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Congress: Obama's Dem opposition

Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:14 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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Sens. Evan Bayh and Russ Feingold said they are voting against the omnibus spending bill and urged the president to veto it.

"President Barack Obama's proposal to limit itemized tax deductions for high earners is running into opposition from key Democrats in Congress who worry that charities and the housing market would be hurt," AP reports.

Salon’s Mike Madden asks, “Why is John McCain being such a jerk?” From the story: “A couple of weeks after Barack Obama beat John McCain in the election last year, the former rivals got together in Chicago for a friendly chat. The meeting went so well, despite the months of political combat, that they issued a joint statement afterward, promising to work hand-in-hand to reform government. The night before Obama took office this year, he threw a dinner in McCain's honor. Both men said they hoped they could put the bruising campaign behind them. Which is why the way McCain is spending his time less than two months later is a little strange: Lately, he seems to be going out of his way to remind the country of how much he and Obama disagree.”

NBC’s Mike Viqueira reports that a deal was reached yesterday for Karl Rove and Harriet Miers to testify before Congress on the firings of US attorneys during the Bush administration. Under the arrangement, both would testify behind closed doors to the House Judiciary Committee. The testimony would NOT be under oath, but the Dem source hastens to add that lying to Congress -- sworn or not sworn -- is a criminal offense.

Video: Karl Rove, along with former White House Counsel Harriet Miers, have agreed to testify before Congress.

No date has been set. The committee is also expected to get access to long-requested documents.

The Hill: “The agreement follows months of negotiations between Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), the chairman of the Judiciary panel, and the two advisers to then-President Bush. The deal ends a months-long separation-of-powers standoff between Congress and the administration.”

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Are Evan Bayh and Russ Feingold now also included in the Party of No?
Proves there are really responsible Democrats in Congress --- too bad they are not the Democrats in the White House.
FR: "The way McCain is spending his time less than two months later is a little strange: Lately, he seems to be going out of his way to remind the country of how much he and Obama disagree.”


Yeah, what is with McCain? Why doesn't he want to jump on the Obama Express? Everyone loves Obama, even that ugly looking British guy Gordon Brown.
Is Obama unhappy unless everyone is kissing his butt?
It is time to think about the economy and not about specific industries and charities that might be hurt. The two senators want expanded healthcare, expanded safety nets but fail to want to pay for them. Think again. The role of excessive tax deductions is serious in this country. Come on and think raise money to spent it.
john mccain is being a Jerk, because he is a Jerk, what else can he be?
McGrinch is a bitter, vindictive and two faced sore loser. While Obama shows class. Thankfully, the former was not elected it would have been the continuation of shrubism- MY WAY AND I'M THE DECIDER!
Democrats Bayh and Feingold need to stop acting like repugnant ones and vote for the spending bill that cuts down the itemized deductions of the rich and greedy.  Time to stop protecting these deadbeat tax evaders and start collecting more taxes from them to pay us back for all the wealth we gave them through all that tax cut welfare of the past 28 years.

Yippee time for rove and miers to fess up for their sins in breaking laws firing those 8 US attorneys for political reasons.  Prison is where these lawbreakers belong.  How smart does turdblossom look now?  Thanks klueless karl for handing Congress and the White House to us Liberal Democrats!

Prison for rove and miers!
Why is John McCain being such a jerk? I think it's something about a leopard and his spots.

McCain was a marginally competent naval aviator who parlayed a single  (albeit severe) personal hardship into a self-satisfying career in the spotlight. His campaign tactics showed his lack of class, and his unwarranted sense of entitlement continues to drive his actions.
You ask why is John McCain being such a jek?  The answer is self-evident.  He is a jerk.  He showed time and time again during the campaign that he doesn't grasp the main issues and therfore goes for soundbites.
Also, he is like a little boy who wants lots of attention.
What the media has to ask itself is does the public really care what he says and does
And the media should ask the same question about Rush ?
On January 6th Obie said his policies would contain no earmarks. It was a promise yet there are 9000+ earmarks in the last bill he signed, at pop-up Pelosi's insistance.

Doesn't that "fact" make Obie a LIAR? That's L-I-A-R.
Undisputable info for the libbys to digest and obviously "try" to sell off as "so what" or tell some tale about former prez GWB.

But I'm not talking about Bush. I'm saying what Obie is a liar, not that it's really important to any of you in cyberspace. The Cabinet of Crooks that Obie has maintained as "they made a few mistakes" was another one for the late night comedians.

While most politicians lie at one time or another, and, yes, sometimes they have to change their speech promises due to situations that come up, this Obie incident ISN'T one of them. Obie just did what Pelosi wanted. She wrote the entire bill and Obie signed it. Maybe he didn't read it. That goes on a lot among Dems. So who is running the country? I might suggest it's pop-up Pelosi. And so we have the first female prez with Obie as her mouthpiece. Is that what you voted for? A spineless jellyfish who doesn't even have the capability to sting?

This just in:

Politicians grandstanding about spending to win a few votes is not news, EVEN if they are "Democrats".

These Einsteins have never had an original idea in their lives - they are just retreating to the safe position - "I was against it!" - so they can win re-election in their little districts and not have to look for a REAL JOB when there aren't any.

Riddle me this:

Are people who are unemployed and homeless just supposed to sleep in the park until the economy magically fixes itself after a series of ingenious tax cuts for people lucky enough to still have a job?

That's not a plan, that's burying your head in the sand and whistling Dixie.

Works politically, but just alot of empty words on a park bench in winter with a family of four, don't ya think?
Even though they reached an agreement for having Karl Rove testify, it won't go anywhere. Karl Rove is a slimy individual and will weasel his way out of every question asked. The more we learn about the Bush Administration, it is evident that Dick Cheney wanted a dictatorship and felt they were above the law with every aspect of governing. Karl Rove and Dick Cheney should share a cell together.....they deserve each other.
Democrats are the party of "no."
But I'm not talking about Bush. I'm saying what Obie is a liar, not that it's really important to any of you in cyberspace. The Cabinet of Crooks that Obie has maintained as "they made a few mistakes" was another one for the late night comedians.

Palomino (Sent Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:41 AM)
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Cabinet of Crooks, but yesterday you spoke of how offshore Tax evading loopholes are needed and that ferreting out those loopholes is unamerican.  Your hypocrisy is losing any sort of influence you had Palomino.

and please give us more information on the thought process behind these actions that counter what has been public said about the matter.  i'm sure you know more than we do with your highly privileged information that us pleebs aren't party to...

The Omnibus bill is supposedly from last session from what i've read, so if it wasn't important enough for that do nothing congress to deal with, i say it isn't important enough to pass now, especially with every republican senator putting as much pork into the bill as possible in order to manufacture McCain's false outrage over passing it.  

the electorate has arisen from our decades long slumber, and will no longer accept failure and the political machine to operate in the way it has under neo con and conservative leadership.  we will now hold you accountable and use the power of our votes to take back this country that was made by the people, and for the people.  the sooner conservatives learn that, the better off their party will be.
"On January 6th Obie said his policies would contain no earmarks" -Palomino

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Simply put, that's a lie. President Obama has never said any such thing.

The President pledged to REFORM the earmark process, not eliminate it.

Either post the link supporting what you say or stop spreading misinformation.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/mar/02/john-boehner/spending-bill-wasnt-candidate-obamas-type-boehner-/

Is it just me or does Karl Rove look like a thinner Rush Limbuger.Are they clones,Rush seems to spew Karl like Out of touch wing-nut drool.I think you have the Bomber all wrong,you see John boy has been coddled since he was a child, every time John boy screwed up,,daddy was there to bail out John Boy,he has tried his whole life to live up to expectations.He must feel like his time has come to leave the gravy train and go Homes,and gaze at what his Wifes millions has bought.The guys a spoiled little winger.
GM's outside auditors are pretty convinced that the company is going to need bankruptcy protection in order to restructure and maybe survive , maybe not. Our government first dropped a few bllion on this turkey when Bush shamelessly let himself be pressured into giving GM and its sister turkey Chrysler, money to "save" it. Then of course Obama couldn't wait to drop another 17 billion on GM and Chrysler as soon as he could. Now their back looking for more. Obie wants to give it to them to save his union supporters. Well its time to pull the plug. Let these companies go into planned bankruptcy , shed their ruinous ties with the UAW, and re-emerge or better yet be broken up into several , more efficient and better run smaller companies. Many jobs will be lost but many employees will be retained with better prospects for long term employment. It has come to this primarily because of the ridiculously rich contracts the UAW extorted out of the Big 3 when things were really good in Detroit and the UAW needs to learn an expensive lesson from their greed. Collective greed has no bounds and GM's unionized workers brought this on themselves. Oh, I know we are hearing talk about "well we (taxpayers) will have to absorb the enormous costs of their pensions". That's pure BS because these UAW workers will be covered by the Pension Guarantee Fund that has a LIMIT on how much a covered person can draw (unless the Dems try to amend this limit to save their greedy supporters in the UAW. at our expense )So we can either continue dumping our money (and our decendants money)into this money pit or we can reduce our total exposure by letting them fail. As for health benefits what's wrong with Medicare? We've been told by the dems for years that it is the best thing since the wheel. Isn't it good enough for an auto worker? If they are too young to be covered? Horrors! they may have to go back to work. I for one am tired of this charade the Dems are pulling off to save an obsolete, broken down vestige of the 1970's
Why is McCain being such a jerk? John McCain is just being himself, he can't help it any more than Pres. Obama can help the fact that he's half black half white!!
I wonder why Rove, and Myers will be testifying not under oath? It took Rove 5 times to get his testimony right before the grand jury looking into the Plame leak investigation, I'm hoping this testimony will be more revealing than say Gonzales repeating 60 plus times that he didn't recall to questions asked.
This tactic is total BS, yes people can forget some details, but these people are far from stupid, they are cunning operatives with a plan, an agenda to accomplish some goal, they have tried to cover their tracks as best they can, and to a very large part they have succeeded.
I know that telling the truth for Rove may be the single most hardest thing he will ever do!!
When you start telling lies you set up a long list of things that can be looked at, and others get involved, and "facts" start to oppose statements made by all the parties involved.
Who knows where all this will lead? I'll be following this closely as I'm a big believer in the truth, and one such truth is the justice department is no place for politics from any side, we need justice to prevail!!
Palomino, I agree with you.  Obama is a serial liar.  I just don't understand why the liberals eat it up and make excuses for him.
Mccain is just being Mccain. He showed his true colors during the campaign with his swiftboating tactics, the same that were used on him when he lost to Bush. He lost all honor and integrity he may have once had. Now he is continuing the same lack of responsibility, pandering in front of the cameras putting his ego and party before the survival of our country. Along with his fellow unAmerican, hypocritical republicans.
Democrats are the party of "no."
Just say no (Sent Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:57 AM)

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Right:

"No" to wars we are lied into fighting.
"No" to torture.
"No" to pointless obstructionists.
"No" to more tax cuts for the rich that haven't "trickled down."
"No" to market based health care that has failed 46 million Americans for decades.

Fortunately, Democrats are saying "Yes" to solving those problems.  Now if the Republicans want to come to the table and offer something constructive, Obama is more than happy to listen and incorporate good ideas.  But the tired "Tax cuts only" and "let the market work" mantras of this neo-Hooverism the Republicans are doing presently is most definitely a recipe for failure.

Don't be pro-failure by doing the same thing as you've always done and expect a different result.  Be pro-success.
About McCAIN being a jerk,there is a supposedly true story of him as a child were when he  would not get his way he would hold his breath until he passed out, wow that's some fit!!!
This goes way back!!
Maybe he can learn to hold his breath again, only longer this time!!!
"Our government first dropped a few bllion on this turkey when Bush shamelessly let himself be pressured into giving GM and its sister turkey Chrysler, money to "save" it. Then of course Obama couldn't wait to drop another 17 billion on GM and Chrysler as soon as he could. Now their back looking for more." - Paul
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Um, Paul.

17 billion is LESS than the failed Wall Street firms paid themselves last year in "bonuses" for running their companies in the ground.

I would rather save 3 million jobs of middle class
Americans than the 500 jobs of the Billionaire Boys Club that robbed and stole us into this mess in the first place. (And then had the unmitigated GALL to blame it on poor people. . . there must be a special place in hell.)

But that's just me.
The serial liars are the ones who won't acknowledge  who ran this country for 15 years and brought the global economy to its knees--republicans.  In case you missed the news, we had a dictator for the last 8 years; on the advice of his legal lapdogs, our constitutional rights were dispenced with one stroke of the Bush pen, then he gave the pen to Cheney for a souvenier.  Easy for you to rant against a new president, go ahead, it's your right but you might try doing it with intelligence instead of tired, broken GOP ideas, and FOX, Limbaugh lies.  Suddenly the repubicans have religion regarding spending; too bad they waited until the economy collapsed to vote NO.  Herbert Hoover caught the cut-spending bug, too, and the Great Depression followed.  Guess that's what the GOP wants to do again.  President Obama can't fix in 45 days what took the GOP 15 years to destroy.  
>>>Palomino, I agree with you.  Obama is a serial liar.  I just don't understand why the liberals eat it up and make excuses for him.
Cap'n Crunch (Sent Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:45 AM)

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But yet you probably have no problems with how Limbaugh-Zombies try to justify his "I hope Obama fails" rant by claiming he meant Obama's policies, not Obama himself, which is a lot like saying, "I don't really wish you dead, I just want all of your bodily functions and brain activity to suddenly cease."  Limbaugh is simply trying to clean it up so that the Republicans who agree with him can go on the news shows with a neat explanation for the dittoheads and sheep who are too pathalogically stupid to realize that he's just saying the same thing.  If Obama's policies fail, HE FAILS.  THAT IS WHAT HE (AND YOU) ARE HOPING FOR!

http://jawillie.blog.com
HMI, VERY PITHY and very true.
I would beg the president to rethink the budget.  Most of the earmarks are ridiculous, especially with the economy the way it is.  I think Obama is the right man for the job but please!!!!!! a grant to study pig odor.  Give me a break.
I'm glad there are Democrats and Republicans that are beginning to see the error of the current administration's way, and that includes Pelosi and Reed's errors as well. This spending is bleeding away the life blood of America and rather than fix the problem, the Democrats want to open up another major artery. One almost gets the impression that the intention is to completely mortgage the future of America.
Reality ckeck! It does not matter who controls Congress or the White House, as long as politicians are allowed to display 'loyalty for sale' signs on their doors and lobbist have access to our representatives, American taxpayers will underwrite giveaways to the rich. Serving the people was intended to be an occupation of nobility not an avenue to wealth and power as most politicians now perceive. And the the only way to stop politicians from selling their loyalty to the highest bidder is for the people themselves to enact 'ethical' (not campaign finance laws). State by state the people can enact laws that are veto proof (1st amendment right), laws that forbid any particular representative elected to represent a particular constituency from accepting monetary contributions, gifts or favors from any source a representative was not elected to represent. Elected officials are no different than lawyers, lawyers may not accept money or favors from those who may be in opposition to the best interests of one's clients (constituents)on a particular matter. Fix it permanently, allow elected officials to accept cotributions only from those they are empowered to represent, 'bring back the soap boxes '


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