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Obama agenda: Oh, those cuts

Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:49 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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It's bad enough the administration was taking heat about whether $17 billion is a big budget cut or not. Now, it appears a bunch of Congressional Democrats might not even agree to those cuts. 

Notes the Washington Post's Balz: "To date, the president's rhetoric about fiscal discipline exceeds his results. He has long said he would require his team to scrub the budget "line by line" for savings. Many of the reductions, while worthy, represent small change."

USA Today is gloomy on the long-term economy, writing, “Now, that esoteric revision is blossoming into a major economic shift that will affect living standards for years. Whatever other costs are borne as a consequence of the financial crisis, the U.S. economy appears doomed to an enduring episode of unimpressive growth.”

USA Today: “As unemployment soars, a combination of cash incentives and aggressive recruiting has left the Army National Guard with a surplus of soldiers, and now it plans to trim its force, according to government documents and interviews with Guard officials.” 

Cold War Kids: “In an Obama administration characterized by youth, they are a Cold War throwback, the aging arms-control experts who haggled with Soviet officials over nuclear weapons and testing. Suddenly, arms control is back,” the Washington Post writes.

In February, Bobby Jindal’s words got him into trouble with Alaskan geologists when he mocked budget provisions for “volcano monitoring.” Could Obama’s budget cuts cause him similar grief with the NYPD? The New York Post writes, “An NYPD program designed to protect the city from nuclear threats could lose funding if cuts proposed by the Obama administration go through....If the budget ax falls, plans to put detection devices on bridges and in tunnels around the city, and to set up a command post in lower Manhattan, may be scrapped.”

The New York Daily News also has the story: “NYPD officials have found some troubling fine print in President Obama’s proposed budget.” 

Also on the budget, USA Today reports, “Federal programs deemed ineffective by President Obama and targeted for elimination in his proposed budget include five that stand to get about $500 million in economic stimulus funds, documents show.”

The Washington Times notes something we've been harping on for a few weeks: the president has decided to punt any new immigration reform and the Times notes he's embracing an "enforcement first" approach. "Having already backed off his pledge to have an immigration bill this year, Mr. Obama boosted his commitment to enforcement in the budget released Thursday. The spending blueprint calls for extra money to build an employee-verification system and to pay for more personnel and equipment to patrol the border. This security-first stance is not unlike that of President George W. Bush, Bush Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, who said their immigration bill failed in 2007 because voters didn't trust the government to be serious about enforcement." 

On Abortion: The President tried to split the difference, using his budget to placate pro-choice advocates with a decision to allow the District of Columbia to use taxpayer money to pay for abortions but he didn't lift an overall federal ban on using federal dollars for abortion.

We know the president likes to find the middle ground, but is there such thing on the abortion issue?

The Daily News also took note that the Spitzers have made their first post-scandal debut: “Looking for all the world like nothing ever happened, former Gov. Eliot Spitzer and wife Silda went out on the town together Thursday night for the first time publicly since his involvement in a prostitution ring forced him to resign last year.” 

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USA Today? Who died and made them Paul Krugman? They are not saying anything that the President hasn't already told us. Yep, the economy is bad, it's gonna be bad for a while.

USA Today left out one other thing.....We Will Survive This. The bitter lessons that we learn will hopefully make this nation better and will cause us to not make the same mistakes twice.
Should gay boy Perez Hilton be served with a hate crime for his continual attacks on Miss California, who was almost apologetic in her answer to a fixed question that revealed she was for "traditional marriage?

Obama and Biden also are against gay marriage.

Hilton's continual low-life and disgusting attacks on the beauty queen must represent the entire gay community because no one from that cave has come to her defence. Donald Trump is a liar and the media, as usual, continue to prostitue themselves.

Maybe a citizen's arrest is in order.

It would be no different if someone attacked Hilton physically. He would call it a hate crime. And that's what he's doing to Miss California, over and over again with his endless sexual verbal attacks.

Arrest the pompous gay queen.
What tax cuts? Is Obie changing his mind ... again ... and pissing off his own party mates?

Another wrench thrown into the mysteriously vague and uncertain fantasy presidency known as Obieland, and done by his own hand. Or is this just more Barackababble?
[We know the president likes to find the middle ground, but is there such thing on the abortion issue?]
--There is lots of middle ground on the abortion issue.  Rape, defining when life begins (I like implantation, personally), eliminating late-term abortions (health reasons excluded), pro-adoption, instilling policies that reduce abortion.  Using federal dollars to fund abortions is not a middle ground or a compromise--simply outrageous from my viewpoint.
Obama should stop splitting the middle on abortion and allow federal funds to be used all over our country and not just DC.  Time for Barack to step up and show the socially conservative evangelical lunatic fringers that they can no longer tell women what they can do with their lives.

Those nuclear detection devices are a boondoggle that won't work and they should be axed.  More effort needs to be done overseas to ensure the extremists don't get nuclear materials for dirty bombs.  The detection devices give out too many false positive results which will waste a lot of taxpayer money chasing down dead ends.  Until the technology is proven to work reliably it should not be put into use.

Atleast Obama is trying to save money, so unlike his clueless spendthrift predecessor.

In Obama We Trust!
OBAMA IS THE MOST DIVISIVE PRESIDENT, EVER!

FROM DAY ONE, OBAMA HAS IGNORED THE CONCERNS OF 47% AMERICANS ---
47 OUT OF EVERY 100 -- AND THE OF 60 MILLION THE VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR THE REPUBLICAN! --- HOW MUCH MORE DIVISIVE COULD A PRESIDENT BE?

FROM THE START, OBAMA HAS TOLD EVERYONE THAT IT IS --- THE 'DEMOCRATS vs. THE REPUBLICANS' ---  "US vs. THEM" POLITICS  --- THE LIBERAL IDEAS vs. THE CONCERVATIVE IDEAS.

"I WON" SO THEREFORE NEARLY HALF OF THE VOTERS DON'T COUNT --- ONLY OBAMA COUNTS.

OBAMA HAS ASSERTED THAT HIS RATHER MODEST VICTORY HAS GIVEN HIM A 'MANDATE' TO RULE ONLY FROM THE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT VIEW --- AND TO IGNORE THE REPUBLICAN VIEW.

OBAMA'S DIVISIVE ATTITUDE HAS FILTERED DOWN TO DEMOCRAT & REPUBLICAN GRASSROOTS --- AND NOW THERE IS MORE POLARIZATION THAN EVER IN OUR COUNTRY.

IT DOESN'T TAKE A POLITICAL SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND THE DIVIDE THAT OBAMA HAS CREATED.

OBAMA IS INHERENTLY ARROGANT AND DISMISSIVE OF ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH HIM.

OBAMA HAS CREATED THE 'GREAT DIVIDE' AND THE DIVISIVENESS WILL CONTINUE FOR AS A LONG AS OBAMA IS PRESIDENT --- THE COUNTRY'S ONLY HOPE IS THE 2012 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

OBAMA HAS INTENTIONALLY DIVIDED OUR COUNTRY AS NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE!

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China and Japan, who lend America much of its debt spending, were waiting for the U.S. to show it can reign in its debt.  The proposed budget cuts represent less than one-half of 1% of a bloated budget.  The U.S. is a war factory, with 54% of its annual budget alloted to war making (so-called "defense spending") and has become a bully nation.  We may be broke, but we brag we have more aircraft carriers than any other nation.  We imagine and conger up wars and villains to keep the defense industry in business.  What we spend on defense robs from our future as Medicare and Social Security are $72 trillion under-funded.  
Let's face it, the big cuts are going to have to come in the entitlement programs:  Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.  The Federal Budget will be overwhelmed by these programs in the not too distant future.  If the people affected by the proposed cuts making up the 17 billion in savings can't accept the fact that the programs are not worth keeping, they will have a very hard time reconciling with the reality of the stark budget conditions we will face in the future!  It is time to be responsible and accept the fact that we can't have everything we want without any limit.
Sure lots of young people are joining the military. They know they won't be in any wars. More then likely they'll be used as some kind of weird Meals On Wheels program rather then having to fight anyone. Obama is making the military just another benefits program, just another thing to have as a social program. The people that join know they'll get premium benefits, a college education, and high pay for doing essentially nothing.
Nice to see the USA Today has figured things out. I think we'd settle for "unimpressive growth" right now vs. soaring unemployment numbers, which we currently have. The projected growth of the US is very similar to Obama. Both are unimpressive.
To call boast about $17 billion dollars in cuts from a $3.6 trillion dollar budget is just embarrasing. He is wasting our money and then trying to convince us of how us how much of a steward he is with our money. The American people are beginning to catch on: Obama's rhetoric does not add up to much more than pretty words. He is floundering.
To call boast about $17 billion dollars in cuts from a $3.6 trillion dollar budget is just embarrasing. He is wasting our money and then trying to convince us of how us how much of a steward he is with our money. The American people are beginning to catch on: Obama's rhetoric does not add up to much more than pretty words. He is floundering.
Not only are these cuts next to nothing compared to his $3.6T bloated budget, most of the cuts come at our expense from the defense budget which effects our national security. Typical democratic agenda, cut the defense budget which weakens our security.
Notes the Washington Post's Balz: "To date, the president's rhetoric about fiscal discipline exceeds his results. He has long said he would require his team to scrub the budget "line by line" for savings. Many of the reductions, while worthy, represent small change."

1. But it's change and small "change" add up to big dollars.

It's bad enough the administration was taking heat about whether $17 billion is a big budget cut or not. Now, it appears a bunch of Congressional Democrats might not even agree to those cuts.  

2. You can't please everyone and in any body of government or society for that matter, we won't all agree on the same thing.

USA Today is gloomy on the long-term economy, writing, “Now, that esoteric revision is blossoming into a major economic shift that will affect living standards for years.

3. They must have been given GOP talking points. You would think that a paper of this size would employ people that respect the intelligence of it's readers and MSNBC you should be ashamed of yourselves for printing this garbage. This is insulting.

USA Today: “As unemployment soars, a combination of cash incentives and aggressive recruiting has left the Army National Guard with a surplus of soldiers, and now it plans to trim its force, according to government documents and interviews with Guard officials.”  

4. If they stop kicking people out because of their sexual preferences they wouldn't have this problem. What a self righteous Nation we are, when a great number of lawmakers and military higher ups are closet homosexuals. I have no respect for people that are ashamed of who and what they are. If you are shame then don't do it.

On Abortion: The President tried to split the difference, using his budget to placate pro-choice advocates with a decision to allow the District of Columbia to use taxpayer money to pay for abortions but he didn't lift an overall federal ban on using federal dollars for abortion.

5. Insurance companies shouldn't cover viagra and won't cover contraceptives. The federal government have no rigt invading our bedrooms and policing our bodies, that is the bottom line.  This is a none issue and really all the the GOP has in attempts to stir up "so called christians", that won't give a person a crust of bread if they needed it.

The Daily News also took note that the Spitzers have made their first post-scandal debut: “Looking for all the world like nothing ever happened, former Gov. Eliot Spitzer and wife Silda went out on the town together Thursday night for the first time publicly since his involvement in a prostitution ring forced him to resign last year.”

6. Didn't I just blog that his wife knew what she had? Most women know when they have unfaithful mates. We the public and the media to mind their own damn business, they creat gossip and sensationalize everything, even when it's no news...

. After all, they aren't any different than anyone else, after all, they are ordinary people.
Your notice says that all comments must be approved.  Did you really approve the gay-bashing post by "Fortunate Son"???  It includes derogatory name-calling ("gay boy") and disturbing calls for assaults ("citizens arrest") against a gay man: "Arrest the pompous gay queen."  Not to mention that this all has nothing to do with the story about tax cuts.  You need to do a better job of moderating comments -- allowing this kind of hate speech is not acceptable.
We only have unimpressive growth due to massive spending of the likes never before seen in this country. Obama "warning" us was only innoculation from what effects of his spending were going to do to the economy. And he's not even close to done yet, wait for the tax hikes and "green" economy to hit your wallets soon.
Both Republicans and Democrats talk a good talk about budget cuts. But when push comes to shove, neither side has the guts to make any meaningful cuts because both are beholden to special interest groups.
Fortunate Son:

I will have to agree with you on this one. Hilton needs to stop being such a diva and leave the woman alone. Just becaue you have the means availible to attack someone that in reality actually voiced her "personal opinion" should not be scourged.

I really do think that she got the message. Now he's going overboard. Freedom of speech is what we all have.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't give you the right to plot their demise. It's time for him to pull the claws in before he brings further sesent to the gay community, we have enough narrow minds as it stands, we don't need more.
Obama never gave any specifics on how he would fix things when he was running.  He was elected on the "dream" not on the reality.  He has almost no experience, outside of using socialist theories to change Illinois schools.  Why are people surprised that he is doing nothing?  He is not going to get the budget cuts he wants; he will get a couple of billion that will not affect anything, and then will have to raise taxes on everyone to pay for the things he wants.  Welcome to the major leagues, Barack, hope your ready, or, in four years you will get sent back to the minors...
Obama seems smart enough to realize that if he can address the illegal immigration problem and make serious moves to cut wasteful spending then he'll take the fiscal conservative wind out of the Republican party sails. Fiscal conservatives have long felt betrayed by the GOP and if Obama succeeds at all in this attempt then it will be a death blow to an already battered Republican party. Very smart move.
"OBAMA'S AGENDA IS "DIVIDE & POLARIZE" The fact that you type in all caps is sufficient prooof you are an idiot, but the hysterical tripe you are pushing confirms it. Try putting Bush instead of Obama in your rant, and you would be a lot closer to the truth. Sorry that the hard-core 20 percent hates Obama, but don't call it divisivness just beacause you are too ignorant and pigheaded to see the truth.
BubbaRight (Sent Friday, May 08, 2009 11:01 AM)
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Facts, facts, facts. Don't let those bother you!

First, lets address your GOP talking line about the defense budget . . . President Obama has requested a 12.7% increase. And the budget is being guided by Robert Gates, who was appointed by a republican.

Okay, now for the concern about $17B being nothing. The FACT is, that almost 2/3 of the budget is mandatory (can't be changed without changing the laws - which the President doesn't do) and another 15+% is defense. So that makes roughly 75% of the budget untouchable. So now that $17B is about 2% of the discretionary budget.

It is also close to the total budget for NASA and more than the total budget for Department of Commerce, Department of Labor, Department of the Treasury, Department of the Interior, Environmental Protection Agency, Social Security Administration, National Science Foundation, Corps of Engineers, National Infrastructure Bank, Corporation for National and Community Service, Small Business Administration, or the General Services Administration.

So how about you and Gordon offer us some constructive real examples of exactly what you would cut and why it wouldn't have a negative impact on our country?
Pass the mortgage fraud bill and go after the pooled investors charging them with either conspiracy, aiding and abetting, or recieving stolen property (funds), then siege their assets and place them in tent cities; otherwise depression and budget cutting is the only option.
  "If something sucks in America, you go get your money back." Stan Marsh, South Park.  
Do you have any idea how much damage typing with your caps lock key on does to your credibility?
No matter the spin from Obama and the WH, this economy will oscillate in a downward direction for a while, possibly a decade and longer ala Japan, thanks to the fiscal policies implemented by Obama.  Throwing good money at the zombie banks is disgraceful and essentially seals our fate as it did Japans for a generation.  
The cuts are not really cuts at all. The money is being shifted from one pot to another.
Pass the mortgage fraud bill and go after the pooled investors charging them with either conspiracy, aiding and abetting, or recieving stolen property (funds), then siege their assets and place them in tent cities; otherwise depression and budget cutting is the only option.
  "If something sucks in America, you go get your money back." Stan Marsh, South Park.  
Holy Cow Divide and Polarize.  First are you aware 99.9% of people find writing in all caps to be rude?  It's the digital equivalent to screaming.  Second, were you alive a year ago?  Obama is at least reaching out to the wacko hate mongers on the far right, far more than you could say for Bush.  The President's policies have so far been moderate, he could be far more left leaning.

Fortunate Son- playing word games with people's names is pretty gay.
Those who feel Obama is divisive are clearly ignorant of history.  When Bush was elected (without a majority of the popular vote mind you) he clearly stated how he earned "political capital" and "intended to spend it" and from there took actions that a MAJORITY (by popular vote) of the nation disagreed with with no regard for them. Obama, however, has pledged to work with Republicans and already has made concessions worthy of note, when he in no way needed to given the Republican viewpoint of "political capital".

Give me a break and grow up people. You make yourselves look ridiculous.
40% of the programs Obama is proposing to cut were also proposed by Bush.  The Democratic controlled Congress didn't allow them to happen.  Bush also proposed $18 billion to be cut from the budget that Congress did not approve.  I think the public needs to start placing some of the economic problems this country faces on Congress.
After Bush hid all of the no-bid war costs for seven years, bankrupting us under our noses, we finally have a president that is giving us the real story about our "budget". What are we doing to him in response? Shooting at him of course.

Way to go conservatives! Now that Bush is safely parachuted out of the flaming spiraling wreck he created, you are now free to blame it all on the black fella. Maybe you should have asked Bush if we could afford two wars with tax cuts for the rich at the same time? Just a thought.

I also love that Obama is getting flack from the same people that the cuts are both too small, and they are too big. Let's go back to Bush, who knew nothing, told us nothing, and said everything would be ok as long as we trusted him as the 'decider'.
We are getting the nation we deserve: third rate and falling further.
OBAMA'S AGENDA IS "DIVIDE & POLARIZE"

Wow, what a diatribe.  You say "FROM DAY ONE, OBAMA HAS IGNORED THE CONCERNS OF 47% AMERICANS ---
47 OUT OF EVERY 100 -- AND THE OF 60 MILLION THE VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR THE REPUBLICAN! --- HOW MUCH MORE DIVISIVE COULD A PRESIDENT BE" but you offer no specifics to back up this claim.
You say "OBAMA HAS ASSERTED THAT HIS RATHER MODEST VICTORY HAS GIVEN HIM A 'MANDATE' TO RULE ONLY FROM THE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT VIEW --- AND TO IGNORE THE REPUBLICAN VIEW." but the talk about having a mandate I've found is coming from mostly Republicans, not Democrats.
Then you say "IT DOESN'T TAKE A POLITICAL SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND THE DIVIDE THAT OBAMA HAS CREATED." but the divide you speak about started long before President Obama even started running for President.
Your next comment, "OBAMA IS INHERENTLY ARROGANT AND DISMISSIVE OF ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH HIM." sounds more like you are talking about the Bush/Cheney years and they proved over their 8 year reign that they listened very little to opposing views and did only what "they" felt was right instead of trying to garner different ideas before making a decision.

What your post really says is that you were deeply upset that Obama won and you can't handle the fact that he won.  Like I said before, the divisiveness you refer to started after the 2000 election, when many (not me, but others) felt the election was "stolen" by GWB.  The country started coming together after 9/11 and President Bush could have rallied the country behind him by calling for everyone to work together to fight the common enemy (terrorists).  But he did not do that.  He started going after the terrorists, but then lost his way.  In 2003, he decided that perhaps the terrorists were on the run or that they didn't pose as serious a threat as they had in the past, so he changed course and invaded Iraq.  But guess what?  The Taliban regrouped (under Bush's term - to blame Obama as some are doing is totally irresponsible and flat out lying), they hid in Northern Pakistan, and now have gained a foothold in Pakistan.  All this while the Bush administration was sending $13 million a year to Pakistan for that country to use to build up it's troops so the Pakistani troops could effectively combat the Taliban.  But instead, Pakistan squandered that money, with Bush lending the money without any "conditions".  Which is, by the way, what GWB also did when the first Stimulus package was passed.
It's obvious you are angry with Obama, but you offer no justifiable reason (other than you "believe" he's dividing the country).  It's a poor argument at best.  President Obama has tried working with others in the Republican Party.  It's the Republican Party that does not want to work with President Obama, not the other way around.  And from your post, you WANT that divisiveness to continue, not stop.  And that, my friend, is no way to try to help our country.
Keep writing my friend, and many will figure out how utterly assinine your comments are.  Too bad you can't take responsibility for your comments and list your name and state like others do.  It's cowardice at its best.
The cuts are not really cuts at all. The money is being shifted from one pot to another.
Jim, Norfolk, VA (Sent Friday, May 08, 2009 11:40 AM)


It's actually worse then that. Obama is just proposing the cuts. Congress can, and probably will, ignore him. Knowing those goons in Congress, Obama's $17B proposed cut will turn into a $34B increase. And don't depend on Obama vetoing any bill that does so.
Do you have any idea how much damage typing with your caps lock key on does to your credibility?
Glenn Stowe (Sent Friday, May 08, 2009 11:39 AM)

Not to mention how much more bandwidth that takes up.
In reference to your comment to "split the difference" on reproductive health and rights, we (www.reprorights.org) are deeply disappointed with President Obama’s failure to strike government funding restrictions on abortion, particularly the Hyde Amendment, from his proposed budget for 2010. The budget does, however, propose defunding abstinence-only sex education and creating programs aimed at reducing teen pregnancy.

The Hyde Amendment bans federal funding for abortion in the Medicaid program  except under extremely limited circumstances.  The President’s budget abandons the millions of women who rely on Medicaid and other federal programs for health services, including federal employees and their spouses and dependents, women served by Indian Health Service, women in the Peace Corps and in federal prisons.  It appears to clear the way for the District of Columbia to use its public funds for abortion.

At a time in our nation’s history when Americans at every income level are losing their jobs and their health benefits, guaranteeing access to affordable, quality healthcare, including reproductive healthcare, is imperative.  For millions of women, federal programs are their only means of getting healthcare.  Abortion is the only medically necessary health service excluded from Medicaid coverage.  Failure to provide that service—a service that only women need—is discrimination.  

President Obama made clear during the election that he opposes the Hyde Amendment. And for good reason—over a third of women who rely on Medicaid and are seeking an abortion have been prevented from exercising their constitutional right to an abortion.  Hyde unjustly impedes women’s access to timely, quality healthcare and disproportionately harms those women who already face significant barriers to obtaining services.  Sound public health policy means protecting the wellbeing of all women.  

Okay...here is my theory on the Stock Market....what goes up must come down, and what goes down, well....it goes up, it just takes a little longer than America has the patience for.
It's such fun reading these posts and wondering why anyone, republican or democrat would expect immediate improvement in the economy.  It's not about promises made and kept; the protests from the right about excessive spending rings hollow after the huge, massive spending done by Bush and the GOP.  Nice try but it's hot air.  This is not an ordinary recession, we will have deficits and large ones.  As for USA Today, why would anyone think we would have skyrocking growth right now.  We came close to falling into another Great Depression, it will change America for sometime to come and economic growth will be slow.  After the Depression, Americans became the most productive on earth because they had learned the lessons of the crash.  It's not a bad thing if people start saving and planning for the future and stop buying every new gadget on credit cards even though the gadget they have works just fine.  Republicans have operated in a quick fix for years and democrats went along with them.  Pres Obama is focusing on a long-term future for the economy by changing energy, health care and improving education.  We've muddled along since the 80's and it's time we meet the global 21st century head on with innovative change.  Our future can be strong if we decide to look beyond today and this year.

One additional middle ground on abortion--in addition to abstinence, start teaching real sex education and pregnancy prevention to our children again along with instilling a responsible sense of what being a parent means; provide birth control to low-income families.

As someone said yesterday, the GOP ranted about some $7 billion in "pork barrel" projects in the budget, yet $17 billion is nothing!  An added thought, if Pres Obama cuts too much from the budget, it will mean lost jobs and impact the already precarious economy.  There will be more cuts in the out years, for now, $17 billion is a good, solid start.  Personally, I found the GOP whining and the media fixation on it's only one-half of one percent humerous.  What cuts besides a total spending freeze has the GOP suggested--tax cuts for the wealthy, cut regulation, spend less money; Hooverites, we've been there and no thanks.
Anita, Birmingham, alabama

So you don't want the gov to control your bedroom or your body but it is ok if they steal money from me to use for your cause.  Most abortions are elective.  So this also means you advocate using gov funds for breast enhancement.
I guess I got moderated?  My main points again were, Divide and Polarize, 99.9% of people find writing in all caps rude, it's the equivalent of digital screaming.  Also, are you aware that George Bush was the president just last year?  The only people he gave a ^%$# about were the hard core religious conservatives.  At least Obama is reaching out to everyone, just because the nuts don't want anything to do with him doesn't make him the one doing the dividing.
Fortunate son - your derrogatory comments towards gay people is funny considering all the word games you play with people's names.
BubbaRight
Typical democratic agenda, cut the defense budget which weakens our security.

Did you even bother to look at the specifics of things being cut that happened to be in the defense bucket? One is a long range navigation system that is obsolete because of GPS. Why should we spend money on something that is obsolete? Having it does not help our national security at all.

As Chris, IL already pointed out, the defense budget is going up not down with the upcoming budget. Your 'typical democratic agenda, cut the defense budget' GOP talking point is bogus once you check the facts.
Chris - IL

You are another one wearing Obama colored glasses.  I would be happy with the 17 bill if it were actually cuts, but it is just transfers not cuts.  In his statement yesterday he stated himself that these "cuts" would be enough to pay for the other programs that he has expanded.  So you tell me how this 17 bill is a "cut" when it is still being spent and I will be happy to agree with even you and to be satisfied with the amount.
Nissan just unveiled it's new electric car that gets over 300 miles, before recharging. In my opinion the body styling looks great and it is a car that I would consider buying.

All right General Motors and Chrysler, what can you counter offer us with? The new Volt doesn't hold a candel to this baby. Get busy!

This is what the President was talking about that the media critized his comments about. He's right again, with is a good looking over 300 MPG vehicle.
bill sardi, san dimas, ca

Where do you think most defense spending goes?  Do you think the military builds there own equipment?  Makes their own clothes?  Etc.etc.?  This money goes to civilian government contractors who make tanks, trucks, uniforms, hats, gloves, guns, ammunition, communication devises, maintains the lawns of bases, services and refurbishes vehicles, and the list goes on and on.  These are all jobs that American taxpayers hold and are expanded and made better through military spending.  This doesn't even account for the soldiers pay or the overseas contractors who send their paychecks back home. So apparently you are for sending 400,000 or 500,000 people to the unemployment line.  You don't think the people have taken enough of a hit I guess.  Just go ask some of these now ghost towns that had their military bases closed.  Ask some of those people that depended on that revenue what they think of military spending.  Anniston, AL would be a good starting place.
Jacking the budget up 25% and cutting back back a 1/2% is now called cutting the budget.  The propaganda is so ridiculus, I can't believe this is really going on.
   Chris from IL:
You state that the 17 biillion is greater than a whole list of Govt. agencies.  You listed the Social Security Administration as one.  I checked, their operating budget is 675 BILLION a year!  Talk about facts?
I hopes this reaches every person who has been following see the Republicans are still playing the mind game,see at first all they said was President Obama is doing to much and now most of the things  he is tackling are seeing some light they are adding more.The problem is he already had agenda coming in and had the appropriate staff to help him and the Houses to do what good for the American people now some topics can wait or be looked at more closely,yet he has tried his best to have a say on Abortion and was clear enough but on the gay Marriage what the real agenda here see it is confusing not to affend those who are interested but plain and simple do people want all of America Gay and displaying affection openly like a man and woman or are jsut wanting the benfit's of a married coulpe of opposite sexes, well fine the benfits of life partners sounds good but their are areas we have not considered for some problems can arise from some it for people do get bolder when a wanting comes in a fashion of coming out like the pursuit of the same sex that might not want to be bothered by the lure and might get to an offensive state well even the the thought might bother some(open affection in public areas) some people might not want their kids to be exposed to such a confidence display of culture, which is not a standard of morals they want their kids to  grow up oppressed under  and might have morals or standards which they feel like they have a right too not condone such act or scenary so this  is complex yet since this problem has been on the table before him think about it more before we rush in. Here is a hint of the thing's that was on the table the Economy,Health Care,Immigration and the pursuit of Terroist so yes leave it at the State level for all of America doesn't think the same way as some polls show but if the Goal is to make most or not if all America By Sexual or openly Gay somethings are better off  private oh yeh Good Job So FAr MR.President we are with you and are praying not only for you but with you other than that The GOP"S will one DAy say those magic words GOOD JOB MR. PRESIDENT SIR.
Let's face it, the big cuts are going to have to come in the entitlement programs:  Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.  The Federal Budget will be overwhelmed by these programs in the not too distant future.  If the people affected by the proposed cuts making up the 17 billion in savings can't accept the fact that the programs are not worth keeping, they will have a very hard time reconciling with the reality of the stark budget conditions we will face in the future!  It is time to be responsible and accept the fact that we can't have everything we want without any limit.
William Parkhurst, Hyattsville, MD (Sent Friday, May 08, 2009 10:28 AM)

Sure lots of young people are joining the military. They know they won't be in any wars. More then likely they'll be used as some kind of weird Meals On Wheels program rather then having to fight anyone. Obama is making the military just another benefits program, just another thing to have as a social program. The people that join know they'll get premium benefits, a college education, and high pay for doing essentially nothing.
Clark Kent (Sent Friday, May 08, 2009 10:30 AM)

So, William, are you willing to take in your grandparents when they can't afford to live on their own because their Social Security checks aren't coming any more due to budget cuts? Of course all those women and children who will be on the streets rather than public housing will make things safer for all, right? We'll look like a 3rd world country. But apparently that is okay by you.

Tell us, William, what are the viable alternatives? I know you don't know the meaning of empathy but try very hard to find out and try to use some.

Clark Kent, Superman in his own mind, thinks the military shouldn't be vigilant just shoot, shoot, shoot at whatever moves and doesn't move. That is what the military is for, right? War, war, we must have war. Jingoists love this stuff. Sane people don't. Yes, there are some people in the military whose jobs seem boring and useless but think of it like a cop. He drives his area, walks his beat or sits in his office with nothing to do until something happens then he springs into action. That is the military, Clark. Kind of like the police. Unfortunately the US has become the police for the world. We often butt into other countrys' businesses with or without being asked because some special interest may lose a few bucks from no longer being able to fleece the people of that country or use their natural resourses or use them as cheap labor any more.

Perhaps if you were to enlist you would know the military of the US is not some weird meals on wheels program but, of course, that is for other guys, right?
That yellow streak down your back should be polished up it needs to be more obvious than you just made it by your obvious lack of knowledge about our military.



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