.  Americans voted for a new direction, it's time republicans realize what that meant.  Bobby Jindal may be a new GOP voice but being governor of one of the poorest states in the country I would think he'd accept any aid from the Feds that he could get--politics first, citizens of the state last.  Being conservative shouldn't mean being unwilling to help the people of your state in a crisis such as we have now.  Once again, republicans show they have no heart.
Just as with Bush, the media will tell us what Obama said after he finishs tonight.

We'll get the real story then.
Lynn Wheatly,
Just because the number of layoffs mount to less than 1% of the government's workers does not make it something other than a layoff.   A layoff is a layoff, no matter what the number.  And temporary fuloughs do occur in private industry.  I know of a case for that in my state.  
Obama is fond of whining about inheriting the economic problems of this country.  (Pretty rich, whining about inheriting the job he campaigned two years for and spent nearly a billion dollars to get.)  Anyone want to take bets on how many minutes into tonight's address that Obama invokes the inheritance line?
Like another person who commented, I pulled my money out of stocks over a year ago.  Maybe everyone has forgotten that the market has been flaky for nearly two years.  My thought is that the market is resetting itself back to reasonable levels.  All aspects of our economy, the banks, housing, the market have been existing in a bubble of false profits. It only makes sense that when the bubble bursts, reality comes calling.  Don't blame President Obama for the market falling, blame greed and corruption in the market.
For all you fiscal conservatives. Are we still fighting in Iraq? Who's paying the bill for that?
Oh, I forgot, it is the Chinese!
Keep shopping at WalMart, the Chinese need to pay for the "war" in Iraq. That means it is "not" costing us a dime so no need to be concerned about it. Let's just raise hell about money being spent to help our country = Republican logic (oxymoron).
>>>It's finally happened and it's about time.

Just one month after the Obama inauguration people are taking to the streets in opposition to his STIMULUS BILL.

Demonstrations in all major cities and more courtesy of the New American Tea Party. And the demonstrations will not be limited to one day. They are the beginning of an ongoing slam at our current government, simple protesting that will not stop.
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And if you can't get in on this, perhaps you can join one of ACORN's illegal seizing of foreclosed properties.  The first community agitator arrest came yesterday in Baltimore.  Coming soon to a city near you...
"the opposition's official response,"


What could that be? We hate how you're trying to dig us out of the hole we put this nation in by rubber stamping the worst president in history?
How many Repukes will stand in ovation to applaud soemthing that might be good for this country.  After the initial introductions and the President starts speaking, I'll bet you might get lucky and see a handful of the Repukes stand but the majority will not.  That will be a true telling test whether or not the Repukes want to get this country back where it once was!!!!!!
Just as with Bush, the media will tell us what Obama said after he finishs tonight.

We'll get the real story then.
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Yes, thank goodness Josh, that we have such an honest press corps to analyze things for us.  I'm going to take a wild stab here and guess that Obama will get rave reviews and Jindal will get ripped to pieces.  
So where were the tea parties when the last administration financed a trillion dollar unnecessary war completely OFF the books, while STILL running up record deficits ON the books, yet doing nothing to fix entitlements like Social Security and Medicare or provide for universal health care?  

NOW you're going to protest?  Sheesh.  

But while you're at it, pass me a cup of Jasmine tea, will you?  I need to calm down before I say something sarcastic.  
Lynn Wheatly,
Just because the number of layoffs mount to less than 1% of the government's workers does not make it something other than a layoff.   A layoff is a layoff, no matter what the number.  And temporary fuloughs do occur in private industry.  I know of a case for that in my state.  
Judy in AZ

Once again, real slowly so everyone can understand. So called government layoffs are anything but. They amount to less then 1% of the workforce that is being laid off. Private industry on the other hand has  nearly 100% of the layoffs in the country. So, what is Obama's solution? He bails out the government and leaves private industry to flounder.

If you work in government, you have almost perfect job security. It is highly unlikely that you will be let go. And Obama infused another trillion dollars into government to further guarantee that government workers will not be laid off. Once again, that is insane.
"I want my country back": with or without the Constitution that election thief Bush gutted?

I want habeus corpus back, and cometus posse re-instated. Know what either of those are?
Anyone care to explain what Bush did while the economy was tanking from November to January???
Um, yes as a matter of fact, I know a great deal about world history. This country structurally is old. And it's very big. It's been neglected for years. And will take a great deal of money to repair it.
Pat, Boston, MA


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Don't travel much, do you?
Big Business should pack up and leave America and move to more business friendly countries.

The climate here towards Big Business in now Hostile and they are not welcomed.

They should take their business out of this country and enjoy a more friendly host. We are pushing them out as hard as we can.

Ed Crane, Middlebury, IN

And Big Business will leave the country, in droves. They carry a huge burden today with all the taxes they must pay and the regulations they must follow. Now Obama is going to load them up with an entire new set of taxes and regulations. The CEOs of Big Business are calling China and India as I write this and asking "How much more work can you take on?".
Lynn Wheatly: 10,000 people = "nothing"  Thank you for that lesson in right wing accounting.



"the opposition's official response,"

What could that be? We hate how your trying to dig us out of the whole we put this nation in by rubber stamping the worst president in history?
Lee in CA

I didn't say that. You said that. Relative to private sector layoffs, government layoffs amount to less then 1% of all layoffs.

Hope you enjoy paying all your newly enacted taxes Lee. That Hope and Change working out well for you?
IT took 8 years or more for our economy to get to this point. I will take many more years to undo all the damage that was done.
How can people realistically think after President Obama being in office for 1 month, things would be back to "normal"?
It will take many years to fix our broken economy, if it can be fixed.
Tzalaran - governments are made for one reason only: to control the economy.

Really? This is news. I guess that explains why Venezuela is doing so well, what with all control of the economy they are doing. They got electricity to most of their people yet?

Well, I'm sure glad the government is employing people. With all the jobs leaving the country, government will be the only major employer left in the country. But whom then will they tax to support themselves? Also, what products will government make, you know, to support or GNP. The 'P' stands for Product you know.
I have the wonderful privilege of living north of the ongoing melodrama you call the USA!! I have never seen a more sad, pathetic bunch of misfits in my entire life (I am 50) than what I see today. One person spoke of the evils/perils of socializing. Yeah your free market unregulated economy is a shining example of  the way things should be done. Others spoke of letting things lay as they were and not helping out the economy. Good choice. Now you can really pick up some downhill momentum and if you are lucky you can have the President declare a force majeur (sp?) and have the US dollar devalued and replaced with something different. I have read many accounts that the Canadian banking system is one of the stronger models in the world right now. This is not a time to gloat, but rather a  time of reflection for the world and to set a course correction. Find a new approach. The one you are using is broken and not worth fixing. Regarding socialism, I love the fact that we have socialized health care in this country. Is our system perfect, hell no. It needs to be revamped in a big way. But it keeps everyone from losing everything in the unfortunate event of a major illness or accident.

You sit and whine and moan about your President's inability to forge ahead and wave his magic wand and correct the myriad of fundamental problems that plague not only your economy, but your mindset. Would you rather another 4 years of damn the torpedoes and full steam ahead like you just had, or perhaps, just maybe, a little caution and sober second thought might be in order. When President Obama began campaigning for the presidency a few years back, the economy was beginning to sour, but had not spoiled like it has now. This rapid decline necessitates a new approach, not one that was born on the campaign trail.

You people bashing the current administration disgust me. President Obama is being chased by a dog in heat. If he runs he gets bit, if he stands still he gets screwed!! The American people are solely the ones to blame for your crisis. Yes you can blame the previous administration, but stop and think, who put him there!!

Grow up and take your lumps. This too shall pass. Give the Man a chance and he will more than live up to your grandiose expectations.

He is a good man and a great choice for President. Maybe it is time to try and support your President instead of calling him down. That might take more courage than some of you are able or willing to muster.

Ed Crane, Middlebury, IN: '...Big Business should pack up and leave America and move to more business friendly countries....'

Who's first ?
Bank of America or Merril Lynch ?
CitiGroup ? Enron ? Halliburton ?

We've been REAL MEAN to Halliburton

How about the Lockheed ?
don't they make those over priced helicopters ?
THEY should go overseas !!!

Poor, Poor Business
Where did those Republicans touch you ?

"Don't travel much, do you?"
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As a matter of fact, yes I do travel a lot. Hope to be doing more. You know, old old european countries. Have seen many of them, many more to see.

Anyone care to explain what Bush did while the economy was tanking from November to January???

Steve Lynchburg, VA

Planning for retirement in Crawford, life after the presidency.

What is your point?

What does that have to do with the task at hand for the gentleman who was elected President of the United States?

Democrat, Barrack Obama is that person.

Again, your point?
IT took 8 years or more for our economy to get to this point.

Chuck of Philadelphia PA

Eight (8) years???????

How about the Clinton Market Crash of 1997?????

Were you even born then???????
What's striking about the Republicans posting here is that they are only concerned about "their country", the stock market, their "principles" and big business.

Absolutely no concern for actual people other than themselves.

As Jesus said, by their fruits you will know them.




Anyone care to explain what Bush did while the economy was tanking from November to January???

He dealt with an 'obstructionist' senate and congress!

Big Business should pack up and leave America and move to more business friendly countries.

The climate here towards Big Business in now Hostile and they are not welcomed.

They should take their business out of this country and enjoy a more friendly host. We are pushing them out as hard as we can.

Also, as predicted a couple years back, raising the minumum wage would add to layoffs because small business can only afford fewer employees.

Nashville_fan is right.

The Community Reinvestment Act, which also has a small business and small farm lending component, has only a minor role in all this.

Bad loans were made by bad lenders.  CRA loans were mostly made in a way that attempted to minimize risk for loans in more marginal areas and to assure that bank services were available on a more equal footing for low to moderate income areas.

These loans were by nature somewhat more risky.  During the period of time covered by CRA there were literally millions of good loans made.  I don't have statistics, but virtually all of the loans that are causing the problems now were made during the past 5 years and are more associated with the gargantuan supplies of money that had nowhere else to go apparently than to mortgage backed securities and the funky stuff we've all heard of.

CRA didn't really have that much to do with over 95% of the loans made that are causing the problems.  I wouldn't rule out that some banks abused the program to "pump up" their CRA ratings to avoid problems with activist groups.

But I don't think current problems can be laid at the feet of the Community Reinvestment Act in any more than a very minor and politically theatrical way.  Mortgage lenders were making most of their bad loans with very little help from CRA.

Terry, Disabled Vet:

You mean they're going to act like Democrats during the Bush administration?

Well, knock me over with a feather!
Hooo Boy!  The delusional ranting from the right continue.  Pray tell, Moonie, exactly where are these demonstrations taking place?  Perhaps some here want to join in.  I assume this public service announcement you're putting out is based on some type of FACT, is it not?

http://jawillie.blog.com
jawillie, Philadelphia, PA. (Sent Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:38 AM)
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Jawillie, Please join us in Dallas on the 27th.  Too bad you missed Seattle on the 16th, Denver on the 17th, Mesa AZ on the 18th, and Kansas on the 21st.  Coming up is Chicago, Dallas, Fort Worth, MO......we're just getting started.  I'll be sure to let you know if I find out when one hits Philly.
Amy B, Portland:

After Katrina, people DEMANDED the feds pour money into Louisiana for just that purpose and simultaneously blamed Republicans and Bush for EVERYTHING associated with Katrina, including the global warming that "caused" it.

That federal money was probably part of the reason Louisiana moved into the top five of Nashville_fan's list.

Give me a freakin' break, Amy.  You're better than that.

And remember smooth is as smooth does and our president was elected on primarily that trait, not what he actually said or was trying to accomplish, which was basically being elected.
Well, I'm sure glad the government is employing people. With all the jobs leaving the country, government will be the only major employer left in the country. But whom then will they tax to support themselves? Also, what products will government make, you know, to support or GNP. The 'P' stands for Product you know.

Tarzan Mike (Sent Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:26 AM)
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Product = all goods and SERVICES
we are transitioning into a service based economy, and by generating a new green economy there will be plenty of new technology that can be exported to increase the product.

but yeah, all you dittoheads believe that alternative energy is a lie even though we are using Biodiesel to fuel rockets and getting 4% less output than petro based rocket fuels.

so government stimulus will open the doors for new industries once the big oil lobby has found another country to use as a host... (i think China is calling)

i didn't say all governments control their economy well, but that is the function of government: to control who gets what, where, when, and how.  if you didn't know that, you need to brush up on remedial world history...
"That Hope and Change working out well for you? "


Well, Lynn, I'm willing to give the guy a chance instead od whining straight out of the gate.  Bush was allowed to screw up as long and as much as he wanted without a peep from the right wing. Why doesn't Obama get a chance?  How's that working out for you? Make you feel satisfied? And you most certainly DID insinuate that 10,000 people (more like 40,000 when you include family members) was "nothing."


Oh, yeah - I'm in the middle class, so I don't pretend like I can't or shouldn't pay some taxes to run this country - that's for rich people to say.
Richard, Washington State, the former dunce in chief never gave any and I do meaa any respect for anybody that disagreed with him!!!!!!!  I send you not a feather but the damn truth!!!!!!!!Did you ever, ever see that man extend a hand to the other party like President Obama has publicly????????????Do I need to remind you about the Iraqi fiasco, the Katrina fiasco, the torture fiasco, the wiretapping fiasco, the justice department fiasco, the Plame fiasco, the energy fiasco, the economic fiasco that during the end of his tenure he was AWOL on this issue?????????????This is all public information, in case you forgot the Repuke party called people like me UNPATRIOTIC as well!!!!!!!!!!, Do I need to keep going??????????The former dunce in chief's administration was ARROGANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!They did not give a damn about this country only themselves and don't give me that old line He kept us safe"  He tore down the Constitution of the United States PERIOD!!!!!!!We will see if the REPUKE Party is willing to extend a hand or just sit on their arsses and want to continue the same old path of destroying this country that I BLED FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To Richard, Washington State:

Thanks for the back up. And thanks for offering us your unique, pragmatic, but always informative perspective on the issues of the day.

You've broadened my horizons, and for that I thank you.
"You mean they're going to act like Democrats during the Bush administration?"


As long as no one ever again acts like the repubs during the Clinton administration we won't be seen as the most stupid people on Earth.
Brian Reed, West Bend, WI (Sent Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:36 AM)
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you're entire argument is that big business is the largest creator of jobs, and that is a faulty premise.

the fact is, big business has been outsourcing jobs for cheaper labor for longer than they have been creating jobs.  right now, the best and quickest fix for our economy, national security, and general overall well being is to stop the Macro view of energy supply, and refocus that into making each community self sufficient through a combination of alternative energy programs; wind in the plains and coasts, solar in the southwest, hydro plants on rivers and coasts, and biofuels plants in every neighborhood.

this would provide jobs locally to create, maintain, and replace the infrastructure and provide the energy we need to live our modern lifestyle.  it would reduce the effect of natural disasters and terrorist attacks on nuclear plants and other refineries.  it would also move us back into working with our neighbors to make our lives better, rebuilding the failing sense of community that made this nation flourish 50 years ago.

but oh yeah, according to Majah Rushie, i'm lying because alternative energy is a lie...
Nashville_fan -

What's striking about the Republicans posting here is that they are only concerned about "their country", the stock market, their "principles" and big business.

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"the stock market" - the market contains most of peoples retirement accounts. It also contains many of the pensions for unions workers. The market goes down, nearly everyone loses.

"big business" - Big business employs many people in the country. Big businesses also has many, many small businesses that are their vendors. Big business suffers, then so does all of America.

"Principles" - Conservative principles are to take care of themselves and their families, and being as much independent from government as possible. Those  "principles" also include working in their community and helping others that are not as fortunate through charity.

So, it sounds like you're against these things. Care to explain how that puts "Country First"?
As long as no one ever again acts like the repubs during the Clinton administration we won't be seen as the most stupid people on Earth.
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Yes, because why would we want welfare reform and a balanced budget?  Who has any use for those things?
Richard Shelby should be ashamed of himself for attempting to stir up hatred in the townhall meeting that he attended in Cullman, Alabama over the weekend.

A little history lesson about Cullman: Cullman, Alabama is known in these parts for being the home of KKK. They have a reputation (to this day) for continuing to hold and breed klan membership and meetings.

I appreciate the Cullman Times for standing behind their story and for making sure that it made national news. Times they are a changing indeed. As a responsible lawmaker, when the question was asked about President Obama's birth certificate (he knew that this had been proven before) his response should have been, yes he is an American citizen.

Keys is just a reed blowing in the win and is satill feeling the sting of defeat from President. He has a vendetta of his own and he attempting to settle the score any way he ca by using the "old crab in the barrel tatic". Key is a so called democrat, but then again...so was Blavo and Burris...
You simply have to give Obama credit.  As hard as the Republicans try to fault, block and sabotage whatever he offers he keeps handling their irresponsible obstructionist efforts and, while admitting fine tuning could likely still be needed, keeps addressing the issues, which the Republicans seem to think is unnecessary, and keeps trying to solve the problems he inherited.  The Republicans, current example McCain with the helicopters, seem to think they can arrogantly and stupidly say anything and their influential supporters will just massage it to manipulate public opinion.  It sure would be nice to have a Republican Party that responsibly and honestly competed in the best interests of the people instead of just being obnoxiously totally focused on playing the political games.
Tzalaran - the fact is, big business has been outsourcing jobs for cheaper labor for longer than they have been creating jobs.

And why do you think that is? Here's a hint. Offshore sites labor costs are a lot cheaper then the in the US. The US and State governments load up businesses in the US with taxes, regulations, hiring requirements. Unions specify how much their members will make and that you cannot fire them. Environmental laws make it more and more expensive for these businesses to operate. All these taxes and regulations have driven the businesses offshore.

The cause of the migration of jobs to offshore sites is caused by the government. Nothing more, nothing less.
So far, the people who didn't vote for Obama have been proven to be correct.  Since Obama has been in office, unemployment numbers keep rising and the stock market keeps falling.  Every time Obama or one of his economic advisors speak, the stock market falls further.  He has only made things worse with his policies.  It is a shame there is a certain sector of our population that is so simple-minded that they can be influenced by his strong oratory skills and are not intelligent enough to understand his disasterous policies.
"GONZO-GATE", IT JUST WILL NOT FADE AWAY. STAY TUNED.
Friend from the North

You just said a mouth full and it's is much appreciated by me.
erry Des Moines - Did you ever, ever see that man [Bush] extend a hand to the other party like President Obama has publicly.

Yeah. To Ted Kennedy. No child left behind act. Then there was that $600 billion perscription drug bill Bush worked on with the Democrats.

Need more proof?
"That Hope and Change working out well for you? "


Well, Lynn, I'm willing to give the guy a chance instead od whining straight out of the gate.  Bush was allowed to screw up as long and as much as he wanted without a peep from the right wing. Why doesn't Obama get a chance?  How's that working out for you? Make you feel satisfied? And you most certainly DID insinuate that 10,000 people (more like 40,000 when you include family members) was "nothing."


Oh, yeah - I'm in the middle class, so I don't pretend like I can't or shouldn't pay some taxes to run this country - that's for rich people to say.

You're avoiding the issue Lee. The issue is that government barely lays off it's people vs. the private sector. That's been proven to be true, both in California, and across the country, at the federal, state, and local level. It's about a 100:1 ratio that private sector jobs take the brunt of all layoffs. So what does Obama do? He rams through a government bailout bill. That is insanity.

And I'm happy for you. Happy that you enjoy being the #1 taxed state in the union. Good for you.


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