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Hoyer: Christmas deadline no guarantee

Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:01 PM by firstread
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from NBC's Luke Russert
At his weekly off camera pen and pad session with Capitol Hill reporters, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) would not guarantee that a healthcare reform bill would be passed by Christmas. When asked by NBC News if reform would pass by the holiday, Hoyer said, "Can I guarantee that? No. Do I think it will? Yes."

Responding to another question about healthcare reform timing and the Christmas holiday, Hoyer said, "Healthcare, we want to get that done, although I don't guarantee it, certainly we are going to get it done in the House. And I'm hopeful that during this next month and half we will be working with the Senate…once they decide what they are going to do and what we are going to do, we'll talk about how we are going to resolve differences that we have."

Hoyer also predicted that financial regulatory reform would start to take shape in the next month, “Barney Frank's committee is working and focused on regulatory reform. It's going to start marking up this week and it's going to be focusing on the administration's proposal in addition to other issues related to derivatives and credit default swap.”

Hoyer went on to say Frank’s Financial Services Committee would work towards “the establishment of a consumer financial protection agency. That agency is designed to focus from a consumer perspective as opposed to a financial institutions operational standpoint.”

According to Hoyer, the regulatory reform bill should be on the House floor “within the next three to four weeks.”

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It is a shame that democrats are not passing a bill that includes public option because they want the vote of 4-5 moderates. It does not make sense to me. Over 60% of the american people on the cbs poll want public option. There are more people in the senate and the house who want the public option. Last time I checked majority rules. It is very easy for those senators to be aganist public option when they have insurance. Despite frustration, I am hopeful that we get public option.
I don't think it will be signed by Christmas, the majority in the country want a public option and that joke of a Bill approved yesterday lacks one!! That is NOT HCR!!

Hoyer is right; this will be a fight; however, a fight we must fight, even if it takes longer for a REAL HCR Bill to be signed into law!!

This democrat will stay home in 2012 if President Obama signs into law ANY HCR Bill without a public option!!
I believe that as an AMERICAN  citizen I am entitled to have a copy of the proposed plan in my hand 72 hours before it is voted on.  Is this another railroad job.  The finance committee of which the "turncoat Mr. O. Stone  supported doesn't even have a plan in hand!
Swanhild Tess, Brookfield, WI 53045
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Ummm… a little demanding aren’t we?

It WAS posted on-line for 72 hours before vote… you know on the maze of tubes and all.. lol…

And I hate to be the one to break it to you… but… I believe you mean MS. Olympia Snowe?

As a matter of fact Senator Snowe was the one that requested it and the Finance Committe obliged.

Do try to keep up…
Merry Christmas everyone...if the Dems get their way, you get to pay extra taxes and higher costs for 3 years before any benefits kick in.  And the CBO can't even guarantee that the cost of health care will drop then.  I guess anything can be called deficit neutral if you pay 10 years for 7 years worth of benefits.
First it was August.  Then Thanksgiving.  Now Christmas.  Just like Obie, Congress is making it up as they go along.
Why wasn't the headline, "Hoyer Thinks Heathcare will pass by the holidays!"  I mean, come on, if you are going to put some spin on things, at least make it positive spin!  I mean, I doubt Hoyer will guarantee the Earth will keep going around the Sun until the holidays, he's a politician and they won't/can't guarantee anything, it's in their nature!
The Grinch stole Christmas by passing HRC.
Does anyone know if dental coverage is included in the health care reform bill?  

Because all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth ....  
Pam (earlier)

Do you still think Mays would have hit 800 HR's if he DIDN'T play in SF?
Jessica, a question. What are you liberals going to do when the money runs out?
Cranes - CA (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:45 PM)

What did Dubyass, YOU and the rest of you whack jobs do when the money ran out?  Printed more and ran up the deficit!! Seriously, how you say the idiotic things you do with a straight face amazes me!! Get a grip!!  President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was the last president in more than 30 years to balance a budget and run a surplus!!
Fact Checker
“When the Democrats had control the last two years, that's when unemployment went to 7.2%.”
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That is because the economic downturn had already started.

What legislation was passed, in that time frame, to cause the increase in unemployment?
What legislation bid Bush veto?
Pam (earlier)
Do you still think Mays would have hit 800 HR's if he DIDN'T play in SF?
Full Moon (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:35 PM)

You mean if he didn't play at Candlestick?  YES!! He would have hit over 800 at PacBell IN San Francisco; it wasn't the city, it was the ball park!! I can feel those winds at the Stick as I type this!!

How've you been, by the way?

But I want it, I want it, I want it!!
Jessica, a question. What are you liberals going to do when the money runs out?
Cranes - CA (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:45 PM)

What did Dubyass, YOU and the rest of you whack jobs do when the money ran out?  Printed more and ran up the deficit!! Seriously, how you say the idiotic things you do with a straight face amazes me!! Get a grip!!  President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was the last president in more than 30 years to balance a budget and run a surplus!!
Pam, San Pedro, California


Yet another stupid liberal that can't answer a simple question without writing a totally irrelevant essay about Bush.
Does anyone know if dental coverage is included in the health care reform bill?  

Because all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth ....  

Anna Molly's Magical Mystery Tour

Psychological coverage too. You know, for the times when you're feeling blue, like when your government check doesn't arrive on the 1st day of the month.

Yet another stupid liberal that can't answer a simple question without writing a totally irrelevant essay about Bush.
Get Lost (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:59 PM)

Hit a nerve?? Thought so!! The truth always hurts you Bush-loving nut jobs!!
This democrat will stay home in 2012 if President Obama signs into law ANY HCR Bill without a public option!!
Pam, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:13
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Geeze!  This one makes Feisty Redhead & Anita look tame by comparision!!
Fact Checker
“When the Democrats had control the last two years, that's when unemployment went to 7.2%.”
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That is because the economic downturn had already started.

What legislation was passed, in that time frame, to cause the increase in unemployment?
What legislation bid Bush veto?

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

What did Bush veto? Nothing. The legislation he had the Republicans introduce in both houses of Congress that would have cleaned up the Fannie/Freddie sub-prime mess was thrown out of committee by the likes of Dodd and Frank. It never saw Bush's desk.
Yet another stupid liberal that can't answer a simple question without writing a totally irrelevant essay about Bush.
Get Lost (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:59 PM)

Truth hurts; go lick your wounds!!
Fruity Redhead. My arent we a bit snarky. Try not to use that haircolor that gets absorbed by your brain. It's definitely coloring you nasty.
Fruity Redhead. My arent we a bit snarky. Try not to use that haircolor that gets absorbed by your brain. It's definitely coloring you nasty.
Will some one tell this dummy what BTW stands for.
Mo

BTW - Barack The Wimp

I know you meant to say BTW - Barack the Wonderful!! You're forgiven.
J. Ellis, Virginia


Yes, he is so wonderful, isn't he? Just a hunk! Did you hear, he won a Nobel Peace Prize. I know! Get out! He did though! Here, below I'd like to list the accomplishments Mr. Wonderful has made to the American people:


Yet another stupid liberal that can't answer a simple question without writing a totally irrelevant essay about Bush.
Get Lost (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:59 PM)

Yeah, right, okay and sure!! Irrelevant?!?! HA!!!! You all whine about Obama spending money that will benefit millions of Americans; yet NONE of you whined when Dubyass spent like there was no tomorrow!! Irrelevant?!?! I think NOT!! Truth hurts you?!?! I think YES!! Oh the smell of GOP hypocrisy!! Stinks!!
"... certainly we are going to get it done in the House ...". May I remind Rep. Hoyer, with very little, if any, Republican support. This is all "YOURS" 'pardner. We want no part in this. We will be able to sleep well at night.

And Democrats should be forewarned. The ONLY reason they won in 2006 and 2008 was because of disatisfaction with the Republicans under Bush, not because of any overwheliming satisfaction with them. Republicans got elected to limit government, and they did the opposite.

Many Americans are still very skeptical when it comes to government power. And recent poll numbers are showing that Independents are becoming increasingly skeptical.
But I want it, I want it, I want it!!
Typical Liberal (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:58 PM)

George W. Bush has joined us!! Oh boy can we have some fun!!

What's up jackass? How does it feel to be probably the most unpopular human being in the world?  
Jessica, a question. What are you liberals going to do when the money runs out?
Cranes - CA (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:45 PM)

What did Dubyass, YOU and the rest of you whack jobs do when the money ran out?  Printed more and ran up the deficit!! Seriously, how you say the idiotic things you do with a straight face amazes me!! Get a grip!!  President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was the last president in more than 30 years to balance a budget and run a surplus!!
Pam, San Pedro, California


Yet another stupid liberal that can't answer a simple question without writing a totally irrelevant essay about Bush.

Get Lost (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:59 PM)

Actually, it is relevant to mention Bush; he was the POTUS who started both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, gave tax cuts to the richest 1%, every law passed by him with the backing of the Republican Congress was an unfunded mandate, and spent like a drunk on a spree.  It amazes me that the Republicans have no problems at all for Bush to spend money overseas for eight years, including US tax dollars supporting health care for the Iraqis, but expect President Obama to get the mess created in eight years to be corrected in nine (9) months!!!!!

Also, the bailouts to the bankers and Wall Street started under Bush as well!!!
Dear Pembrook ~ Good idea.  Will it also cover my prescription for grape kool-aid?  
What's up jackass? How does it feel to be probably the most unpopular human being in the world?  

Pam, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:20
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Gotta disagree with you on THAT one... Cheney is #1 in my book... Numbnuts George has second place wrapped up!

With the ways things are going Cheney's 'spawn' Lizzard is quickly moving up to 3rd!
This democrat will stay home in 2012 if President Obama signs into law ANY HCR Bill without a public option!!
Pam, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:13
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Geeze!  This one makes Feisty Redhead & Anita look tame by comparision!!

Wild Things for $400 Please Alex!


All the same. Don't think so? Watch for the identical mis-spellings.
WHY not start HCR BEFORE 2013 ??
If HCR will help people, start as soon as possible !!

At least implement parts of it

Catastrophic insurance to prevent people from going bankrupt due to Health costs

The Public Option (if included) to allow people to get affordable Health Insurance
Maybe for the unemployed and elderly

How about rules preventing Health Insurance companies from denying coverage for legitmate Medical claims and from kicking out people who develop health problems ?


START HIS BEFORE the 2010 Elections !!
It'll make a difference


Remember when Bush/Rove would change the Alert Levels to influence elections ?
There are no guarantees for anything in life but HCR can be done by Christmas with hard work.  Those of us supporting a public or free choice option must do our part by writing our legislators and reminding them who provides their paychecks.

Just heard Sen Mary Landrieu say that the reason people support a public option is because they want free health care.  She's the first democrat I've heard claim that a public option will be free.  Senators Rockefeller, Schummer, Dodd, Wyden--time to sit down with Landrieu and other blue dogs and give them the facts because some of them must be listening to FOX cable channel.  If those who choose the public option are paying a premium to the government, it is not free.  Medicare isn't free either, premiums are paid by the recipients.  

Meanwhile, back on the ranch some right wingers appear to be under the illusion that health care premiums will not rise IF there is no HCR bill.  We've never had a public option or health care reform and the premiums have risen 428% in the last decade.
Claudia,

Were you born a stupid, childish brat or did that take a few years to develop?
Tired of the children posting here (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:11 PM)

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Yep, name-calling and personal attacks are *REAL* grown up.  Look in the mirror.  Hypocrite.
The Truth:
"The legislation he had the Republicans introduce in both houses of Congress that would have cleaned up the Fannie/Freddie sub-prime mess was thrown out of committee by the likes of Dodd and Frank. It never saw Bush's desk."
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That legislation was introduced while Republicans had the majority.
They couldn't get enough of their own party to pass the proposed bill out of committee?

Sounds like Demoncrats :)
With the ways things are going Cheney's 'spawn' Lizzard is quickly moving up to 3rd!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:29 PM)

You're absolutely right!! Thanks for the correction!! The second most hated man is here!! :)
Dear Pembrook ~ Good idea.  Will it also cover my prescription for grape kool-aid?  
Anna Molly's Magical Mystery Tour

No. But it will cover your chronic diarrhea medicine.
Back to Putin, it WAS Dubyass that "looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul and trusted him."  Yet one more idiotic statement in the list of thousands!!

Hey, GOP, how's Dubyass's judgement working for you now?!?!
Remember when Bush/Rove would change the Alert Levels to influence elections ?

MSierra, SF


Things sure have changed. Now Obama borrows trillions from Chinese and buys votes.
Keep the change.  There was NEVER a goal to have HCR passed and signed by August.  August recess was the target for both House and Senate to have bills ready and merged within their own side so that when they returned from break, they could begin the work of merging the final House and Senate bills.  Four of the five committees met that date.  Because the Baucus Finance Committee with its GOP foot draggers were not done, the House delayed action in formally merging their committee bills.  Like any good business, goals are set, HCR is a goal but if it takes longer to get it right, that is what we should want.  
All the same. Don't think so? Watch for the identical mis-spellings.
Sybil (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:29 PM)

Really?  You right-wingers crack me up; no, you actually make me vomit!!
Pam, San Pedro

I'm doin' fine. As leader, in part, of the Chihuahua Gang on this blog whenever we chime in and the moderators let us have our say. And we appreciate that.

You wouldn't like us much, although I think we're a real good time. Entertainment is sorely lacking here.

As I remember, we fought quite a bit, apologized, then fought some more. It's been a couple of years.
You were the queen of the Dems and wanted Hillary president. I was your foe but I'd rather have Hillary in there than what we've wound up with.
I don't like or trust Obama, pure and simple. No backbone. His magic wand is melting.

I remember asking you if you had any conservative friends and suddenly the Newshole went haywire so I didn't get my answer. I guess it's a moot issue anyway. I went at it with CA quite a bit. Anna Molly was a good sport with the music and all but she's gotten a bit rad lately. Nothing stays the same.

Anyway, I wish you well, except politically.
The Service was lucky to have you.

- FM
Don't worry Prseident Obama this is not a can so no kicking because we don't have another kickers.We know a lot is on the table but your Democratic members need to have manner's and one is repect like the wishes of the people we are willing to stand without it so just as long as our Democratic Congress member's are put on notice that they are the ones who let us down, you did your job by winning the White House just so all those campaign promises and the same Congress you were part of could set the tone on policy these votes were not a gift and the price was high some of us lost frienships and insurance we beleive you will deliver Sir you have the whole world in your hands now don't worry everthing you ran on was predestined and lined up just find but those among the ranks are who they are and humilty and guilt will take care of them i say this by noticing everytime baucus speaks it seem like it starting to hurt already those lies are choking him and to everyone in the House we understand you role more and more you are for  mainstreet and we know it and will show it just don't bend onour behalf that option is the only right thing to do to control what has spiraled out of control.
No surprise here.  There was never a diplomatic coup in the first place.  That Obama was dissed by the Iranians, the Russians and probably the Chinese was a foregone conclusion and there's really nothing to be ashamed of.  It's been the lot of all recent presidents when it comes to Iran, regardless of approach.

The real problem is how many people actually thought this president had gotten anywhere in the first place, especially when the Russians signaled this "setback" within a day of the original "success".

So where does this place the slobbering pavlovian syncophants that attributed almost godlike status to Obama's "abilities" in dealing with Iran?
Richard, Washington State

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I guess that puts them back to square one and blaming everything on Bush.

Don't worry Prseident Obama this is not a can so no kicking because we don't have another kickers.We know a lot is on the table but your Democratic members need to have manner's and one is repect like the wishes of the people we are willing to stand without it so just as long as our Democratic Congress member's are put on notice that they are the ones who let us down, you did your job by winning the White House just so all those campaign promises and the same Congress you were part of could set the tone on policy these votes were not a gift and the price was high some of us lost frienships and insurance we beleive you will deliver Sir you have the whole world in your hands now don't worry everthing you ran on was predestined and lined up just find but those among the ranks are who they are and humilty and guilt will take care of them i say this by noticing everytime baucus speaks it seem like it starting to hurt already those lies are choking him and to everyone in the House we understand you role more and more you are for  mainstreet and we know it and will show it just don't bend onour behalf that option is the only right thing to do to control what has spiraled out of control.
I just love it when the news media ask questions that when answer will generate other news - which would other wise not be news at all.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
It is funny and hypocritical to see the righties whine about how much is being spent by the Democrats. When George W. inherited the White House there was a huge surplus from the DEMOCRAT before him. In less than a year he turned that into a deficit with the help of a Republican controlled rubber stamp Congress. Those very guys who are carping and whining about deficit spending were the most responsible for going along with whatever Dubya wanted.

Mr. Hoyer, nor anyone else, knows when the HCR bill will be ready for President Obama's signature. It WILL happen. They are working on it and intend to get it right. The GOPers can be a part of it or not it is up to them. So far all they want to do is obstruct the will of the people.

Regulation and a so called public option shouldn't be necessary but the greed prompted and proped up by GOPers and their beliefs, policies, and practices have made it necessary to go that way. Companies who are responsible to society and not take advantage of those they serve through their greed rarely have a problem with regulation. Unfortunately greed is the pass word at GOP functions as it meets their tenets. It wasn't alwasy that way. We had periods when they fostered real community responsibility and warned about greed but we haven't seen that from a Republican since Eisenhower. He warned about the military industrial complex. We are seeing the very thing Gen. Eisenhower warned about. The greed of a few hurt the many and now the many are rebelling by puting more and more regulations on the greedy to curb the greed and force them to be responsible or go out of business. In other countries where they have public and private health coverage both thrive because the private is well regulated thus preventing the kind of greed that has taken hold here.

Pam, San Pedro, George W. Bush isn't just the most unpopular human being in the world right now but he will arguably go down in history as our worst president ever. Much to the delight of James Buchanan supporters Bush will take over the bottom spot. While some presidencies were corrupt others incompetent the Bush Administration was both. Of course there were those that were neither corrupt nor incompetent and that is most of them.

I have nothing against Republicans in general. Some of my best friends are Republicans but they are not in favor of the people currently running the GOP. These are a bunch of radical, extremist, right wing Fascist wannabes who put party first and country second or third (Kind of like the Nazis in the 1930s). I am not saying that they are Fascists or Nazis but any earnest student of American history will realize that they are the closest we have ever come to that kind of totalitarian regime. Some day they will reform. They will become so marginalized that a third party may emerge from the ashes of the Republican party just as that party emerged from the ashes of the Whigs who emerged from the ashes of the Federalists. Maybe the new party can be called Phoenix party because they keep emerging from the ashes of the former conservative party becoming ever more progressive with each manifestation.

I love the hypocrisy of those on the right who whined about Clinton this and Clinton that and how wonderful Reagan was but let us say one word about Bush and that is just unforgivable and irrelevant. Presidential Administrations have impact no matter who the president is. Sometimes that impact is positive and sometimes it is negative. In George W. Bush's case it is negative. Unfortunately he wasn't all people thought he would be. Too bad as he had potential but like everything else he did he screwed it up only this time daddy and daddy's pals weren't there to save Dubya's butt.

I have voted for Democrats, Independants, and Republicans but don't vote Republican as long as those who now control the party continue to act like they do. It is nothing personal to their supporters. You can't pick a winner all the time.
dow above 10000....the market sure is "worried" about healthcare reform...

Looks like the sky isn't falling afterall

Full Moon (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:47 PM)

I'm glad you're doing well; yes, we argued and made up; and it has been a couple of years!! I was an ardent supporter of Hillary Clinton's and still believe she was the better choice.  Sadly, she stood no chance against the brutally sexist media, and a media that fell in love with one candidate.  

I also am glad she is where she is; it took me a while, and a dear friend's words, to make me realize she is better off where she is, even though she was treated so badly!!

I have a few conservative friends; the last couple of years of BushCo they refused to discuss him - they were even disgusted!! I felt it cowardly since they voted for him twice and defended him for nearly six years - then they came around to realizing he was never qualified and did a lot of damage and the conversation was hands off - oh well!!

Again, glad you're doing well and I only post here occasionally; I don't watch MSNBC any longer; I stopped during the primaries - I can't stand Olbermann and think his ego needs a big, fat check!!

Take care!!

eagle1776 -

Pam, San Pedro, George W. Bush isn't just the most unpopular human being in the world right now but he will arguably go down in history as our worst president ever.

Well, to liberals he is, but because liberals don't believe in religion, that is, the worship of God, they believe instead in worshipping their favorite leaders, like Barack Obama. And if you have good, Obama, then you must have a counterpoint evil, that would be Bush. From that, you get these nutty rants like from the dunce above.
eagle1776 (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:59 PM)

Excellent post!! I have never voted for a republican, unless you count Diane Feinstein; I just don't agree with their policies!! I do, however, see as an adult there were some good people in the Party, Gerald Ford, for example!! The GOP needs a Gerald Ford; sadly, they have no one even close!!

All the same. Don't think so? Watch for the identical mis-spellings.
Sybil (Sent Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:29 PM)

Really?  You right-wingers crack me up; no, you actually make me vomit!!
Pam, San Pedro, California

Lemon juice will get that vomit out of your petticoat. Same for your hair, and it will work for the gnats too.


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