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Pelosi denies Snowe in control

Posted: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:08 PM by firstread
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from NBC's Luke Russert and Ali Weinberg
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pushed back on, but did not outright deny, the idea that Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME) has more influence in the health care debate than the Speaker does. Snowe’s vote in favor of the Senate Finance Committee’s health care bill is thought by some to have opened the door to the future votes of Democrats from conservative voting districts.

When asked by a reporter today whether Sen. Snowe had more sway than herself, Speaker Pelosi said, "If I may say, a strange question. It is not about who has what kind of influence, it's a question of what is the best approach for America's middle class."

Pelosi also seemed to try to assuage the concerns of labor unions today, saying that all efforts to enact health care reform have the middle class's best interest at heart.
 
Labor unions like the AFL-CIO and AFSCME have criticized the Senate Finance Committee's health reform bill for its tax on high-end insurance plans which, the unions argue, would also end up affecting middle class union workers with generous health benefits.
 
Pelosi said, "I want to send our company to the table with the most muscle for America's middle class. It is about going into that room and coming out with the best coverage and lowest cost for America's families."
 
Addressing another concern of labor unions, many of which advocate a public insurance option, Pelosi said, "a need for a public option is very clear and as I have said, our House bill will have a public option."

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Catfight!

(I'm a sexist, too.  Did I just commit a crime?)
FR--Addressing another concern of labor unions, many of which advocate a public insurance option, Pelosi said, "a need for a public option is very clear and as I have said, our House bill will have a public option."
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Hummmm, I just posted this...the Labor unions like the AFL-CIO and AFSCME are mearly keeping their feet to the fire and grateful I'm.

Mk, MO:

I see that you haven't been following what's been happening. First of all...the Baucus bill out of the Finance Committee isn't final...it's just a start. There will be deletions and additions before the bill gets to the President. It isn’t law just yet…

First Read--please put the schoolhouse rock cartoon back out here. It's what's needed for the "big" children to understand what is happening and how government works.
Geez...  what a stupid question...  Is 'Gotcha Gregory' contagious?  
Guess you can't listen very well.
Obama talked only about Payroll taxes.
There will be other tax increases just like there were during Reagan to off set some of his tax cuts.
Dennis, Columbus, Ohio (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:55 PM)

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Well, clean the wax out of your ears, Dennis, because if you were listening, you sure didn't hear.

Obie clearly said no new taxes of ANY KIND for people under $250K. He did not limit it to payroll taxes.  
Pelosi is right on target.  It is not about Snowe's influence, it is about healthcare for middle class America.  Actually Snowe is playing her cards well to get the most influence possible.  

When it's all said and done, and we have health care reform, it will be tough for Republicans to go to their home districts and say they are working for the middle class. Americans are paying more attention than they used to...and will vote anyone out who is not working on their behalf.
It's simple. If the bill out of Senate does not have a robust public option and the final bill out of Senate and Congress does not have a robust public option then Senator Olympia Snowe has more influence and power than House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Yes Nancy lets pander to the unions with those cadillac health plans most of us can only dream of...oh yeah and lets send soem more 250 checks to people who produce absolutley nothing in this country.
PELOSI VS. SNOWE

Put both of them in mud and let 'em fight it out.
We're in the mood to see Nancy's face shoved in it.

The bigger picture here is that Pelosi has the ego of Obama, and either is in denial over every damn thing imaginable or is in such a mental state that she should be institutionalized.

And after the mud, there's always room for Jello.



Full Moon
Bad Chihuahua
Palomino ... and the rest.
Does that clear things up?
Richard, Washington State
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Reading is fundamental and understanding is a mutha--shut my mouth! I’ve got to sing off I know you’ll’’ have something to say that is a smart ass comment, therefore I answer WHATEVER on tomorrow morning. Good day.

I't actually raining here and it's not pee!
Americans are paying more attention than they used to...and will vote anyone out who is not working on their behalf. Ron Indiana (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:51 PM)
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amen to that brother

The media keeps proving my point about wanting to create controversy.  When there are real questions about the legislation, why waste one asking something as trivial as the Snowe question.  It doesn't matter.  Snowe has a seat in the Senate and Pelosi is Speaker of the House and will do what she knows can be accomplished in the House.  The only reason Snowe is given credibility is she has shown a willingness to work with Senate democrats to PASS HCR.  I applaud her for bucking her GOP colleagues and doing as she said--what is right for the country, the people, to fix a broken system.  I want a public option, too, but I believe in giving credit to Snowe for trying even if I disagree with her.
Because you feel you "Won', the other 47 percent of the population that didn't vote for your Party should just sit down and let you get away with anything?

ckaster - The Truth, Biloxi, MS (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:34
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Can you tell me when ‘majority rules’ was abolished?  

53>47

Apology accepted… I’ve been called worse around here... give me a hug ;0)
"I't actually raining here and it's not pee!

I guess you would know.

Thanks for warning us that you're "singing" off.

Singing off in the rain at that.  Gene Kelly must be turning over in his grave right now.

Who takes over the computer when you're gone.  I've noticed that sometimes you can spell.  It seems like you're an alternating person or something.

What is "I't"?

Anita is an enigma, that's for sure.
No one believes what Pelosi says anymore. No one.
Catfight!

(I'm a sexist, too.  Did I just commit a crime?)
Richard, Washington State

You did. But they just add the fine on to what you owe for health care reform. Really, it's nothing to worry about.
Snowe in control?! Nancy's not even in control!
Sadly, Rick, two of those people who produced nothing and are getting 250 dollar checks to heat their home for the winter actually produced you.  Hopefully, they are not proud.  However, this proud group produced everything you have today to crow about you elitist pig.
RAIN ....

There it is, the line of the day. The absolute queen of execution when it comes to unruly conversation said it and it's pretty damn funny.

From Anita:

"It's actually raining here and it's not pee."

Here's to ya, Huckleberry. You may not be right but that doesn't mean you can't be funny.



Full Moon
Tombstone Shadow
Polythene Pam ... and the rest.
Just watched Obama in NOLA.
What a treat to have someone with some brains in charge of things again.
(comments saying something like "Buzzy is a big poopy head" to follow in 3...2...1....)
Americans are paying more attention than they used to...and will vote anyone out who is not working on their behalf.
Ron Indiana (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:51 PM)
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I wish this were true, Ron.  Unfortunately, most Americans are not paying attention.  Both houses of Congress passed a stimulus last Fall in spite of the majority of Americans being against it.  What's more, they did it just before the election -- and what happened?  At least in the House, most of the elected officials who supported the stimulus went back to work in Washington...

People aren't paying attention, or if they are, they don't care.  Now that our elected officials know they will only be removed from office for scandal, negative exposure, or more serious problems; they now have NO FEAR when doing whatever they want at the national level.  Our votes were our biggest weapon against political corruption -- and most Americans have buried it in ignorance.
What is "I't"?

Anita is an enigma, that's for sure.
Richard, Washington State (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:05 PM

Cutting on someone for a simple typo?
Yer a real class act, there, Richard.
When it's all said and done, and we have health care reform, it will be tough for Republicans to go to their home districts and say they are working for the middle class. Americans are paying more attention than they used to...and will vote anyone out who is not working on their behalf.
Ron Indiana (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:51 PM)

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98% of Republicans are in safe districts. Republicans dont vote people out just because they dont go along with the other side.
Democrats that rode in on Obama's coattail are the ones that need to be worried.
I'm watching this helieum baloon float aimlessly over the eastern slopes of Colorado, and all I can think of is George w Bush for some reason.....
Talk about a control freak -- why would Pelosi, the House Speaker, have such an issue with the stage lights being turned over to Olympia Snowe?  She's not even in the same chamber, Lady!  Get a grip!  I know you've gotten a freighter-load of MSM crap dumped on you as just compensation for your performance, but getting uptight with someone who has absolutely no stake in your litter-filled sandbox -- you really need some time alone, Lassie - and pop a little ritalin to go with it.
Yes Nancy lets pander to the unions with those cadillac health plans most of us can only dream of...

Yeah, as a union member of a Fortune 100 company, I do have have a very nice health care plan. And for 2 people I only have to pay $312 a month, plus co-pays and prescriptions and it has a 1 million dollar limit per person. With a wife with Chrons disease that costs $5,732.64 every eight weeks for a Remicade treatment, not to mention any other medical necessities, I really thinbk it is more a Buick plan.
(I'm a sexist, too.  Did I just commit a crime?)

Richard, Washington State (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:34 PM)

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Come on now Richard... with an attitude like your's you'll NEVER find a redhead to call your own!

Hell you'd be lucky to find a woman... period!
KQED pays a Higher premium because their employees average 47 years of age
Organizations with lower average ages pay less
They pay a higher premium because they're a Non-Profit
For profits pay less
They pay a higher premium because they're a small company
Larger companies pay less
Manufacturing/Industrial companies pay Higher premiums
MSierra, SF (Sent Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:34 PM)
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Another not quite true post.

About the only thing you got right is that average age 47 group pays more than average age younger.

Non profits do not pay more than for profits (all other things being equal).  They don't get the tax benefits, but they don't pay anything more.

Larger companies don't always pay less per person, and often pay more.  They don't have the pooling protection from rate increases that small businesses do.  They do get smaller administrative fees (if they are self funded), but that's about it.  Midsize companies, between 50-200 lives, get it worst of all.

Manfacturing and industrial probably pay around average.  Service/office workers pay less; contractors pay the most.
I guess I'm guilty of having one of the so called caddie plans,I don;t have to pay with blood if I get sick,I do have to cover the first two grand,in the same year,and not a penny after that.It's a plan that our UNION has fought to get,it protects us from going bankrupt if we get sick.See if you had a union, you would be happier then a pig in poop,but since most of the clipped wingers live in the south,where the word union can get you shot,there is no union,just the big boss man, who controls when you can go to the can,and if you are sick, you are fired,and if you speak up, you get the shown the door.So you non=union workers who whine here about unions don't know a damn thing about them,this country was built be union labor,except in the south where it was built by slave labor.See we in the north are not slaves to the company,they don't own me or any other member.So keep the river of tears,and the BS about acorn,and soros,and Tell-a-promters,and unemployment(It's been falling like a rock here in UNION land,down to 8%)and on and on and on.Buy UNION i say!And thanks Obama for all the stim money,I see it at work everywhere I look.
@Rick, NC
Yes Nancy lets pander to the unions with those cadillac health plans most of us can only dream of...oh yeah and lets send soem more 250 checks to people who produce absolutley nothing in this country.

Um, Rick....The $250 is a one time payment instead of a cost of living increase for social security. Those "people who produce absolutely nothing" are seniors. Put another way, they are your parents and/or grandparents. They produced YOU. If you're still mad about the $250, fine. But please put your hate aside and show a little respect for your elders.
Everyone knows there can be no "healthcare reform" without a public option that anyone can use if they want. People in Congress would have to step on the toes of some very powerful people to get such legislation passed, and I don't think they have the integrity to do the "right thing", I sincerely hope I am mistaken but after the way Franks caved in to the lobbyists on the consumer protection agency dealyo and the Max Baucus cater made legislation for the insurance industry my confidence level is not real high at this point, they have to figure out that lining their pockets with lobbyist money does not constitute doing the "right thing", does anyone truly believe they are going to turn down a bribe? I don't.


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