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Hillary's unscheduled chat with Zardari

Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:39 AM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Andrea Mitchell and Libby Leist
Secretary of State Clinton and envoy Richard Holbrooke went to the Willard Hotel in DC this morning for an hour-long private meeting with Pakistan President Zardari and his ambassador to the U.S.

Their breakfast was not announced publicly -- and it wasn't on her schedule. They have been pressing Zardari hard to do more to fight the Taliban.

Clinton then returned to the State Department, where she met with Afghan President Karzai as scheduled.

Now she's meeting with both Karzai and Zardari together, also as scheduled.

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Can we drop the pretense that Hillary is really the Secretary of State?  We all know it's Richard Holbrooke and Hillary is merely his aide-de-camp.
She is the Secretary Of State. Should they have announced the breakfast. You guys are entirely too nosey. Perhaps important security issues regarding our troops needed discussing. The media shouldn't have access to everything.
I sure hope that Hillary read Zardari and Karzai the riot act in getting their acts together to get rid of the Taliban and al-Qaeda in their countries.  Must be tough for these Muslim male chauvinist pigs to have to deal with a powerful woman like Hillary.

What an idiot and liar Magic Underwear Romney is to accuse the Democrats of being Monarchists.  Yeah this from a flake who rode his governor daddy's coattails into becoming governor.  How about the bushwhacker family where we had the misfortune of being ruled by a deadbeat dad who stopped an SEC investigation into his exbezzling son so that he could be followed by his evil wicked son clueless george.  It's the repugnant ones who are the party of monarchy, all for the rich and greedy while stealing from the poor and needy.

Hey B, La - nice to see we do have something in common after all.  I'll toke to that!

Legalize Marijuana!
This just in Hillary also stopped by the local Starbucks to order a latte and use the restroom. Is this the news?
Hey B, La - nice to see we do have something in common after all.  I'll toke to that!

Legalize Marijuana!
Eric, Salinas, CA (Sent Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:52 AM)

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Good post!!!!!
SoS in name only (Sent Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:48 AM)
Can we drop the pretense that Hillary is really the Secretary of State?  We all know it's Richard Holbrooke and Hillary is merely his aide-de-camp.
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SoS in name only
How do you that? More noise is coming from the peanut gallery.


no joe, no bo, nj: '...Meanwhile, al queda and the taliban move closer to Islamabad, closer to controlling Pakistan's nuclear weapons, and we cut funding for our missile defense shield....'


There was a pretty good sci-fi movie a few years back, Robocop
I remember a line in it: 'Who cares if it works, we're selling it to the Military'

Star Wars is something like that
It doesn't work
jojo, can you say: 'boondoggle' ?
(sure you can, 'boondoggle')
It's kind of like the F-22, it doesn't work or have a mission except to line the pockets of military contractors



'...Even if the obama worshippers on this site are right, and control does not mean that bin  Laden's minions can operate these weapons immediately, it is only a question of time before they attain that knowledge.  Do we just wait for the bombs to drop on NYC, Chicago, or La?...'

Now, repeat after me: 'distraction'
Why not see how we can assist Pakistan instead ?
Espcecilly since Star Wars is a EXPENSIVE FAILURE  ?

Now, can you say: 'Deficit' ?
You want to balance the budget (in a recession!?!)
Yet, you want to SQUANDER TAX DOLLARS on unworkable weapons

Let's compromise, INVADE HAITI !!
We could give out TONS OF MEDALS !!
We could shoot up a bunch of civilians......

'...It just goes to show you that 47% of the electorate was right-Obama does not have the wisdom or the experience to do this job.  He's out of his depth, folks, and we are in danger as a result...'

You've just been spoiled by the past 8 years of 'geopolitical magic' !!
You want someone 'Masterful' like Dick Cheney (or Donnie Rumsfeld)
Sorry, they've gone into hiding to avoid indictment for international crimes

Wasn't Condi Rice Bush's Secretary of State? She was his scape goat. I can call it another word but thats personal and ugly. Those that wish to add their pesemistic overtures to Hillary's position need to remember "what used to represent our nation and really did nothing.

She didn't even bother to organize that branch of Government. The people that our tax dollars paid for never had the opportunity to even do their jobs during her tenure.
You mean the White House might actually do something WITHOUT consulting the media?  Shocking.  Get over it, guys.  They really are trying to run this country and get the world more stable.  Get out of the way and let them do their job.

Let's hope for all of our sakes that these meetings are a start to improving relations with Pakistan.  That country is scary.  With its nukes, extremists and wars on both sides, this is the country to watch closely.  We need them on our side...
Pulled one over on the media.  Good, sometimes the best meetings are the ones which aren't pre-announced.

The world's most dangerous regional problems can't be solved by one person alone.  SOS Clinton can't be everywhere at once.  It was very smart of Pres Obama to name Holbrooke and Mitchell to specific regions because with the entire world agenda, Clinton would not have the necessary time to dedicate solely to one area.  These regions are extremely volatile and require constant attention to move even slightly forward.
SoS in name only - I suspect you're right, but then the same could be said of a lot of cabinet officials in a lot of administrations. They're selected for politics or to repay personal debts, and often given undersecretaries who can take care of them.
Wow, actual diplomacy going on. How rare it has been for some time. The cowboy shoot first and ask questions if you get around to it diplomacy is a thing of the past, thank God. I don't expect much in the beginning dialogs but just preliminary meetings can be helpful in setting the groundwork for the more productive meetings later on. Just like in business, sales aren't always made on the first meeting. Decisions aren't always made after only one meeting. One of the players may not be in office after August but setting the stage for dealing with others in his government and country in general is a step in the right direction. Snubbing those who don't agree with us on every itty bitty issue is stupid and dangerous. I am so glad that even if we agree to disagree that eventually common ground will be found and some real progress can be made in the defeat of The Taliban and Al Quaida as well as other radical Muslim extremists.
I was a Hillary supporter who ultimately voted Obama, but since she lost, I wish she stayed as my NY Senator...I think she could've done more for Obama's policies in the Senate, then simply regurgitating his foreign policy points as Sec of State. I think going from NY Senator to Sec of State was a demotion.
Very well written opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today by Sens. McCain and Graham concerning enemy combatants.  They laid the issue out very nicely and made some recommendations.

The Dems have been brilliant at labeling the GOP the party of NO.  It's all BS of course, since the GOP is doing nothing different than the Dems did when they were out of power.  Sadly, the way Washington works is that the minority can rarely propose legislation...they can only stop legislation.  And for those on the left who continually want the Dems to change rules so that they only require 50 Senate votes and cite the "nuclear option" that the GOP considered...the GOP thought about it, but NEVER DID IT.  Amazing how both parties are so hypocritical.  When the GOP had Congress, filibusters were bad in the GOP's eyes, but were sacred to the Dems.  NOw that the Dems are in power, they have reversed their views.  Truly sad.
Hillary not Secretary of State? I'm sure that is information she would like to have. Perhaps you should call her up and tell her!
Get a grip! You had nothing real to say so you had to come up that crap. You should work for Fox news!
SHE IS OBVIOUSLY TELLING HIM WHAT TO SAY OR NOT TO SAY TO OUR PRESS. ---

FUNNY HOW OBAMA IS USING THE EXACT SAME TACTICS & STRATEGIES AS BUSH DID ...
BUT OBAMA IS CONVINCING THE PEOPLE THAT IT IS DIFFERENT.

YESTERDAY 'OBAMA OBJECTED' TO CONGRESS WANTING TO SET "BENCHMARKS' ON THE PROGRESS TO BE MADE IN AFGHANISTAN & PAKISTAN. ---
YET THIS WAS A CHIEF CRITICISM BY HIM OF BUSH.

"YOU CAN FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE, SOME OF THE TIME ..."
Obama and clinton continue to kill innocent women and children in Afganistan
Bring these War Criminals to Justice!!!!! These people did nothing to us..yet Obama and Clinton continue to have them killed
To the Commenter SoS....have you seen Hillary's poll numbers?  She is doing just great, and Thank God she is....
It's my feeling Hillary has found her nitch.  She's a very intelligent, dignified woman.  I enjoy watching her shine in this position, and she's not dragging Bill along with her!
Msierra, you say that the Star Wars system is a failure. Have you seen the test?

First, the "Star Wars" system was the laser device meant to be in orbit. And I can tell you that the laser portion was working. I have seen some of the actual reports. The ground based test melted a tank in about 3 seconds. This system was the issue with the USSR that sparked the de-military space agreement.

The new system is ground and sea based missiles. So technically, this is not the Star Wars system, nor does it violate our agreement. The new system is not complete, and has had both successes and failures. This system is workable, and can be efficient use of dollars. If they can get it to top working condition, it was allow us to reduce military spending elsewhere.

It is in the President's power to cut this project, but that doesn't make it a "expensive failure". The failure is not unsurmountable technical issues, but giving in to political pressure.
ROTFLMAO. The Dems are back to fighting the Obama - Hillary war!  And, you say the repubs can't get along.
Hillary is the consumate soldier for the country and the party.  Regurgitate Obama's words?  How about execute his plan...and that is what she is supposed to do.  

Hillary was my first choice for President but I have to say that Obama is doing a fantastic job and is adept at making the best use of the people around him....and quite possibly is a far better person for the job at this time.



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