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First thoughts: Obama in Middle East

Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:21 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Obama in the Middle East: President Obama has already touched down in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where he attended a welcoming ceremony with Saudi King Abdullah, and the two hold a bilateral session at 9:20 am ET. (Take note of the king's handshake with a few women in the U.S. delegation.) Per NBC’s Scott Foster, Riyadh was a last-minute addition to the trip, which White House officials say will give the president the chance to meet face to face with a strategic partner in the region. Likely on the agenda: energy, Middle East Peace, Iran, and the recent fighting between the Taliban and security forces in Pakistan. On the face of it, the president's first trek to the Middle East can't be anything but successful, right? Maybe. While this trip is billed as a conversation-starter of sorts, there's the question of whether the administration should ask more our Arab allies than talking. Talk is nothing new when it comes to key issues in the Middle East, and the Obama White House knows this -- which is why they need to see things jump started. While the president won't say this on the record, there are indications that the administration would like to see real progress made in the next two years on both the Israeli-Palestinian front, as well as with Iran. The longer it takes, the more likely any deals will get derailed. As confident as the president is with his ability to get warring factions to start talking, he did get a quick lesson in Middle East diplomacy when the Saudis reminded the White House that Obama can't address the Muslim world by just visiting Cairo; he needed to pay the respect the Saudis believe they deserve as the protector of Islam's holiest sites.

*** Today’s question: Will the Saudi side acknowledge they are more concerned about Iran's ambitions than Israel's? According to the president in an interview with the New York Times’ Tom Friedman, that is the case with some key Arab allies and while he didn't name Saudi Arabia, it was certainly implied.

*** The Speech: Of course, the big Middle East event will take place tomorrow, when Obama delivers his speech in Cairo, Egypt about the U.S. and its relations with the Muslim world. During the early days of the presidential campaign, in August 2007, Obama promised he would, if elected, give such speech in his first 100 days as president. He technically fulfilled his promise when he spoke in Turkey back in April, but the White House considers the one tomorrow to be THE speech. Here’s what Obama said when he made his promise in 2007: “I will make clear that we are not at war with Islam, that we will stand with those who are willing to stand up for their future, and that we need their effort to defeat the prophets of hate and violence. I will speak directly to that child who looks up at that helicopter, and my message will be clear: ‘You matter to us. Your future is our future. And our moment is now.’” Breaking news: Obama’s speech comes as Osama bin Laden has said in a new recording that Obama and his administration “have planted seeds for hatred and revenge against America," Reuters reports.

Video: Hoping to improve U.S. relations with the Arab and Islamic world, Obama arrived in the Middle East amid fresh threats from al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden. NBC's Chuck Todd reports from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

*** Downplaying expectations: By the way, have the expectations for Obama's Cairo speech already gotten out of hand? Can he both please the Muslim world AND the Israelis AND the American public? Good luck with that! In an interview with NBC’s Brian Williams, however, Obama tried his best to downplay expectations. “After all, one speech is not gonna transform very real policy differences and some very difficult issues surrounding the Middle East and-relationship between Islam and the West.” He added, “But I am confident that we're in a moment where, in Islamic countries, I think there's a recognition that the path of extremism is not actually gonna deliver a better life for people. I think there's a recognition that simply being anti-American is not gonna solve their problems.”

*** Sotomayor on 'Latina' and abortion: Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor returns to Capitol Hill for a second day of meetings with Democratic and Republican senators. The list, per NBC’s Dax Tejera: Sheldon Whitehouse (at 9:30 am ET), Barbara Mikulski (10:15 am), Lindsey Graham (11:45 am), Ben Cardin (12:30 pm), Judd Gregg (2:30 pm), Herb Kohl (3:45 pm), Ron Wyden (4:30 pm), Olympia Snowe (5:15 pm), and Chuck Schumer (6:00 pm). Late yesterday, we discovered that Sotomayor -- following Obama’s script from Friday -- admitted that her “wise Latina woman” remark was a “poor choice of words,” NBC’s Ken Strickland and Winston Wilde report. It was Sen. Dianne Feinstein who got this admission from Sotomayor yesterday. As Feinstein told reporters, “She said, 'You know, obviously it's a poor choice of words. If you went on and read the rest of my speech, you wouldn't be concerned about it.' But, it was just a poor choice of words." NBC’s Strickland and Wilde also note that Feinstein was more than comfortable with Sotomayor’s take on the law surrounding Roe v. Wade. "I think she's a woman who's well steeped in the law, and well steeped in precedent. And, I believe that she has a real respect for precedent, and she was not just saying that." In the context of abortion, “precedent” has long been code for accepting the ruling of Roe v. Wade.

Video: According to Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, Sotomayor clarified her controversial remarks from 2001, saying that no matter what their background may be, all judges have to "follow the law." NBC's Brian Williams reports.

*** Sessions’ gaffe: Sen. Jeff Sessions, the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, appeared to have committed a gaffe yesterday, when he remarked that there's no need to rush the confirmation hearings for Sonia Sotomayor, NBC’s Pete Williams notes. "We have a good advantage in that Justice Souter's resignation doesn't take effect until October 5, when the term ends,” he said. “And I do think that gives us the ability to take our time and do it right.” Uh, there’s one little problem with that statement, as Williams points out. When Souter announced his retirement, he said it would occur at the end of the court’s term -- which is in June or July.

*** Another Republican joining Team Obama: Is there anything worse for the NRCC than having an ex-DCCC chairman as the White House chief of staff? We're sure the president and Rahm Emanuel believed Rep. John McHugh (R-NY) was very qualified for the job of Army secretary, but talk about rubbing salt in the GOP's Northeastern wounds. The good news for the NRCC: Expectations are with the Dems at this point. The bad news: Lots of wasted money on another special election, and the NRCC (which is off to a good fundraising start) can't afford the financial distraction. Obama isn't just trying to win over Republican moderates in the electorate; he’s also trying to pick off any moderates the party has and tuck them in his administration: LaHood, McHugh, Huntsman, Specter… This really is starting to look like what Reagan did with conservative Democrats in the early '80s…

*** No rest for the weary: So apparently Obama told House and Senate Democrats yesterday that he wants a health-care reform bill through both houses of Congress before the August recess. Seriously? That schedule means you’ll have the conference debate in September and the bill on the president's desk in October. It's quite ambitious given that the president also wants the Senate to confirm Sotomayor by the August recess as well. And has he brought up energy? Of course, the House may get an energy bill soon, but will the Senate follow suit? Bottom line: It appears the White House has signaled its summer priorities: health care and Sotomayor. This could work in the White House's favor this way: Republicans may not have the energy to battle the White House on both fronts. Something will have to give, right? As for the health-care plan itself, the president said he supported a public option, which probably means fewer Republicans will climb aboard. Then again, this could be a negotiating ploy. Just as interesting, according to Senate Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus, the president indicated possible support for the idea of taxing health-care benefits as a way to pay for the reform. Of course, Candidate Obama beat up Candidate McCain hard over that exact idea. Will the president duck the flip-flop label if he ends up signing a bill that contains that idea?

*** It’s Christie vs. Corzine: As expected, former U.S. attorney Chris Christie easily defeated former Bogota Mayor Steve Lonegan in yesterday’s GOP primary in New Jersey. With 97% of precincts reporting, Christie got 55% of the vote to Lonegan’s 42%. Christie’s primary victory sets up a general election contest against vulnerable incumbent Gov. Jon Corzine, who starts out as the clear underdog. In fact, this is the GOP’s best opportunity to win statewide in New Jersey since Christie Todd Whitman won re-election in 1997 (If he wins, will Republicans start looking for anyone named “Christie” to run in New Jersey?) If Corzine triumphs in November, he can thank two things: 1) his Goldman Sachs fortune, although we wonder how much he’ll be able to spend in this tough economy; and 2) the Republican Party’s brand. Indeed, with Vice President Joe Biden in tow, Corzine delivered a line you’ll probably hear plenty between now and the election. “I don’t know about you,” Corzine said, per the New York Times. “But I’m not about to put my trust in the same people who gave us George Bush, Dick Cheney or John Ashcroft, skyrocketing unemployment, a housing crisis, bank bailouts, and a war in Iraq!” The pressure is on Christie to pull this off, as Corzine has no where to go but up. If he wins, Christie becomes an instant national star thanks to the New York media market and the fact he'll have done something so rare in the Northeast for a Republican: win. 

*** 2012 watch: Announcing yesterday that he wouldn’t seek a third term, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) didn’t say that he’s running for president in 2012. But he sure came close. “I still have a lot of ideas and energy left,” he said. “But being governor should not be permanent.” He also said this: "I don't know what the future holds for me. I'm not ruling anything in or out." During his news conference, Pawlenty "also made clear that he would follow the directive of the State Supreme Court and ratify whomever it declared the victor in the Senate race between Norm Coleman ... and Al Franken,” the New York Times writes. “I’m going to do whatever the court says. If the court directs me to sign that certificate, I will.” Over to you, Minnesota Supreme Court.

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Now we have the Newter back peddling on his racist comments regarding Judge Sotomeyer! No one saw this one coming now did they?  Tsk… Tsk… Lord Limpballs is not going to be very happy with you there Newtie!

I believe in Republiklan terminology that’s what’s commonly know as a FLIP FLOP!

Every day it’s something new with these clowns!  The Party of NO – no leader – no messages – no voters – no ideas – no brains… I think you get the picture!

And then this morning we’ve got Bin Laden rearing his ‘ugly’ head again – I’m sooo shaking in my shoes this morning – NOT!  That’s why the GEENOPEE has their secret weapon of Sister Sarah! According to them she’s a real ‘dead eye’ shot from the safety of her chopper!

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Dickhead Cheenee made a call to Bin Laden himself so the country is on ‘I’m so scared I’m about to sh*t myself alert!’   AGAIN… and then he can say ‘I told you so’ Given the Dick’s past actions… I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past him!

What comforts me is knowing that the Dick’s day of reckoning is rapidly closing in on him!  That’s why he’s acting like the cornered RAT that he is!  Teeth bared, all bug eyed, and snapping out and anyone who dares to question him… That’s the way… uh huh uh huh… I like it… uh huh uh huh….
FR: (Take note of the king's handshake with a few women in the U.S. delegation.)

Okay, we took note of it. So what?
The fact that Bin Laden is now trying to stir HATE towards Obama just shows how bankrupt Bin Ladin is. Its also a reminder that BUSH NEVER GOT HIM. I pray that Obama get Bin Laden and has him tried in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan so he is EXECUTED.
Bush and Cheney wasted lives and money never getting to the heart of the problem.
Bin laden...

 Please tell me they will not be so foolish as to ram a health care bill speedily through Congress.  Something this monumental requires some careful thought and debate.   Do they really want to treat it with the same recklessness they treated the 'stimulus'?  
So, where is Hillary? She is Secretary of something or other, isn't she?
First Read; Of course, the big Middle East event will take place tomorrow, when Obama delivers his speech in Cairo.

The teleprompter make the trip? Seated in first class? Or baggage?
Sonia,
Compassion for others should be a strength not a selfish biased experience of one's own pride of making it. How many lives will you ruin if you can't understand or are blinded by the lack of empathy for others ( i.e. white men or women non-latino)...
Caution to all:  Pawlenty likes to pretend he is a moderate, he is not. The MN Republican party is far to the right of any moderate position.  Not too long ago, they refused to support a sitting MN governor (Gov Carlson) when he ran for re election because he was too moderate.  The Republican Party ran a right wing nut, Carlson ran as an independent and won.  Pawlenty has devastated MN in the same way that Bush and his policies devastated the nation.  The only core principle that Pawlenty has is what is good for him and his political aspirations.  He is a joke here, he only won election in a three way race, in his second election, he would have been defeated by his Dem. opponent, but that opponent imploded at the end. His election numbers have been around 46% in his races.  His approval numbers are headed into the trash bin.  The only reason he is not running here is that it is doubtful that he would be re elected.
"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God"  
Matthew 5:9

Tomorrow President Obama will be in Egypt to speak to the Muslim world.  It a real sense we are all neighbors on this rock called planet Earth and it is fitting that we find peace with all our neighbors.  I expect President Obama to extend an olive branch, like the one in the right claw of the eagle on the back of the one dollar bill.  (Granted the left claw has arrows in case diplomacy does not work.)

But the point is our President will extend the hand of peace and friendship.  This will make our conservative friends very uncomfortable.  They prefer the Cheney model of nuclear bombs in both hands.  Conservative hawks believe that intimidation,fear, threats, and torture still work.  President Obama's vision is more about all civilized countries isolating terrorists and ending terrorism.

Right wing nuts will say Obama is soft, caving in, or too apologetic.  I believe it takes more strength, thought, and wisdom to broker peace than to preemptively bomb your neighbors.  If you do not agree, talk to Kim Jong Il of NOrth Korea.  He too is a crazy bomb-throwing conservative.
Here come the "did Obama bow to the Saudi King" rants, in 3, 2, 1....
Answer another posting:
IntheMiddle, TX :

I debated answering your ramblings but alas; I found you hard to resist. It’s a fact grasshopper and your poor use of “ebonics” is why you truly weren’t worth educating. So you think that this is the language of blacks? Explains why your lack in brain cells allows your present thinking.

My dad was a card carrying republican until he died last year, loved him dearly he was my hero and I was a daddy’s girl and actually is where I got my moxie from. My fire, and passion for outspoken
righteousness, was what he loved, encouraged, admired and loved most about me.

My grand parents--by the way were white and further encourged my views, insisted that I continue to be the broad minded and a free thinking intelligent female that I am today. You missed out on a lot angry person…didn’t you? Perhaps you should have traveled out side of Texas and had the privilege to live amongst other coultures..perhaps you wouldn’t be so angry now.

Say you grew up in the sixies, did you? Juding from your racist retherioc and disrespect for the female gender and feverent defense of Rush Limbaugh’s racist retherioc; feel most certain that your parents didn’t bother to educate you, but how could they when they more than likely had none themselves. While you were marching in your white sheets…we were being educated.

Your ramblings and misguided ideas about the inner thinkings of African Americans simply astounds me. So you’re an expert on the subject without the benefit of being Black…I find this very interesting indeed. Explains why you people are misguided.

The United States of America’s population is not 95% Black…it wasn’t just the Black vote that elected  President Obama, it was a multi racial, multi cultural election.

You need to get away from talk radio and get a “real clue”. The Blacks that voted for Obama voted for him because we felt that he was qualified to be the President of all people and not just one race of people.

I do recall Jessee Jackson, Sr. running for President, he is Black; However he didn’t get the black vote…explain that Mr. expert. Better yet allow me; Jessee Jackson, Sr. was too one sided racially biased…First Read, give this misguided sole some real stats on this subject.

I know that you’re a coward and you will most likely post an answer using my name or some other one…that’s what I like most about”you people”…you’re predictable. LOL


Sonia+SCOTUS does not equal
"to form a more perfect union"..
She has to much self pride and to much lack of empathy...
First Read; 'People will be asking: ‘Why is this guy who looks like everyone on the street here the head of the free world and we can’t even touch freedom?’

With freedom comes a price. And it is not paid by people looking at a muslim like Obama. It's paid through conflict, with blood. Take Iraq for example. No one can say that that country isn't better off then it was 10 years ago. They tasted freedom, and they love it. They've paid for it, as has America. Of course Obama will not reference the sacrifices of Americans for freesom both in the Middle-East, and around the world. But Obama will apologize for the fringe descreastions the United States may have committed.


People will be asking: ‘Why is this guy who looks like everyone on the street here the head of the free world and we can’t even touch freedom?’ You never know where that goes."

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Frideman needs to take a look at himself because  he thinks the world is flat.
I can understand the Muslims in frustration; but my paranoia is kicking in now. With all the wackos out from the Right Wing Dings there, it may be in to their best interest. Some people will stalk public figures to the end of the earth to fulfill their so-called mission.
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It was so refreshing to see Lawrence O'Donnell wipe that Confederate guy Pat Buchanan's clock on Chris' show. He and Newt just can't get over the fact the world is changing and leaving them behind. Stoke time!
I totally agree Feisty!  Watched alot on the Dick's actions yesterday.  Some say he's trying to cover his butt, knowing he will be prosecuted for his crimes.  Now to see him on TV blaming Tenant is disgusting.  It's so obvious the man is crazy. He's out doing all these speeches so he can pay for his defense.      

       
Was that Hillary in a burqua? Nice!
I heard on POTUS this morning that Osama bin Laden is 'speaking out' because he is worried President Obama's speech and policies will resonate in the Muslim world and further diminish Osama's standing.

Time will tell, I guess.

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In the "No Rest for the Weary" section of this article, these are separate committees, so why would their be delays or a problem with moving both agendas down the field?  Well, okay, that was rhetoric, we all know the Repubs can't multi-task and their talking heads tend to explode when there is more than one ball in the air.  I see no conflict or reason that both items can't progress.
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Any news on when MN will rule on Coleman's whining?
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PS.  Chuck, what's up with you and Samantha Gunther snarking at/about each other?  All fun and games?
First Read; Of course, the big Middle East event will take place tomorrow, when Obama delivers his speech in Cairo.

The teleprompter make the trip? Seated in first class? Or baggage?
Hendy, KC KS (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:36 AM)

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Oh, for the love of God, will the G-NO-P, at some point, at least pretend to come up with some new material?

(Or are you all too busy pretending to think up alternatives to the President's budget?)
Osama Bin Laden released another statement viciously attacking President Obama. I wonder who hates Obama more: Bin Laden,Rush Limbaugh, or Newt Gingrich?

On Sotomayor: Her "wise Latina" comment was dishonestly taken out of context by the wingnuts, whose dishnest attacks have been parroted endlessly by the "seriou" (corporate) news media.

Sotomayor was saying only that her background gave her better insight into gender and ethnic bias cases, she was not making some sweeping claim of superiority.  Unfortunately,  politicians who've made blatantly outrageous statemenst claim they were taken out of context routinely even when the context wasn't the problem. So she cannot say she was taken out of context because it sounds so much like an empty excuse. That's semantic inflation similar to what has happened to the term "racist" which now is a word used mostly by white racists like Limbaugh to attack minorities who get too "uppity" like Obama and Sotomayor.
Oh, its' going to be so much fun wathcing the Democrats try to come with a way to pay for health care. No more just printing money and increasing the deficit like Obama has been doing to pay for his bank bailouts, insurance bailouts, automaker buyouts. Healthcare will have to be paid for, and there's only two main ways to do it - 1) Tax peoples's benefits, and/or 2) Create a Value Added Tax. Both are regressive, and both will cost average Americans thousands of dollars per year. We'll see how popular the Democrats are after they implement their tax scheme on all Americans.
You know, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is the best president we've ever had in this country.

This trip into the muslin world, PRICELESS; no wonder satan's BFF (Bin Laden) had to send a tape. He knows damn well that this trip will be very damaging for him and his militants. How uncomfortable and irrelevant that Bin Laden guy appears now.
Our president is doing what all of us do on a daily basis; I mean try to imagine how "swell" life would be if you didn't have a decent realationship with your neighbors who like you, have children, pets, etc...
Our President Obama is a most skilled chess player.  Lets see how he plays against the potential for a serious inflation over the next few years in addition to paying down the debt and deficit.  Honestly, I feel that if anyone can check mate those two ugly possible futures, it is his administration but it may be too much for any administration.  I also have a good feeling about how his Mid Eastern tour will work out.  I just bought a house at 4.75%.  Lets keep things rolling forward, shall we?
Sonia+SCOTUS does not equal
"to form a more perfect union"..
She has to much self pride and to much lack of empathy...

BJ, CA (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:40 A

U are a MORON
Oh, its' going to be so much fun wathcing the Democrats try to come with a way to pay for health care. No more just printing money and increasing the deficit like Obama has been doing to pay for his bank bailouts, insurance bailouts, automaker buyouts. Healthcare will have to be paid for, and there's only two main ways to do it - 1) Tax peoples's benefits, and/or 2) Create a Value Added Tax. Both are regressive, and both will cost average Americans thousands of dollars per year. We'll see how popular the Democrats are after they implement their tax scheme on all Americans.

Grayson B., Cary NC (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:47 AM

FOX NEWS IS LOOKING FOR UYour talking points are already OLD like your ideas
No mention of the fact that the White House had to scramble at the last minute to add this trip to Saudi Arabia to the schedule after the Saudis raised a fuss that his 'great speech to the Muslim world' was being made in Cairo.  No mention of the fact that it was pointed out to Obama that the Saudis are important to our interests in the region.  Just more evidence that the PEW research report on the media treatment of Obama is correct.  You have completely abandoned any principles of journalism, and have become cheerleaders.
How come Obama says Iran can have nuclear power (Nuclear power? Right. Iran is sitting on a trillion gallons of oil, and they need nuclear power), but the United States can't have nuclear power.

Maybe someone should clue Obama in on what Iran really wants to come out of their nuclear program.
Here come the "did Obama bow to the Saudi King" rants, in 3, 2, 1....
pat huntington ny

Waiting . . . . .
No Joe -- we've mentioned exactly that both yesterday and today. Here's what we wrote above: "As confident as the president is with his ability to get warring factions to start talking, he did get a quick lesson in Middle East diplomacy when the Saudis reminded the White House that Obama can't address the Muslim world by just visiting Cairo; he needed to pay the respect the Saudis believe they deserve as the protector of Islam's holiest sites." We also wrote this: "Riyadh was a last-minute addition to the trip."
First Read; Of course, the big Middle East event will take place tomorrow, when Obama delivers his speech in Cairo.

The teleprompter make the trip? Seated in first class? Or baggage?
Hendy, KC KS (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:36 AM)
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Did I not call this yesterday?  If nothing else the GEENOPEE is predictable! And sooo yesterday
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It was so refreshing to see Lawrence O'Donnell wipe that Confederate guy Pat Buchanan's clock on Chris' show. He and Newt just can't get over the fact the world is changing and leaving them behind. Stoke time!
Beverly in Chicago (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:41 AM)
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It was awesome now wasn’t it!  That’s what my guy Lawrence O’ does… calm, factual, and on point vs. Patsy B… lying, hysterical racist!  No comparision but GREAT viewing! Apples & Oranges Indeed!

Ps:  It’s no secret I’ve got a crush on Lawrence! MSNBC give him his OWN SHOW already will ya!
*** Obama in the Middle East:
At least he is making an effort to do something that Bush failed to do. The customs of the Muslims must be respected as with any other culture.

Also Bin Laden released an "audio" just before the President touched down...I really don't believe that he is still alive and I don't see any real danger in his threats,

It is also becoming crystal clear why Cheney started making the news circut as more evidence begins to unfold surrounding his intervention and orders for water boarding the detainees.

Feisty Im with you on the Cheney call to Bin Laden. I strongly suspect their friendship, always have.
FOX NEWS IS LOOKING FOR UYour talking points are already OLD like your ideas
Nj (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:49 AM)

Care to speculate on how Obama and the Democrats are going to pay for health care? Or is more easy for you to just whine about what others think?
"This really is starting to look like what Reagan did with conservative Democrats in the early '80s…"
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One difference:  Conservatives are more than happy to give the moderates a shove toward the door, when the Obama administration comes calling.  For some idiotic reason, they believe ideological purity is the path to regaining power.

Ron Indiana:  Great post.  Madeline Albright has a very interesting observation in the NY Times, where she discussed conferences she has attended on American relations with the Muslim world:

"According to Muslim speakers at such events, one fact stands out: When the cold war ended, America needed an enemy to replace Communism and chose Islam."

Hopefully our President can begin to change that opinion of our nation.  As you pointed out, he has the strength, wisdom, and intelligence to do so.  
'...the New York Times’ Tom Friedman, that is the case with some key Arab allies and while he didn't name Saudi Arabia, it was certainly implied...'

Friedman is a HACK with an overblown reputation
He supported the Iraq War
He's an apologist ofr NAFTA and 'Free' Trade (sic)

It's the Israeli's who pose a threat to their neighbors
The Israelis passed nuclear weapons technology to South Africa in exchange for uranium
South Africa exploded their nuclear device in 1979

Consequences, anyone ??
Score one for Mark Murray!

Thanks for the clarafication for our village idiot!
no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:50 AM)
Just more evidence that the PEW research report on the media treatment of Obama is correct.  You have completely abandoned any principles of journalism, and have become cheerleaders.
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hey Joe Blow
The United states will going green.


Mark Murray:
Great heads up for this one. Seems as though there are problems with reading and Comprehension from this one. LOL
no joe, no bo, nj - No Joe -- we've mentioned exactly that both yesterday and today. Here's what we wrote above: "As confident as the president is with his ability to get warring factions to start talking, he did get a quick lesson in Middle East diplomacy when the Saudis reminded the White House that Obama can't address the Muslim world by just visiting Cairo; he needed to pay the respect the Saudis believe they deserve as the protector of Islam's holiest sites." We also wrote this: "Riyadh was a last-minute addition to the trip." Mark Murray (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:53 AM)------------ maybe next time no joe, you'll actually read the post! You got served! LOL!
It is good that Gov. Pawlenty is finally going to follow the orders of the Minnesota Supreme Court. Soon Senator Franken will be seated in Washington where he belongs. Pawlenty is trying to kiss enough butts to take a stab at POTUS. He will be sadly disappointed.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:54 AM)

Ps:  It’s no secret I’ve got a crush on Lawrence! MSNBC give him his OWN SHOW already will ya!
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Feisty
I second that motion. I love a strong, feisty, man. His first guest should be heartless, lying, criminal Dick Cheney



Mr. Murray:

Thank you for the correction-I missed it on First Read, read it in the newspaper from the AP.

Now, about that "Inside the White House" feature. . .
For those who have convienently forgotten. Ronald Reagan reigned over and approved with ease (but with retoric that claimed the opposit) a great expansion in debt. His error was that he also began an era of no real government responsability to watch those who manipulated the money. Bill Clinton had the task of reigning in government spending but also made the mistake of not watching over the free-market giants who manipulated the money. Thus continued the spiral of government laissez faire which is not what is needed in the world of multi-national world market. A government is responsable to protect its citizens, not the multi-nationals.
You have completely abandoned any principles of journalism, and have become cheerleaders.
no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:50 AM)
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Well we sure are not going to look to you for factual data and good journalism.
First Read; 'People will be asking: ‘Why is this guy who looks like everyone on the street here the head of the free world and we can’t even touch freedom?’

With freedom comes a price. And it is not paid by people looking at a muslim like Obama. It's paid through conflict, with blood. Take Iraq for example. No one can say that that country isn't better off then it was 10 years ago. They tasted freedom, and they love it. They've paid for it, as has America. Of course Obama will not reference the sacrifices of Americans for freesom both in the Middle-East, and around the world. But Obama will apologize for the fringe descreastions the United States may have committed.
Jason H., Plano Texas (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:41 AM)

We share your concern for the peoples of iraq dude...are you ready to send your kids to die freeing the people of North Korea too? Or Saudi Arabia? or Venezuela? or Dubai, or pakistan? I thought so...another tough talker on iraq but you actually have nothing but the bushie flag waving faux patriotism going for you...nice trie though
Do you believe everything that Obama says?

Yea, and I wont come in your mouth either! Obama for Saudi King (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:03 AM)
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Non issue!  Word on the street is you CAN’T GET IT UP!
Looking forward to several days of Pres Obama overseas coverage.  Figures Bin Laden comes out of his hiding place in an effort to downplay what he fears, that Pres Obama might eventually succeed in tamping down the hatred and violence.  It will be slow but it appears that the other Arab nations are concerned for their own countries.  If we look at the glass half full, Iran's agressive push toward nuclear weapons may actually prove the tie that binds the middle east toward doing something about Palestine and Israel, Iran and the Muslim extremists.  One can hope that progress can be made toward peace in that volatile region.

So Newt is backpeddling on HIS race baiting remarks; this was his problem before, speak without thinking, attack without consideration for the consequences of those words and actions.  Even Cheney is backing off his remarks about those documents providing proof that waterboarding worked.  I see he is now blaming Richard Clark and George Tenet; guess he needs a couple scapegoats to protect his lies and image.  Cheney is one of those people who tell so much lies they no longer know what the truth is.  What struck me in Cheney's recent comments is the word "I", I made this decision, I did that, I know what I did was right--odd since he was the VP and not President--maybe this is insight into WHO HE thought was in charge.

Enjoyed "The Nation's" Kristina V make Morning Joe squirm today by reminding him of the negative side of Ronald Reagan--cutting school lunch programs for poor children, beginng the cultural divide, etc.  He stuttered some and tried to change the subject.  Ahh, the republicans only want to remember the good things Reagan did as a conservative (which he did do) but have forgotten those things which made him a conservative without conscience and why Reagan turned me into a democrat.
Obie:

After months of exposure I essentially know nothing about you.

I don't know how you paid for an Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing without any visible signs of support.

You didn't spend your formative years of youth growing up in America and so, culturally, you are not an American.

You have never run a company or met a payroll.

Over half of your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America.

You are a cheerleader for the "blame America" crowd and deleiver this message abroad.

You want to change America to a European-style country where government dominates instead of the private sector.

You want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.

You want to kill capitalism which provides the highest standard of living in the world.

You believe you are omnipotent.

You prefer controlling over governing and the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.

You have used bullying tactics against banks and corporations.

Almost all of your political picks have been dishonest, tax cheaters or some other type of controversial unethical individual.


* Just a line of reasoning on why I have no admiration or sense of respect for you as president.
I always enjoy a debate between Pat Buchanan and Lawrence O'Donnell. Pat is so predictable. One  could almost turn off the sound and still know what he is saying. This morning Joe Scarborough defended Pat by stating that Pat was against the Iraq war. Well, big deal, so were a lot of other people where is the rational for that statement. Google Team America or American Cause and you will soon come to the conclusion that Pat Buchanan is a rabid racist. He questions whether the holocaust really happened. Just a good old guy spouting his hatred, and MSNBC defends him. What is wrong with this picture?
The Thrill Of Victory, And The Sometimes Agony Of Defeat

I’m really looking forward to reading Richard Wolffe’s new book – “Renegade – The Making of a President”. What a thrilling campaign for all involved.

I can’t help but be so happy for Chuck, Athena and Samantha who are fortunate enough to be on this trip with President Obama. It must be so exciting for them to be traveling with this new Administration all over the world. They all worked tirelessly during the campaign. I'm looking forward to their insights here on First Read.

I hope they're keeping a diary, which I know can be very time consuming, but I would imagine well worth it, to be able to look back to this moment in time 20 years from now.

No mention of the fact that the White House had to scramble at the last minute to add this trip to Saudi Arabia to the schedule after the Saudis raised a fuss that his 'great speech to the Muslim world' was being made in Cairo.  No mention of the fact that it was pointed out to Obama that the Saudis are important to our interests in the region.  Just more evidence that the PEW research report on the media treatment of Obama is correct.  You have completely abandoned any principles of journalism, and have become cheerleaders.
no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:50 AM)
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There you go... glass half empty huh?.. Well how about this.... I hate custard...!!!! lol
Why does Obama have to downplay expectations? lets get something done!
how will the muslim community react to this i wonder?
http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/06/uhoh-gay-muslim-story-to-appear-on-british-soap.html


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