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House passes credit card bill

Posted: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:01 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Luke Russert

By a bipartisan 367-61 vote, the House this afternoon passed the Credit Cardholder's Bill of Rights Act of 2009. It  passed the Senate yesterday by a 90-5 margin.
 
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said in a briefing on Tuesday that the bill will provide "a more fair, transparent and simple consumer credit card market." The bill has been deemed consumer friendly by many leading consumer rights groups, and is aimed at cutting down the rising interest rates placed on credit card holders who are more than 30 days late. Here are a few highlights of what the new laws will do for Americans:
 
-- The bill would extend the grace period from 30 to 60 days before credit card companies could increase the interest rate on the consumer's balance. That effectively bans "universal default," which is the practice of raising interest rates after a customer is 30 days late. If the customer pays on time after the 60 days for six months, the credit card company must revert back to the old interest rate.
 
-- If the credit card company decides to increase the interest rate on its customers universally, it must give the customers 45 days notice before implementing the new rate.
 
-- The bill also calls for credit card companies to freeze the initial interest rate of the cardholder for the first year they have the card. And it prohibits credit card companies from charging cardholders a penalty fee when they exceed their credit limit, unless they specifically agree to the penalty in writing.
 
In the bill, Congress also makes a special effort to protect the credit rating of younger Americans. Americans under 21 years of age must have a co-signer who can vouch that the minor has means to pay the credit card bill or agree to be equally responsible for payment.

Overall, the bill strives to give cardholders a clearer picture of where the money is going. Under the new law, credit card companies must provide a clear detailed billing statement that does away with hidden fees and discloses any changes made in billing by the company.
 
In another twist today, the House offered two votes on the Credit Cardholder's Bill of Rights Act of 2009. One was for the bill itself -- and the other for an amendment by Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn that will allow loaded guns in national parks. The two votes allowed House members to distinguish themselves on the gun rights issue. On the House floor, Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA) vehemently spoke out against the gun portion of the bill, saying that it was "dumb amendment and Congress should be embarrassed we have to vote on it." That being said, the Coburn Amendment passed with the backing of 27 Democratic senators last week and passed the House with over 100 Democratic votes because if it hadn't neither would the Credit Cardholder's Bill of Rights Act.
 
President Obama has indicated that he wants to sign the bill by Memorial Day, and look for that to happen after today's vote. Once signed by Obama, Congressional aides tell NBC News that it would take about nine months before the new laws fully go into effect.

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Another victory for Barack and the American People.

Another humiliating loss for the GNOP facists.
This bill could have been called the "Take the Credit Cards Out of Poor People's Pocket Bill". Hence the broad support for it.
Memorial Day is coming up this weekend.  Don't think I will go to a National Park with loaded guns.  Going to the Indy Race is...safer?
Due to credit card lobby firms, the bill was so watered down, that voting for it was nearly meaningless. What started out as something with teeth ended up being something with only gums. It is laughable how badly the Congress of this country is sold out to the banks.
You're getting colder. That's not what Gitmo is classified as. But keep trying, you'll stumble into the truth sooner or later. Bond James (Sent Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:06 PM)
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Actually in this case mr. bond is right, it's a naval base but with no jurisdictional authority.

It was leased from cuba before castro, and has been a limbo topic ever since...

This was the exact reason why the bush administration sent the prisoners here.  To skirt the law of the U.S.

Unfortunately, those who ordered and performed torture are still U.S. citizens and subject to international law.  Even if Gitmo is not considered U.S. soil, there are plenty of Prisons on U.S. bases, as well as SuperMax prisons that could store this limited amount of detainees.

Gitmo is closing, deal with it.  And it is not fair for us to press these individuals on other countries.  It's our mess to clean up.


Patriot Midwest U.S.A.


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Bingo! Someone got it (almost) right. The only part not correct is that part about the torture. Didn't happen. Not even under international law.

And according to the votes in Congress, Gitmo is not closing. Congress apparently won't fund it. And, the terrorists are not coming to the US. Harry Reid said so. And I always beleive Harry Reid.

So Patriot, you get a C+.
Finally my Representative Sam Farr makes the news by correctly attacking that poison pill gun bill that would allow guns in our national parks.  The only way the demented evil elephants would vote against big banking was to vote for this dumb amendment proposed by that coward coburn.

Don't be fooled boys and girls the repugnant ones didn't vote for the credit card bill to protect consumers from predatory banks, they only voted for it to appease their gun clinging base of wimps who are too afraid to go out in public without their guns.

I wish President Obama had the cajones to veto this bill and tell Congress take out the poison pill gun amendment but he won't because unlike the lies that the conservative crybabies spread he isn't out to take away people's guns.  He'll soon discover that he won't get any respect from the gun clinging lunatic fringe.

Just Say No to Guns!
Amendment by Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn that will allow loaded guns in national parks.

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Looks like the crime rate in national parks will be declining very quickly.
So when is Obama going to bailout California? Too big to fail, right?
Another great victory for Barack and the American People.

The GOP response:" Waaaaaaa' Waaaaa, Commie!, Socialist, Waaaaaaaaa".
How can the government "level the playing field" if the field has been sold to China?
I don't care...we don't carry balances from month to month and when a CC company messes with me I don't use them anymore...people with good credit get to do that...the rest of you get congress to protect you from those mean companies who forced you to charge instead of earning whatever you bought...
FR: On the House floor, Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA) . . . .

Any relation to Jamie?
It should NOT have passed with that gun amendment in it.  Has ZERO to do with credit cards and concealed weapons in parks, where people drink, whether they are supposed to or not, is TOTALLY UNSAFE and a very, very STUPID thing for our "leaders" [more like "critters" if you ask me] to do :(!

I wanted this bill but I hope it is not signed.  Another disappointment :(
Good news and about time.  Now, is there any way to resubmit the foreclosure reform bill?  Banks got themselves in trouble by gambling away their customers money, now they want to pull out of customers accounts through increased fees what they can't get out of the taxpayers.  President Obama's right--he's the only thing standing between bank execs and citizens with pitchforks and torches.
Even as a conservative, I support this bill.  The credit card companies have brought this on themselves by the capricious and seemingly unfair manner in which they adjust interest rates and levy fees.

But make no mistake, there is no free lunch and in the short term it is quite possible that credit card costs will go up for all of us (hello annual fees) and the pool of credit will be reduced and squeeze out some of us.  But over time my guess is that consumer costs will eventually trend downward as credit card companies adapt their business models to the new environment and competition among them for our business reasserts itself.
Another humiliating loss for the GNOP facists.



Are you kidding me?  Think Dems would have supported a gun in national parks bill on its own?  The Coburn amendment was brilliant.  Hardly a humiliation.
Oh no!!! the big bad socialists keeping the Credit Card companies from being free to act like loan sharks!!!  Quick stick a gun vote in there so we can stymie the process!!

What's a matter Tom, had to attach your stupid bill to a slam dunk in order to keep some donors happy?  They should ridicule and run this idiot out of town.
Transparency is good, and these changes seem helpful, but why does Congress always dance around the real problem, which is credit card companies charging usurious interest rates that far exceed what banks are willing to pay accountholders on their deposits?

Or is the answer just too obvious?  (Lobbyists and campaign contributions, baby.)    

Banks are becoming just like insurance companies, which nowadays exist only to collect your money and refuse to pay.
Credit cards will take their pound of flesh somehow, but then again it should not be easy for anyone to get a credit card in the first place. These rules make it harder for them to hook average joe's into dept. And how silly is it for the GOP to exclusively slip in an unrelated gun proposition(it's not like people aren't already hiding guns in public). The Dems called their bluff basically...too bad the public won't chide them for that silliness.
It could have been a stronger bill, but at least it begins to tilt the scales back toward a balance point.

As for the gun ammendment, it seems to me that hunting in Ntl Parks is prohibited, but if that makes the gunners happy and they don't start shooting at other folks, it seems OK to me.

About time the GOPers got on board with something for the people, whatever their motives for voting Yea!
ALL the kooks in the House and Senate need to be re-located to a funny farm near Yemen.
Why do those under 21 require a parent for a credit card?  They can join the army, marry, have an abortion but are too irresponsible to own a credit card without parental supervision?
Next vote in Congress? Bill HR209 "Are puppies cute?"

It would be about as useful.
As usual, all the GOP can focus on is god, guns and gays.

PATHETIC
I don't care...we don't carry balances from month to month and when a CC company messes with me I don't use them anymore...people with good credit get to do that...the rest of you get congress to protect you from those mean companies who forced you to charge instead of earning whatever you bought...
Sick of the lack of responsibility (Sent Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:28 PM)
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Yes, Sick, it is very obvious that you don't care - especially about people less fortunate than yourself. Why do you assume that people choose to charge instead of "earning whatever you bought"? There are ALOT of people who get sick or need medicine, or maybe baby formula or food, and don't have the cash --situations vary, they could be unemployed or in a job with no insurance -- I know I had to charge 2 prescriptions every month while I was unemployed because the insurance I could afford at the time did not cover medicine. Fortunately I was eventually in a position to pay it all off. But many people are not. People do what they have to do to take care of their family. We're not all as well off financially as you evidently are. I don't know your politics, and don't care really, but your attitude is just what I'd expect from Republicans the last few years.
I notice a lot of the supporters of this bill have to use sophomoric attacks to support their position.  I guess it's only the "cry baby" Republicans who ever inserted an unrelated amendment in a bill.  At least we don't want to infringe on your constitutionally gauranteed rights.  Speaking of the constitution.  Where does it say in there that the federal government can control banks and take over auto manufacturers?
Hey Sick guy, my credit card debt is due to out of pocket medical expenses, not irresponsibility so don't assume every single person with large credit card debt is living above their income.  Sometimes it is because they would like to live.
I don't care...we don't carry balances from month to month and when a CC company messes with me I don't use them anymore...people with good credit get to do that...the rest of you get congress to protect you from those mean companies who forced you to charge instead of earning whatever you bought...
Sick of the lack of responsibility (Sent Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:28 PM)

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People like you make me sick.  Hae you ever been laid off?  Have you ever had an emergency that rquired lots of money you did not have because you were laid off?  Have you ever had a catastrophic illness that put you in debt?

Until you walk in another person's shoes for a mile, you have no right to criticize those who were not as lucky as you to have the means to pay their balances every month.  It's people like you who seem to be populating the current version of the Republican party and have no sympathy for those less fortunate than you.  Look beyond your own little sanctimonious world and you'll find that most people are not as fortunate as you.

Not everyone is in trouble because of lack of responsibility.  Many are underwater because of circumstances beyond their control or the unfair practices that these CC companies have been doing.

Lack of empathy, it's why I broke up with my last girlfriend, she had none.
I don't use credit cards anymore. Debit cards actually let you pay for things. At least half the country has figured this out based on December 2008 survey from Visa. Pay for stuff, don't use other people's money.
If card issuers try any shenanigans or pay back they should remember the overwhelming support this bill has from the American People and their representatives and how another bill could just as easilly get even tougher on them.
Just another band-aid over a bleeding wound.  Who can argue that we do not have a government of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations.  Obama's good intentions seem to have been negated by "REALPOLITIK".  As always the rich guys are running the show.
Hey Sick guy, my credit card debt is due to out of pocket medical expenses, not irresponsibility so don't assume every single person with large credit card debt is living above their income.  Sometimes it is because they would like to live.

Julie, Palm Desert, CA
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And now you won't be allowed to have any credit cards. Happy?
Big, fat, hairy deal to quote my hero, Garfield. So consumers got tossed a few bones by Congress just to quieten the rabble down. Even when Pres. Obama signs it, this bill would not go into effect until February 2010.  That's plenty of time for banks to introduce all the new fees they can think of and raise interest rates.   If Congress wasn't in the bank lobbyists' pockets, this bill would have been a whole lot tougher. So enjoy your hollow victory.
WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS BILL??? Credit card companies ARE NOT prohibited from developing new accounting methods to stick it to the card holder.

45 DAYS NOTICE OF INTEREST RATE HIKE? HaHaHaHaHa...like a borrower is actually going to be able to pay off the card balance before the increase takes effect!

This is a great big joke designed to give the APPEARANCE that our elected officials give a damn!
And now you won't be allowed to have any credit cards. Happy?
Not a Kennedy (Sent Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:36 PM)
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Don't be ridiculous. Or stupid. More scare tactics as usual from the right? Good, that's what we need.


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