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Leahy takes on Cheney

Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:20 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC’s Michelle Perry
The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy (D-VT), took on former Vice President Dick Cheney today, responding to the public criticism he has been giving the Obama administration.

Leahy, appearing on Andrea Mitchell Reports on MSNBC, said he disagrees with comments by the former vice president that the Obama administration is making America more vulnerable to another al Qaeda attack, by not using harsh interrogation tactics.

Video: Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy tells NBC's Andrea Mitchell that the U.S. standing in the world has been damaged by questionable legal memos supporting the Bush administration's use of torture.

"I don't know if this is the run-up to the book the vice president is writing and hoping it will boost sales,” Leahy said, “but it is very interesting to notice the former president is not going on every single TV station to say the same kinds of things."

He added that while Cheney has a First Amendment right to say such things, "I think it is somewhat unseemly. ... I wish that when we were trying to get the documents and material from him, and he was refusing to do that when he was trying to block our subpoenas, that he felt the same way."

Leahy also discussed his meeting with President Obama today on potential nominees for the Supreme Court. He said the decision will come "relatively soon" and that he doesn't think it will be someone that is "way off the charts" but "a good, solid person" that Americans should rally behind.
 
The Judiciary chairman has passed on his recommendations to President Obama in private, he said.

The only hints he would offer? He believes a woman should be considered, given that there is only one currently serving on the court. And that little attention should be paid to the pressure of special-interest groups.

"I remember when different groups on the left were picketing outside of my office, because I supported Justice Souter,” Leahy said. “Now those same groups wish that Justice Souter was not leaving."

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Careful, Pat. Cheney just might tell you to go do something to yourself one more time...

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I'm glad that Leahy is blasting War Criminal Cheney for his new pack of lies to keep himself out of prison.  I hope that Tricky Dick 2 keeps flapping his aging lying gums as all he's accomplishing is to give Democrats a talking point they can't lose on.  The more he talks the more he ties the repugnant ones to him and Clueless George, the 800 pound gorillas on the backs of the Evil Elephant Party.

I'm really disappointed that President Obama is listening to War Criminal Bush and Cheney's toady Ray Odierno about delaying the release of the 2,000 torture photos.  The truth must come out and Odierno should be sacked for his gross incompetence in Iraq and for his now treasonous defense of the War Criminals.

Fire Ray Odierno Now!
Interesting point raised about the documents that shoot you in the face cheney would not release but now he wants some documents?  I want to know about those energy policy meetings, I WANT THE DAMN TRUTH about those!  If cheney thinks torture was fine then why in the hell are soldiers being tried and convicted of something that is now obvious was ordered!
Torture violates International Law
It is illegal

Was torture 'effective'
It dosen't matter IT'S ILLEGAL

If Obama dosen't want to release the new 'torture photos', he should send them to the International Court at the Hague

Let them decide if we tortured and broke International Law

Did torture prevent further attacks on the US ?

NO !!

Why would terrorists bother to attack America when they could kill Americans in Iraq ?

Why travel accross an Ocean to attack Americans when you can kill them in Iraq ??

Torture did NOTHING to maintain safety in America

If someone supports torture to 'defend America' why not SHOW THE TORTURE PHOTOS ???

It's ugly, but we did it to defend America



Khalid Sheik Mohammed was water boarded 183 TIMES IN A MONTH !!
OVER SIX TIMES A DAY !!

HOW DID THAT PROTECT AMERICA ??

Let the people who Water boarded him SIX TIEMS A DAY FOR A MONTH EXPLAIN THIS

That's SADISM not NATIONAL DEFENSE !!


GEORGE BUSH AND DICK CHENEY ARE GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES

HANG 'EM HIGH !!



Send the torture photos to the Hague !!
He added that while Cheney has a First Amendment right to say such things, "I think it is somewhat unseemly. ... I wish that when we were trying to get the documents and material from him, and he was refusing to do that when he was trying to block our subpoenas, that he felt the same way."

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Game set match....  

It's about what is good for cheney, not america
The only america he cares about is the plots of land that houses halliburton and his own hide.
Since President Obama seems so reticent about doing anything about the alleged war crimes the Bush administration committed, Cheney feels he has nothing to lose by revealing what he knows about torture.  If you really want to shut him up, send Cheney a subpoena.  
When Dick Cheney was in a position to clean up his own mess, he punted to the Obama Adminstration.

You had your chance Dick.

You blew it.

No amount 'splaining is gonna fix that.

So how about you and your deranged daughter shut the hell up.

Thank you.
I am sick of this...we should pick a woman because there's only one on the court now...argument.  Hey! As far as we know, there's no openly gay people on the court, so, why not focus on that? Or, there's no Asians on the court, so, should Obama pick one of them? Hey! There's no blind folk on the court either, so, should Obama pick one of them?  
Good points about Cheney from Sen Leahy regarding the secrecy and Cheney's refusal to provide information and the subpoenas he ignored yet now he's out there just about daily talking about how right he is.  When Scheiffer asked him if he would testify under oath, he hedged.  No doubt many republicans secretly wish Cheney would go away also.  Everytime he appears he further justifies the need for investigation.
If anyone cares to go back in history, Leahy is the politician who on at least two occasions leaked classified information to the media. These leaks may have led to the death or deaths of a number of people, including Egyptian intelligence operative.
Forgive me if I find it somewhat revolting that someoene who has never felt that rules apply to him suddenly finds ethics.
If anyone cares to go back in history, Leahy is the politician who on at least two occasions leaked classified information to the media. These leaks may have led to the death or deaths of a number of people, including Egyptian intelligence operative.
Forgive me if I find it somewhat revolting that someoene who has never felt that rules apply to him suddenly finds ethics.
The Cheney sabatage tour continues. Paul Begala writes a nice fact check piece on Huff Post titled.
Mr. Cheney, You Did Not Keep Us Safe

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-begala/mr-cheney-you-did-not-kee_b_203013.html

Here is the kicker. I love it!

"Perhaps what's most galling about Mr. Cheney is how, without irony, humility or apology, he holds himself out as someone who has protected America when in fact he shirked his responsibility before 9-11 and misled us into war after. The closest Dick Cheney has ever come to fighting for America is when he shot his lawyer in the face."

Let's face it folks, from either side of the asle, the former VP is a disaster to the GOP and he did more to hurt us while anyone in office during my lifetime, by FAR.

Go get him, Sen. Leahy!
It is ironic that Chaney is all for truth and release of documents now and is no longer hiding behind "executive privilege!"

I don't really mind that he keeps shooting off his mouth as I think it only helps to the public's view of him and it only serves to harm the republican party (aka, the pro-torture party of no).
I watched the Senate hearing today. I am convinced that the Bush & Cheney circumvented the law. President Bush was lying when he stood up there and said "We do not torture" One of the witnesses was an interrogator either FBI or CIA I'm not sure which, but he categorically denied that torture works. I would believe him before I believe the ravings of a liar such as Cheney.
Didn't most of us see this coming?  Wasn't Leahy the one Cheney said, "F You" to?  No personal vendetta, Cheney is flat wrong on 'modifying' our constitution to support his 'anything goes' agenda.  Does anyone believe any longer that "W" was in charge of anything?  Cheney was the puppet master, orchestrating all policy and practices.  I hope he paid his staff well, because it's just a matter of time before they all start pouring out of the woodwork with the real story.  Published, of course.

Go get him, Leahy!  He's been untethered long enough.
"Obama administration is making America more vulnerable to another al Qaeda attack, by not using harsh interrogation tactics."

That's not what Cheney said, and Leaky knows it. These Democrats (that includes the ones in the media) can really kick ass on straw men. Next time you decide to take on Liz Cheney better make it 5 on 1 because 3 on 1 wasn't enough.
Thank you Mr Leahy, about time someone said something re this.  Everybody I think just keeps hoping Cheny is going away.  Afraid NOT!!  He's a sick man on a strange mission.  Go away Dick and take your daughter with you.  History will not be kind to this administration.  Nobody's fault but their own.
VP cheney still filling the traditional campaign role of attack dog.   drop th attack, he's just a dog; one that wont hunt i might add....
why is it cheney reminds me of blago with less hair. both are attempting to defend themselves and their actions while also attempting to affect the "jury pool."

whether it worked or not, is not the question, only the pea in the shell game con. there is no quid pro quo - we tortured and we have not been attacked again; and further, we are now less safe because we no longer torture.

when people like cheney and lindsey graham defend this country's use of torture, it brings shame and dishonor to the millions of americans who have given their lives to protect this country's history, values and constitution.

I don't think it is about a book. It is more about being caught with a hand in the cookie jar and trying to get out of being punished for it.

Cheney doesn't want to go to prison, who would, for the war crimes. He knows that what he and Dubya as well as some of their lackies did was wrong. As more and more are being revealed the double talks, blames others, threatens, all the sort of things a child does when he is about to get in trouble for doing something he knows he shouldn't have done but did it anyway.
Jim Green: '...If anyone cares to go back in history, Leahy is the politician who on at least two occasions leaked classified information to the media. These leaks may have led to the death or deaths of a number of people, including Egyptian intelligence operative.
Forgive me if I find it somewhat revolting that someoene who has never felt that rules apply to him suddenly finds ethics...'

Facts, anyone ?
Cite the dates and circumstances

PS
Didn't Dick 'out' a CIA agent ?
(hint: Valerie Plame)
Didn't Cheney 'dodge the draft' by getting FIVE DEFERMENTS ?
(All the while supporting the Viet Nam War)

Jim Green, do you 'pick and choose' your revulsion ??
I think a lot of you give Dick Cheney more credit than he deserves in terms of strategizing or in terms of his motivations.  I think in the final analysis, he's just plain nuts.
"Obama administration is making America more vulnerable to another al Qaeda attack, by not using harsh interrogation tactics."

That's not what Cheney said, and Leaky knows it. These Democrats (that includes the ones in the media) can really kick ass on straw men. Next time you decide to take on Liz Cheney better make it 5 on 1 because 3 on 1 wasn't enough.
Dave, Tn (Sent Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:54 PM)

Actually Dave, it is on the same premise of you give a dog enough leash he will eventually hang himself.  Allowing shoot you in the face cheney to spout his own delusional opinions on this matter, he will eventually say something that will be the noose.  He is running scared that he will get prosecuted and he thinks that by doing this he can con people into believing him.  One problem-----we now see the truth---they lied about this!!!!!!
I hope it's about a book and I hope it sells well.  I plan on buying it.  I hope the Leahy quote is in there, uncensored.  

Clara, I'm not sure it was F You, it might have been F Off.  All I know was that Leahy was effed up one way or another and, as a matter of fact, has always been.

It was truly one of the more refreshing moments ever caught on C-Span.

Clara:

What's really frightening is that Joe Biden is the current puppet master.
Why does Leahy remind me of Heath Ledger's Joker?
First Read reports "He added that while Cheney has a First Amendment right to say such things, "I think it is somewhat unseemly. ... I wish that when we were trying to get the documents and material from him, and he was refusing to do that when he was trying to block our subpoenas, that he felt the same way".

 I said almost the exact same thing in a post I "attempted" to post earlier today but I guess MSNBC didn't feel my comment "post worthy".
Cheney needs to go back into his undisclosed location or become Rush or Hannity's "sidekick". I'ts amazing to see him so much now, when during is 8yrs as VP he stayed locked up in his cave. However, he is doing a good deed for the REPUB Party, in 2010 & 2012, they can blame it on Cheyney!  
Leahy

Another Bush-hating SOB who thinks he's better than the dirt. Another one bites the dust. Vacuum the floors with his butt.
It seems that the documents cheney has been referring to don't actually support his claims.  Feingold has read the documents, and said that cheneys talk is nothing but cya blather.  Typical.  Go back to your "undisclosed location" dick, you're not needed here.
Interesting that in another FR story a FBI undercover agent has testified that the best information they got during interrogation was not due to waterboarding.  Pretty damning testimony.  I think someone who was there knows more about it than does Cheney "now I want to steal your money getting you to buy my book"!

I do like the suggestion that we subpeona him - that will undoubtedly shut him up.  If not, when will the media stop with all the coverage on the criminal?!?

Sorry to sound like a liberal, but I hope Obama is seriously considering a woman for the Supreme Court.  Women make up over 50% of the population of this country, yet there is only one female judge.  Drop the nonsense about no gay judge (what is the % of gays compared to % of women?).  Drop the race requirement.  This isn't about ticky marks, but it about seeing some representation on the court.  Even Gingsberg (sp) has commented that there should be another woman than just her.  There are plenty of good female candidates.

Regarding Sessions comment that they should have a new justice seated as long as they are a "controversial" judge, define that for us.  As long as they're a conservative like Roberts, Thomas, Auito?  As long as they're pro-life?  It seems that it's the Republicans that find everything that isn't their way of thinking "controversial".  If that's the case, take it to the Repubs and push throught a justice that represents most of the country.  We need balance on the Supreme Court.  It's already weighted far too conservative.
Leahy's comment to Andrea Mitchell is an opinion.

In reality, Leahy doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground. Another Bush-hating demagogue.
Try not to be ignorant of the facts when you blog.  the truth is out there, if you care to become acquainted with it.
no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:16 PM)=================================================

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You get the point?
Senator Leahy
We Love You
Honestly..
keep up the good work
Dick Cheney has got to be the phoniest mindset- era of the past..
Will he ever go away?
enough.. of Cheney.. he is a loser
That Senator Leahy is quite a guy!
For an old man.. he sure has a punch..
The Fighting Irish!
You tell em' ....

It is disgraceful .. shouldnt dick cheney be ashamed?
Why doesnt he go away?
unreal.. could he be that simple????
Did anyone ever play the game of Risk?  That is what Cheney is doing.  He started out with the same amount of pieces but kept rolling ones and twos and lost all of his pieces.  Now the other players that beat him rolling fives and sixes on the dice are stuck listening to him but not doing what he tells them to do while he is looking over their shoulders.  In that game if you keep trying to win in the small countries and you get ones and twos you loose the game and that is what he did.  He lost but he still wants to play.
When comparing the appearances of Dick Cheney on Face the Nation and Liz Cheney on Morning Joe, two consistencies emerge:

1. The symmetrical demagoguery of father and daughter; and

2.  The incredulous looks of Bob Schieffer, and the entire Morning Joe entourage.

Fascinating in its hypocrisy:  whereas while in office Cheney defied Congress and cited "Executive Privilege" as the reason for this staunch defiance (even going so far as to "reclassify" the Vice Presidency as located somewhere in a nether-world apart from the three branches of Government), now Cheney wants to malign the current president for not releasing everything so as to "justify" his actions, his motives and the professed positive results.

Incredible.

I love Darth Cheney.  Let him speak!!!!  The more he says, the more he destroys the Reich Wing Republican party.  Please, put him on every channel and give him prime time!!!!  Adios Rethuglican party!!!!  Since he's so willing to talk, let's ask him about his whereabouts on 9-11 and about how, exactly, NORAD stood down.  Evidently it's okay if we need to use "enhanced interrogation" techniques on him.


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