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Forgive Sanford?

Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:35 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Danielle Weisberg
In Meghan McCain's most recent Daily Beast contribution, she writes a blog entitled, "Forgive Mark Sanford,” in which she makes the argument that "sex scandals ... are private matters that don't affect public policy and shoot down rising political stars."

McCain strives to draw a line for politicians and privacy. The daughter of Sen. John McCain argues, "At the end of the day, a politician’s job is to fix our country and take care of the states they represent.”

Critics would argue that Sanford, in fact, wasn’t taking care of the state he represents. He’s governor of a state of more than four million people, disappeared for four days, during which time neither staff nor his family could reach him, and it’s unclear he left instructions for a chain of command.

McCain makes the point that "what goes on in Governor Sanford's personal life...just isn't relevant to his role as a public official."

But the Sanford affair moves beyond just salacious details of sex and lustful, private e-mails that are the stuff of cable ratings and a pulpit for critics and the righteous. This does go to serving constituents. How can that be done if the public official isn’t even reachable?

McCain argues that "we have to stop requiring that our politicians live at such a high level of moral superiority, as if they are infallible creatures."

There’s a case for that, but it’s tougher to make when a public official lets an affair take precedence over his job.

McCain also takes a shot at Sanford’s wife, Jenny Sanford, for her statement. McCain called them a "long, Gospel-quoting press release."

But some women would argue that they projected a different image than the scorned wife standing beside her politician husband as he recanted his sins. Jenny Sanford kicked her husband out, and instead of creating a media blitz of a press conference, released her comments that accomplished just what she wished for, to maintain her dignity, self-respect, and basic sense of right and wrong.

"I don't know if it’s the fact that I am younger, or that I just have a more open-minded view of politicians and sex, but it's of very little concern to me who elected officials sleep with," McCain wrote.

But it's of great deal of concern to many, when those politicians abandon their duties to do it.

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First Read; But it's of great deal of concern to many, when those politicians abandon their duties to do it.


Didn't seem to be a problem for the Left when Clinton was doing it with Monica. Making policy with Arafat while Monica was fully engaged if memory serves us right. Had a parade of Leftists making the rounds on the news stations telling us it was no problem at all for the country.

You guys need to grow up.
this just shows how little she thinks about things in general. you can have an affair as long as you still discharge your duties, which is not what happen in sanfords case. the man went missing for days his 3 am phone call would have gotten an answering machine. what if he had been killed in an accident what then? this is not the judgement of a good leader.
Wow, I love that you are finally showing your bias so openly and honestly.  Seriously, though...Bill Clinton was fooling around with Monica in the Oval Office during "business hours."  Do you really believe that he was taking care of the people's business while enjoying that cigar?  

And actually...Jenny Sanford may have started out in a dignified manner when this whole news story exploded, but she lost a lot of that when she made those comments to the A.P.  Not so dignified.  

All I'm saying here is that your comparison of a "normal" political sex scandal and Mark Sanford really a distinction without a meaningful difference...sleazy behavior is sleazy behavior...and if you're engaging in an extramarital affair, it is affecting your performance on the job in some manner.  Period.  
Meghan,it's your youth,sweetie, your youth!  Keep living and have some children.Then you will understand exacatly why Mrs. Sanford did what she did.
How magnanimous, retrospectively speaking.  I think McCain is totally on message with trying to conform her party from the 'family values' hypocrisy tank; but I find it a bit hollow given the greater picture of personal responsibility and accountability.

People should be able to forgive; point taken, but people should not villify others for their own transgressions - that is just dumb and opens the door for the exact level of backlash that is occuring now.
She's just forgiving her father.
I agree that an affair by an elected official is not egregious enough to warrant his resignation. But leaving the country for 5 days with no communication puts his decision making into serious question. Based on his recent actions and statements, I have doubts that Sanford's current mental state is suitable for governing a state. Also, any official who goes on record blasting another politician for sexual misconduct and demanding resignation, as Sanford did with the Clinton-Lewinski scandal, should follow his own advice and leave office.
Oh, that is fine and dandy to forgive and forget now that the Rethugs are rocked by a sex scandal. All of a sudden, it is a private matter. I wish the Repubs had been so benevolent to Clinton and Hillary before they splattered the intimate details of his daliance with Monica all over the internet.

Hypocrit Sanford should resign and spare his wife, children, and us any more coverage of this tawdry tale.
ok i agree with you Meghan, but i think your opinion is clouded because your father was involved with your mother, while he was still married. if your dad had not been still married, would you have the same opinoin?

Maybe not!!!
just think if your father had not cheated on his previous wife with your mother, your may not have been born.
Meghan is off the mark on this one.  The personal  part should be private, but to abandon his duties as govenor with no way to get contacted...that's just wrong and should be an issue for consideration by the people of South Carolina and the US if he was considering running for president in 2012.
If his wife takes him back... she's as MESSED UP as he is!  Throw his a@@ out like last weeks TRASH!
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From earlier...

FR - ok not getting it why do NEW poster not have the opportunity to have their posts shown? I post on other sights, never have an issue!You have Feisty, No Bo, and others here that post every day, not knocking their posts, ok No Bo has issues, but some new thoughts and ideas might be pertinent! Please stop the censorship of others that are new!
Try the truth (Sent Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:22 AM)
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From yesterday...

~Cathy, nice thing about FR is they welcome everyone don’t get discouraged… if you read daily you’ll notice I try to hold Mark & Domenico’s feet to the fire – as for Chuck T he’s a big shot now… so poor Mark & Domenico are trying to hold it together…

Like they say here in Chicago there are two seasons… winter & construction and I like to think FR is temporarily under construction! Yes I’m l@@king at you two! Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
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From last week...

Chuck – Mark & Domenico – thanks for another great week … but I do feel more like I’m playing ‘beat the clock’ around here rather than blogging! You guys GOTTA get your rhythm back! Pleeeeeze! Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
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***QUESTION for Mark/Domenico???****

Speaking of vacations… if things here @ FR are running like this NOW… what’s going to HAPPEN when one of you takes some well deserved time off?  Geeze guys… school’s out for the summer…can’t you find a couple of interns to help out? I realize G.E. has some $$$ problems but come on…  Like I said before I would be happy to help you guys out! Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
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To Try the Truth... HANG in here!  I'm doing my part to ask the guys to step up the pace around here... btw… are you still giving Jake Tapper over at ABC cr@p??

To: FF Crew…I’m not piling it on here – you guys by far have the best forum out there & I want to make sure you keep it that way!  I’m aware you have other responsibilities but putting up threads with 0 comments is not constructive – might as well leave the current ones open for more comments… just my little old 2 cents…
McCain makes the point that "what goes on in Governor Sanford's personal life...just isn't relevant to his role as a public official."
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However, Sanford isn't keeping his sex life private.  He's making news out of it,telling us a lot more than we want to know.  People also hold Sanford to a higher standard because it's one that he himself has set with his attacks on Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal.  Sanford touts "family values" but values his family very little, apparently.

Meghan McCain's own father is guilty of mistreating his first wife horribly. No one says that these adulterers can't be forgiven.  But we can't stop the consequences of their misdeeds: a lack of trust and a loss of respect.



Sanford's got misplaced priorities and wouldn't be reimbursing the state for his escapades had he not been found out.  That's the real problem - abuse of power.
I don't care if a politician has an affair, it's none of my business.  As this article rightfully points out, the affair isn't the point.  There are two salient points here that have nothing to do with why he was doing what he was doing but rather how he was doing it.

1) The hypocrit factor: this is a man who preached a 'holier than thou' mantra of 'family values' and castigated those who had affairs.  As it turns out, he was castigating others while doing the very thing he was railing against.

2) He did it on 'company time' and it affected his job performance.  As Governor, you don't just disappear and lie to your staff as to your whereabouts. Turns out, this wasn't the first time he did it.

This is why the Republicans catch more grief when they do something like this than the Democrats.  They, the Republicans, preach at (yes, I meant 'at') us about 'family values', 'conservative financial principles' and religion, etc.  But when it comes to practicing those values, they always seem to come up short.

They tell us how much they are for the little guy and only want to make sure everyone prospers but then they pass legislation that only helps the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

The truly sad part of this is all of the people who they couldn't care less about, the people they have no respect for and the people who will be most hurt by their policies still believe and vote for them and then tell us who aren't hoodwinked that we are the stupid ones.

Sad, truly sad.
Megan can't help it. Her parent's example was such that she now holds loose moral ideas of right, and wrong. Perhaps she will be guided to proper opinions.
Of course Megan McCain has to say this, afterall her father had an affair with her mother while he was married to someone else. In addition, if it doesn't matter who a politician sleeps with, then why all of the uproar over Clinton by the Republicans?  I agree with her that it doesn't matter who a politician sleeps with, but it doesn't matter for ANY politician, not just for Republicans.  I don't care who Sanford slept with, just as I don't care who Clinton slept with.  I care about the job they are doing. Clinton was doing a great job and that was a huge problem for Republicans, they couldn't stand tht the president was successful and couldn't bring him down so they pounced on the affair thing.  Also, the only time it matters is if those politicians try to tell American citizens how to live their lives and but their noses into the private lives of Americans, then it is just fine for Americans to but into their lives.  If Republican tells us that we can't have an abortion or can't marry a same sex partner, then we can tell Republicans that they can't cheat on their wife, right?
I wonder if Sanford wishes he could be Muslim, and have both women as wives?
Don't know where McCain is coming from, but she's smoking some serious stuff if she thinks that man's activities don't matter...and under the same logic, how in the world to you take a shot at the wife in one breath and ask for forgiveness for Sanford in the next?

You are correct Meghan people are not infallible creatures and there is no way to separate the Govenor's person from his duties.

You ever heard of EAP (Employee Assistance Program)?  Do you know why it exists?  Because people get affected...and what affects them affects what they do.  It provides counseling and help and other services to try and handle those things so that they do not have an adverse affect on you.

Their work as public servants are not as robots.  There is not what they 'do' and then 'them'...they are housed in one person.

Inversing your own logic, your Father's wife then had no business speaking at the Republican National Convention and your family had no business being on the trail with him.  If your family life doesn't matter when things go bad, it should have the same affect when a nice, cozy little unit as well.  

You can't have it both ways.  
Meghan McCain's appearance on Bill Maher's show was embarassing. If she was not the wealthy daughter of a Senator, would anybody care what she says. As far as Sanford is concerned , nobody is forcing him into these endless and changing apologies and confessions and it does bring into question his handling of his gubernatorial resposibilities only because of his being AWOL and the yet unproven possiblity of taxpayers funds being improperly used.
Meghan's main claim is that she is a GOP who doesn't practice abstinence.  Perhaps she should take some comfort that she has lot of company in the GOP.
As she would not answer a question about Ronald Reagan because his presidency was before she was born, she should not discuss Jenny Sanford until she, Meghan, becomes a mother.
Yes, we Dems said much the same about Clinton as Ms. McCain is saying now of Sanford.  And as I recall, the right, including Mr. Sanford who was a Representative at the time, were piously and self-rightiously calling for Clinton's resignation.  I'm not calling for Sanford to live up to anyones standards for his office but HIS OWN!  It is the Republicans who established this unreasonable standard.  Now that their caught in their own net, all of a sudden its an unreasonable standard.  Amazing!
First Read: "But it's of great deal of concern to many, when those politicians abandon their duties to do it."

Bogus Jill Ireland: "Didn't seem to be a problem for the Left when Clinton was doing it with Monica."
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Clinton didn't disappear for 4 days without telling anyone like Sanford did. Clinton also didn't advocate the imposition of religious moral codes on the secular public as Sanford and the other Republican hypocrites have done for years.  The holier-than-thou Repub motto should be "do as I say, not as I do."
Easier said than done.  Seems if a microphone is put in front of this guy he'll cause no end of hurt to his family because he can't shut up.

Like his dad Fred Sanford said, in his stand up routine:  "You gotta watch your act"  or something like that
Suck up to the big boys.
That'll get you all the space you want, and no criticism.
Jill Ireland, Washington State (Sent Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:52 PM)
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Um, President Clinton was IN the oval office. He could have been easily reached at any time. Also, to the best of my knowledge, President Clinton never pushed to have someone else investigated because of an allegation of an affair.

The problem with Sanford is not that he wasn't working. It isn't even that he left the country and couldn't be reached. It is that he left the country, couldn't be reached, and didn't tell people he would be unavailable.

Fortunately, nothing happened while he was gone. What if there had been a natural disaster that required deployment of the National Guard? What if quick decisions needed to be made about some urgent manner.

I'm fine with forgiving him for his affair. It simply doesn't matter. But affair or not, he abandoned his duties as Governor of SC and didn't hand over the reigns of responsibility. Imagine that we don't even know he had an affair. Imagine that we just know he was out of the country and unreachable and didn't tell anyone that he would be unavailable. I don't think the people of South Carolina are going to forgive him for that.

Y'all need to get over Bill Clinton. That is long ago settled. He was impeached but kept his office.
I am concerned Sanford has had a nervous breakdown. I worry this will not end well. On the road of this kind of betrayal is tragedy just ahead.
The hypocrisy. My God, the hypoocrisy
Since Daddy did a despicable thing to mommy maybe it is normal for them and, of course hush hush.

I wonder what she thinks about Clinton or Edwards and if they should have been allowed to keep their affairs private. Somehow I seem to get a whiff of hypocrisy with Ms. McCain.
Meghan McCain holds promise but she is only 24 years old (as she repeatedly stated during her appearance on Bill Maher, when she had trouble answering questions coherently.)  It's great that she's stating her opinion, but like many of us, she needs to think it through in a little more depth.

Am I wrong in thinking that Mark Sanford will buckle under the ever-increasing pressure from his political peers (not to mention his lovesickness,) resign his governorship, divorce or be divorced and marry his Argentinian love?  At this point, it seems like that's the way it's going.
Bill Clinton did not leave the country for 4 days without anyone knowing where he was and since he balanced the budget and left a surplus that GWB blew, I would say he did his job just fine and who was it that cost the country millions if not millions by investigating his affair for two years, thereby keeping it in the news?  Republican's.  Yes, their personal lives should be private but when you run on a holier than thou platform and then are outed as a dog and then you yourself keep it in the news, then are sowing what you are reaping.
Mathew Houston said it very well:
"1) The hypocrit factor: this is a man who preached a 'holier than thou' mantra of 'family values' and castigated those who had affairs.  As it turns out, he was castigating others while doing the very thing he was railing against."

Sanford was a chief cheerleader posturing for Clinton to resign. Stanford now staying in office is the height of hiporisy!

2) "He did it on 'company time' and it affected his job performance.  As Governor, you don't just disappear and lie to your staff as to your whereabouts. Turns out, this wasn't the first time he did it."

Add to this the public funds used for the Argentina trip an very likely for the NY trists and you have the real problem,

It is not the affair per se even though the emails and multiple apologies and additional admissions are great media fare. It is the misuse of public funds and the 5 days out of pocket that will bring Stanford down in the end.

Ms. McCain does reflect a younger person's view and she is certainly entitled to her opinion.
To me, it's all about TRUST.  Clearly, Governor Sanford's wife can't trust her husband.  Nor can his sons trust their Father.  Clearly, the people who attended his wedding (not to mention God) can't trust Governor Sanford's vows and promises. Cleary, this guy is NOT TRUSTWORTHY.  This has a direct bearing on the PUBLIC TRUST inherent in his role as Governor.  Bottom line:  The PUBLIC CAN'T TRUST GOVERNOR SANFORD.

And by the way, the public can't trust Bill Clinton either.

Ms. McCain, it was the GOP who greedily and purposefully sought and took on the mantle of guardians of Christianity and America because they told us they have a corner on the market of high moral standards and family values.  You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

And yes, we MUST hold our public officials to a much, much higher standard.  We have entrusted them with  our money and "general welfare".  If it was just his money and his welfare in question, no one would care.  But it's not.  It's ours.

Just like Clinton turned out to be a bum, Sanford turned out to be a bum.  He needs to be gone, baby, gone.

Let's see John McCain left his crippled wife for his teenage girlfriend
Meghan, I know you mean well, but we can not forget then Congressman Sanford pursuing impeachment proceedings against President Clinton for trying to keep his personal life private. The Clinton Presidency was then handcuffed for the remainder of it's term and indeed was part of the reason they could not get the support to go after bin Laden when it would have made sense.
It's like Sanford was preaching to the choir while singing off key.
Also, I wonder if you would feel the same way if it was your mother that your father abandoned when he was released as a POW, rather than his first wife...


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