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Obama faces Notre Dame backlash

Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:21 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Christopher Wilson
As reported here on First Read Friday, President Obama will be speaking at the University of Notre Dame commencement ceremony on May 17th.  While the president will also be speaking at the Naval Academy and Arizona State, those appearances haven’t caused as much uproar as his trip to South Bend, Ind.
 
In today’s edition of the student newspaper, The Observer, letters to the editor, which are usually reserved for debates over the color of The Shirt or whether it’s proper to chant “Sucks” at sporting events -- was expanded to cover a lively debate over whether Obama should be speaking.  

“Obama choice unacceptable,” read one headline, and “Obama a disgrace” shouted another.
The point of contention? The president’s record on issues related to abortion, the majority of which clash with the strict anti-abortion stance of the Catholic Church. An online petition has sprung up urging people to voice their complaints to Father John Jenkins, president of the university. 
 
Jenkins said in an interview with the student paper Monday that while there are clear differences between the president and the Catholic church on some issues (abortion and embryonic stem cell research), it was a great honor to have the president accept the university’s offer and that he had no plans to rescind the offer.
 
A majority of the student body is enthusiastic about President Obama coming to speak -- he won the campus’ mock election 52.6% to 41.1% over Sen. John McCain -- but an active alumni base that skews more conservative than the increasingly liberal campus has been vocal about the selection of the commencement speaker.  
 
“Notre Dame students generally come from conservative backgrounds,” said Mike Laskey, a recent Notre Dame graduate who wrote on the subject of ideological shifts among the student body in his position as executive director of Scholastic, Notre Dame’s campus magazine. “A good college education anywhere introduces new ways of looking at the world and shakes up students' perspectives. Because students come in conservative but not strongly formed, it makes sense that many experience an ideological shift to the left.” 
 
The president’s decision to speak at Notre Dame also highlights the growing importance of northern Indiana in national politics. In the 2004 election, former President George W. Bush defeated Sen. John Kerry by two points in St. Joseph’s County (where Notre Dame is located).
 
In 2008, Obama defeated McCain by 17 points, helping the Hoosier State go blue for the first time since 1968. *** Correction *** Democrats last won Indiana in 1964.
 
When President Obama wanted to hold a town hall on the economy to discuss his stimulus package, he visited Elkhart, an Indiana town 15 miles from the Fightin’ Irish campus. 
 
In March 2005, President George W. Bush began a tour to garner support for his social security privatization plan by stopping in at the Joyce Center, the on-campus arena where Notre Dame graduations are held. President Obama will be continuing the tradition of five other sitting presidents to speak at the Notre Dame commencement ceremony, following Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. Reagan’s speech in May 1981 was his first public appearance after a March assassination attempt, while President George W. Bush gave his first commencement address as president in 2001.

"We are not ignoring the critical issue of the protection of life,” Jenkins told campus paper. “On the contrary, we invited him, because we care so much about those issues, and we hope … for this to be the basis of an engagement with him."

Despite the protests by some, it's worth pointing out that Obama won Catholics 54%-45% in the 2008 general election. Bush won them, 52%-47%, in 2004 over Kerry, a Catholic.

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"we hope...for this to be the basis of an engagement with him"-what a joke.  I wish any Notre Dame faculty or student to try to ask the One a question about his pro-abortion stance.  I think you'll get the same stare down he gave a Politico reporter when asked about lobbyists in his Cabinet.  Maybe he should replace his bust of Lincoln (another tyrant) with a statue of a fetus with a needle in its head to commemorate his progressive views.
The disgust I felt when I read of the invitation prompted me to send Fr. Jenkins a strong letter of dissent with a copy of my 1972 Masters Degree cut into pieces. Fr, Jenkins has raiswed the meaning of political correctness to new hights.
First Notre Dame gets in bed with NBC; now it's Obama. Yet another reason to root for the USC Trojans.  Fight On, Trojans!  Beat the Irish!
It is a shame that the Catholic universities give voice and stature to legislators who have sold out to the radical pro abortion adjenda. Like obama, jenkins actions speak much louder that his words. What God has hidden from the rich and powerful he has revealed to his little ones.
Doug
Time for Jenkins to have a talk with Dr. Byker of Calvin College and compare notes. There was a dust up there when President GW Bush spoke at commencement a few years ago. Good luck with that, Padre.
Funny i don't remember ND inviting Pres. Bush to speak at a commencement speech. Lets consider the fact that most of the faculty is liberal,and admittedly most of the students come from a conservitive home. So this is just one more venue of indoctrination for your sons and daughters. When they finally graduate,they'll come back home ,for the holidays and you'll hardly recognize them anymore.   Catholic Instititution???????
Catholics need to make up their mind whether they follow the Pope or not or the abortion issue. And if they don't, they aren't Catholic. I believe another way to say it is to "crap or get off the toilet".
I don't know about you, but I sent a protest letter to the president of Notre Dame, signed a petition for Fr. Junkins to rescind his offer and asked the Vatican "Pro-Life" congregation to take some action against their renegade priest.
The "ideological shift to the left" noted by Mr. Laskey is directly related to ideological decisions made at Notre Dame in recent decades.  The university made the choice to compete with "peer institutions" such as Stanford and the Ivys.  The result has been professors and departments that do not necessarily support the Catholic tradition upon which the university was founded.

Notre Dame is therefore risking becoming increasingly indistinguishable from other non-Catholic universities (see also, Georgetown), with its Catholicism relegated to a peculiarity allowed into the forefront when "convenient."

Thankfully this is not an inevitable fate.  There is a strong Catholic minority on campus hoping, praying, and working for Notre Dame to claim is pride of place in Catholic higher education.  The scandal of our most radically pro-abortion president invited to this esteemed platform only sharpens the present situation and makes Notre Dame's choices for the future more apparent.

Be Catholic.  Let this distinctiveness show.  Hire for mission.  Maintain your identity or scrap the notion of being the premiere "Catholic" university.
I'm still absolutely stunned that Obama so decisively won the Catholic vote during this past presidential election.  Obama is a man whose openly anti-Christian that you simply have to not be paying attention to notice.  This is a man who openly states that he doesn't want to "punish" his daughters with a child if they become pregnant.  What the hell kind of message is that sending to your kids!  As a father, he's a disgrace.  In addition, he's perfectly fine with killing a live child that completely out of the mother's woumb.  HOW IS THIS NOT INFANTICIDE?!?!  And you people wonder why real Catholics are upset that this man is coming to Notre Dame to speak....good grief!
i live near ND.
believe me when I tell you that it is a VERY liberal school. yes, there are a few vocal conservatives around, but overall, it is solid obama territory, which is a crying shame for a christian school. the school is christian in name only, though.
This man goes against the very basics of protection of human life.  He voted against the "Born Alive Infant Protection Act" four times which would require medical help to survivors of late term abortions.  He has called abortion survivors "temporarily alive" and unborn babies are "non-viable fetuses".  The determination of the begining of life is "above his pay grade".  Do you really want to have this man pushing his anti-life agenda on the sacred ground of Notre Dame?


 

Top 10……Poverty in Our Major Cities

 

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level

1. Detroit , MI
32.5%

2. Buffalo , NY
29.9%

3. Cincinnati , OH
27.8%

4. Cleveland , OH
27.0%

5. Miami , FL
26.9%

5. St. Louis , MO
26.8%

7. El Paso , TX
26.4%

8. Milwaukee , WI
26.2%

9. Philadelph ia , PA
25.1%

10. Newark , NJ
24.2%


U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?


   
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;  
 

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati , OH (3rd)....since 1984;

Cleveland , OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami , FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis , MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee , WI (8th)..since 1908;

Philadelphia , PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark , NJ (10th)....since 1907.


Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'


It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats---yet they are still .....................
POOR





"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.  You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.  You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.  You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.  You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.  You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.  You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln

..........................and you, Mr. Obama, are no Abe Lincoln
I have no problem with ND inviting him.  I just hope they don't suppress criticism of his absolutist views on abortion, which would eliminate any restrictions whatsoever, including allowing medical practitioners to opt out on moral grounds.  His position on this and other issues is untenable and unacceptable for Catholics, he won them for one reason - the economy.
This is a total disgrace for Notre Dame and the Catholic Church. Obama is in favor of ABORTION and this is a grave sin in the eyes of the Catholic Church and Notre Dame is Catholic or at least it was until this decision to host this terrible person who is using tax dollars to fund abortion all over the world. Incidentally he is also bringing our country to ruin.
Everyone at the commencement should turn their backs on the President as he speaks. Either that or throw shoes.
While everyone it entitled to their own views, Catholics need to speak up to let Father Jenkins that it is NOT acceptable to honor a person that holds such an opposing view to the Church's.  A petition is being prepared at the web site, notredamescandal. It already has over 40,000 signatures Please let your voice be heard.
there are a lot of priests making their way to hell by their silence, or worse, acceptance of laws against the teachings of the catholic church. the life of each human being is sacred to catholic believers. the priest's comment about hoping for dialogue with someone full of zeal for the destruction of unborn babies (or voting for a law allowing those who survive abortions to be left on a metal cart to die in an abortion clinic) is way beyond any true catholic's acceptable opinion-especially a priest. it is a mortal sin.  sorry, you obama voters.  go to confession-tomorrow
Has anybody thought what Christ might be saying at the spinless position of catholics against obama and  the abortion and stem research promoters?
This article erroneously refers to John Kerry as a Catholic.  You cannot be a Catholic and support abortion.  Kerry and Nancy Pelosi should be excommunicated.

Catholics were misled into voting for Obama.  This error can be undone in the 2010 Congressional Elections.
Benedict needs to clamp down on Jenkins.  What an embarrassment -- the most anti-live anti-catholic president speaking at the our premier university.
Why would the liberal church have a problem with Obama? They support him on Illegals, gun control and everything but abortion!  I'm tired of the church taking sides on issues like violating immigration laws and expecting everybody to fall in line with their laws.  When I went to Catholic school we were reminded to obey all laws, church and state!
From now on, they need to be referred to as "Notre Shame" University!

Send your kids to the Franciscan University of Steubenville if you don't want their heads filled with Liberal, Marxist, Anti-Catholic, Anti-Pope, Anti-Magisterium Propoganda for four years!
Yes and many would have considered it a great honor to have Hitler speak at their institutions when he was the leader of Germany. As always, it's a question of principles. Ask Fr. Jenkins to get some.
The "priest" that runs Notre Dame needs to remember that he is the head of a Roman Catholic University, and it is that one of the school's primary responsibilities to articulate and deliver Catholic teaching to its student body.  It should be a greater honor to uphold the teaching of Christ than to host a sitting president.  But, perhaps teaching the tenets of one's faith is not as hip as rubbing elbows with Mr. Obama.
No pro-abortion supporter--like Obama--should ever, ever, EVER BE INVITED TO SPEAK AT A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY NAMED FOR OUR LADY!
Notre Dame lost it's Catholic identity years ago. Dissenters and liberal heretics. The majority of the teachers are not even Catholic. Obama will be quite welcome.
ND should allow Obama to speak as they do and have done with other politicans and Presidents. Bush supported death penalty, which is against Catholic doctrine- though I grant I'm not a Papal scholar but now it is not as "against" Catholic doctrine as abortion at least traditionally. But still, John McCain was divorced and has had, alledgedly, other issues which are against traditional Catholic doctrines. So just because someone is pro-Abortion or has links to Muslim beliefs at some point in his life shouldn't be barred from addressing the students. Difference of opinion are good as long as they are recognized.
The conservatives at Notre Dame ought to stick to teaching and learning and leave the decision to have President Obama speak at the commencement in the same manner as the previous Presidents have.
The reason that a majority of Catholics voted for Obama is that a majority of Catholics don't have a clue what the Catholic Church teaches, or if they do, they arrogantly ignore it. The Catholic Church is not a democracy, it is theologically established by Jesus Christ, according to precepts laid down by Jesus Christ, and handed down through the ages through the vicars of Jesus Christ. If you believe you have a better idea of the doctrines of the Church than the Catechism of the Catholic Church, or prefer to make up your own definitions of Catholic beliefs, it's probably time for you to leave the Church. Abortion flies straight in the face of Thou Shall Not Kill. Moral equivocating that capital punishment (4995 exectutions in the U.S. since 1930), or deaths in war (1.2 million in every war fought since the Revolution) pale in number to the 50,000,000 million abortions since 1973. Further moral equivocations concerning executions due to breaking established laws, and death incurred in the defense of our country, are NOT the equivalent of murdering 50,000,000 defenseless, and innocent babies in what should be the safest place on earth. Obama's support of abortion, and opposition to the Infant Protection Act, place him in stark opposition to the Catholic position on life. He should not be invited to spread his duplicity at Notre Dame.
"...we invited him, because we care so much about those issues, and we hope … for this to be the basis of an engagement with him."

What a joke. A man with a voting record such as his will never be "engaged" on the issue of abortion. SHAMEFUL!
I love the way Catholics (I was one) pick and choose what they want to believe in.  If it isn't convenient, then ignore it.
"A good college education anywhere introduces new ways of looking at the world and shakes up students' perspectives". So in other words introduce immorality to the moral, pornagraphy to the pure of heart, deceit to the honest, convenience for the sacrifice of a soul. Funny, I thought it was Father Jenkins job to protect the souls of those entrusted to him, not show his support for the destruction of souls.
I, too, am appalled at the choice of Obama for the commencement address at the most famous Catholic university in the U.S.! And, to elaborate on his abortion stance, he also approves of the most heinous forms of baby-killing - live-birth abortion, as well as allowing a living baby to die of neglect in a metal pan. I'm ashamed of my years of support and pride in Notre Dame (Latin for Our Lady - who is no doubt sorrowful over this decision). Just one more so-called Catholic institution rolling over for left-wing, socialist Democrats! Shame on Fr. Jenkins! I wonder if the provincial of the Holy Cross Fathers agrees.  If so, our faith is in the wrong hands!
It isn't just his position on abortion, it is what he thinks of human life. He condones infanticide, denying treatment to infants who SURVIVE A BOTCHED ABORTION.  Ask the Chicago nurse, who sat in a linen closet with such an infant until he died. Also,He is going to take benefits from seniors and deny treatment.  

I think Notre Dame needs to retract the invitation.
There are many who call themselves Catholic but they are not when they think they know better than the Church and God.  They commit the same folly as Adam and Eve. They believe they can pick and chose tenets and doctrines.  They will ultimately answer for their actions and their inactions.
obama is a fialure, this man is leading us to a one world non religious socialt nation
As a Catholic, it is extremely distressing to have a pro-abortion politician be honored as graduation speaker at a Catholic University. I will never feel the same about the School.
This is a joke right.
It's good to see Notre Dame putting publicity above Godliness.

As for the students skewing left, as the saying goes: If you're 21 and not a liberal, it means you don't have a heart. If you're 41 and not a conservative, it means you don't have a brain.

Wait until these kids start working 40+ hours a week, start paying their mortages, and begin trying to save money for their kids college funds and then ask them if they like socialism.
I remind the desenters that some students stood with their back facing President G.H.W. Bush when he gave the commencement so I think you all should return the favor.  I would love to see a picture with 40% of the seniors giving him their back!!
The President of Notre Dame feels inviting Obama to speak at the commencement might be a way of engaging the President on the subject of abortion - ridiculous.   Barack Obama's feelings about abortion are very clear and no amount of engagement with any Catholic group or institution is going to change that.  Barack Obama should not speak at Notre Dame nor should Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John Kerry, any of the Kennedys, etc. etc.  This is indeed a bad choice - Catholics everywhere should be upset.
Your article outlining the relative popularity of Mr. Obama is utterly moronic. Catholic morality is not about popularity. As a Catholic institution, Notre Dame is obligated to the advancement of truth, not the encouragement of highly popular moral degradation.

Mr. Obama is the single biggest proponent of the culture of death that America has ever seen, and he intends that world view for America and for our foreign policy.

The subterfuge of "exposing our students to differing opinions" is simply a way of soft peddling monstrous lies under the erroneously named banner of "liberal" education.

The American episcopate needs to step in and forcefully correct Father Jenkins as a  spiritual work of mercy, that being to inform the ignorant, for the sake of his eternal soul.
Good Catholics should support Obama!  Enough of the abortion nonsense.  What about issues surrounding poverty, race, the environment, and human welfare?  Hands down, Obama should be embraced for bringing people together and uniting this country.  Good for you, Notre Dame!
Father Jenkins you are ignoring the issues of life!
Catholics, schizoid to the core (and that includes me), love President Obama.

Not all Catholics, but lots and lots of them--and this includes hundreds of bishops!

The key issue is the overall quality of life in terms of fair taxation--especially that.  

As a practicing Catholic, I admire Obama's way of using his huge megaphone to "do good."

He wants to help people, and he's very generous with his time, very self-giving--a virtue Catholics appreciate.  
I know some Good Catholics....not that there's anything wrong with that.  But it seems to me the country is changing and the "Old Alumni" of Notre Dame should step aside with their views.  Voice them, advise them  - yes, but pressure them, NO!  They're fortunate to be hearing President Obama speak at their graduation ceremonies.  
Maybe he can talk about how he is dismantling Bush's Faith Based Initiative by requiring Catholic and other faith services to hire atheist in order to qualify for funding.
DEPLORABLE!
Obama won Catholics 54%-45% in the 2008 general election?  Then it is clear that Catholics favor abortion by a 9% majority.  I would remind the 9% of Catholics that voted for Obama that abortion takes an innocent human life.  Obama favors death over life, no matter how elegantly he and his teleprompter put it.  Father Jenkins had better decide whether he supports life for unborn children, or whether he supports killing them.  If he pals around with the likes of Obama, he had better question his motives.  There is no middle ground on this issue.  "If you sup with the Devil, bring a long spoon."


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