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Gen. Petraeus gives a situation report

Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:04 AM by firstread
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From NBC’s Kelly Paice
As today marks the eighth anniversary of U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and while President Obama continues to weigh the future of the Afghan war, General David Petraeus gave a situation report on the U.S. Central Command region at the annual Association of the United States Army conference yesterday.

The general began with an explanation of CENTCOM’s jurisdiction: an area comprised of 20 countries—the smallest of geographic combatant commands—but, as Gen. Petraeus described, it “has its lion share of problems.” Rich in oil and natural resources, but plagued with such issues as war and ethnic and sectarian problems, CENTCOM is “an area of haves and have-nots…that has just about every challenge that you might consider,” he contended.


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: Eight years after the war in Afgahnistan was declared, a panel discusses the state of the conflict in the country.




Iraq is just one small part of the region, a country in which Gen. Petraeus called 2009 a “transition year” and where progress is “fragile and reversible.” Nonetheless, progress is being made, as provincial governments become much more representative and as U.S. forces take on an “advise and assist” role, he furthered. U.S. forces will draw down to about 120,000 by the end of the month and to some 50,000 by the end of August next year, Petraeus predicted. “Iraqi security forces are very much shouldering tasks,” he said, but added, “There are certainly still bad guys in Iraq…and a host of challenges still to be worked out.”

General Ray Odierno, commander of Multi-National Force Iraq, recently assessed that violence in Iraq is down by about 85 percent since spring 2007. Gen. Petraeus reported that there were over 230 monthly high profile attacks in Iraq in early 2007, a number now down to about 25 per month. Gen. Petraeus further highlighted developments in Iraq afforded by improved security, such as the increase in electricity available, a rise in oil production, judicial capacity increases—for example, female trial judges are up 842 percent, although Gen. Petraeus recognized there were maybe two or three to begin with—and a showing increase in the perception of security, what Gen. Petraeus described as an “awfully important” factor.

Turning to Afghanistan, Gen. Petraeus agreed with General Stanley McChrystal’s assessment of the Afghan situation as “serious but doable,” that “requires a sustained substantial commitment.” He furthered, “Everyone agrees that additional Afghan security forces are needed,” in facing an industrial strength insurgency in the country. In addition to working to build a strong national security force in Afghanistan, Gen. Petraeus said that several community defense initiatives are currently being experimented with, as well. And he said that there is “no question that we have to take a regional approach,” especially referring to the country’s neighboring Pakistan where there has been “considerable concern and worry in the Swat valley” regarding Taliban operations; however, he furthered that there is “quite heartening progress” occurring in Pakistan. Also in the region, Gen. Petraeus called Iran “the best recruiting agent for CENTCOM,” as its missile program causes “considerable concern” along with its uranium processing operations.

Further, the commander identified the Afghan narcotics industry as a problem along with “the overall corruption that has crept into the government.” He called the legitimacy of the government “a key ingredient” to a stable, successful country. Despite “deterioration of security in certain areas,” Gen. Petraeus detailed some of the progress occurring in Afghanistan, such as access to health care increasing nearly 90 percent since 2002, great advances in telecommunications, a rising GDP, and also a great increase in education enrollment—especially among Afghan girls. He also made clear that “reintegration of reconcilables” in Afghanistan is a priority.

He concluded that al-Qaeda “certainly in the region and arguably globally…is a considerably diminished organization.” When asked to predict the U.S. commitment in Afghanistan, Gen. Petraeus was careful to only estimate a potential full development of Afghan security forces and a transfer of security leadership to the Afghans around 2013 or 2014, stressing that the development of those forces depends on the security of the region.

As top military leaders met with President Obama last week and will continue the discussion this week regarding the future steps to be taken in the region, Gen. Petraeus said, “My assessment is that we’ve had an ample opportunity to provide our best military advice.”

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You ought to be asking that question - how long is 8 months? Jeff Gollin, Holmdel, NJ (Sent Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:44 AM)
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Great post!!!  Keep posting!  


Did Obie have time to hear it or was he busy at a photo op?
MoveOn get their full page ad against Petraeus out in the NYTs again?
Petraeus is such a schmuck!
Gen. Petraeus said, “My assessment is that we’ve had an ample opportunity to provide our best military advice.”



Obama has been giving the generals that 10 minute time slot every week between his manicure and his pedicure.
When is the media gonna get us a CBO scoring of the cost over the next 10 years of sending additional troops to Afghanistan?

Is any "journalist" gonna ask for this, or is the word of unelected, generals good enough for you guys? Those uniforms sure are pretty, eh?

More double standard from the "media" more interested in putting the President in "a box" than presenting true choices based on facts to the American people.


From previous post:

To Bill in Fairfax, VA and Lynette, MA:

lol

Bill, do you deny the health insurance companies drop people who have paid for coverage to make a profit?

Bill, do you deny the health insurance companies pay their executives ENORMOUS salaries?

Bill, do you deny the health insurance companies tie employee bonuses to number of policies dropped?

Bill, how is it a "service" to pay my doctor bills with a SMALL FRACTION of the money that I have already paid you?

Hell, I can pay my doctor myself and keep the change.

And Lynette, Wall Street performance is NOT the measure of a companies actual worth . . . you'd think you would have figured that out after the last two years . . . why not just base your opinion on the Las Vegas betting lines? ROTFLMAO
Spending billions of $$$ to KILL people = GOOD!

Spending billions of $$$ to SAVE people = BAD!

It's the Republican't way...

Bombs, ammo & guns = BLANK CHECK or (Chinese VISA Card)

Health Care for all American's = NO! NO! NO!
Obama hates this war stuff for all these things that are half way around the world. It's complicated, he doesn't understand it, and it's really harshing his buzz.
Maybe if I gave a speech, would that help?
[[Further, the commander identified the Afghan narcotics industry as a problem along with “the overall corruption that has crept into the government.”]]

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Finally, some things about all this problem that Obama can understand and can relate to.
Health Care for all American's = NO! NO! NO! Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:22 AM)
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Health Care "Reform" as Gold plated gold for Trial Lawyers and syndicate-controlled Trade Unions- YES! YES!
On a different matter, Keith Olbermann tonite will be devoting his entire program to health care reform. I can’t imagine he’s going to paint a rosy picture, either for the Republicans or the Democrats. Or the present Administration. Nor should he. This is about us, the American citizens.

Keith will tell the truth. He always has, regardless of who is president. I hope you all get to watch it.
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I am getting the feeling that our country has somewhere along the way forgotten the pride we always took in being the best we can be. Whether it be our politicians, health care, education, our airlines industry, our media, infrastructure and on and on.

Have people just gotten lazy?
You ought to be asking that question - how long is 8 months? Jeff Gollin, Holmdel, NJ (Sent Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:44 AM)

Um, it's about 8 months. List of Obama accomplishments during that time is as follows:


Maybe if I gave a speech, would that help? BHO - Chicago IL (Sent Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:23 AM)
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Just grab that microphone Kanye Obama and tell them what the will of the people is! Can I get an Amen from Rev. Jesse Jackson? AMEN! TV cameras and microphones are here!
All I read are put-downs of President Carter.  Here's a newsflash!  IF the country had gotten behind his efforts to become energy independent, we would be in a WHOLE different ball game today folks.

Now we have a noose around our neck from the middle east with the oil pipeline ending in America (even,"Drill baby, Drill isn't going to produce the oil required in America) and another noose from China because of all the money we have borrowed to finance two, possibly three wars.

Don't kid yourselves, we've borrowed from India, too.  Next time you wonder where all the jobs went,  figure they were bought and paid for by India and China.  Neither President Obama, nor anyone else can create a manufacturing base out of thin air.  These jobs have been leaving for over thirty years (and it wasn't the unions that sold us down the drain, it was good old American Greed).

Now the corporations' money owns the United States Government lock, stock, and barrel.  The big laugh their getting is the two party system is so busy trying to pin blame on each other, or convert the country to Christianity, they are all being distracted from any real solutions that might get us on our feet again.

The United States has been called, the Great Experiment.  Wise up, the experiment is over!  Greed is the end result.
FR: General Ray Odierno, commander of Multi-National Force Iraq, recently assessed that violence in Iraq is down by about 85 percent since spring 2007.


That's generally what happens when you win a war. Iraq is more peaceful then Chicago.


Gen. Petraeus agreed with General Stanley McChrystal’s assessment of the Afghan situation as “serious but doable,” that “requires a sustained substantial commitment>

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Well, Gens. Petraeus and McChrystal’s assessment of the Afghan situation is not taking to account the Joe Biden approack. I would suggest Gens. Petraeus and McChrystal RETINK Afghanistan as we need our resources here. It is an unwarrantable war if the the 2 blow hearts would just read the history of people who tried to conquer Afghanistan.  We don't more body bags coming back like Viet Nam. I hope the President doesn't let these self -aggrandizing generals box him in.


“Everyone agrees that additional Afghan security forces are needed,” in facing an industrial strength insurgency in the country.
Keith will tell the truth. He always has, regardless of who is president. I hope you all get to watch it.

If the truth were a fish, and it jumped out of the water and slapped Keith in the face, he still wouldn't know what it was.
Bill, do you deny the health insurance companies pay their executives ENORMOUS salaries?
Nashville_fan (Sent Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:21 AM)
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And Bill, please ignore the TRIAL LAWYERS enormous incomes as well. Law firms are a business just like US Steel and Merck but the Dems tend to forget that as they received over $200 MILLION in donations from the Trial Lawyers in 2008.
Sounds like a lot of double talk.We have been there eight years and Petraeus and the best he can say about Iraq is "fragile and reversible "and they call this progress,and he is now finding out that there is a problem with drugs in Afghanistan.Maybe if we started paying all the afgans like we are now paying the Iraqis to not shoot at us the war in Afghanistan we could say it's fragile and reversible.He and McGeneral must have drifted to close to the poppy fields if they think this is doable,the Russians where there Ten years,and they didn't accomplish anything,but a lot of lives lost and a ton of money spent,and for what,so some Bush leftovers could continue the Bush no win war,about the only way I can see this comming to an end is to drop big bombs,the kind that wipe out Hundreds of thousands of lives,and levels the landscape,there is no doable,there is no winning there,these people hate us, and the idea that we are there,and nothing we do is going to change there way of thinking,Nothing!!!!!!!!j
Greg P. – Thanks for the back up link… you beat me to it!

Chris Dorr – Nice to see you around!

Leon, Houston – Drop in and let us know how you’re doing?

Ron/Nash & Clara – ENJOY your time off!  You’ve earned it & we’ll keep the whack job on their toes in your absence!

Eric, Salinas – Where the heck are you?
GOP jingoism is what got us into much of the mess we have now and President Obama needs to find a way out and still ensure the security of the country. eagle1776

Agreed. I hate jingoism of any kind. We need to get rid of it. Hang in there brother!

"Hope and Change!"

"Yes We Can!"
And Lynette, Wall Street performance is NOT the measure of a companies actual worth . . . you'd think you would have figured that out after the last two years . . . why not just base your opinion on the Las Vegas betting lines? ROTFLMAO

Nashville_fan


Ehhhh, stock value/wall street performance is exactly the worth of the company NF. The number of shares multiplied by it's market price is called it's market cap, which is the value of the company.
Turning to Afghanistan, Gen. Petraeus agreed with General Stanley McChrystal’s assessment of the Afghan situation as “serious but doable,” that “requires a sustained substantial commitment.”

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What a shame he didn't get that "sustained substantial commitment" from the Bush Administration.
Tick Tock

Tick Tock

Can't make up your mind Barack?

Like sands through the hour glass so are the many lives on the ground in Afghanistan with all waiting for a decisive command from the trytobe CIC. Can someone help Barack with his decision?

It's 3 am and the phone rings..........who do you want making the decision and taking that phone call?
We have many problems to solve. What are the republican solutions to these problems? I have yet to hear any cohesive arguments for an alternative plan or a different approach to any of the main issues. No substance, just attacks.
Pat in Boston I disagree with you.  John McCain IS a war hero as is John Kerry and Charlie Rangell.  Whether that makes them experts in policy areas or even honest is another matter but do not smear their past actions.  It ranks you on the same level as the swiftboat crew. "
Alan, NJ
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Serving in the military does not give you a free pass to do or say whatever you want thereafter.

If John McCain wants respect NOW, he needs to act respectable NOW.

And save the false equivalency between Pat expressing an OPINION about John McCain and the Swiftboaters telling PROVEN LIES about John Kerry
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Nashville Fan, no one said anything about a 'free pass.'  Pat maintains that McCain is no war hero;  Alan disagreed and Alan is correct.   Get off your high horse, you're becoming as bad as Anita and Feisty.
2013 or 2014?  Who needs the Olympics?  Looks like we're be going for the record in Afghanistan, instead.      
Geez, we have been there longer than the entire WWII - at least we didn't ignore it for 6 of those years for Oil and murder.

Oh, wait, we did
The military will always provide information they think appropriate to "win" wars.  The questions to ask is whether or not that is our goal or should our goal be narrower.  I'm not sure that winning is possible; we can provide troops to allow both Afghanistan and Iraq to make progress within their countries.  No matter when the US leaves, there will be violence and struggle; only the Afghan and Iraqi people can choose which side they prefer and they must be willing to fight for their own countries and their own futures.  

Petraeus has a good point about the haves and have- nots.  Trouble is, we have that same problem in the USA--the haves have more and the number of have-nots grows yearly.  

Too bad so many right wingers are losing it today.  Not one sensible comment on this thread, just petty, childish comments.
Did Keith O get the Swine Flue also?

I heard Rachel M. did.
The United States has been called, the Great Experiment.  Wise up, the experiment is over!  Greed is the end result. A Voice from Michigan (Sent Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:28 AM)
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So you and Barack will rectify that problem by taking from the haves and giving to the have nots in your infinite wisdom of what is FAIR. Correct?

Start with the $12 million a year base salary of Jeff Immelt, Chariman of General Electric, parent of NBC and GE Medical Systems.

Bill, do you deny the health insurance companies pay their executives ENORMOUS salaries?
Nashville_fan (Sent Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:21 AM)

Sigh. If you don't like what a company does, then don't buy their stocks or bonds. Bonuses are paid by every company, just why are you demonizing the insurance companies? Oh, wait, I know, because that greases the skids for Obama and the Dems to try and nationalize the insurance companies, just like Obama did with the US car makers (who both will be out of business in 6-8 months).
"If the truth were a fish, and it jumped out of the water and slapped Keith in the face, he still wouldn't know what it was"

give me an example of a lie KO has told that would lead you to that conclusion.

c'mon... waiting...
we are still mopping up the Bush mess - that is the plain and simple truth
Jim, Santa Cruz

And be careful! Your mopping Obama's messes in with Bush's messes. You're not supposed to do that!
And Bill, please ignore the TRIAL LAWYERS enormous incomes as well. Law firms are a business just like US Steel and Merck but the Dems tend to forget that as they received over $200 MILLION in donations from the Trial Lawyers in 2008.
Yo Yo BHO! How many more jobs have to go!
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Last time I checked, lawyers don't take your money to provide health insurance coverage on the front end, and then drop your coverage and leave you to die on the back end.

Another false equivalency.

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Dear Read and Learn:

Eh, if stock value/Wall Wtreet performance is exactly the worth of the company, then WTF happened with Bear Stears, Lehman Brothers, and AIG?

How did all those folks lose their retirement . . . was it because the value of those companies on Wall Street was actually a mirage?

But thanks for providing me with that textbook answer . . . as a Business Administration major, I assure you I have heard it all before.
Turning to Afghanistan, Gen. Petraeus agreed with General Stanley McChrystal’s assessment of the Afghan situation as “serious but doable,” that “requires a sustained substantial commitment.”

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What a shame he didn't get that "sustained substantial commitment" from the Bush Administration.
Pete - Albany, NY


Pete - we did get that commitment - that's why we won. Now it's Barack "Cut-and-Run" Obama's turn to step it up a notch.


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