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First thoughts: In Obama we trust?

Posted: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:26 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Ali Weinberg
*** In Obama we trust? Maybe now we understand why the RNC was so fired up about last night’s town hall. President Obama, while peppered with tough questions about the issue, got an hour on national TV to make the case that he can be trusted to reform the health-care system. Remember, it's not about winning the debate on whether his way is RIGHT; it's about securing the TRUST of skeptical Americans that he'll take their concerns and go about this with care. And on that score, this is where we probably get why so many of the president's opponents were upset. This format was in the president's wheelhouse. Whether you agree with him or not, it's obvious he has a deep grasp of the issue, and no doubt he only helped his cause. Of course, we don't yet know how many folks watched. But the perception that he got into the details most likely is only a help to him, even if those details become unpopular. By the way, it doesn't appear the president committed any news, though some noted that he continued to leave open the door for supporting a tax on some health-care benefits. Also health care remains in today’s news as liberals and progressives rally for reform on Capitol Hill at 11:30 am ET.

*** Social conservatism hits rock bottom? These certainly haven't been the best of times for social conservatives. Democrats control the White House and Congress. The problems at home and abroad have drowned out social issues (with congressional Republicans deciding to focus their fire on the economy). And now here's perhaps the biggest embarrassment: In less than two weeks, two of their own -- John Ensign and Mark Sanford -- have admitted to committing adultery. Just five years after it helped re-elect George W. Bush, has social conservatism in American politics hit rock bottom? If so, what does that mean for a political party that has largely tied its fortunes to this movement? As we've said before, infidelity is a bipartisan affair, but Republicans tend to receive more criticism because they more often portray themselves as the party protecting family values and marriage. Yet what happens when one can make the argument that the highest-profile example of family values and marriage -- right now -- isn’t a Republican or social conservative, but rather the man who resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.? The issue for the GOP at this point is convincing grassroots social conservatives not to lose faith. As one of the leading social conservative voices in the party lamented to the New York Times, “I think there is somewhat of an identity crisis in the Republican Party,” said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council,  “Are they going to be a party that attracts values voters, and are they going to be the party that lives by those values?”

Video: Governor Mark Sanford, R-SC, resigned today as chair of the Republican Governors Association after admitting his affair with an Argentinean woman. Rachel Maddow is joined by Daily Beast contributor Mark McKinnon to assess the impact on the Republican Party.

*** More on Sanford and 2012: Sticking with Sanford and his troubles, there’s lots of analysis this morning focusing on the bad six months the GOP has had -- particularly for Republicans who have tested the 2012 waters (see yesterday's First Read). A few things to watch for: One, who will pick up the mantle of the pure economic conservative/free market libertarian? Two, will grassroots social conservatives start expressing publicly their outrage over Sanford and Ensign and others and become harder to galvanize for the Republican Party as a whole? Three, do folks like Mitt Romney and Haley Barbour end up getting a big perception bump going into 2012 as the establishment looks for grownups who have been around the national political block before? Speaking of Barbour, he was in New Hampshire yesterday, and today he’ll be in Des Moines, IA for a GOP dinner. He’s an extraordinary fundraiser and helped lead the GOP’s comeback to power in 1994, when he served as RNC chairman. On the other hand, he’s a former lobbyist and Washington insider, as well as an older white male from the Deep South. By the way, thanks to the Sanford resignation, Barbour now has more excuses to travel nationally as he's now chair of the Republican Governors Association.

*** The “Thugocracy”? The news doesn't look encouraging this morning in Iran. Many experts and media reports are now noting what appears to be the new inevitable: that the Iranian regime's crackdown has been a success. That said, this morning, Iran is not a country that is being viewed as a theocracy -- but a good ol’ fashioned dictatorship. Richard Haas of the Council on Foreign Relations (who's not exactly a rhetorical bomb-thrower) called the regime a "thugocracy." And to add evidence to its dictatorship tendencies, check out the L.A. Times report indicating that the TRUE heir apparent to the Supreme Leader is his son. That's how dictatorships act, not republics or democracies. So if the reality on the ground is now that the uprising has been beaten back, what's next for U.S. policy? Right now, it appears any efforts the Obama administration had wanted to make are now on hold (or in the words of one official "on ice"). Robert Gibbs all but said any unilateral efforts were being pushed aside. There is still an open hand on the multi-lateral front (P5+1), but that's always been the case.



Video: There were more reports Wednesday of forceful crackdowns on Iranian protesters as the country's leadership said election results will not be overturned. NBC's Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel reports.

Immigration returns: In the past few days, the issues of health care and Iran have dominated Obama’s agenda and public statements. But today, he turns his attention to the thorny subject of immigration reform, as he meets with bipartisan members of Congress at 2:00 pm ET to discuss this subject. The meeting comes a day after Sen. Chuck Schumer (D), who chairs the Senate subcommittee that would write any immigration reform legislation, laid out his principles, and after immigration advocates pressed the Obama White House to make immigration reform a priority -- this year. In a conference call, Bishop Jaime Soto of Sacramento said that the meeting will tell them whether the White House is serious about enacting comprehensive immigration reform or whether it's timid. "Delaying immigration reform will be a mistake," he said, arguing that the country can no longer accept the status quo. The event is a reminder of how this issue has become so difficult for members of both parties. The president won Latinos 2 to 1, has powerful Democratic majorities, and yet admits he might not have the votes to pass comprehensive immigration reform. After today, will Obama use his political capital to make immigration reform happen this year or next?

*** Add energy to the mix, too: Also on the agenda is the issue of energy. As NBC’s Mike Viqueira reported last night, the House is now on course to take up its energy bill on Friday, after a deal was struck between Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the chairman of the Agriculture Committee, Colin Peterson. The pair appeared at a press conference to announce their agreement. Peterson, Viq notes, had been an influential holdout as he sought the best possible deal for farmers. And today, Pelosi, other Dem leaders, and Al Gore will appear at a press rally at 2:00 pm ET.

*** The rest of Obama’s day: In addition to his meeting on immigration, Obama (along with the first lady) participates in a service event at 10:00 am ET at Fort McNair. Per the White House, they will “join hundreds of congressional family members and five national nonprofit organizations … to prepare 15,000 backpacks with books, healthy snacks, frisbees and other items for the children of servicemen and women.” In the evening, the First Couple and Vice President Biden will host a luau on the South Lawn for members of Congress and their families. One other item on today’s agenda: Biden and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood will announce that states have already met the goal of obligating 50% of the highway funds in the stimulus by the June 29 deadline.

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Bernanke's tough day? It could get ugly at a House committee hearing today featuring Fed Chair Ben Bernanke, and the markets could very well over-react to what happens in that hearing room. The issue of what role the government played in pushing Bank of America to buy Merrill Lynch is going to be front and center. And the criticism of the Republican-appointed Bernanke is going to come from Republicans, while Democrats may sit silent or quietly defend him. We'll see.

*** 2009 watch: And also on Capitol Hill today, New Jersey GOP gubernatorial nominee Chris Christie will appear at 11:00 a.m. ET before the Democratically-controlled House Judiciary Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law to testify about million-dollar no-bid monitoring contracts he awarded while U.S. attorney. Per the Star-Ledger, the panel seeks to reform such “deferred prosecution agreements,” like the one Christie gave his former boss John Ashcroft, “worth as much as $52 million,” for monitoring a medical device maker Christie was investigating for Medicare fraud. Democrats are desperately hoping that something comes out of today’s hearing to help the very vulnerable Jon Corzine.

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Obama gets off teleprompter, and a disaster occurs. What a poor performance by The Obama last night.
Social conservatism hits rock bottom?

I hate to break it to you, but there is a social conservative in the WHITE HOUSE.

He has done nothing about DADT, which, despite the pretzel logic of the obama worshippers, he HAS the power to reverse as Commander in Chief.  Need proof?  Ask yourself-how did it get written into law in the first place.  That's right, politics fans, Bill Clinton signed it as an executive order in the face of fierce political opposition.  Polls at the time showed that 70% of people opposed having gays serve in the military.  Thanks to the dialogue opened by that signing, the polls have reversed, and now 70% support having gays serve openly in the military.  (These numbers are on the gallup site).

So what's the problem?

As to DOMA-while I agree that the president does not have the power to overturn that law on his own, he DID NOT have to submit a brief supporting it.  That he chose to do so speaks volumes.

If that ain't a social conservative, I don't know what is.

As to Sanford, I have the same feeling about this that I had about the Edwards coverage-it should have been left alone.  If my appeals for privacy in private lives are not enough, look at what it did for the President's coverage of his ABC lovefest-it knocked it out of the news.  My state's newspaper front page was all about Sanford-Obama got page 3.

Just please, PLEASE, promise that if there is ever a hint, whiff, or rumor about the president you will spare us the coverage.  He does have young children, and WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW.
Bill Fairfax: And oh by the way, it's supposed to be 'global warming' not 'America warming.' So exactly how is this intrusive legislation going to influence the behavior of big time polluters like China, India, etc?  


Well, that's the $2 trillion dollar question right there. And I'm sure it will be answered during the public hearings and during the floor debate for the energy bill. Well, if there were any public hearings and floor debates for the energy bill.
'Didn't commit any news last night'?  I'd say the comment that stopping treatments for old people for whom death is nearer than the rest of us is pretty newsworthy.   My parents are in their eighties and that pretty much scared the hell out of me.  
Why didn't that get your notice, First Read? (Sent Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 AM)
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It isn't newsworthy because that isn't exactly what was said. If you listened to the entire conversation you might understand better what the real issue is.

The insurance companies are already making these decisions right now.
With that said, Governor Sanford, how do you solve a problem like Maria?  Because I am a cynic, let me just say - I think she is pregnant.  

Clara Kansas City, MO (Sent Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:51 AM)
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I'll put some money on that one.

http://jawillie.blog.com
Healthcare is just so dead, especially after last night with Obama's awful townhall meeting.
Andy West, Illinois (Sent Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:51 AM)
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What ever gets you through your day... keep on dreaming!
Money Matters (Sent Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:39 AM)

And most every piece of major data that comes out doesn't support those predictions. Bernanke is responsible for printing trillions of dollars and pumping that money into the world economy. It's destroyed the value of the dollar to the point many other countries don't want to base the world economy on the dollar anymore. Bernanke has a lot to answer for.
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Hey Money
Just how many of those dollars would would you not have had the President not done anything at all?

Figure it it out genius it could be be a lot worse for value of your dollar now.  
With that said, Governor Sanford, how do you solve a problem like Maria?  Because I am a cynic, let me just say - I think she is pregnant


That's an interesting take.  I was struck in his press conference at how much it pained him to hurt the lover, and the hurt to his wife was incidental.  I think he's just truly in love and can't think straight, something we usually get out of our system by the time we're 25 or so.  (Yes, I'm still in love with my husband of 17 years, but that swooning inability to think straight just because you're in love has been in the rear view mirror a long time).
Chis - IL: [Time magazines] It is a business you know. A for profit business.


Maybe we should nationlaize the media. Take the profit out of it. It will be cheaper and we'll get better news.
Chis - IL: [Time magazines] It is a business you know. A for profit business.


Maybe we should nationlaize the media. Take the profit out of it. It will be cheaper and we'll get better news.
Sounds like repugnant one Christie has some explaining to do today.  I hope that Eric Holder prosecutes this no-bid contract criminal and goes after all the no-bid contracts that Criminals Bush and Cheney threw to their repugnant one business pals.  We need to find out how much taxpayer money was wasted the past 8 years by Criminals Bush and Cheney and we should go after the firms who were overpaid and get our money back.

We can see how President Obama loves our military families as he participates in a backpack stuffing event for the kids.  So unlike the past war criminal who just wanted to kill our brave soldiers for his political favor.  Michelle is turning out to be a really super First Lady.

If the media had the story on Adulterer Sanford's sordid affair down in Argentina and sat on it for many months then one must wonder how many other heldup stories are out there to embarass the sinning repugnant ones.  I hope there are lots of them.  I seriously doubt that Adulterer Sanford was crying on Maria's shoulder or tan lines while he was down there.  He said he was working on trying to save his marriage, yeah great job Adulterer Sanford for going down to Argentina to fool around with your mistress for almnost a week thinking you did it in secret.  I'm so glad that the story of his perfidy may not yet be over as now he has to prove he didn't abuse taxpayer money for his sinful trysts in Argentina.  Yeah he must have said he was going down to check out the beef.  He was checking out the wrong kind of heffer for that.

Resign Now Adulterer Sanford!
MSNBC headline today: BREAKING NEWS: New jobless claims rise unexpectedly to 627,000; continuing claims up slightly

Unexpectedly?  

Obama has been in office over 6 months (if you count his phony “Office of the President Elect” stunt). Notwithstanding that the US Constitution has no provision whatsoever for the Office of the President Elect, so pressing were the issues Barack needed to address that he wanted a bill on his desk immediately to fix the crisis Bush supposedly created. None of the current problems are the result of the Democrat controlled congress mind you.

After authorizing another TRILLION dollars, on top of the TARP money already authorized, what has Barack wrought: Unemployment over 10%, gas over $3/gal, manufacturing sector in worst slump since end of WWII, April housing starts lowest on record.

Bush is gone. Obama and Pelosi are running the show and the country is going down the toilet even faster! The “Blame Bush” excuse isn’t helping. When will Obama EVER be held accountable for ANYTHING?
FR...shame on you for turning an important issue like healthcare into a political scorecard...btw who pays the bulk of the msnbc staffs health insurance? TARP queen GE does and you guys should acknowledge that you have cadillac insurance that is subsidized out the wazoo...shame on you
It's about time that Social Conservatism hits rock bottom and keeps on sinking.  It's time for these clueless crusaders of immorality to realize this is the United States of America and intolerance will not be tolerated here in our secular democracy.  Time for the zealots of puritanism to go get a life and stop sticking their perverted noses in everyone's bedroom business!

Long Live Freedom of Choice!
Sorry, but I think Gov. Sanford was set up and he seemed like he was really sincere in his apology.
[[Just how many of those dollars would would you not have had the President not done anything at all? ]]
 
Beverly in Chicago


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Interpreters!!!!
Another one bites the dust. Another flag waving christian creep who cheated on his wife and voter.
In the Republicans we "don't trust", and will never trust. The Republican Party is finally over. Thank God, they drove this country almost into the ground. We will dig our way out, but we will "never" "ever" forget.
*** The rest of Obama’s day: In addition to his meeting on immigration, Obama (along with the first lady) participates in a service event at 10:00 am ET at Fort McNair. Per the White House, they will “join hundreds of congressional family members and five national nonprofit organizations … to prepare 15,000 backpacks with books, healthy snacks, frisbees and other items for the children of servicemen and women.”
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Now republicans take notes. This is what the true meaning of "giving" your service and not deligating someone else to do what you "should" be doing. Get out your Bibles and find the scripture that applies to this.

Shouldn't take you anytime to find it, you should know it already. What's amazing to me is that the president hasn't injected religion into politics  he "is" actually leading by example...your turn to do the same.
This is the second post within a day in which First Read has talked about a deal on climate control legislation without even hinting at what the deal includes.

Try to remember some of us are interested in the law, not just the legislative process.
MSNBC headline today: BREAKING NEWS: New jobless claims rise unexpectedly to 627,000; continuing claims up slightly - Pete Roleum, Detroit, MI USA

Anyone that can think knows that news was not unexpected. The stimulus has failed. Obama and Biden were wrong. What we have now is more unemployment and a huge bill to pay.

You cannot spend nearly $800 billion on something and not have any results. Obama needs to pay for that mistake, and he will, in the midterm elections next year.


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