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What North Korea wants

Posted: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:10 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Andrea Mitchell


As was written about earlier today on First Read, President Obama is deeply concerned about the conviction of the two journalists in North Korea, and the U.S is doing everything possible through diplomatic channels to secure their release, the White House says.

An identical statement was issued by the State Department. The U.S. has no diplomatic relations with the North, but has been working through Sweden's ambassador, who represents U.S. interests in Pyongyang. However, he was not even permitted to attend the trial as an observer -- despite repeated requests from the U.S.

Video: Andrea Mitchell weighs in on the two U.S. journalists sentenced to 12 years of hard labor in North Korea.

U.S. officials believe the North is trying to use the women as bargaining chips in ongoing negotiations with the West. On ABC Sunday, Secretary Clinton emphasized that the women's fates should be treated as a humanitarian issue. Clearly, the U.S. is trying to keep this case separate from the more difficult political and security disagreements with the North.

The Obama team's assumption is that the women's trial is wrapped up in the succession struggle. Last week, the regime let it be known that ailing leader Kim Jong Il would be succeeded by his youngest son. That could be an indication that the military is really in charge, and that the son is merely a figurehead.

The Obama national security team believes that North Korea wants recognition as a nuclear power and will not agree to give up its nuclear program -- despite past promises.  That has led to a re-examination of past negotiating tactics, which have proved unsuccessful.

Secretary Clinton also indicated on Sunday that the U.S. is trying to get China's support for an American initiative to board North Korean ships and intercept any illegal nuclear or missile cargo. The United Nations had given provisional approval to the interception program in the past, but with very ambiguous wording, and it was never implemented.

Clinton also say the U.S. is getting closer to an agreement at the U.N. on even tougher new financial sanctions. Approval would require a change of posture by both China and Russia, who have blocked previous resolutions.

Now that there has been a verdict and sentencing, there is also talk of sending an envoy to the North, possibly Al Gore, who leads Current TV -- the organization for whom the two journalists were working. Some experts predict that now that the Korean court -- from which there is no legal appeal -- has convicted the women, the North would be open to releasing them. 

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North Korea wants money and Barack will give it to them in order to buy their friendship. Sucker! Let Japan and China buy them out.

Obama was a failure BEFORE day one. If you count his “Office of the President Elect” stint, we are now in the sixth month of the benevolent reign of Barack Hussein Obama and here is what he has done-
9.4% unemployment and still rising
April housing starts lowest on record
Gasoline prices rising, over $3 per gallon in the Midwest
N. Korea tests and atom bomb and guided missile

So what does Barack do? He takes ANOTHER vacation at taxpayer expense. Nice to see him spending so much stimulus money in FRANCE!

The blame Bush for everything excuse is getting a little tiresome. When will Obama be held responsible for today’s serious issues?
I like the strategy of sending Gore to North Korea.  If he can start talking to them about Global warming and really confuse them with all the constantly changing global warming terms, phrases, statistics,and theories, they just might get so flustered that they'll let the 2 women go and stop making nuclear weapons just to get Gore to return home and out of their country.  It's got a real chance of working.
On the one hand, it is understandable to honour a foreign, sovereign nation's rule of law no matter how much we disagree with it. These two reporters knew the risks associated with the assignment. Perhaps they were banking on North Korea being forgiving because they are young, female, and attractive. But on the other hand, this smacks of kidnapping. I'd like to know if they actually crossed into NK.

Somebody needs to explain to the NK government that the one sure way to keep from having a global can of whoop a** opened on your country is to stop poking the rest of the world in the eye. Frankly, I'm about ready to pop the top on that can myself. The world has enough problems already that are far more pressing than this sabre rattling. If North Korea wants to shut itself off from the rest of the world; fine. But if they want to continue this provocation, I say spank em' hard and fast and send them to their corner quickly. Get the nukes, the reporters, and heck; even the USS Pueblo back.

What North Korea wants and what North Koreans need are two entirely different things. The government is acting like a petulant child. Treat it like one.
This is a very important development, but please change the country from Iran to North Korea.
[Approval would require a change of posture by both China and Russia, who have blocked previous resolutions.]
--It is not too much of a wonder that the UN is viewed as somewhat to pretty much completely ineffective.  Imagine if one Senator or Congress(wo)man could veto a bill, nothing would get done.  I mean, a 60 vote hurdle (which I support) seems tough enough for our "leaders."
North Korea and it's pymgy leader is always looking for attention. I really hope this Pygmy, Little Kim, gets just what he's looking for. How long can he rob his country a decent existence?
I really do hope if and when son takes offer if the son is as pro-Westerm in his style he can bring North Korea back into the real world.
North Korea has stripped Obama of his respect. They are on a mission of power, parading their arsenal through their streets every weekend. It's a great show.

Obama, listen up. Stop playing the dummy you are. Get some advice on what to do with N. Korea and Iran.
And get it fast. FAST!

Here is where Bush FAILED. Kim was begging for attention saying he had nukes and Bush ignored him. Instead it was Sadamm. An easy fight so he thought.

Kim needs to be taken out. He is EVIL.
To bad doing any with clandestine forces would be against the rules.  I would love to see a third party hire mercanaries to get the job done - get the reporters out of there.  I doubt that would happen.
Little Kim of North Korea is like a little spoiled brat who keeps whining and throwing hissy fits just to get attention and to try to get more aid for his wrecked economy.  He's like a little bad chihuahua who's barking constantly for attention and whose bark is worse than it's impotent bite.

The only way to get Little Kim to behave is to get China to stop backing him up.  About time to confront China's support of the little tyrant.  Oh yeah that Tyrant Bush trashed our economy and had to borrow lots of money from China so now we don't have the leverage to confront China anymore.

In Obama we Trust!
Go Lakers!
It is truly sad indeed to hear about the two reporters who were convicted in North Korea, but what the hell were they doing there. The lion feeds on the slow and stupid. The lion will eat without asking for permission.
I am really starting to hate the North Koreans. They are very very lucky I am not in charge because I would give the go ahead to nuke them! But, that would probably only make things even worse so it's probably a good thing that Obama is the president.

Personally, I think that President Obama is doing a great job. He inherited an incredible mess when he assumed the presidency. In the short few months he has been in that office, he has already done a lot more good than Bush did during his eight years.

The main thing keeping Obama from being even more successful is the resistance he keeps getting from the Republicans; and some bad Democrats...

The main problem with North Korea is their leaders. It would be nice to somehow kill them off because I don't believe the North Korean people as a whole are bad.
North Korea has decided to test the strength of Obama. I think they see an opportunity to negotiate with a weaker President for some kind of payout.
It is truly sad indeed to hear about the two reporters who were convicted in North Korea, but what the hell were they doing there. The lion feeds on the slow and stupid. The lion will eat without asking for permission.
Pacheck, Huntington Beach, Ca. (Sent Monday, June 08, 2009 12:55 PM)
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Clearly you don't read or listen to the news or you would have never asked such a question.
How long can he rob his country a decent existence?
Beverly in Chicago (Sent Monday, June 08, 2009 12:46 PM)
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I don't know?

About how long have Daley and Stroger been cheating honest people out of jobs and money in Chicago and Crook County?

Paid any parking meters downtown or rode the Skyway recently Beverly?

Big Al
>>>North Korea has decided to test the strength of Obama. I think they see an opportunity to negotiate with a weaker President for some kind of payout.
DG, Houston, TX (Sent Monday, June 08, 2009 1:13 PM)
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Yeah.  And G.W.Bu--sh-- was so strong and solid that he practically ignored them for 8 years, even when they were screaming that they had nukes and daring him to attack them.

And you folks STILL wonder why no one is listening to you anymore.

http://jawillie.blog.com
Personally, I think that President Obama is doing a great job.
The main problem with North Korea is their leaders. It would be nice to somehow kill them off because I don't believe the North Korean people as a whole are bad.  
Mean Don (Sent Monday, June 08, 2009 1:08 PM)
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Wow!

Pop foreign leaders who don't agree with the Obama Administration?

I guess that was illegal for Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, but it is OK for Barack, he alone understands what is best for America.

"TOP SECRET:

Memo to Panetta:

Burn After Reading.

There is a stone in my shoe in North Korea.

B.H.O."
Houston,,,we have a problem,seems that one of our own thinks that Obama is weak,and Little GW shows strength.While Little just paid off Little Kim everytime he rattled GW cage,see GW isn't bright enough to speak to other leaders,it's hard to get your point across when the only words you use are,AND,THE,US,THEM,AHHH,AHHH,AHHH,WELL,AHHH we have Nukes.Hard to take a country leader serious when they speak at a 5 grade level.Unless you are addressing 5 graders,so maybe Kim and GW had more in common,in there minds, then I thought.Eric,,like how you twisted Bad doggie into your post,doubt if doggie will notice.
Obama is an appeaser.  He will give NK all kinds of stuff to get them to shut up and then in 3 yrs they will do it again and he will give more stuff.  

NK lauch a missile over Japan.  Japan should have attacked the country as an act of war and then we would have been obligated to join one of our allies.  This would have been completely legit on Japans part and kept the political heat off of us.  

Before all you lefties start yelling about Japan starting the war when it was just a test answer this little question first.  If Isreal would have did the same test over several Mid East countries and they would have attacked Isreal because of it would you have a problem with that.
I'm surprised they went so easy on the journalists.  One of the journalists sister, Lisa Ling, did a big expose' on NK for National Geographic a few years ago. NK pulled out all the stops for Ms Ling and the NG crew, showing great hospitality- granted it was propaganda, but betraying hospitality in many asian cultures is seen as a very serious offense.  While Lisa and her team had "handlers" pointing them in the "right" direction, the NG crew also used hidden cameras and a little subterfuge to get footage of the hell that most NK's live in.  I don't remember if it was the Lisa Ling special, or a different NK expose' show that revealed (probable) cannibalism amongst the NK's.  In any event, I thought the sins of the older sister surely would have been visited on the younger sister journalist here.  She's lucky.
God help any foreigner from seeing the starvation and depravation in North Korea.  Gore should also make a visit to China before going to North Korea.
North Korea has stripped Obama of his respect. They are on a mission of power, parading their arsenal through their streets every weekend. It's a great show.

Obama, listen up. Stop playing the dummy you are. Get some advice on what to do with N. Korea and Iran.
And get it fast. FAST!


Fortunate Son (Sent Monday, June 08, 2009 12:48 PM)
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lol...are you serious!!!  
Believe all you want that Obama is weak.  He is not and you will see the results.  No matter what the president does, there are those haters that will find fault no matter what.  Mainly because they don't do any research.  They just shoot off their mouths.  It's a shame that so many people of the Republican brand, let Rush do their thinking and talking.  Red Neck Racist Supreme?
Bush spent 1/3 of his two terms on vacation and he didn't get security briefings on Sunday's at all so when Barack gets to that point, y'all can be asses about his vacation time, not until then.  And at least Obama gets security on Sunday's, works past 8pm and we will see but I am willing to bet he is not going to spend almost 1,000 days on vacation like bush did.
To blame Obama for unemployment, housing starts,
gas prices, and Korea bomb and missle tests, since he has taken office in Jan. is just ignorant.
North Korea  will only change policies when China squeezes oil and food supplies to them.
NONSENSE THAT THESE TWO SO-CALLED JOURNALISTS WILLING PUT THEMSELVES INTO THE SITUATION WHICH NOW ALLOWS NORTH KOREA TO "EXTORT" THE USA.

WHAT WILL OBAMA END UP "GIVING" TO THE NORTH KOREAN MADMAN TO OBTAIN THE RELEASE OF THESE TWO???
Robert Underdunk Terwilliger, Springfield, USA (Sent Monday, June 08, 2009 12:23 PM)

Another gripe, gripe,gripe with no alternative suggestions as to what to do instead. Typical.
Kim Jong Ill and Al Gore?

A wimp and a blimp.
North Korea  will only change policies when China squeezes oil and food supplies to them.  Smith, Reno, Nv (Sent Monday, June 08, 2009 2:22 PM)
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Like Obama is doing to Americans now?

Been to the gas station or grocery store lately?


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