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Henry Kissinger on Obama

Posted: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:59 AM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Alex Beinstein
The Republican foreign-policy strategist Henry Kissinger spoke to the German publication Der Spiegel. Here are a few nuggets:

 
SPIEGEL: Despite the failure of Versailles, this Wilsonian idea is remarkably prevalent. Is our affinity to the ideals of democracy perhaps naïve?

Kissinger: The belief in democracy as a universal remedy regularly reappears in American foreign policy. Its most recent appearance came with the so-called neocons in the Bush administration. Actually, Obama is much closer to a realistic policy on this issue than Bush was.

SPIEGEL: Do you think it was helpful for Obama to deliver a speech to the Islamic world in Cairo? Or has he created a lot of illusions about what politics can deliver?

Kissinger: Obama is like a chess player who is playing simultaneous chess and has opened his game with an unusual opening. Now he's got to play his hand as he plays his various counterparts. We haven’t got beyond the opening game move yet. I have no quarrel with the opening move.

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Henry Kissinger has no quarrel with the opening move; and neither do I. As a matter of fact, a new beginning in deeds and words has come. Thank you, President Obama for your diplomacy in Russia and vision to put a new face on Russian and American relations. You have melted the Bushwhackers   attitude  Great job Mr President. We had normal relations  before in  WW11 and we can do it again.
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Dennis, Columbus, Ohio (Sent Monday, July 06, 2009 10:58 AM)
“This Week with George Stephanopoulos” Biden was confronted with the Obama statement and commented that he said it before he realized that the economy was much worse than any of the experts had thought it was
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Dennis,
Are you aware that the economy could have been much worse were it not for the stimulus?
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BoBo has got to GoGo (Sent Monday, July 06, 2009 10:49 AM)

Actually, America has HUGE oil reserves - but idiots like yourself would rather buy oil from terrorists and dictators instead of using our own.

Because, its better for the dictators and terrorists to have the money than those "greed" american oil companies - you know - the same oil companies that helped your 401K grow to record levels 2 years ago!!!

But, you guys hate american companies and would rather support Iran and other Terrorist Dictators -
We call you TRAITOR
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Dodo I mean BoBo
It would also be a lot better if Dodos like you, Sarah, Boehner, who are the real TRAITORS; perpetuate lies. If you feel so strongly about about our reserves then should support our President. Tell Bone headed Boehner to stop wasting time on  the floor reading a stupid 300 page memo just to oppose the Obama agenda next time. The Jobs your pathetic Idols sent overseas  will  not continue as long as we have President Obama in Charge who knows a thing or two about energy ; unlike you idiot.

That's really funny that Kissinger thinks more of President Obama's diplomatic approach than in Clueless George's bumbling efforts that caused so much tension between our countries.  I guess if he thinks that Obama is a chess player we must impute that Clueless George was nothing but a checkers player.  I'm sure that Lush Limburger will now attack Henry for not being a true repugnant one toeing the line against Obama all the time.

Kudos to Carlos Watson for letting the Obama-Medvedev news conference play on into the questions segment.  Also kudos to Nancy Snydermann to have the patience to wait to start her show after the questions were done.

I so loved the visual of Obama towering over Medvedev, something I've been wanting to see since Obama got elected.

In Obama We Trust!
Even the master diplomat himself agrees with what President Obama is doing regarding foreign policy. He also says that Obama is doing a better job than Bush 43 did in that regard.

Most sane people could see that. It is good that a man like Henry Kissinger merely validates our observations.
Spin That Haters!!
P.S. Anita, you don't recall the President saying unemployment won't rise above 8% becaus HE DIDN'T.

I challenge ANYONE to find a quote of him saying anything of the sort.
Nashville_fan


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One of many.

From Bloomberg:

Obama signed the $787 billion stimulus bill in February, and his chief economic advisers had forecast it would help hold unemployment below 8 percent. It included tax cuts and spending on infrastructure projects that the president pledged would save or create 3.5 million jobs.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=at6C_WYH2PkY
Comments were more positive than I would have expected from Kissinger. He has always been blunt.
Obama has said a lot. Too bad he doesn't have any results to show for any of it.
Kissinger may be the last intelligent Republican.

"I have no quarrel with the opening move."  Neither do I Henry.  It is an excellent opening move.
Kissinger is waiting to see more of what Obama does.  Maybe the Republican, Democrat and other doubters should wait just a little longer to make any judgments on the policies.  I can't say that I agree with them all, but we should be aware that things take time.
Kissinger: The belief in democracy as a universal remedy regularly reappears in American foreign policy. Its most recent appearance came with the so-called neocons in the Bush administration. Actually, Obama is much closer to a realistic policy on this issue than Bush was.
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Ha, ha, ha...I would think so too Mr. Kissinger and so does other leaders..ha, ha, ha...

Typical Kissinger.  "His opening move' looks okay?  

It looks to me like ol' Henry the K is saying a lot without really saying anything.

Maybe that's where Obama got his style.
checkmate neocons...
I guess that means Henry Kissinger isn't a "real" Republican, either--he allows for the possibility that Obama might be doing something right.  I hope Rush Limbaugh reads Henry the riot act!
Even Kissinger appreciates and acknowledges the intellect of Obama.  It is only the right wing of the Republican Party that thinks that Sarah Palin is a leader with something to contribute which denies the international strides that Obama is making.
Solid comments Mr. K.
And of course, you firmly believe that the UAW and the EPA did nothing to contribute to GM’s downfall.
Pete Roleum, Detroit, MI USA
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Here's your answer Pete, from the Chairman himself...Mr. Lutz...

"According to D Magazine, at a private lunch, GM chairman Maximum Bob Lutz said global warming is a "total crock of shit." Bob adds "I'm a skeptic, not a denier. Having said that, my opinion doesn't matter." Speaking about the battery-driven Volt, Lutz said, "I'm motivated more by the desire to replace imported oil than by the CO2 [argument]." At the lunch Bob also said hybrids like the Prius make "make no economic sense" and the Volt is exciting for him because "it's the last thing anybody expected from GM." Don't hold back Bob, tell us what you really think.

Thanks again Nash for the fact check!
Ha, ha, ha...I would think so too Mr. Kissinger and so does other leaders..ha, ha, ha...

Anita, Birmingham, Alabama (Sent Monday, July 06, 2009 12:27 PM)
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I see how it works now, Kissinger is a brilliant elder statesman when he supports Democrat Obama but Henry was nothing but a bootlicker and enabler when he supported the Republican Nixon. Can’t have it both ways lefties.
Dear Hansel Greta:

How does "and his chief economic advisers had forecast it would help hold unemployment below 8 percent" equal a quote from the President?

The economic forecast mentioned, which can be found here:

http://otrans.3cdn.net/45593e8ecbd339d074_l3m6bt1te.pdf

states PLAINLY that it is a is a PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS of a PROTOTYPICAL PACKAGE which will EVOLVE. . . not an analyis of the ACTUAL BILL that passed!

Unemployment was 8% when the stimulus package was signed, so NOBODY thought that the stimulus package would hold it below that.

President Obama NEVER said that the stimulus would hold unemployment under 8% . . . and that's a fact.
Pete Roleum, Detroit, MI USA
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PART 2: continued…
5. Housing starts still in the toilet and 30 year fixed mortgage rates rising.

(e) The average 30 year fixed rate has hedged up sightly from 5.38, to 5.42 percent, however that slight uptick is due to the mixed economic reports, at least they aren’t where they were. We had record lows during the spring of the year . Last year during this same time (July)…mortgage rates were @ 6.45%...and the 15 year fixed rate opened @ 6.04%.  Both 30 and 15 year mortgage rates were at their highest for the year.
(f) The housing market was in the toilet then…these are the facts; as” your” federal reserve chairman reported…explain to me what happen Pete?

THE “FACTUAL”REPORT: July 2008-THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION:
“Fixed mortgage rates should stabilize throughout the month, and we might even see slight decreases throughout the month. 30 year fixed mortgage rates should average around 6.30 percent throughout the month while the 15 year fixed mortgage rates should average around 5.75 percent throughout July 2008.

Adjustable mortgage rates will remain very unstable throughout the month of July with every new mortgage related report that comes out. Expect ups and downs of 0.25 percent either way throughout the month.

The Federal Reserve continues to keep a close eye on inflation and is ready to act abruptly if need be. If inflation does rear its ugly head throughout the month you can throw the predictions above out the window and prepare for another month of rising mortgage rates.”

Hell, inflation had already reared its ugly head! Did the Federal Reserve “act abruptly” as they promised?  I think NOT.

6. Hundreds of billions given to the banks by Obama AND BUSH, but interest rates on savings and CD's are at Depression-era levels.

(g). 700 hundred billion were given to the banks by Bush-Poulson…nay “forced” without oversight and certificates of need. The Obama administration had to track down the money.  Interest rates on savings  were @ 1.99 to 2% in July of 2008 and CD’s were already at 3.60% and that was high,  there were some rates that were lower than that… They are still the same Pete, no lower. Obama got the money back from the banks…PETE.

7. Bush has been gone for 6 months. Obama and Pelosi have the keys to Fort Knox and STILL the economy is swirling down the toilet.

(h). Unless we are ALL stupid…I think that the majority of Americans know that “Fort Knox” is “dead broke”. YOU and BUSH cleaned it out…you voted for him, so that makes you just as responsible. Yes Bush has been gone for six months but before the departure of hurricane GEORGE, he made pretty damn sure that America had been striped to bare bones along with their allies. Bush came into office with a surplus of 56 billion and left with a defict of 1.2 trillion,  climbing unemployment , false wealth and a houseing bubble that  has broken the backs of it’s citizens, in ways that your sniveling butt can’t imagine and truly don’t care. Bush put the economy in the swirling toilet. President Obama isn't tring to keep from flushing it down Pete.
Dennis,
Are you aware that the economy could have been much worse were it not for the stimulus?
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Beverly, If you have read any of my postings over the past year you would know just how ayare I am of this fact.

I just wanted to know Biden said what he said if Obama never made the comment about 8%.

So far I believe Obama has made the right moves on the economy and most other items on his ajenda.
Hansel Greta:
Here's the "rest" of the article..

He said it is “pretty clear” that unemployment will continue rising before the recovery takes hold and said it isn’t surprising that initial forecasts from his administration missed the mark.

The economy has lost about 6 million jobs since the recession began in December 2007. The jobless rate jumped to 9.4 percent in May, the highest in more than 25 years.
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“I don’t feel satisfied with the progress that we’ve made,” Obama said. He cited the need to speed up distribution of stimulus funds and do more work with a program to modify existing mortgages, which hasn’t “been keeping pace with all the foreclosures that are taking place.”
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This is what your President Bush's admin reported in July of 2008...
“Fixed mortgage rates should stabilize throughout the month, and we might even see slight decreases throughout the month. 30 year fixed mortgage rates should average around 6.30 percent throughout the month while the 15 year fixed mortgage rates should average around 5.75 percent throughout July 2008.

Adjustable mortgage rates will remain very unstable throughout the month of July with every new mortgage related report that comes out. Expect ups and downs of 0.25 percent either way throughout the month.

The Federal Reserve continues to keep a close eye on inflation and is ready to act abruptly if need be. If inflation does rear its ugly head throughout the month you can throw the predictions above out the window and prepare for another month of rising mortgage rates.”

Unless we are ALL stupid…I think that the majority of Americans know that “Fort Knox” is “dead broke”. Anita, Birmingham, Alabama (Sent Monday, July 06, 2009 12:52 PM)
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Fort Knox is a metaphor meaning all the money Uncle Sam has available to spend.

Go back to patching the holes in the roof of your FEMA trailer using your collection of George Wallace bumper sickers.


Anita is delusional and they have meds for that.
Ha, ha, ha...I would think so too Mr. Kissinger and so does other leaders..ha, ha, ha...

Anita, Birmingham, Alabama (Sent Monday, July 06, 2009 12:27 PM)
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I see how it works now, Kissinger is a brilliant elder statesman when he supports Democrat Obama but Henry was nothing but a bootlicker and enabler when he supported the Republican Nixon. Can’t have it both ways lefties.

St. Eleutherius of Nicomedia (Sent Monday, July 06, 2009 12:49 PM)
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Thank you Saint!  And, just because somebody is an "elder" statesman, doesn't mean they were a good one!  Hanging around with "tricky Dick" stained Kissinger forever.
OBAMA IS NO FRIEND OF ISRAEL ...

From JEWISH WORLD REVIEW.COM.

"For most American Jews, the horror of even entertaining the hypothetical possibility that they might ever in a million years have to vote for a Republican is so great they simply cannot see what is staring them in the face --- that this Democratic President is lethal for both Israel and the free world."

OBAMA IS SELLING OUT ISRAEL WHILE THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IGNORES ISRAEL'S PLIGHT!
The smartest comment on this page was the one that mentioned that all the clearing up of the bush administrations mess will TAKE TIME. Of coarse it will take time, the far reaching problems always do.We must understand that this generation is unfortunatly the generation of instant computer gratification. The word patience does not apply to most people under the age of 40, this is no fault of theirs, these are bright people that are a product of an environment that is basiclly one that seems to give history too short a time to work complex prob. out. Remember , we have NEVER seen such a perfect storm of domestic and foreign affairs at the same time.We must also be aware that a  democrecy as we know it is not always the best for every country in the world.


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