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Pawlenty: GOP demise 'exaggerated'

Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:29 PM by Domenico Montanaro



From NBC's Abby Livingston
If Rick Santorum delivered tough love to the CPAC audience, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) followed him with sunshine. He opened his remarks calling his wife "hot," and then declared, "The reports of the demise of the conservative movement are greatly exaggerated."

He followed up with, "I've been to CPAC before. You are not timid. You are not weak."

Amid his jokes and anecdotes and metaphors and smiles, the oft-mentioned 2012 GOP contender was on the prowl to shore up his conservative credentials.

He hit as many boilerplate issues as he could, using the word "God" often; he praised standardized testing; and he railed against the tenure system in public education.

But at a convention where Al Gore is the equivalent of Public Enemy No. 1, Pawlenty advocated for alternative energy. He called for an "all hands on deck" approach to get off oil.

"We need to do everything reasonable to get off foreign oil," he said, but in a move that would make Frank Luntz proud, he used a term called "American-ize" as a strategy for energy independence. The term, which he reiterated, seemed to fall in line with Sen. McCain's belief that society should use all forms of local energy to relieve oil independence.

Pawlenty's tone turned sharper when he shifted to the deficit. He called the new stimulus plan a "spending buffet." His most memorable line of the morning was one of the few harsh ones he delivered. He mocked the notion of Democrats as fiscally responsibly. He referenced a Democratic party summit on fiscal discipline, adding, "What's next? Are they going to have Rod Blagojevich convene an ethics summit?"

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The prospects for an economic recovery by year's end dimmed yesterday, as government data showed that the economy contracted at the end of 2008 by the fastest pace in a quarter-century.

The worse-than-expected data fueled doubts about whether the Obama administration had adequately sized up the challenges it faces in trying to pull the country out of recession.

Does this suprise anyone. Obama has never had this type of responsibility.

Who is going to pay for the Obama Budget?

Feb 28th, 2009. Have you Blamed Your Bush today?

Don't forget!
Obama's budget commits the government to a billion dollars a day in interest on the debt over the next decade.

Obama's budget commits the government to a billion dollars a day in interest on the debt over the next decade.

Obama's budget commits the government to a billion dollars a day in interest on the debt over the next decade.

Oh My Gosh!

Oh My Gosh!

Oh My Gosh!
Let me see if I follow, MSNBC-FR will work on weekends to cover CPAC.  But most other weekends off?  I don't see why the exception is made for this group.  
While evaluating last week's work, please count the number of posts devoted to CPAC.  I find it to be an inordinate amount of coverage.  I'd be hard pressed to point to a bright spot in last week's coverage.  
If the MSNBC-FR is attempting to turn the reader off; last week was a rousing success.
The Republican party is going down for the third time now - read 2006, 2009, and 2010 looms on the horizon. So what is a drowning party to do? Why grasp at anything floating by in hopes that it will provide sufficient ballast to stay afloat.  Such is the nature of CPAC this year and the participants have all the attributes of cornered animals - mean and nasty.
Sorry, but for people who are part of neither the democratic nor republican parties, appearance at CPAC is a DISINCENTIVE for voters.  The rhetoric is harsh, inaccurate and anti-intellectual.  God is not human and does not have political affiliation, so efforts to pigeonhole God into one group or another is offensive to all. If the Republican party can embrace Sam's club republicans, they are going to have to look at health care and the (relatively) low wages that go to teaching, nursing and law enforcement. They are going to have to give up on the idea that the middle class is "losing out" because others are handed jobs they deserve and embrace a complete meritocracy.
Al Gore. Why would FR bring up Al Gore?

If there's a God in heaven the ice shelf will break away and find it's way to Al's front door.  
It seems as if Pawlenty is the only hope the republicans have to come up with a potential presidential candidate.  

So far there is no indication he believes in exorcism as Jindal does (see http://blow.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/bobby-jindal-the-exorcist-pro-or-con/) and he even cut off his pony tail/mullet to make himself more presentable.  At this point, what more can the republican's ask for?
Good to hear that Pawlenty acknowledges the necessity of getting off our dependence on oil.  Yet, he then blasts the stimulus bill, which includes investment in alternative energy.  Doesn't the GOP understand the tried and true adage--"you've gotta spend some money to make some"?

From Santorium: "He praised talk radio's ability to reach the logically minded..."

LOL!! Now THAT is a real joke! There is no logic to Rush Limbaugh's lies and ugly hatred. And as long as people like him are the conservatives' "finale" speaker, someone to whom they look up to, middle America will look for other, better role models. . .like Obama!  He is not a Messiah; most of us are well aware of the fact that he is a mere mortal with weaknesses as well as strengths.  I personally place my faith in God and pray for our President to make wise decisions.  I believe that it's going to take practically a miracle to get us out of this mess.  But publicly hoping the President fails, as Limbaugh has stated, is irresponsible.
Blah blah blah. These guys can tell the devoted anything they want and it gets sucked up like a June big by a hungry carp: some of them still chant that Sadam was behind 9/11.

The choir still loves you, but making Al Gore into the terrorist Algore was stupid and short sighted beyond redemption. Think a little - who does that really help? The extraction industry, which Bush happened to get people from to staff the EPA, BLM, Interior (how was jail, J. Steven Griles?). Are you starting to get it?
June bug.
er... which party just spent our entire surplus on a war that was used made up intelligence?? Indeed that does not represent fiscal responsibility. Sounds like the same sweeping remarks and absent minded policies that is representative of this pathetic party of ignorance.
yOU RICH PEOPLE STILL DONT GET IT AND ARCHIE BUNKER IS LEADING YOUR PARTY RUCH LIMBAUGH WHAT A IDIOT TIME FOR ARCHIE TO MEET GEORGE JEFFERSON. RON CHRISTY YOU HELPED THE BUSHES RUIN THIS CONTRY AND YOU WANT TO GET ON TV AND SPEW GARBAGE HEY RON WHEN WAS THE LST TIME YOU WERE BLACK U DAMN SELLOUT KEEP IT UP REPUBLICANS REAGAN IS DEAD AND SO ID HIS POLICIES
8 YRS AND RICH PEOPLE TOOK HOME MORE THAN 834BILLION AND THIS COUNTRY IS BROKE NAH TIME TO GET IN THERE POCKETS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING IN OURS.  PER THE WORDS OF GEORGE BUSH HIMSELF THE HAVE ANED HAVE MORES HUH NOW ITS THE HAVE NOTS AND THE HAVE LESS SO NO MORE BUILDING ISLANDS IN DUBAI OR JOHN AND CINDY MCCAIN BUYING HOUSES AND RACDING CARS.  WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME CINDY MCCAINS COMPANY GAVE THOSE POPLE RAISES YEAH LIKE WE DONT KNOW SHE OWNS A STAKE IN BUDWEISER REPUCLIAN SUCK NOW ITS TIME TO BEND YOU OVER LIKE YOUVE BEEN DOING US
RUBLICANS THEY MADE A MOVE ABOUT YOU GUYS ALREADY NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN.  RUSH LIMBAUGH IS THE NEW JAKE AND THE FAT MAN. HE SHOULD GET OFF THE RADIO AND GO GET A MIRROR AND TRACE THE LINES ON HIS FAT BELLY NO PROK U SAY START WITH HIM AND SARAH PALIN IN THE WELFARE STATE OF ALASKA
Well, a little more to the right of this topic. I just watch Pelosi's Right America,Feeling Wronged.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/16/221014/576/330/698359

And the number one thing that pops to mind after this reiteration of what I've seen in this election is that Obama's need to reform our education definitely has to be up there along with the fix for the economy.  Either too much inbreeding here or people really need to socialize outside their churches, fox news, and nascar. Talk about the HYPOCRISY of these people!!! Are they even aware of their stupidity?! The very people Obama wanted to help and they act just like their equally hypocrite and idiot repugnant leaders.
One dude literally admitted how backward he was by disagreeing on women's voting here in this country. Hello?! Isn't that just like the Taliban and other fanatical Islamic nations?!
One nascar guy bawled about how this country isn't how it used to be. Well, we've been under Repugs for most of the time, and it was changing then, and got worse under Dubya's 8 years!
The GOP will bring this country back to the dark ages with the help of their illiterate constituents.
Sorry to sound harsh, but it seems pretty hard to knock some sense to the right - which is why this country remains divided starting with the right wing elected officials who endorse this ridiculous behavior even when they SHOULD know better. And by the way, by the sound of this article of Pawlenty, yeah all in line of the usual yap, pandering with God, but no ACTUAL DETAILED PROPOSED solutions.  Figures.....
What's next? Are they going to have Rod Blagojevich convene an ethics summit?"

hahahaaaa that's funny.
The demise has already happened when November 2008 rolled around and the repukes had nothing positive to offer anyone!!!! The repuke game is over and it has been called out and my president namedobama is the only person that can do this country any good at all!!!
LOL! These guys can't be serious. After they were crushed in the last election.(They were, despite how many times they tell you how close it was.)Now they are telling Americans that Obama is a socialist (and implying worse). We aren't buying it anymore. Add the fact Coulter, Limbaugh, and Malkin are their role-models, spell doom for the Republican Party.
I guess we should go back to the way we did the economy for the past 8 years again, right?  Certainly it was the fault of no one why we are in the shape we are in.  Let's definitely not give the guy we elected 4 months ago a chance, because 8 years of failed economics is still just waiting to turn the corner after all that time....:P
gays,guns and abortion that is all the republicans have to offer us,they are not fiscally responsible,the absolutely only thing they have going for them is another terrorist attack,sadly.through fear is how they operate,and now that they are on the ropes they claim that they now believe in global warning? Dont let them keep preying on you god fearing folk!!  
Haven't such a happy group of rightists since 1935 in Neuremburg.
In the immortal words of Jack Nicholson, "You %!#%$ People"

In The Immortal theme of George Orwell, when are you farm animals going to realize the pigs have turned.

A fool and his money..... are soon Republican!
Rush Limbaugh is a madman - not an angry man, but truly mad!  Is anyone at FR planning on doing some fact checking of his tirade to the CPAC faithful?  Might take a while.
Pretty amusing coming from someone who won't be governor in two years because of his mismanagement of the state of Minnesota, and who has distanced himself from our continuing disgrace, normie coleman,who is single-handedly destroying the credibility of the repubs in Minnesota with his never ending lawsuit.  Talk about state of denial, that's where pawlenty will be the guv in 2010.
Pawlenty's potential to become a resident of the White House in the near or far distant future is great exaggerated!
Is Rudi Giuliani in a witness protection program or something?  Remember when you guys were so convinced it was going to be Rudi vs HRC? Has anybody heard a peep out of this guy this year? Pundits.  The only people outside of Wall Street who get big fat paychecks for being wrong.
It's just amazing. The Republicans, starting with RR and ending with GWB, got us into this mess with lower taxes for corporations and the wealthy, while spending like there was no tomorrow on defense. Oh yeah, they pulled the regulators off the field so The Market could work its magic in home loans and casino style gambling with derivatives and credit default swaps so complicated nobody knew what they were buying. Now that we are in the worst recession since Depression, what do they preach? More of the same: cut taxes, build more weapons systems, and OK, we need some financial regulation, but not too much.

Of course, the Dems are reckless and irresponsible because they want to get the economy started by a) keeping the banking system from going broke while it  chokes on the rotten home loans they made and pawned off as AAA rated securities b) taking care of ordinary people with tax cuts for join filers with under $250,000 in annual earnings, c) providing health insuance for more kids, d) sending more American kids to college and e) investing in infrasturcture. I know this all sounds pretty radical, especially the part about paying for it by raising taxes (actually, just letting them return to pre-2002 levels) on corporations, the wealthy, and those who collect dividend checks, and getting our troops out of Iraq. Those crazy Democrats.

Funny thing is the majority of Americans are just as crazy because they realize the mess we are in and how we got there, and what it is going to take to get out.
Republicans can go to hell!!!!!
I'm glad T-Paw seemed to find some extra time in his day to jet out to DC for CPAC to muster up whats left of the fringe of the GOP.  It isn't like we have problems here in MN that require his attention or effort.  I'm glad that he felt like everything was in great shape here so he could head to DC for a nice little break.  You know, tomorrow I'm telling my boss that I think everything is fine in the office so I'm not coming in.  
Why don't we see any mention of Rush Limbaugh's speech at CPAC yesterday?? Both Fox and CNN reported the news...
All I can say for Santorum and Limbaugh, is "OINK" "OINK" "OINK".  If Limbaugh wants to appeal to women, he needs to lose 100lbs. and put duck tape on his mouth.
At what point do we call the conservatives obstructionists and harmful to the country.  They are willing to harm anyone that does not agree with them, they support no new ideas, and they have no new ideas.
Personally I think Pawlenty's credentials are greatly exaggerated. The GOP will be extinct after 2009......YIPEEEEE!
=== RUSH IS RIGHT --- OBAMA IS FAR LEFT ===
thats almost as bad as Michelle Bachman convening on Ethics, that woman is crazy and an idiot.  I have heard her on the ethics floor, and what a joke she is.
"He followed up with, "I've been to CPAC before. You are not timid. You are not weak."


But if you think GWB was a good president, you are stupid.
The Evil of Extremism: White Supremacists, Nazism, bin Ladenism, Limbaughism, ,, all characterized by self-proclaimed righteousness, open or disguised hatred of others, egotism, self-indulgence, excused gross dishonesty, rationalized and exaggerated self-protection, feelings that more is owed them, aristocratic style arrogance, proclaimed absolute authority and more, all being examples of a warped, self-centered, sociopathic philosophy that seeks to falsely justify suppressing some while elevating themselves. The individual doctrines are promoted by charismatic leaders using twisted arguments to create enthusiasm in crowds seeking to belong. The cure: a large dose of humility, an openness to all others, an adapting of honest objectivity, a patience with reality, an acceptance of own fallibility, an understanding of fitting in instead of presiding over, disciplined moderation and a faith that is real in recognizing and accepting everyone's equal value under God. Extremism will always eventually bring down the society that incorporates it but in the process it will cause drastic harm and severe injustice - it is a sickness.
Pawlenty, along with all republicns are ignoring the voices of the American people. They refuse to change, support the survival of our country and continue on with the unworkable, out dated policies that brought our country to it's knees.
And, have never admitted or faced what they have done to our great nation.
Wow!  This is some mean spirited stuff.  If you all represent the future, I'm afraid for peace and prosperity.  I am a Republican that wants to see Obama succeed for everyone's sake.  I'm a hard working, middle class American that doesn't want the government to use my tax dollars for free loaders.  If you want a college education, save your money, earn a scholarship, or join the military.  Don't rely on freebies from Uncle Sam.  That goes for all the pork and free handouts. I'm willing to help those in need, to help themselves.  Everybody needs a helping hand now and then, but not forever. Why does everybody blame this economic mess SOLEY on Pres. Bush?  Carter and Clinton and many in Congress played significant roles in laying the ground work for the bad loans trying to put everyone in a home even if they couldn't afford it.  They spear headed the change in legislation that loosened the standards for credit.  This whole mess has too many dishonest, greedy and egotistical individuals involved to blame just one person. Blaming Bush is the easy way out.  He gets the blame for the National Debt (mostly for the war), but a lot of other people get the blame for the foreclosures, greedy investment strategies and now the recession for lack of consumer confidence and thus less spending!
Pawlenty is truely another "Gross Odd Person" with no common sense. He is one of the many "brown-shirts" attending "CRAP-PAC." Isn't this being held in Nuremburg Germany again this year?? The smell of raw crap representing their facts, and their speeches of "spew" are just scary to hear about. The "RAT PAC" attending "CRAP-PAC" is insulting to our nation. I am shocked that Adolf did not show up to speak yet. Oh! That's right! He is dead! No one tell "Crazy Coulter" that because, she will just start crying again! Time to move forward America!
Candidates with strong libertarian leanings needs to be our future. Pence, Ryan, Cantor are good eggs.
The Republican Party needs to go back to being a Moderate Centrist Party in the mold of Lincoln, Rockerfeller, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and Eisenhower.  When you hear people talk about being a Reagan Republican it is that type of ideology that messed up the Republican Party.   Reagan Republicism is what undermined the original Republican Party.   Reagan Republicanism economics is the type of economics that got this country in the economic crisis.  Company downsizing started during the Reagan years and it was an idea in Reaganomics.  Reagan Economics is the type of economics that got this country in a deficit.   Reagan Republicanism is the type of ideology to have massive military spending on weapons systems that were of no use after the Cold War.  Extensive Military spending on eleborate weapons systems is what also got this country in debt.   Reagan Republicism is also social conservatism.  Its the type of Conservatism where the Government can make up laws telling people who should merry and who should get an abortion.   The original Republican Party was the Party that supported Government staying out of personal lives.  Trying to pass laws on what kind of people should merry and telling women how to manage their health is more Government in peoples private lives.  Reagan Republicism also supports states rights and is against certain civil rights legislation.  Civil Rights is the very thing that started the Republican Party on Lincoln.  It is the far right type of people that put Reagan Republicism in the Republican Party.
You know, I love the hate in these comments by liberals. You denounce us conservatives as hatemongers but you use the worst of terms in describing conservatives--fellow Americans.

Conservatives are not racist, hateful, or racist. Conservatives merely reject Marx, reject socialism (Communism lite), and embrace the American ideals of personal liberty and a free market. We want American production to be in America and illegal immigration to be under control and for states to control themselves, not to be controlled by Supreme Court justices. Conservatives favor reasonability and common sense in actions. While Republicans have not acted in doing so, they are the only conservatives in governments (though they unfortunately constantly move left) and I must trust them to be a faithful opposition party and keep Obama in check. Americans have never known socialism and may be in for a rude awakening once it manifests.

I am the Russian-speaking son of immigrants from the Soviet Union and I can say that my family knew suffering under an extreme-left regime. The conservatives greatly reflect what the countless people who suffered under communism want. The right will come back in a heartbeat by the time Obama gets through this term once Americans know what socialism entails.

Here's the startling fact, though: most of us don't support Bush. Limbaugh criticized Bush policies in his speech. Bush and his "neo-Cons" are hardly representative of the conservative and libertarian movements in general.
Pawlenty has done nothing for Minnesota but take a state that was close to #1 for most areas of quality of life and slowly drag it down.  He has done a terrible job of running our state and is more interested in furthering his political career than trying to run the state.
us democrats rule now...we gunna take all the money from you rich fat cats and give it to poor folks that deserve it...repubs are losers...and soon we will make them "poor losers" by taking everything from them.
The GOP has no idea what it stands for, and their leadership is totally devoid of fresh ideas to present to the American public.  So instead they use the "shotgun" approach to politics--randomly attack Democrats and their policies, juvenilely call Obama names ("Socialist!!!") in a feeble attempt to stir fear and hatred among the masses, desperately hoping to hit something, anything.  

So far, they've mostly just hit air.
Al Gore. Why would FR bring up Al Gore?

If there's a God in heaven the ice shelf will break away and find it's way to Al's front door.  
Palomino (Sent Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:34 PM)
________

Palomino, please remember it was none other than Rush himself who said the melting of the polar ice caps would not affect the water levels.  He pointed to the concept of how an ice cube melts in a glass of water and doesn't raise the water level.  Seems old Rushie boy forgot that the polar ice caps are not currently IN the water, so they would indeed have an effect if they melted.

I guess all that Oxy he is addicted to is making his reasoning shaky.


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