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Obama: 'Don't bet against' health reform

Posted: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:08 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mark Murray
In the conveniently timed intermission during the Sotomayor hearings, President Obama announced Regina Benjamin to be his pick for surgeon general.

But the president also used the announcement as a kind pep talk on health-care reform, as congressional watchers and the press have begun to doubt whether Congress can meet his goal to pass reform bills before it goes on its August recess. 

"We are going to get this done," Obama said. "Inaction is not a option."

He added, "Don't bet against us. We are going to make this happen."

And mentioning a sports/exercise metaphor he's used before, Obama said that Washington's muscles for enacting change have atrophied. So: "We are whipping folks back into shape."

Earlier today, we noted that the day's two main storylines -- Sotomayor and CIA/Cheney -- would make it difficult for Obama to get his message out on the economy and health care. Well, he used a surgeon general announcement to try to break through.

*** UPDATE *** According to NBC's Athena Jones, Obama also said his campaign pledge that Americans making $250,000 a year or less WOULD NOT pay more in taxes was a promise that would be kept as reform moved forward. "During the campaign, I promised health-care reform that would control costs, expand coverage, and ensure choice. And I promised that Americans making $250,000 a year or less would not pay more in taxes. These are promises that we're keeping as reform moves forward."

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But the president also used the announcement as a kind pep talk on health-care reform, as congressional watchers and the press have begun to doubt whether Congress can meet his goal to pass reform bills before it goes on its August recess.  

"We are going to get this done," Obama said. "Inaction is not a option."

He added, "Don't bet against us. We are going to make this happen."
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President Obama, you need not worry about HCR taking a back seat amongst the Cheney CIA news. The House had better get ready to do their jobs and get it done. There are no excuses. Leave the confirmation hearings alone and focus on what we need. Judge Sotomayor will be confirmed, now move on tho what's important.
HCR is dead. It's over. DOA. Not a chance of happening. The signature legislation for the Democrats and Obama is done. And frankly, that's a good thing for America, because what Obama had proposed would have set medicine back a 100 years.

Next, cap and trade needs to be stomped out, and then after that, the remaining stimulus money needs to be cancelled.
The Democrats are going to fail miserably at health care reform (like they haven't already), then throw up some worthless band-aide legislation to save a little face. When that passes, yet more waste the taxpayers will have to pay for, those same Democrats will all pound their chests saying how wonderful they are, and many will lose at the ballot box next year for being the idiots they are.
I like this
This woman seems like a fine choice.  And I did listen to our CIC speech.  Well said, hope he sticks to his guns.

Whoever is doing the impersonating, more power to ya.  Have fun, enjoy being incognito, keep up the good work!  I've got better things to do than worry about your small mind.  
Obama; "We are whipping folks back into shape."


And the liberals are whipping the taxpayers day in and day out.

Just where are those jobs President Obama?
Another brick in the wall of socialism.
Obama’s health care proposal is, in effect, the repeal of the Medicare program as we know it. The elderly will go from being the group with the most access to free medical care to the one with the least access. Indeed, the principal impact of the Obama health care program will be to reduce sharply the medical services the elderly can use. No longer will their every medical need be met, their every medication prescribed, their every need to improve their quality of life answered.


It is so ironic that the elderly - who were so vigilant when Bush proposed to change Social Security - are so relaxed about the Obama health care proposals. Bush’s Social Security plan, which did not cut their benefits at all, aroused the strongest opposition among the elderly. But Obama’s plan, which will totally gut Medicare and replace it with government-managed care and rationing, has elicited little more than a yawn from most senior citizens.

It’s time for the elderly to wake up before it is too late!

In our new book, Catastrophe, we explain - in detail and in depth - the consequences the elderly of Canada are feeling from just this kind of program. Limited colonoscopies have led to a 25% higher rate of colon cancer and a ban on the use of the two best chemotherapies are part of the reason why 42% of Canadians with colon cancer die while 31% of Americans, who have access to these two medications, survive the disease.

Overall, the death rate from cancer in Canada is 16% higher than in the United States and the heart disease mortality rate is 6% above ours’.

Under Obama’s program, there will be a government health insurance company that gets huge subsidies of tax money. It will compete with private insurance plans. But the subsidies will let it undercut the private plans and drive them out of business, leaving only the government plan - a single payer - in effect.

Today, 800,000 doctors struggle to treat adequately the 250 million Americans who have insurance. Obama will add 50 million more to their caseload with no expansion in the number of doctors or nurses. Indeed, his plan will likely reduce their number by lowering reimbursement rates and imposing bureaucrats above them who will force medical decisions down their throats. Fewer doctors will have to treat more patients. The inevitable result will be rationing.

And it is the elderly who rationing will most effect. Who should get a knee replacement a 40 year old or a 70 year old? Who should get a new hip, a young person or an old person? Who should have priority in the operating room a seventy year old diabetic who needs bypass surgery or a younger person? Obviously, it is the elderly who will get short shrift under his proposal.

But the interest groups that usually speak up for the elderly, particularly AARP, are in Obama’s pocket, hoping to profit from his program by becoming one of its vendors. Just as they backed Bush’s prescription drug plan because they anticipating profiting from it, so they are now helping Obama gut the medical care of their constituents.

It is high time that the elderly of America realized what the stakes are in this vital fight to preserve Medicare as we know it and keep medical care open, accessible, and free to those over 65. It is truly a battle for their very lives.

My,my,my more evidence of Bush Administration lies and corruption. Unfortunately, I believe this is just the tip of the ice berg.

As for Surgeon General, I will need more information about her to make any real comment. So far, however she looks like a good choice. That could be confirmed or changed based on what I learn of her later on.

Our health care system is broken. The longer we take to fix it the worse it is going to be. Had we done so back in the 90s we'd have less cost and it would be working by now. Instead we see the mess getting worse and worse. Don't waste time, Congress, pass the darn bill and send it to the President for signature. You can tweak it later if needed.
Smart man, Pres Obama.  His appointment as surgeon general sounds qualified and why not while you have the microphone, remind Congress that we Americans voted for change in the form of HCR, energy, education.  Washington is so consumed with their partisan rhethoric that congress has forgotten we HIRED them and we can FIRE them just as easily if they fail to work together, that includes democrats, to accomplish what is good for this country.
What a difference a few months make. After telling America how wonderful socailized health care would be, the real truth of how terrible it would be comes out. Costing trillions, does not universally cover everyone, raises taxes by at least a half billion dollars, tells hospitals to cut costs by the same amount. What we would have if Obama hasd is way is worse hospitals at a high cost to go along with rationing of services.

The country has finally figured out what fraud Obama is. The country may think Obama is popular, but they sure think his socialistic plans suck.
President Obama, you need not worry about HCR taking a back seat amongst the Cheney CIA news. - Anita, Birmingham, Alabama


You don't get it, Obama wants Cheney on the front page. Obie needs to have something to distract the country from all of his failed or failing programs.
yes like the song said ain't gonna let nobody turn me around/so Sir press the mark america is with you some won't be pleased but a healthier Nation will be worth it,again take back fromn the money you gave us 8$a week or 16 every two weeks and 5 from those who recieve monthly stipends this is what vice President Biden meant when he said all pitch in and to sweeten the pot withhold some of the raise the federal government is due to recieve for 2010-2011 by doing this the debt wont be so high dream as a father .
Go ahead Democrats, pass a bill that raises taxes by $600 billion. See where that gets 'ya.
I am not sure Healthcare, although I know a whole family in S.W. FL -- AGES 29, 26, 2, and 7 weeks respectively without Healthcare  - is going to get out this Summer.   Back to the West Coast of FL, only the husband works and because he makes $16.00 an hour in a 30 to 40 hour workweek, they qualify for nothing.   I find that stunning in a country this wealthy.

Curious to know if Ms Benjamin is another pawn of the pro abortion lucrative machine or if she's a woman of conviction who acts on her Hipa oath and defends and saves lives instead of destroying them.  Being african american, I would hope she's sickened that America still supports the racist abortion movement.  Also, I hope that team Obama is honest and "transparent" and admits that their public plan will include coverage for abortions under the nicer sounding "reproductive services".  Lastly, are we ever going to hear the words "tort reform" from this administration.  It doesn't take a genius to realize that excessive and many ridiculuous lawsuits which push doctors to get outrageous insurance coverages are a big part of the health care cost issue which need to be dealt with.  But does Pres Obama have the guts to go after the trial lawyers who have lined his pockets to get this far?
no joe, no bo, nj
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In Answer To Your Rattling:

I have read the Geneva Convention Laws and cheap shots are all that you have after all, if anyone in the Bush Administration get investigated, it will bring down the entire Republican party and that is why you people who are partisans and pundits are advocating no prosecution. If it were the Democrats that created such grievous crimes or even infidelity, you people would be conducting hearing right now. Yes, there should be investigations and trials and none to soon either.

That would be the AG’s office conducting them, after all it is the Department Of Justice’s duty to do so and not the White House, is it not? Or are you still living in the Bush era of cowboy law and justice…which is none when it hurts your party?

MO - short for ...

You and Mark are in the same boat, always reading something dark into a brilliant paragragh. Tangled up in blue? You are drifting too far from the shore.
Come back to reality.

Democrats can't even get any versions of the health care bill out of the committees, let alone to the House floor. Any talk of any legislation has been suspended indefinitely.

You knew the Democrats, when given enough rope, would hang themselves. Didn't think it would happen this soon, but the Democrats are over-achievers in the science of shooting themselves in the foot.
"We are going to get this done," Obama said. "Inaction is not a option."
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And a Public Option should not be scrapped.
I'm am not in favor of a plan that mandates everyone just buy insurance.  That is not reform, that just spreads out the cost.

We need a non-profit option that does not choose if a person lives or dies based on share price.  Just making everyone buy insurance will not help that we pay more than any industrialized country in the world per person, while getting less and less.

Having everyone buy insurance will do nothing but pad the insurance companies bottom line, and keep prescription drug prices high.

We need single payer, or we need a public option to keep competition and honesty in the health insurance industry.  
Obama can keep cheerleading on this issue, but even the democrats aren't listening anymore. the reason he wanted it done yesterday, without anyone reading the bill, (like everything else he pushes through on an emergency basis) is that he knows that when these people go back to their districts, they get plenty of grief from their constituents on their votes.  these are the same people who hire and fire them with their votes; their choices are to listen to the president, or listen to their 'employers'.

Obama may not care what the polls say, as he believes that he is right on every issue, despite the consequences, but the members his party sure do.  In this economy, they do not want to join the ranks of the unemployed.
MSierra, Feisty, Cindy and Eric. We all been plagiarized by the reputes, I know your postings from the asses. They are childish. I just ignore them. I know each one of your post from the BS the children are putting out here.
Looks like these Tea Party protests are working.

Thomas Browner, Texas (Sent Monday, July 13, 2009 9:20 AM)
Ooooh, a tea party!!  Did you invite all of your stuffed animals and have crumpets as well?
Christopher Robin

Yes, in fact I did invite my stuffed animals. But unlike you, they have health care because they work for it. You'll just have to be left begging.
HCR is dead. It's over. DOA. Not a chance of happening. The signature legislation for the Democrats and Obama is done. And frankly, that's a good thing for America, because what Obama had proposed would have set medicine back a 100 years.

Next, cap and trade needs to be stomped out, and then after that, the remaining stimulus money needs to be cancelled.
OP Taylor, NC (Sent Monday, July 13, 2009 12:21 PM)

Just wondering Opie. Who is paying for your healthcare? How about your parents? How about your grandparents? Sister? Brother? Wife? Kids?

We are all confident that it is not you. Oh, you may pay a little co insurance but that is it isn't dopey?
All the propaganda these posters push thru on a daily basis - how do you look in the mirror and not feel ashamed?  We need a public option to our health care menu, we need to stop a bunch of overly rich bureaucrats from convincing the uneducated that somehow the public option will cost them more (like insurance is free now??), and not let them go to the doctor they want - sounds like the insurance policy I have currently.  My husband and I pay about $12000 a year for basic health insurance plans; they still fight us on a chiropractor visit.  Are the naysayers telling me it will cost even more than that to get a public plan?  I have to doubt it.  They act like all Americans will go from paying $0 under the insurance company plan to paying $600 billion under the government plan.  And why would anyone trust anything that sleezeball Dick Morris says?  We need a public option and we will fight to get it no matter how much money the insurance and phara lobbies waste trying to convince us otherwise.  Now is the time for the middle/lower classes to get some fairness.
We've been hoodwinked about health care reform for decades. The only difference between our health care system and the systems in Canada, England and France is that no one, not one person, dies or goes bankrupt in those countries because they get sick and can't pay for treatment. Thousands of middle class Americans that HAVE health insurance die or go bankrupt every single day because they can't pay the deductibles. We wait the same amount of time as they do and the beaurac, er insurance company, is the one making the decision as to what care we receive. The doctor makes the decision in those countires.

Finally, someone from the insurance companies is speaking out about how we have been fooled for so long and the insurance industry efforts to scare us....wake up!

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html
Next, cap and trade needs to be stomped out, and then after that, the remaining stimulus money needs to be cancelled. OP Taylor, NC (Sent Monday, July 13, 2009 12:21 PM)
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And after that we should round up all the poor people in the country into boxcar trains and put them into labor intern camps, and after that we should invade any country that would financial help americas cause, and after that we should ....
*** UPDATE *** According to NBC's Athena Jones, Obama also said his campaign pledge that Americans making $250,000 a year or less WOULD NOT pay more in taxes was a promise that would be kept as reform moved forward.
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Thank you Mr. President...now you partisans can stop salivating all over yourselves.

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Answer to your posting:
Jonathan, Flint, MI

Jonathan, I m not really sure how old you are and I mean no disrespect in saying so because age does not necessitate wisdom; However I did post a bit of history that I live and know to well, just as some others out here will agree to, but balanced budgets wont mean a hill of a beans unless we deviate from “proven” errors of this nation’s economic fixes.

I have a saying that states” You can’t put a band-aid on a gaping hole that requires sutures”.  This best describes the Republican Parties brand of politics. Supply sided economics don’t work. Trickle down economics don’t work. What works are fixes…not patches. Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush failed at fixing the economy that would sustain such losses that we’ve experienced. I have the remainder of my history lesson to post and you will better understand what I am pointing out.
no joe,no bo,nj:'...therefore, in a growing economy, with unemployment between 5 and 6 percent, it would be a good idea to have balanced budgets-keeping open the option to borrow and run a deficit in the case unforeseen circumstances, such as a foreign invasion or catastrophic natural event, (hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, etc.)  a balanced budget amendment would not allow for that; therefore, any unforeseen activity woulddamage the economy.

In the case of recessions, governments SHOULD run deficits-one of the causes of the great Depression was congress raising taxes at a time of economic contraction in order to balance the federal budget.  It deepens recessions, causes more unemployment, and drags out the length of time between contraction and recovery.

In the case of inflation, government should RAISE taxes-taking money out of the economy to slow the rate of inflation.  With a balanced budget amendment, congress would be forced to cut taxes during times of high inflation, thereby raising the rate of inflation by adding more money to an economy already suffering from too many dollars chasing too few goods.,,'

You've just described Keynesianism
Welcome to the 20th Century
Are you advocating making Keynesianism a part of the Constitution ??

Why did you criticise Obama for spending in the face of the Bush Recession?
That's what Keyens (and apparently you) reccomend

Politicians are good at spending and cutting taxes
They're not so good at cutting spending or increasing taxes

Santa Clause in a three piece suit



For all the advocates of the Public option...where do you find the legal authority (as derived from the role of legislators and the executive as defined in the constitution) to procede with a large public program like this?  For those who say health care is a right (what you mean, however is entitlement) that should be accomodated by the government for the public where is this in our founding documents?  For all the harping over the consitutional criminallity of the Bush Admin. (and I agree with most of it, mind you) why are you not screaming about the unconstituional nature of the federal health option or even cap and trade for that matter?

You absolutlely cannot only belive in the authority of the Constitution when it suits your purposes only.  This is why I don't respect most of the arguments made on this board by the partisan junkies that like to spout their one liners and party rhetoric.  The two party system has created walking contradictions out of U.S. citizens.  

You only need to read the constitution to be an expert on American Politics.  

So please read it.

 

HCR will work and be implemented - or we will advocate direct change to the constitution to grant absolute decision power to the President for the matter.

This is a national emergency - he should have that power already - but to appease the wealthy and it's investors - we will make a process out of it.

It will happen, the Democratic way or the George Bus/ Dick Cheney way.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Thanks to Dick Morris for bringing some thoughtful insight to these posts.
*** UPDATE *** According to NBC's Athena Jones, Obama also said his campaign pledge that Americans making $250,000 a year or less WOULD NOT pay more in taxes was a promise that would be kept as reform moved forward. "During the campaign, I promised health-care reform that would control costs, expand coverage, and ensure choice. And I promised that Americans making $250,000 a year or less would not pay more in taxes. These are promises that we're keeping as reform moves forward."


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So what happened to the "Shared Responsibility" Obama keeps talking about? Doesn't sound like much of the responsibility of paying for this massive failure of a program will be shared by many. It's just the Leftwing of this country voting themselves yet another raise.
So, Obama is having another staged, invitation-only, town hall in Michigan tomorrow.  I hope he brings a jacket because temps were unusually cool and in the 30s and 40s last night, all due to the NON-global-warming hoax.  

Also, the movie industry is trying to take off in Michigan.  I wonder how many actors Obama hired to pose questions and fake adoration at tomorrow's event.
One of the first things Obama did was increase taxes on cigarettes.  Does he think that people earning over $250K are the only ones that smoke??
How about that campaign promise for more jobs, Obama?  I need a job NOW.
You knew the Democrats, when given enough rope, would hang themselves. Didn't think it would happen this soon, but the Democrats are over-achievers in the science of shooting themselves in the foot.
Six Gunn
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Use that "Six Gun" to shoot yourselves in the foot. You party has done nothing but protected the interest of those that have served in past republican administrations that have moved on to serve as CEO's of Aetna insurance company.

You people are shooting yourselves in the foot by not joining in on HCR, by serving as surrogates to opposition of what the majority of America is calling for and will ultimately pay the price for such opposition. You people are still in denial, you don’t listen to the people’s voice, and you all are self absorbed. There are some Blue Dog Democrats that are suffering from the same misjudgments as well and next election will suffer the consequences of not voting once it’s passed. It will pass…You all have no vision and lack achievement…more like under-achievers.
I find the Big-Business MSM and GOP wingnuts amusing.

When it is about spending over $1 Trillion on a bogus war, they were all cheering.

When it is about spending the same amount or less on healthcare for Americans, they are up in arms?

What gives?
Health care needs reform.  That is certain.  The problem is that this "fix" isn't what we need. In an already weak economy this will add to our problems. If the administration is really serious about improving healthcare and reducing cost, then enact real torte reform.  It will reduce doctor's fees, prescription drug costs, hospital fees and every facet of healthcare without increasing taxes for anyone. Right now we have doctors who are getting out of medicine because they cant afford torte insurance. That alone should tell objective people how bad it is. It will also be a cost savings to every business thus helping all areas of our economy. Bring us in line with the EU who doesn't treat torte as a form of lottery. If nothing else it would rid us of all the ridiculous lawyer ads in the media. I dont hold any hope for this because our president is a lawyer as many on both sides of the aisle in Congress.  When they decide to take us torte reform, only then will I believe they have dropped politics and done what is best for the nation.  
But reform in what manner? Moderates are currently hijacking the entire debate.

http://www.political-buzz.com/
That the country wants HCR that BoBo campaiged on is totally true. However, it is easy to promise anything when there are no details. He didn't tell us we would have to mortgage our future to achieve it. Now that the details are starting to come out, it is the American way to challenge the plans and question the consequences. Something Americans do everyday when it comes to make a purchasing decision. Yet BoBo's minions blindly support him without question. Lemmings following their leader off a cliff is one thing. However, It is NOT  Americas way of doing anything. Due diligence on such an important decision is a minimum requiremant of any decision making. Yet the libs call us names for even suggesting it let alone doing it. Blind faith leads to nowhere.
HCR is dead. It's over. DOA. Not a chance of happening. The signature legislation for the Democrats and Obama is done. And frankly, that's a good thing for America, because what Obama had proposed would have set medicine back a 100 years.

Next, cap and trade needs to be stomped out, and then after that, the remaining stimulus money needs to be cancelled.
OP Taylor, NC (Sent Monday, July 13, 2009 12:21 PM)
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So....DO NOTHING....is your answer to everything.
"OP Taylor" you should exercise your brain a little more..correction...a LOT more.

Typical...just criticize and say NO....absolutely no suggestions for alternatives fixes for our problems.

LAZY....SELFISH
Some town in Mississippi elected a black mayor who defeated a white mayor. Some of the black kids in the town ran into the white ex-mayors store to taunt him. “They was pulling down their pants, shouting, ’Kiss my black ass, because we got a black mayor’, swinging their things around and throwing stuff,” said Jennifer Green, 31, a black mother of 10.

Obamanation - catch it!
All of these writers who are "putting down" a Public Option, I'd like to see what they will do when all of the 40 million Americans who do not have healthcare gets it.  I'd like to see how they feel when their private care insurance (that they can keep if they want)premimus keep going up (and their wages do not) and if they have a catastrophic illness & need an operation and the Industry says they will not cover it, or when their prescription drugs keep going up, how they will feel.  It is truly amzing how some Americans vote against their best interests and let these health care industries walk all over them!  They are laughing all the way to the bank!  Just last week there was an article about how much the industry overcharged their subscribers.  So you narrow-minded people keep what you got and keep on paying through the nose!  (By the way I have government health care with an Insurance company and do not qualify for the Public OPTION), but I feel EVERY American should have health care as a right like most countries in the western world do.  We have the most expensive health care and are way down on the list of countries for being the healthiest!
I enjoyed the truism posted earlier that, "He wouldn't give a crust of bread to a hungry man, let alone a child.".  That's how I felt about Reagan.

I was a Republican from the time I could vote, even for "Tricky Dicky", still think Eisenhower was a great president, but when the Reagunz started taxing people on unemployment and on fulltime sick pay, I quit!  My only question is why does the government still do it?  That's who a wealthy country really needs to tax, people who can't find a job and people who can't work because of illness.
I cannot imagine why anyone would be against HCR.  We pay more for health coverage in the US than any other western nation, and get less.  BUT, the insurance companies keep getting richer.  Why do you want to make the rich richer while Americans go without insurance?  You obviously have never had to face medical bills and no coverage.  And the lies about bring us closer to socialism are amazing.  We don't want government beauracrats telling our doctors what to do?  Insurance bean counters already do.  At least the government ones aren't only concerend with making themselves rich.  HEALTHCARE SHOULD NOT BE FOR-PROFIT!!  But since we can't do that, at least a government option will help those without coverage.
MO - short for ...

You and Mark are in the same boat, always reading something dark into a brilliant paragragh. Tangled up in blue? You are drifting too far from the shore.
Come back to reality.

Bad Chihuahua (Sent Monday, July 13, 2009 12:43 PM

See you opened your mouth again and proved your self a fool, you need to keep your mouth shut and just let us think you a fool. Mo stands for Missouri dah. And by the way I might have drifted off shore, but your ship has sank.
Well I see the quacks are coming out of the woodwork now, they plan to spend a lot of money to keep the American people from getting what they deserve, i.e. universal healthcare, but it's not going to work because Obama's on the case.
I am not sure Healthcare, although I know a whole family in S.W. FL -- AGES 29, 26, 2, and 7 weeks respectively without Healthcare  - is going to get out this Summer.   Back to the West Coast of FL, only the husband works and because he makes $16.00 an hour in a 30 to 40 hour workweek, they qualify for nothing.   I find that stunning in a country this wealthy.
Barbara - Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Whats even more stunning is that the government has no problem paying for health care for undocumented people BUT REFUSES to pay Health Care for citizens of this country.

"Inaction is not an option" said NObama --- and neither should ram-it-down-our-throats politics be an option.

Senator Jeff Sessions made a brilliant point at Sotomayor's hearing ===

"the Alabama senator criticized President Barack Obama's statement that he preferred someone for the high court who has shown empathy with people ---

Sessions said that "empathy for one party is always prejudice for the other."


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