So the marxists of the Congress have weighed in, and they support the tax cheat crook Charlie Rangel.

Whats amusing is that no one is surprised.

Keep up the good fight.  I agree and I'm elated - we will see HCR in 2009 with "a robust public option".  
Cassy1004 - Charlotte, NC (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:27 AM)
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Hey Cassy,  

Thanks so much for the explanation – you and others on board didn’t waste any time answering my question!  And thanks for the kind words… I try to do what I can with my tenacity! :0)

Greg/Chris/Anita/Houston/Cathy M. thanks to you as well for your input!  

What a sad state of affairs this countries in if this crap is what they want to focus on!
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The debate is shifting to if a talk show host went to church or not?

Andy Hayes, Boston (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:42 AM)
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There’s nothing to ‘debate’ Andy…

Just pointing out the FACT he lied!  

I don’t know about YOU but when I catch someone LYING to ME not only don’t I TRUST them – I view EVERY thing that comes out of their mouth with a heavy dose of skepticism!

If you feel other wise… good luck with THAT!

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And lastly… looks like IntheMiddle has decided to grace us with his presence here @ FR today...

What happened?  Did your anger management class let out early?

Babs Lee writea: As you know, Chairman Rangel has been subjected to repeated attacks based on  allegations that he committed errors in complex financial disclosure and tax filings


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Are they allegations if Rangel admits to them? Because Charlie does admit to them.

We have a tax cheat writing tax policy. And the Democrats approve of that fact.

This would funny if it wasn't so sad.

By the way-I have been missing in action because my grandaughter made her entrance into the world ten days ago.  She is beautiful-and, unfortunately, she got my kidneys.  Please keep her in your prayers, all of you, right and left.  Thank you.  

-no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:33 AM
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God bless you and your precious granddaughter no joe.

Why hasn't Charlie been arrested? Anyone else that did what Rangel has done would be wearing a stripped suit and playing cards with Bernie Madoff.

I'm sorry but this is WRONG!

Charlie should do the RIGHT thing and step down!

I don't want someone chairing the 'Ways & Means' committe whose 'careless' with his personal finances... and I don't care what color he is or what party he belongs to!

All members of congress should be subject to thourough yearly audits by an independent consortium.  Without exception.

Whenever you have conflict of interest with lobbyists and campaign donations, checks and balances must be kept in place, no matter what party you belong to.

If this process were in place, there would not be need for letters like this.

Although i'm sure we'd lose 80% of our legislature.

CBS- Communist BS ?

The same Communist BS and Dan Rather that FORGED documents to smear President Bush's military service?

So much for the integrity of the Fourth Estate.

Remember that NBC National Barack Cheerleaders.

How can someone defend this clown with a straight face?  

If he were not of the African American persuasion and let's go a step farther and say, well, if he were not a liberal democrat would the CBC be supporting him for a similar type of situation?

Let's look at some history and see where they draw the line. CBC = Division/Favortism/Turning a blind eye

Keith Olbermann, your special comment was excellent!

Anita, Birmingham, Alabama (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:59 AM)

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Cry us a frikken river. What a waste of T.V. time.
IntheMiddle, TX

Word is that they are replacing the Olbermann show with a test pattern. It's much more intelligent, and the msnbc crowd like Anita will still watch it and think it's wonderful.

Members of Congress should have to pass a drug test. Doing so will eliminate all the remaining Kennedy's and most if not all of the CBC.

The debate is shifting to if a talk show host went to church or not?

Andy Hayes, Boston (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:42 AM)
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There’s nothing to ‘debate’ Andy…

Just pointing out the FACT he lied!

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You know this how? You his maid or something?

Obama himself did not read the HCR bill but don’t let that be a deterrent to Feisty, Anita, MSierra, Nashville and any other of the dozen or so daily Obama cheerleaders.

The multimillionaires Jeff Immelt (General Electric/NBC) and Bill Gates (Microsoft) will give you lefties your little orange crate to bellow against "the rich" and "big business" in support of Obama, while they and their huge multinationals continue to outsource jobs to China and India and will profit mightily from "healthcare digitization" and "green energy".

Rave on fools. You are being played like a violin by the ultra rich. The very people you despise!

The congressional black caucus says,"Why should not paying taxes be such a bad thing?"

Hello, it's called wealth redistribution and cutting those who are in need out of his available funds is down right nasty.

Never over look the friendly well meaning crook.

He's getting busted if he's a Republican and we all know it. No protection, just rejection.

Obama himself did not read the HCR bill, but don’t let that be a deterrent to Feisty, Anita, MSierra, Nashville and any other of the dozen or so daily Obama cheerleaders.

The multimillionaires Jeff Immelt (General Electric/NBC) and Bill Gates (Microsoft) will give you lefties your little orange crate to bellow against "the rich" and "big business" in support of Obama, while they and their huge multinationals continue to outsource jobs to China and India and will profit mightily from "healthcare digitization" and "green energy".

Rave on fools. You are being played like a violin by the ultra rich. The very people you despise!

New amendment in the Constitution:

"Americans must not die."

It's going to get kind of crowded around here once that one gets enforced . . . .

I don’t know about YOU but when I catch someone LYING to ME not only don’t I TRUST them – I view EVERY thing that comes out of their mouth with a heavy dose of skepticism!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:54 AM)

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I feel the same way with Obama's lies.  Why is it that you trust him again?  After what you just said about liars?????

What happened?  Did your anger management class let out early?

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:54 AM)

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Obviously, you've never attended anger management.  Or hate management.  

from NBC's Mike Viqueira
The Congressional Black Caucus has sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, expressing support for Representative Charlie Rangel, the embattled chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee and founding member of the caucus.
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Hang in there and go through the proper process. It's the right thing to do. Republicans, you got ACORN with your hasty BS. But this one will be conducted the correct way.


From another thread:

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/health-care-overhaul-constitutional/
David Howell, George Washington University
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Well hot damn! So now you want to call foul? Credit Bureaus targeting people by leasing information to potential creditors is unconstitutional as well. How about the "use of our friggin social security numbers"? If you're going to complain, then do so straight across the board and stop "cherry picking".

Feisty--I got your shout out. Mo thanks for the shout out!

Common sense says that you don't put the fox in charge of the henhouse, no matter what his affiliations are.  Having a tax cheat appropriate tax dollars is insane.

If Mr. Rangel is cleared, then he can be reinstated.  Until then, he should step down.  

Isn't this the same Black Caucus that was all starry-eyed and giddy over meeting that Cuban dictator??????

Well.....at least they didn't bow down to him like Obie and the Saudi King.

What would Barack do in a situation like this?

Tick Tock
Tick Tock

Thought so. More of the same. Nothing.

Tick Tock
Tick Tock

Made any decisions lately other than what to have for lunch. Ooops. Menu is planned. No decision necessary, just how Barack likes it.

Did somebody say there was a TV op?


Barack Hussien Obama  Mmmmmmm, Mmmmmmmmm, Mmmmmmmm

All members of congress should be subject to thourough yearly audits by an independent consortium.  Without exception.
Greg P. NW Indiana (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:58 AM)
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Start with the seven wealthiest US Senators, who are all Democrats by the way. No exceptions.

no joe, no bo, nj: "my grandaughter made her entrance into the world ten days ago."

Congratulations no joe.  And welcome back, you were missed.

The CBC is slipping. They forgot to blame Bush.

WRONG IS WRONG, Barbara bad Haircut LEE! The CBC would support a rat if it was AA. Rangel is as foul as a spoiled piece of catfish.

The only thing he should be chairman of is that dirty azz toilet in his office.

I beleive Rangel should step aside until this matter is cleared up. We all remember the GOP's failing's & that being the sole reason for such landslide's in the last 2 cycles.If he's Guilty, burn his Butt, if he's Not, putem back in his Chairmanship position.

When speaking of the average person, that rules out 95% of Republican's, so they could Never finish reading Any final bill !

So the head of the IRS is a tax cheat and the head of the house ways and means committe is a tax cheat and we're supposed to accept that.  Either they don't know enough about tax law to be in their positions or they are corrupt scumbags.  They need to be replaced.

The Congressional Black Caucus sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, expressing support for Representative Charlie Rangel.....That's one I did not see coming!!!

Fiesty,,,Michelle Bachmann's district is all white and all right,she is a walking freak show,and her followers think she is the bomb,just like the basers like Fail-in so much.Most in sota think she is a joke,and she has not disappointed  any one.The woman is a Rush repeater,she is not bright enough to think up all the crazy stuff she says.so Please don't lump all of us into the same ball of clay,she does not represent me or where i live so I can't change her districts leadership with My vote,she is so much like Fail-in,not hard on the eyes,but short on Matter upstairs,walk and chew gum at,,,,you get the drift.
jesse St Paul MN (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:30 AM)
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Hey Jesse!

I would NEVER lump you or the rest of the great posters from MN into the Bachmann debacle!

Thanks so much for the insight… every state has at LEAST one of ‘those’ districts!  The county I live in for MANY MANY years was bright red!  It’s only been the last couple of years it’s turned a beautiful shade of purple! (Even if I had countless Obama signs stolen from my yard last year!)LOL  I told my husband that if they kept it up I would paint the side of my house!

I’m sorry but that woman is JUST PLAIN bat sh!t CRAAAZZEEE!  LOL

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She is beautiful-and, unfortunately, she got my kidneys.  Please keep her in your prayers, all of you, right and left.  Thank you

no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:33 AM)

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CONGRATS on the birth of your newborn grandaughter!  I’ll keep her in my prayers!

Headline: CBC Writes Letter to Pelosi

Okay, who helped them?

is this what Pelosi means by "draining the swamp"?It seems the Democrats are as corrupt as the republicans.Mr Wilson should have said "you all lie".I will think of old charlie when I file my taxes next year as he is giving us the rules that he does not follow.

Isn't this the same Black Caucus that was all starry-eyed and giddy over meeting that Cuban dictator??????

Well.....at least they didn't bow down to him like Obie and the Saudi King.
Keep the Change

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We are really, really screwed . . . . .

Why is it when someone we elect gets to Washington they feel they can lie, cheat the very same people who gave them their job. All elected officials should be prohibited from serving more than 2 terms in office.

How can someone defend this clown with a straight face?  
Drain the swamp, indeed

You don't know Bobby Rush very well, do you?

And why are all these white people still around here?

Heaven forbid a republican female be good looking and voted in office.She will be called brainless,idiot,stupid and have crap thrown at her by the ugly minded democrats,especially the women.Come on dems you are making it too easy.

Charlie Rangel has for years been a great representative for his district and he was a war hero in the Korean War. However, if he is guilty of what he has been accused of, he should resign his seat, go home and accept his punishment. He does have the right of due process, of course.

To no jo - God Bless your granddaughter. May she receive all the care this country can give and live a long and healthy life.

Please allow the following post that I have not been able to get in on time for the past several days.

I am hopeful that Ron, Ind is correct that the base issue of choice will be replaced by Afghanistan for at least the 2010 midterm elections, but I'm not so sure. The religious right will never let this issue go, as it represents their stranglehold over the Republican Party. That said, I still believe, as most of my liberal friends, that no one can legislate morality.

While I believe President Obama needs to listen to his generals in regard to both wars, I wish he would give some weight to the opinion to the grunts on the ground. Those I have talked to say the opposition in Afghanistan are incredibly competent, regardless of their training or equipment. I saw a short time ago, a British Harrier fighter jet, about to crash with the pilot, having ditched, in the air, his parachute already opening. The Taliban ground forces were in the picture, their meager AK-47s in hand. With all of our military might, how is it we can not defeat such an opposition? The answer lies in the fact that those Afghanistan forces fighting on our side, with superior training and equipment, do not stand a chance against the Taliban. Until these people have the will to survive and defeat the enemy, our presence will always be a necessity...

I only hope General McCrystal and/or General David Patreas have no immediate political ambitions. Because of the media speculation, I think it is in the best interests of the country to make their intentions known and if they do have such ambitions, they should resign. The "Team of Rivals" theme has been uncanny in its accuracy of the Obama Administration. I only hope the opposition of the Democrat General McClellan in Lincoln's second election does not follow suit.

Jay Leno, of all people raised an interesting point the other night. When an Afghan farmer said he was forced to grow poppy fields in order to feed his family, Leno asked, "How about trying to grow some food?" How about we find appropriate cash crops for the Afghanistan environment and help educate and provide economic assistance to help the farmers get the crops started? Remember the old adage that providing a fish will feed a man for a day, but a fishing pole will feed a family for a life...

Regrettably, the minority has repeatedly attempted to make an end-run around the  bipartisan procedures for investigating possible ethics issues. These Republican  attempts to presume guilt before an investigation has been completed violate the  core American principle of the presumption of innocence. These attempts also will  discourage Members in the future from self-reporting any potential ethics issues,  and will distract from the important work of the House to fix the economy, put  Americans back to work, and improve access to health care.

This is the core of the letter and obviously what is happening. I am glad that the CBC pointed that out. When the last Administration stomped all over the Constitution not one word was uttered by the GOP leadership, little was said about Larry Craig, Mark Foley and others in their party when wrong doing was proven yet when ILLEGED wrong doing is reported about their opposition they want to come all unglued. Such hypocrites.

Either way you look at it, Rangel will be out of his position when the Republicans take oven next year.
Let the investigations begin.

The filthy rich and huge corporations favored by the Republicans aren't tax cheats are they? No, they just don't pay taxes because of all the loop holes. Ken Lay was the exception because he wasn't smart enough to know when to stop cooking the books and ripping off California regarding electricity.

Start with the seven wealthiest US Senators, who are all Democrats by the way. No exceptions. Clean up your own house millionaire Dems- tax the rich! (Sent Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:22 PM)
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nope...hit every office at the same time, no warning.

Then we will keep score.

Congratulations on the new addition to the family…..I will make sure I add her to my prayers.  But we all know she will be okay; Since you to carry the same blood line… We know she very strong willed.

Wonder what the congressional white caucus has to say about all of this.  Does the CWC also support the cheat. Actually the investigation is now been in progress for 18 months and will continue until his passing.  Of course, it will be dropped then out of respect for his legacy and family. - Glenn

David Howell, George Washington University
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Well hot damn! So now you want to call foul? Credit Bureaus targeting people by leasing information to potential creditors is unconstitutional as well. How about the "use of our friggin social security numbers"? If you're going to complain, then do so straight across the board and stop "cherry picking".

Feisty--I got your shout out. Mo thanks for the shout out!
Anita, Birmingham, Alabama



A question was being answered on the constitutionality of hcr, and it appears you agree with the assessment that hcr in it's current form is more then likely unconstitutional. Welcome aboard!

Wonder what the congressional white caucus has to say about all of this.  Does the CWC also support the cheat. Actually the investigation is now been in progress for 18 months and will continue until his passing.  Of course, it will be dropped then out of respect for his legacy and family. - Glenn

I think there should be an investigation but I think there is enough proof for him to step down from his leadership post.  But he should make the decision. And I am a democrat.

Apparently, the Congressional White Caucus wants Rangel punished

But, the Congressional White caucus didn't support punishment for Speaker Gingrich or Speaker DeLay when they were caught breaking the law

How about Sen David Vitter ?
He admitted a long time relationship with a hooker
A couple of other hookers have said they had 'relationships' with Senator Vitter
One put daipers on his little fanny

How about Sen John Enisgn ?
He was up to his eyeballs in bribery and extortion with his play mate and her husband
Didn't HE get a standing ovation from the Senatorial White Caucus ??

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander

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