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Obama announces Iraq plan

Posted: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:24 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Athena Jones

CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. -- An American flag and a crowded Marine field house provided the backdrop Friday for President Obama's announcement of his plan to withdraw combat forces from Iraq by August 2010.

The Iraq war was the issue that helped rocket Obama, who opposed it from the start, to political stardom, and he campaigned on a promise to redeploy combat troops within 16 months of taking office.

The reduction announced today will bring US troops down from the current 142,000 to what Obama called a transitional force of 35,000 to 50,000 and will change their mission from combat to training, equipping, and advising Iraqi security forces; counter-terrorism; and protecting "ongoing civilian and military efforts within Iraq."

All U.S. troops will be out of Iraq by the end of 2011, but the initial drawdown will not happen as quickly as the president originally envisioned.

"As a candidate for president, I made clear my support for a timeline of 16 months to carry out this drawdown, while pledging to consult closely with our military commanders upon taking office to ensure that we preserve the gains we've made and protect our troops," Obama told the audience of about 2,000. "Those consultations are now complete, and I have chosen a timeline that will remove our combat brigades over the next 18 months."

He noted the progress that had been made in Iraq and praised U.S. troops, while repeating his argument that the long-term solution in Iraq must be political rather than military and that America must focus more attention on the war in Afghanistan and on regional diplomacy.

Obama -- who was accompanied by Defense Sec. Robert Gates, Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen and Jim Jones, the assistant to the president for national security affairs -- thanked former Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker and named Chris Hill as the new ambassador. He called Gens. David Petraeus and Ray Odierno "two of our finest generals" and said they would be critical in carrying forward his new Iraq strategy.

"He wanted a firm deadline for the end of this combat mission and that is Aug. 31, 2010," Gates said later in an interview. "I think that he also saw the wisdom in allowing the commanders in the field to be the best judges within that specific timeframe of the pacing of those withdrawals."

Gates said he, Mullen and both generals were comfortable with the president's decision and that the longer withdrawal time period had been chosen in order to the keep the maximum force presence through the end of the year and into early next year to provide security for the elections and to make sure there were no problems with the various factions accepting the results of the elections.

The secretary said the president could adjust the deadlines he had set out if he thought it was in the United States' national security interests, while adding, "I don't think any of us believe that's going to be necessary."

The president was not the first Obama to visit Camp Lejeune, home to 8,000 Marines. Michelle Obama spoke with several hundred veterans and military families here in October.

There are about 21,000 Marines in Iraq and just over 1,000 Marines have been killed there. Some of the Marines here at Camp Lejeune will be redeployed to Afghanistan in the coming weeks and months. 

The crowd was respectful, interrupting the president several times to applaud. The biggest cheers came when Obama promised to raise military pay and when he spoke about help for returning troops.

Tania Gomez, a lance corporal from West Covina, Calif., was among several Marines who said they were pleased the president had come here to deliver the news.

"I was very happy about the part where he said he was bringing troops back from Iraq," Gomez said. "They've been over there a long time; they need to come home to their families."

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The Gallop Poll showed today that President Obama shouldn't quit his day job but maybe David Gregory should be FIRED all together
And, the terrorists win.

I'm certain the families of the KIA and the wounded feel much better about things today.
The Iraq war is the longest in US history. It is time to wind it down and bring our people home or redeploy them to Afghanistan/Pakistan wher Al Qaeda, Bin Laden, and The Taliban are. Remember them? They are the ones who ACTUALLY did us damage. The ones going to the Afg/Pak area should be specially trained to deal with the tribes and the chieftans of the area so as to get them on our side. Unless those people are on our side they will harbor the enemy and we will be in an endless conflict just like the Russians were a decade or so ago.
while i know msnbc is "the place for politics," and gregory did allow ret. generals jacobs and mccaffrety give their military evaluation of president obama's speech, gregory gave only small attention to what they had to say wanting clearly to concentrate on the politics of his speech.

unlike the previous commander-in-chief who used our troops as a prop for his political ends and his "bring it on" and "mission accomplished."  president obama treated our courageous troops with respect and intelligence. he spoke of they have accomplished, what our expectations from iraq are; and most importantly (unlike the previous administration) his respect for their service by raising their pay, more veteran benefits, better and closer health care including severe head injuries and delayed stress syndrome, and a promise to never send them into another war without an end point and proper equipment.

for all of us grateful for the service given to this country by all these men and women, it was a wonderful, thoughtful, respectful speech.
Nice straight reporting on facts Athena without any gratuitous gotchas. Please may I have more?
I tried to post a fact check of the fact checker but it did not make the posting cutoff so here it is.

NBC's Courtney Kube
Fact: The President's budget calls for a 2.9% increase in pay for members of the military -- but pay for members of the military increases every year

nuance's fact check:
For fiscal year 1983 Ronald Reagan froze military pay. Google on historical military pay charts and you will find one for every year except 1983. You have to go to pre-1963 to find another gap in pay charts.  I call on Courtney to correct her reporting to say "every year except under Ronald Reagun" if she dares burst the bubble of the conservative hawks and chickenhawks.

http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/historical-military-pay-rates
The Iraq war is just Step X on the road to controlling terrorism. What, you thought this was going to be easy? You see, liberals, in their deep hatred of anything associated with Bush, lost sight of the fact that fighting terrorism is more then fighting in Iraq and fighting in Afghanistan. Fighting the fight is about a lot of things both foreign and domestic. Terrorism doesn't stop when we declare victory in Iraq, or Afghanistan either. It continues, and it must be fought at each place it turns up.

Some people like 'nuanced' think the war is over. It's not. It's just moved to another venue. The war is not even close to being done. The problem is, Obama thinks a lot like 'nuanced'. Obama's attention and agenda are on other things. This could allow an opening for the terrorists to strike here again. That's bad news. The #1 job of the President is to protect the country. Obama doesn't see it that way. That's bad for America.
And, the terrorists win.

I'm certain the families of the KIA and the wounded feel much better about things today.
Charles Rodgers, Lincoln, NE (Sent Friday, February 27, 2009 4:33 PM)
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Oh, you must mean the ones we've been ignoring until recently in afghanistan...I'm sure the KIA would rather have their sons and daughters back from an operation that was built on lies and deception.  And I'm sure the 500K Iraqi civilian casualties would of liked to be around to see another day too....

But hey, as long as we "win" everything is worth it.  I wish you people would grow up and realize this isn't a game to lose or win.
Gail, TN;

Thanks to George Bush, Obama is able to make that speech.

Just a side question:  If oil was really our objective, our primary objective, don't you think we could have accomplished that in pretty short order?
Richard, Washington State (Sent Friday, February 27, 2009 2:02 PM)

And Gail:

There was nothing new in the speech, only the mouth that uttered it.  It reflected consistency with the past, even though I doubt your ingrained perspective allows you to acknowledge it.

There are plenty of Bush speeches and comments that reflect the message President Obama conveyed in such a favorable way to you. (Richard, Washington State, from two previous posts)

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Richard in Washington State:

I didn't say anything either positive or negative about President Bush in my post, and yes, there are positive things that I could say about him.

For your information, I voted for George Bush twice, and he lost my support during his response to Katrina.  

So, my political perspective is not so "ingrained" as you state.

It is always dangerous to make assumptions.
eagle1776:

The Iraq war hardly qualifies as a real war.  Now, Korea, that was a real war.  And Vietnam? Less time spent but ten to twenty times the carnage and expense.

The Russians left Afghanistan two decades ago.  15,000 Russian soldiers dead and an estimated 1 million combatants and civilians dead.

Iraq is a pretty punk war by almost every measure.

But as is our nature, the United States likes to exaggerate.
Charles Rodgers, Lincoln, NE (Sent Friday, February 27, 2009 4:33 PM)
And, the terrorists win.
I'm certain the families of the KIA and the wounded feel much better about things today.
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Charles

it's so nice to have a President who cares and tries his best to do what he  promised and to be honest.
What can you say about the previous liar?

BTW, the Iraqis are in agreement with our President.
They want us out.
I certainly agree with Nuanced. Nice reporting Athena. Keep it up!

Good reaction from the Lance Corporal. Great to here that the President's respect for the troops was noticed.

Gee, sure hope that 'stimulus' that was rushed through without being read kicks in soon.  Oh, that's right, 2/3 or it will not start until 2010.  
Well, good thing we gave all that money to the banks, just like we did under Bush, although that didn't seem to give investors any confidence either.  Well at least Geither is on top of it, even though when last he spoke in public the Dow dropped 300 points.  But he gave such a hope-filled speach, the other night, and then came out with a budget that sinks us ever further in debt?  O.k., o.k., well it is not like anything Obamanation has done so far has made the economy worse. Right? Right?

Oh, wait...

(And the economy continues to sink. Market gain down 120.)
 Why do folks think that withdrawing from a war in a thaughtful and responsible way is wrong? Our mission has never been clear and now at least we have an endgame. What's the gripeing about. We could stay there for twenty years and still be hated for being there. That accompishes nothing except more life lost and a Middle East still in crisis with more people hating us and terrorism being constantly stoked for no good reason. Some good has been accomplished but at such a horrible price. Both for our troups and civilians and for the Iraquis. Let us try to get out of there and leave them to decide their own fate.
Questions remain:

Will Obama allow American Oil Companies to STEAL Iraqi OIL ?

IS THAT why we were there ?

Obama should state and Congress should pass a law FORBIDING American Oil Companies from profitting from American and Iraqi DEATHS

NO BLOOD FOR OIL !!!


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