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Obama agenda: Papal politics

Posted: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:21 AM by Mark Murray
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The AP: “The White House says it expects ‘frank’ but constructive talks in President Barack Obama's meeting Friday with Pope Benedict XVI - two men who share similar views on helping the poor and pushing for Middle East peace but disagree on abortion and stem cell research. With some Catholic activists and American bishops outspoken in their criticism of Obama, even as polls have shown he received a majority of Catholic votes, the audience is much awaited.”

Video: President Obama wraps up a summit with G-8 leaders and heads to Vatican City with his family to meet with Pope Benedict XVI. NBC’s Savannah Guthrie reports.

The New York Times: "Ever since he took office, President Obama has been given a cold reception by some Roman Catholic bishops in the United States who have repeatedly emphasized their church’s differences with him on abortion, birth control and stem cell research. But Mr. Obama is likely to receive a much warmer reception in the Vatican on Friday when he meets Pope Benedict XVI for the first time, experts on the church say."

“Leaders of the world's major economies pledged Friday to raise $20 billion over the next three years for food and agricultural aid to the world's most impoverished countries,” the Washington Post writes. “The expanded commitment on food security -- up from an earlier pledge of $15 billion in aid -- comes as the global recession and still high commodity prices have pushed food prices 40 percent above historical levels. That combination has left many as 100 million people around the world at risk of tumbling into abject poverty, according to the White House.”

“A senior White House official said that at one point President Obama personalized the appeal for more aid, pointing out to other world leaders that he still has relatives in Kenya who are mired in deep poverty. ‘You could have heard a pin drop in the room,’ the official said.”

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Before everyone starts bashing the Pres on his stance on abortion, let's get it right.  He is for a woman right to choice, not a supporter of abortion.  There, now let's move on from this :-)
FR: The White House says it expects ‘frank’ but constructive talks in President Barack Obama's meeting Friday with Pope Benedict XVI.

Who is this 'Frank' you speak of?
Obama is going to ask the Pope for forgiveness for staring down that 16 year olds booty at the photo op yesterday.
Yet, Kenyan officials are furious that Obama did not plan a stop in that country.  He is stopping in Ghana, but not in his father's homeland.

Considering that every president with even tenuous ties to Ireland stops on the way, to 'celebrate their Irish heritage', it makes one wonder why Obama chose to ignore Kenya.  I realize that there have been political problems in that country, but Ireland has had more than its share of those, too.

Perhaps it is because he is a fan of the opposition to the current government, and does not wish to give the outward appearance of endorsing it.  If so, it should give pause to his willingness to meet with the current government in Iran.  Unfortunately, that kind of thinking involves logic; not the idealogue's strong suit.
Who cares what the Catholic Church Bishops have to say considering they were complacent in covering up and moving around pedophile priests. They need worry about their own actions and preventing congregations from going under considering all the money they've  dish out.  
Obie meets the Pope.

This is WAY OUT of Obie's element and a bit hypocritical because Obie has dissed any form of religion since the innaugaration, having religious symbols covered at places he has spoken, nixing the Prayer Breakfast and refusing to send a flyover to the God and Country Festival, ending a 42 year tradition.
That makes Bennie a big ol' hypocrite, doesn't it.
President Obama needs to tell the pope a dope to buzz off on abortion and stem cell research.  It's the pope a dope that is screwing up our planet by fighting responsible population growth by fighting responsible birth control.  It's the massive population growth that is accelerating world hunger and pollution.  As our population grows our forests get deforested and that means the planet is less capable of getting rid of our carbon dioxide emissions as more people make more carbon dioxide.  Time for global population growth control before it's too late.

In Obama We Trust!
Jimmy,

watch the video of the so called booty stare.  Then we'll talk about who needs to ask for forgiveness.
With all the hate on this board maybe he should ask forgiveness for the haters as he meets with the Pope.

Instead of looking for any little, teensy,itty bitty thing to blow out of proportion and criticize why not just recognize that the leader of the free world and the leader of several million Catholics will be chatting at the Vatacan. No two people will ever totally agree on everything and both of those men are smart enough to know that.

Pope Benedict knows that Obama is a Protestant and not a Catholic but he also knows that there are certain things Christians have in common. He looks for the common ground rather than that which is different between them. The President understands that the Catholic Church, like it or not, has a degree of power in the world. It is good to exchange ideas and thoughts between the two.

People say that a person in a secular job in a nation of FREE religion or freedom FROM religion must be a blubbering, slobbering adherant to evangelical beliefs or he is a hypocrite. That is ridiculous. Many of our past Presidents have been deists and not necessarily Christians. Like any good Protestant he and his family are looking for a church to attend while living in Washington. After all they'll be living there 8 years. Catholics don't have that problem as the mass is pretty much the same no matter where one goes. Personalities of priests and maybe a small change in congreation people's attitudes may cause Catholics to attend mass at a different church but overall there isn't the big differences there are between Protestant religions. Despite differences, however, we should look for what is common among us not what is different. This us vs. them attitude is partly how we got into some of the messes we are in today. Obama is trying to mend those broken relationships.
Politics is the game, placation is the strategy. As both empires are filled with hypocrits and liers, it's the O'l Potomac Shuffle once again. Nobody pays attention to either except perhaps their respective posse's.
no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Friday, July 10, 2009 9:30 AM)

No Joe,

Often the simplest and most straight forward answer is the correct one.  Could it simply be that his calendar does not permit him at this time to stop in Kenya?

Not everything has to involve a conspiracy theory.
“A senior White House official said that at one point President Obama personalized the appeal for more aid, pointing out to other world leaders that he still has relatives in Kenya who are mired in deep poverty. ‘You could have heard a pin drop in the room,’ the official said.”


That's what happens when a pinhead speaks.
Obie meets the Pope.

This is WAY OUT of Obie's element and a bit hypocritical because Obie has dissed any form of religion since the innaugaration, having religious symbols covered at places he has spoken, nixing the Prayer Breakfast and refusing to send a flyover to the God and Country Festival, ending a 42 year tradition.
Bad Chihuahua (Sent Friday, July 10, 2009 9:36 AM)
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Typical GOP reaction.  If I don't agree with you, it means I shouldn't meet with you any time for any reason.  Doesn't matter that we both have influence over many people, and could discuss things on which we agree or ways to work on things on which we don't agree....oh heavens no, we can't make progress in this world can we?  Since we don't agree, we must obstruct each other, how dare we meet with people with whom we disagree.

Opposition to human blastocytic stem cell research is illogical. Those stem cells are derived from excess frozen blastocyst which are left overs from in vitro fertalization. Thousands are thrown in the trash weekly. Why not put them to use in the developement of medical treatments which can save lives. The first clinical use of them for paralysis has been approve. Induced adult stem cells have been hyped but so far are not a substitute for blastocytic stem cells.
Hope he has better luck in killing the 1962 "crimen sollicitationis" decree, its killing our kids in the thousands around the world, also thanks
Can someone tell me why it's a big deal when Catholics protest abortion?  I mean, aside from the "How dare they protest this immaculate president?"
And now for the bad news.

Membership in the Catholic church increased from 61 million to 62 million in the past year.  Also increased is the number of new vocations to the priesthood.
I was encouraged that Obama didn't appear to blame all the African problems on George Bush or the U.S.

Of course he did say he would help Africa with more feeling than George Bush, but hey, progress is progress.

This has to be the most mealy-mouthed, blame-dependent excuse maker I've ever seen in the White House.


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