I've noticed something very troubling as of recent.
There are an increasing number of late day posts that just out and out distort and misinform the masses.  My belief this is an organized action.  It's like clockwork.

FR stops updating around EST 4:00pm- 4:30pm, you'll notice the last story of the day, there is someone jumping on the first few posts with absolute garbage.  These are the same doofuses that parrot chain email talking points and have absolutely zero facts to back up their claims.

The reason for this I believe is that this is the most seen area of FR for the evening hours...people who browse this area after work will only scan the last few stories of the day, and their attention will be focused on the first few posts.

I'm sending out a bat signal to all my tried and true regulars.   Nash, Fiesty, Jawillie, Eagle, Clara, Anita, Eric, Chris, Tzarlaran, Ron, Ed, Pat,  and all others I've missed to work and watch this time of day so that we can combat outrageous claims and misinformation.

Don't let the dittoheads Game FR's board!!

Ahead of the first leg of his trip to Russia, Russia's President Dmitri Medvedev urged Obama to put aside their differences. "The new U.S. administration headed by President Obama is now demonstrating readiness to change the situation, and build more effective ... relations,"
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I love the smell of RESPECT in the morning...

Something that was not so readily given for a long time (about 8 years I think)

"We are ready for this. ... "Now is not the time to discover who is in a more difficult position or who is tougher. It is time to join efforts. We must improve our relations to solve multiple global problems through joint efforts."
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And it starts, there will be more world leader that will call for the joining of forces in order to survive Bush's destructive legacy.

Once again President Obama has to fix another bushwhacker diplomatic screwup as he heads to Russia to repair the damage done by the warmonger.  Some encouraging words from Putin Puppet Medvedev and it will be interesting to see how Obama's diplomacy works on repairing the damage from Clueless George's arrogance and ignorance.

Thats was such an awesome moment when Obama listened with compassion to Debby Smith's medical problems and promised to get her some help.  Such a moving moment, but we didin't get to see it live on MSNBC tv becuase Contessa just had to get on screen to yack.  Nope we had to wait until we could see reruns, except for those of us who switched to CNN (fox lite).  I sure hope MSNBC tv learns it's lesson to not bail out on Obama's townhall meetings as they'll lose viewers who go find it on other news channels.

Still that was a really powerful moment and he's got the Empathy that's been missing from the White House for 8 years.  It shows how Democrats care about the little people while the bleeding heart repugnant ones only whine for their rich and greedy base.

In Obama We Trust!

What-no mention of the Washing Post article on this 'stage managed event', (that's a quote from the article).

Seems like some professional reporters rediscovered journalistic ethics.  Maybe you guys could send a copy to the New York Times, if you find a copy yourselves.

Or, you could continue spouting Obamapropaganda.  Of course, that will just take you the way of the Grey Lady-which is down the drain.

>>>Don't let the dittoheads Game FR's board!!
Greg P. NW Indiana (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:24 AM)
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Actually, I think it's just maybe one or two dittoheads who post under 5 or 6 different IDs.  If you look at the writing styles of some of them, you'll note similarities.  Besides, I believe the "masses" are paying attention this time, which is why they're no longer paying attention to the "lunatic fringe".

>>>A new Quinnipiac poll has Obama’s job approval at 57%-33%.
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Of course no-bo-no-jo has a poll that will counter this, don't you no-bo?  After all, only Rasmussen has true numbers.  All other polls are too liberal. <end snark>

http://jawillie.blog.com

The righties are going to start spewing their garbage about the unemployment rate being the highest in 27 years when their hero was President. They argue that progressives/liberals are still perseverating that it was Bush's fault. Well they said the same things that it was Carter's fault. History repeats itself. If we as a country continue to cut taxes for the greedy 2%, allow minimal regulations of our markets, and no accountability for lobbyiest w/ quid pro quo w/ our career politicians. If people truly believe that radical means like a 21 century New Deal is not needed; prepare for lasting/long economic misery. Are we Rome yet?

I can't believe the staging of events is reported as news.

We are seeing pure manipulation through these staged events that are being promoted as honest gatherings.  Very disappointing.

72% of Americans want Healthcare Reform with a Public Option.
Pass Healthcare Reform with a Public Option!
There needs to be no negotiation or retreat!
If Blue Dog Dems and Republicans won't get on board then run them over and vote them out!

Off Topic but breaking news!

In a reversal of previous position the AMA now supports the public option and likes the program that congress has. Works for me! This is a very big deal folks as for many years AMA has led the chant of "Socialized Medicine" whenever a public option came up for discussion!

From CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/01/AMA.health.care.reform/index.html

BTW, Greg P. Good observation. I suspect that there are some paid trash talkers if your theory is correct.

What about that FR? When is this blog going to grow up and require registration for it posters?

I find it most annoying when people hide behind stupid alias when they post. Anyone else have a problem with the wackos with their phony IDs?

The WHOLE WORLD is WAITING for more work President Obama...

Please help the Main Streeters not the Wall Streeters

>>>I find it most annoying when people hide behind stupid alias when they post. Anyone else have a problem with the wackos with their phony IDs?

Ed, FW, TX (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:02 AM)

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First, thanks for the link and bringing us this info.  It's indeed good news that the AMA has "seen the light" (though the cynic in me is waiting for the other shoe to drop).  Second, I totally agree that there should be some kind of registration for posting.  That will totally eliminate people hiding behind phony IDs as well as cowards (righties) stealing other peoples ID and posting garbage.  Of course the downside of this is that it will chase the righties away since they can no longer hide their garbage.

Wait.  Did I say there was a downside?

http://jawillie.blog.com

So Obama meets privately with business leaders to make up lies about the success of the stimulus bill.  Someone explain the huge disjoint between all the jobs he's "saving" while watching 500,000 lose theirs every month.

These are real numbers, folks, not like the "what-if" figures generated by Obama's propaganda machine.  Oh, sorry, I forgot - its Bush's fault, blah, blah, blah.

Obama's magic is fading, and his spell is wearing off.  Soon he will be attacked by the very people who mistakenly elected him, and then we can try to repair the damage that his administation has brought about.

I love how Democrats care for the little people, too.  Although my definition of "care" doesn't seem to include raising taxes on the middle and low-income families in order to further their ambitions power grab.

Nice words from Russia. The Bear can sure croon. But what about stopping Iran from going nuclear or applying the breaks on North Korea, two areas where Russia has near-absolute control?

As for those who speak of Bush's warmongering, what do they make of this noise of increased troops in Afghanistan? What is a man of peace doing in a theatre of war? Still cleaning up Bush's mess? Or perhaps one man's wisdom is another man's mess.

I wish the Bear and the Eagle well.

yes, "Ed", we need to insure that no conflicting opinions ever surface on our hallowed website.  Perhaps a government committee could oversee the registration.  Make sure they check a box that says "I certify that I am 18 years or older", for we certainly wouldn't want our children to be warped by facts and logic.

Who will pay for this?  

I don't want to drown people in numbers, but if you divide the 10 year projected cost ($1.1 Trillion) by the number of people in the US (360 Million) the cost is expected to be ~$30,000 PER PERSON

That's an additional $3,000 per year, or $254/month - PER PERSON, not per taxpayer!  If you have a family of 4 - that's another $1,000/month!  (Remember that 1965 Medicare cost projections were off by a factor of 12 by 1990)  It will cost more than $1.1 Trillion!

We're broke!  California is progressive in social policy and tax policy, and they are issuing IOU's.  How long until the Feds have to do the same?

Jawillie-one more time.  The difference in the Rasmussen, Quinnipiac, and gallup polls can be explained very easily-it is the difference between polling 'likely voters', Rasmussen), 'registered voters', (Quinnipiac), and 'adults, (Gallup).

However, if you plot each on a graph, taking into account the number polled, and the margin of error, the slope is the same.

These are the respected polling organizations.  Many others, including those done by newspaper organizations which use independant polling organizations, do not apply correct standards.  It is important that the organization first recognize the percentages necessary to gain an accurate count-i.e., the percentages of self-identified democrats, republicans, leaners, and strictly independent voters.

Once the pool is established, questioning can begin.

Statistics is an inexact science, and a difficult one; however, the real issue is the misuse of data, or incorrect pooling, whether deliberate or inadvertant.

The best measure of accuracy of polling is in election results-this is done by college political science departments post election, and typically posted on the 'big three's' websites after the election.  

There were TWO polling organizations who got the numbers exactly right in last November's election.  One of them was Rasmussen.

Now do you understand why I respect that poll?

Did I miss where it was said that this woman was an employee of the DNC?

The New York Daily News: "President Obama played the comforter-in-chief Wednesday when a woman with kidney cancer, no insurance and little hope went looking for help at his health care summit. Obama gave an emotional Debby Smith a hug and a promise, but she also may have given him a hand by making herself a living argument for his health reform."

Gotta question:

Quite recently, Achmadinijad (sp?) visited Russia before the ink was dry on the phony Iranian election results.In the obligatory side-by-shot photo Medvedev looks absolutely ecstatic next to the Iranian preident. Which begs a few questions:

1. Where does Russia actually stand with regard to Iran? (In many ways, it's to Russia's interests politically and economically to placate those still in power in Iran).

2. But then too, Russia has to be just a wee bit nervous about the possibility of a Nuclear Iran. Are they?

3. Can we trust Russia with regard to Iran?

4. Is there any possibility that Pres. Obama (with cooperation with Pres. Medvedev) might use Russia as a backdoor diplomatic channel to Iran?

As Pres. Obama gets ready to depart on his trip, I hope these are some of the questions you guys will be focusing on.

Who will pay for this?  

I don't want to drown people in numbers, but if you divide the 10 year projected cost ($1.1 Trillion) by the number of people in the US (360 Million) the cost is expected to be ~$30,000 PER PERSON

That's an additional $3,000 per year, or $254/month - PER PERSON, not per taxpayer!  If you have a family of 4 - that's another $1,000/month!  (Remember that 1965 Medicare cost projections were off by a factor of 12 by 1990)  It will cost more than $1.1 Trillion!

We're broke!  California is progressive in social policy and tax policy, and they are issuing IOU's.  How long until the Feds have to do the same?
Tom Cooper, Germantown MD (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:36 AM)

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Here I'll make you feel better...your math is wrong.

1.1 trillion divided by 110 million taxpaying families is 9090.00

Divide that over 10 years, that is 909.00 every year, or 75.00 every month.  Not including any additional savings from streamlining medicare or overpayments.

So now you can stop worrying.  And tell all your friends...it's not as bad as you think.

Tom Cooper, Germantown MD (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:36 AM)

But only if we had a 'flat' tax.  As you know we don't.  Those who can afford to pay more, should.  Or at least that is how our tax system has existed.
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PS.  I recognize that I ruined a perfectly good rant yesterday by using 'protagonist' instead of ANTAGONIST, my bad.

I don't remember health care ever a reason for our economic situation. If health care cost, yes the cost of the care - not the lie of healthcare insurnce coverage, are such an issue, logically we should get rid of health insurance and let the the people and the providers determine cost in the way that this market economy was designed. When insurance companies dangle a multi-trillion dollar carrot in front of care provides, what do expect would happen. The more everyone jumps on any insurance bandwagon - the more costs will soar and care will drop - soon someone else will make all of your care decisions for you.

What-no mention of the Washing Post article on this 'stage managed event', (that's a quote from the article).

Seems like some professional reporters rediscovered journalistic ethics.  Maybe you guys could send a copy to the New York Times, if you find a copy yourselves.

Or, you could continue spouting Obamapropaganda.  Of course, that will just take you the way of the Grey Lady-which is down the drain.

no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:39 AM)

no joe your going back to the Bush era where he staged every thing. And the Washington Post what a joke we all know it is owned by Murdock and like Fox it panders to you and the other 20% neo-cons.

What-no mention of the Washing Post article on this 'stage managed event', (that's a quote from the article).

Seems like some professional reporters rediscovered journalistic ethics.  Maybe you guys could send a copy to the New York Times, if you find a copy yourselves.

Or, you could continue spouting Obamapropaganda.  Of course, that will just take you the way of the Grey Lady-which is down the drain.
no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:39 AM)
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And they should take their example from Fox, who, although I never watched, I am **certain** they called Bush out on his actions and policy decisions on a regular basis, right?

Right?

Nancy-Ann DeParle, President Barack Obama’s health policy czar, served as a director of corporations that faced scores of federal investigations, whistleblower lawsuits and other regulatory actions, according to government records reviewed by the Investigative Reporting Workshop at American University.

Several of the companies were investigated for alleged kickbacks or engaging in other illegal billing schemes, while others were accused of serious violations of federal quality standards, including one company that failed to warn patients of deadly problems with an implanted heart defibrillator. Several of the cases ended with substantial fines paid to the federal government, even though the companies admitted no wrongdoing.

Since leaving her government job running Medicare for the Clinton administration, DeParle built a lucrative private-sector career. Records show she earned more than $6.6 million since early 2001,

Enough said! Thank you Uncle Obama for another winner! You've broken more campaign promises in the shortest amount of time than ANY previous president! Was it ignorance of the responsibilities or a straight out con-job?

"Obama meets with business leaders at the White House privately to discuss how "they've been able to create jobs despite the economic doldrums,".
I find this interesting as less than an hour ago it was said that" Employers cut more jobs than expected in June and unemployment rate climbed for the ninth straight month, hitting 9.5%."
Wake up America or we will be a jobless country steeped in socialism, with no middle-americans left to take more money from.
Don't take my money, learn my work ethics.

Unemployment over 9%, Russia would be laughing at us like the rest of the world and the majority of Americans would not be buying into Obama and his health care dog and pony show.  All fingers would be pointing at Obama and the democrats.  So much for the hope and change fantasy.

NBC / GE > The state run press and OBLAHBLAHS cheerleaders.  This site is a joke and these liberal posters that can't do math, live in the OBAMALAND FANTASY can only complain.  Bush had the sense to not regulate every aspect of our lives.  Like Animal Frm by Orwell "THe Pigs Now Live in the White House" and all the other farm animals now have the worst oppressor they could ever imagine.

It must be willful ignorance because no matter how many times the righties on here are told the truth, they keep spewing the lies and misinformation. Tom Cooper just did it again with his answer to his own question about who will pay.

Tom, the program is paid for with the savings that the changes bring about.  You won't be taxed another $30,000 or even $3.  Stop running around yelling that the sky is falling when you are basing your opinion on false information.

Good idea, Ed.  I too think that there are only a few right wing posters that use various different monikers.  The sad part is that they think they are being clever.  They aren't intelligent enough to relaize that we are laughing AT them, not with them.

The last time a chihuahua went for my ankle, I punted him about 50 feet . . .

All Comments must be approved before being posted??  By Who the Obama White House?  NBC just keeps lying to the public and running cover for OBLAHBLAH.  BUt they are in competition with ABC the "ALL BARACK CHANNEL"  Barry Sotero is a LIAR and it happens daily!!

and the manipulation of the public continues.  You are all sheeple, dems and repubs alike.

Greg of NW Indiana sayeth: Don't let the dittoheads Game FR's board!!

Excuse me Greggie poo but is not MSNBC the Pro-Obama anti Repub network and FR just another clone?  Are you stifling free speech again?  Where are your facts to back your claims?

Also Greggie poo the only facts you listed are some of the names of your fellow lib FR post team - sounds like a leftie conspiracy to me – you game boy you.

So you are for stifling free speech if it is conservatives speaking?

Most Dems, and maybe most Reps, and you Greggie poo are all corrupt or could give two poops for the common taxpayer.

Support honest pols who support the common taxpayer and America if any can be found whether Dem, Rep or independents.   Go Lou Dobbs, Rush, Savage, Hannity, Beck and Fox – collectively representing only an eighth of the media outlets - the remaining seven eighths or State Run Media are devoted lapdogs to ObamaDemsLefties.  

If anyone is gaming it is you G-poo and the State Run Media.  Free speech is already stifled with such an unbalanced media landscape.  We need diversity in media not liberal dominance.

Oh and I did not post at the end of the day as you say the gamers-dittoheads are wont to do.

Not surprising. If people remember, Putin struck the same conciliatory tone towards Bush for the first two years until Bush did every single thing in the book to piss him off. Hopefully Obama's not that stupid.

The independently-funded  healthcare policy research organization, The Commonwealth Fund, compared possible savings 'a health insurance exchange' could bring under three different scenarios. One would include a Medicare-like plan along with private insurance. Another would instead offer only a government-run plan with rates somewhat higher than Medicare. The final one would be private insurance with no government plan at all.
Commonwealth's study found cumulative health system savings between 2010 and 2020, compared with projected trends for that period, would range from $3.0 trillion under a Medicare-like plan along with private insurance paying providers at Medicare rates in competition with private plans, to $2.0 trillion for a public plan paying providers at rates between Medicare and private plan rates, to $1.2 trillion in the private plan-only scenario. All three options would help insure nearly all Americans, it said, with the number of uninsured dropping to about 4 million people by 2012.  'Such an exchange' would offer a central point for consumers to shop for and compare health plans.

Under the Medicare-like plan along with private insurance, all U.S. residents would be required to obtain health coverage. The plan would establish a new government-sponsored health program for people younger than age 65 who are not eligible for Medicare. More than 40 million people would be expected to enroll in the program, according to Cathy Schoen of the Commonwealth Fund.

The government-operated insurance exchange would be similar to an existing program in Massachusetts and would allow people to compare coverage offered by private insurers and the new public program. In addition, the plan supports wide adoption of health information technology, better disease prevention efforts and 'changes to the insurance payment system' that promote efficiency. Health spending would continue to increase under the plan, but at a slower rate than current projections over the next 10 years. The Commonwealth Fund said the plan would reduce annual health care spending growth from a projected 6.7% to 5.5% and save a cumulative total of about '$3 trillion' by 2020, adding  a national health insurance exchange program that includes a federally managed health insurance option could potentially save $1.8 trillion more than a plan consisting only of private plans.
The group's analysis assumed other changes would also be made to the U.S. healthcare market. These include  an expansion of existing government coverage and new regulations that would require insurers to cover a wider range of consumers. Hospitals and doctors would also see their revenues grow with any of the three exchanges but at a slower rate, the report said.

The proposal's advocates have argued that a government-sponsored insurance plan would offer the 46 million uninsured Americans an affordable alternative to costly private insurance,  adding that It would provide a strong incentive for private plans to strealine, innovate and compete.

OBAMA'S AGENDA IS LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES.

The koolaid drinking Obama nut cases don't seem to get it. Well they will get it sooner than later. You can blame Bush all you want but it doesn't change the fact that his policies and the legislation being passed buy the progressive socialists (AKA Liberal Dems) is killing the economy.

We've spent enough stimulas money to give nearly every tax payer over $50K and the economy still tanks. Has everyone forgot the money spent is OUR money?!

Since when do we as taxpayers bail out big business?
I don't see mom and pop shops who account for over 75% of American employment getting bailed out when they fail.

I'm glad that he's screwing up like Carter did, as it pretty much guarantees that Dems will bet pushed out at midterms and Obama will be defeated in a landslide.

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