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Court declines to hear 60s cold case

Posted: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:02 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Pete Williams
The U.S. Supreme Court today declined to take up the case of James Ford Seale, a central figure in an infamous racially motivated crime in 1964. Today's action leaves his conviction standing. But two justices said the court should have taken the case, because the issue will come up again in other cold cases from the 1960s.

The FBI accused Seale and other Ku Klux Klansmen of kidnapping two black college students in 1964, beating them in a forest, and dumping them, still alive, into the Mississippi River. Seale and another man were arrested at the time, but local authorities declined to prosecute them for killing the students, Charles Moore and his friend, Henry Dee. Moore's brother, Thomas, helped get the case re-opened, and Seale was re-arrested in 2007, this time on federal charges, and later convicted.

When the crime was committed in 1964, a kidnapping that resulted in harm to the victim was punishable by death. And that is true today. But for more than two decades, violating that law was not a capital offense. There's no statute of limitations for crimes that carry the death penalty, but there is for others.  Accordingly, Seale challenged his conviction, arguing that when the death penalty was taken off the books, only a five-year statute of limitations applied to the crime. Once that period elapsed, he could no longer be charged, even though the death penalty was later revived, he claimed.

A federal appeals court disagreed and upheld Seale's conviction, but it urged the Supreme Court to straighten out the law. Today, the justices declined to do so.  But two justices -- the liberal John Paul Stevens and the conservative Antonin Scalia -- said the court should have taken the case. It's an important issue, they said, "that may well determine the outcome of a number of cases of ugly racial violence remaining from the 1960's."

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Somehow, and you just know it, the liberals will blame this on George Bush.
But two justices -- the liberal John Paul Stevens and the conservative Antonin Scalia -- said the court should have taken the case. It's an important issue, they said, "that may well determine the outcome of a number of cases of ugly racial violence remaining from the 1960's."
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Where there mistaken is... 'ugly racial violence' is NOT only something associated with the 1960's... it continues well into the present!
Ooops sorry for the 'typo'

Where they're mistaken is... 'ugly racial violence' is NOT only something associated with the 1960's... it continues well into the present! Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:15 AM)
Somehow, and you just know it, the liberals will blame this on George Bush.
FTR (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:13 AM)

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Did you even read the blog?
In the 60's you couldn't convict Southern whites or Klansmen in these kind of cases

Law and order seemed to have been very selective
'southern Justice' seems to have been a contradiction in terms


Go Hoffman!: '...Read from Sat blog that folks don't blieve losses for Dems is referendum on Obama. I think it's not just on obama; it's on the Dems as a whole.  They print money like there's no tmoro;...'

George Bush had Republican majorities in the House and Senate for 6 years
He managed to DOUBLE THE NATIONAL DEBT
What, exactly did the American people gain ?
What happened to all THAT MONEY ??
Where there mistaken is... 'ugly racial violence' is NOT only something associated with the 1960's... it continues well into the present!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Really? Where? See, this is how the liberals perpetuate the myth. Things were bad before, and they are worse now, well, according to liberals. Keeps people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton in the green anyway.

We just elected a black president. And to liberals, that's just their twisted minds coming up with that being further proof of racism. Racism is now a club used by liberals. It's a weapon they pull out when they have no other argument left, no leg to stand on, so it it's pulled out really quick now in days. The country is tiring of that nonsense though.
There should be no statute of limitations for crimes motivated by the melanin count the victims skin regardless of whether it is high or low. We are one species and division due to coloration must be eliminated. Fighting along these lines keeps us divided and lets the Priveleged class control us. All types of class systems must be eliminated for the greater good.
Maybe if the new wave republicans knew about it's racist past they would take a longer look at who they support.There was a rash of killings in the south,mostly over the civil rights movement.See the southern farmers where against giving human beings civil rights.They where happy using slave labor to work there fields.And when they weren't working like dogs,the younger girls where used as there play toys,working on there backs.These where some ulgy times in our past,but i doubt it gets much talk in History classes across the south.Kind of like we see with the tea baggers,they are allot like the KKK followers of the 60's.Guns in one hand, Good book in the other.
Somehow, and you just know it, the liberals will blame this on George Bush.
FTR
what the hell does former president George bush have to do with this, i take offense to what you said, have you ever had to fear the KKK, i bet not, or you would have said something as stupid as you just did.
when the feds dug up Emitt Till, did you have something funny to say, these men were murdered trying to give a group of people the same right northers take for granted.
you mentioned Liberals, let me tell you, there was a liberal, his name was robert kennedy, he took on the Klan along with alot of other brave Liberals MLK, CLC, being a liberal is not all bad, no matter what some think.
remember the civil rights movement!!!!!! i bet you were against that!!
man, you just got me going on that, if the Klan would take you out and try kill you like they did many you would be crying and begging like a little bitch!!.
Keep moving. Justice served. Shame on anyone who defends those convicted. We're making progress but its not yet a perfect society. Only an arrogant person will try to tell someone what their experience is today unless they live in their shoes. Without doubt this is also definitely no longer the 60s, let's not drag the country back there and celebrate our progress and work on improvements where lacking.
Maybe if the new wave republicans knew about it's racist past they would take a longer look at who they support.There was a rash of killings in the south,mostly over the civil rights movement.See the southern farmers where against giving human beings civil rights.They where happy using slave labor to work there fields.And when they weren't working like dogs,the younger girls where used as there play toys,working on there backs.These where some ulgy times in our past,but i doubt it gets much talk in History classes across the south.Kind of like we see with the tea baggers,they are allot like the KKK followers of the 60's.Guns in one hand, Good book in the other.
Justice ,Mississippi

hey i think your wrong, the southern racist were not republican, they were democrats, they denounced the republican party because lincoln freed the slaves.
George Wallace was a democrate.
Calvin J., OK - wow are you serious? Was it the liberals that hung blacks and rape black women or was it hateful white people. None of that had anything to do with Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

These men choose to be whatever they called themselves – just like Klansmen closed to hang and kill black people.

No matter how you want to spin this - you can't get away from the truth or the facts.

Your ignorance and the things you said - just shows that if allowed today you would be the first person to hang another black and feel justified in your sick little mind -

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
We just elected a black president. And to liberals, that's just their twisted minds coming up with that being further proof of racism. Racism is now a club used by liberals. It's a weapon they pull out when they have no other argument left, no leg to stand on, so it it's pulled out really quick now in days. The country is tiring of that nonsense though.

Calvin J., OK
i can't believe in the year 2009, there are still people like calvin out there.
calvin, i wish we would go back in time, and you will find out how bad things were in the south, my familys on both sides had to get out of the south because of the racism. i wish it was 1955 and the Klan came to you door what would you do!!!!
Really? Where? See, this is how the liberals perpetuate the myth. We just elected a black president. And to liberals, that's just their twisted minds coming up with that being further proof of racism.

Calvin J., OK (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:27 AM)
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I see comprehension & history are not your strong suits… but I’ll give it the old ‘team’ try anyway…

If things are so hunky dory why was a ‘hate’ crimes bill recently passed?


Does the name James Byrd Jr. ring a bell? Perhaps Matthew Shepard?  If not… here’s something you can familiarize yourself with:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/22/hate.crimes/index.html

Or using your logic on having just elected a ‘black’ President… got another one for you to educate yourself on:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html
or maybe this one…

http://www.truthout.org/1023094

Maybe you can PROVE your point by providing us with a link or article citing where any PAST President has had his Secret Service streched this thin?  Rather than just sputtering the right wing squawking points...

Oh and Calvin… the NONSENSE this country is TRULY tiring of right wing whack jobs who REFUSE to take off their HATE  goggles!

Southern Racist have always been Democrats. If you think otherwise you're probably not from the south. It goes back to the plantation days and yes, that was in the south. Republicans have always felt a man or woman should not be judged by their skin color. It's the DNC that has fooled so many into thinking the opposite for political purposes. Go back, read your history and see the real story.

It continues to amaze me how gullible so many from my race are in supporting the democrats. They have made our race stay where they wanted us for their own personal gain, preaching justice and equality.

The truth and an honest evaluation will set you free.

Don't buy the hype. Obama is the token poster boy for the DNC and the Chicago political machine. That's why HE can't make a decision now. People are waiting to pull his strings. You don't get that feeling with a true leader. Don't get me wrong, he's got some good qualities but he's being controlled like NO other president has been before.
Will whoever keeps 'pinching a loaf' in Joe Scarboro's Wheaties please stop it?
It makes him more and more unbearable each and every morning.
Where there mistaken is... 'ugly racial violence' is NOT only something associated with the 1960's... it continues well into the present!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Really? Where? See, this is how the liberals perpetuate the myth. Things were bad before, and they are worse now, well, according to liberals. Keeps people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton in the green anyway.

We just elected a black president. And to liberals, that's just their twisted minds coming up with that being further proof of racism. Racism is now a club used by liberals. It's a weapon they pull out when they have no other argument left, no leg to stand on, so it it's pulled out really quick now in days. The country is tiring of that nonsense though.

Calvin J., OK (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:27 AM)
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Feisty Redhead is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.  Of course, without question, racial discrimination and violence which comes from it exists today.  The fact that we've elected an African-American president doesn't negate this fact in any way.  It only demnstrates that our society is VERY SLOWLY progressing.  Calvin, did you vote for President Obama?  I'm guessing that "Calvin from Oklahoma" (which is certainly not by any means a progressive state with the likes of the wingnut Inhofe representing the state) is not part of any dissaffected racial minority group, and therefore is unqualified to speak on this subject matter.


Racism is at it's highest level in many years thanks to the liberals. Even the president has let it slip out and if you listen to black radio stations you hear the racial jokes and cuts on a daily basis. Tune in sometime and hear what's going on. The division is greater than ever.

I heard one this morning on a black radio station a piece saying that Obama and family dressed up like "poor white folks" for Halloween. The laughter went on and on.

See the impact and the racial intensity?
Fiesty, they aren't "mistaken," the sentence is just being misread. It says, "...a number of cases ... remaining from the 1960s." I guess there's BARELY a bit of a misplaced modifier, but the idea of the sentence is that the cases are from the 60s, not the violence. Quit trying to conjure up some crap about the Supreme Court being unaware of racial tension beyond the 60s.

On another note, I'm sorry to see this case get a pass. I would think things like this would be what a Supreme Court would yearn to oversee. People should not be able to get away with that kind of hatred, and the public should not have to watch them get away with it.
Somehow, and you just know it, the liberals will blame this on George Bush.
FTR (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:13 AM)


Get used to it.  Bush deserves no slack for at least the next 20 years.  Whoever takes office in 2016 will STILL be trying to pull this once-great country out of the lower level of the outhouse.  He earned it, and he SHOULD continue to take the hits- for at LEAST as long as you righties think Carter needs to be held up as a bad example.
Jeff Evanston IL (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:35 AM)
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Welcome back Jeff... there was some a@@hole trolling around here Friday who was impersonating you!

We ALL saw right through the little jerk off! ;0)
Calvin j. OK
You are exactly correct in what you said.
The other posters must have misunderstood based on their rebuttals.
Feisty, how is Obama getting so few death threats? Bush would have loved to have had only 30 a day.

Blue line post are as credible as wikipedia and we know how that's going now don't we.

Does it make you feel triumphant to include a blue line?

You went over the edge last week and I think people know see you better for who you really are.

Maybe time to purchase some hair dye or a new name?
With or without the death penalty, a crime of two murders that was ignored during that era should not have a statute of limitations for prosecution.  The murder of two college students should never be ignored.

FTR.  Let's see now, two unfinished wars, N Korea and Iran working for nuclear weapons, a Great Recession, banks near total collapse, unemployment rising, doubling the national debt--all on the Bush watch.  There's a lot of blame for Bush and republicans to be found.  18% of the public blame Obama, the rest blame Bush.  What have the Republicans done for this country lately?  
What is really sad is that 40 years later we still find it necessary to discuss such things. It should be past, long past history but unfortunately it isn't.

Let us not blame liberals or conservatives for what happened in the South. While the Republican party was formed as an anti-slavery party most whites in the party had no problem with what was done to black people in the South. In the 60's it took a White Southern Male president to push for and eventually sign legislation that allows for equal housing, equal pay, voting rights and more for African-Americans.

Lincoln, although opposed to slavery, was no fan of black people. He tried to give the freed slaves to other countries and only a few of said former slaves left for other lands. The rest lived as sharecroppers or got the heck out of the South to work in whatever job they could find. Many in the North wouldn't hire them either of if they did it was for lower wages. Party affiliation really had little to do with how AA people were treated.

For the most part it seems that African-Americans are treated better today than 40 years ago. While we've come a long way toward total acceptance we still have a way to go. Unfortunately I doubt that I'll see that happen in my lifetime despite a president that is part AA. Of course some of the radical, extremists will seize on this to blame their opposites and make generalizations which is all the more reason to ignore them for they know nothing and make it obvious by their statements.
The true haters are the liberals of today. The same ones that will not acknowledge that progress has been made. They live in the past, and always will. When they watch a documentary from the 1950's, they think it's the evening news and is happening now. And that is where the liberals power comes from, from saying things have not changed and they need to "Do More". But the "more" is never enough, and then they need to do "Even More".

The country is sick of liberalism though. Most everyone else wants to turn the page, look to the future while acknolwledging the mistakes of the past. Not the liberals though. They continue to live in the past, because they love being the victim.
What have the Republicans done for this country lately?  
Jody, Iowa

Democrats - same question.
Will whoever keeps 'pinching a loaf' in Joe Scarboro's Wheaties please stop it?
It makes him more and more unbearable each and every morning.
Buzz

Then change the channel. There are others besides msnbc you know. Or does the home only let you watch that one?
The southern democrats or dixiecrats were opposed to civil rights.  JFK, RFK and Johnson, democrats all, pushed through the civil rights legislation.  The dixiecrats of the south left the party and joined the republicans where they happily live on repressing miniorities in the south with their conservative social/cultural ideals; it continues to work in the south because of deep religious convictions.  LBJ when signing the legislation said the democrats would loose the south for decades.  Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt are identified as repubicans but they would be aligned with the democratic party today because they were progressives.  If our founding fathers had been conservative by today's standard of conservatism, the British flag would still be flying.  
When both sides feel that the case should have been taken, it speaks volumes. By the way the only thing us LIBERALS blame on George Bush is letting the economy get sooo bad before anyone tried to do anything, and getting us into a war, with no exit plan. You can say it is Barack Obamas' war all you want, but guess what, he didn't send us there.
Don't buy the hype. Obama is the token poster boy for the DNC and the Chicago political machine. That's why HE can't make a decision now. People are waiting to pull his strings. You don't get that feeling with a true leader. Don't get me wrong, he's got some good qualities but he's being controlled like NO other president has been before.
Marcus D., Chicago (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:54 AM)

Marcus D.,
You D man, I ‘m glad you finally showed your ugly face,  now that you took you have taken your  hood. Believe me you face is ugly don’t you ever call me a racist again!!! A**hole. President Obama unlike you is not being controlled by puppeteers like you and your Republikkklans or anyone for that matter.


Only an arrogant person will try to tell someone what their experience is today unless they live in their shoes. Without doubt this is also definitely no longer the 60s, let's not drag the country back there and celebrate our progress and work on improvements where lacking.
J. Richter (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:36 AM)
Okay J
I hay one thing to say
You do the crime
You pay the time
Blue line post are as credible as wikipedia and we know how that's going now don't we.
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Ohhhh…that’s right…. Wickepedia is ONLY a credible source on the rare occasion the right wing whack jobs ATTEMPT to back up their BS with some kind of ‘source’!

Thanks for clearing that up!   lol lol lol
Jeff Evanston IL (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:35 AM)
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Welcome back Jeff... there was some a@@hole trolling around here Friday who was impersonating you!

We ALL saw right through the little jerk off! ;0)
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Hey Feisty, that was me on friday, i resonded to a post,
How many illegal jobs has the stimulas saved, i said for the illegals to go back where they came from.
being a liberal at times does not put money in my pocket, i said that the illegals are lowering our wages, draining our health care system and school systems (that the truth) look at the cook county budget and city of chicago. cook county has the highest taxes in the country.
then some one suggested i was converting to the republican party and i had a laugh.
its was more putting some laughter on a dule friday.
yes my mother is deceased, and if i did convert yes she would strike me down LOL , but my great grand father would be pleased because our family were republican from slavery till truman. remember lincoln was a republican who freed the slaves.
please don't get mad at me, i'm still a liberal but when it comes to illegals i'm still mad at the mexican president telling us that we need illegals to do jobs that blacks will not do.

So i guess i was a a@@ hole for a day!!!
remember i said illegals!!!!!!
I see no good coming from digging up 40 year old cases,verification of facts will be impossible and racists acusations from both sides of the issue will turn any legal action into a meaningless farce, the past can't be changed we need to move forward and do what is best for all Americas citizens now.
Justice Scalia's reference to the "ugly racial violence of the 1960's" is rearing its ugly head again.  Many of the new ultra-conservatives taking over the RepubliKaln Party are once again snorting the cocaine of the Theology of Segregationism that directly led to much of the 1960's racial violence. Just read "Politics and Religion in the White South", published in 2005.  Many of the tenets of the Neo-Conservative Movement, fostered by Beck and Limbaugh, are clearly based on the theology of the fundamentalist christian movement, which is built solidly on the teachings of Segregationist Theology.  That's why the violent rhetoric and complete demonization of political opponents - it's the neo-conservative, fundamentalist christian way.    
Well really since you have these Palin's Limbaugh, Beck's and some more who dn't not just support our President but hate him and sprew evi codes into society all crime's against white or blacks or anyother hate crimes should get consideration yet the racial ones seem to be the front runner's now we will never totally close the book's but beingmindful might save lives oneday.
Well really since you have these Palin's Limbaugh, Beck's and some more who dn't not just support our President but hate him and sprew evi codes into society all crime's against white or blacks or anyother hate crimes should get consideration yet the racial ones seem to be the front runner's now we will never totally close the book's but beingmindful might save lives oneday.
Where there mistaken is... 'ugly racial violence' is NOT only something associated with the 1960's... it continues well into the present!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:15 AM)
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Yes, clearly evident when the New Black Panthers threatened people and brandished weapons at polling places during the recent elections. But Holder and Obama did not think it was a problem.
its was more putting some laughter on a dule friday.
yes my mother is deceased, and if i did convert yes she would strike me down LOL , but my great grand father would be pleased because our family were republican from slavery till truman. remember lincoln was a republican who freed the slaves.
please don't get mad at me, i'm still a liberal but when it comes to illegals i'm still mad at the mexican president telling us that we need illegals to do jobs that blacks will not do.

So i guess i was a a@@ hole for a day!!!
remember i said illegals!!!!!! Jeff Evanston (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 12:38 PM)

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That someone was me... I tried to respond but I don't think it got through.

I had saw you said illegals, my point was that the immigration system was broke, and does not allow for the amount of inflow we have right now.  Besides, companies aren't being held responsible for these workers.  If there isn't a demand for illegals, they won't come.  And that demand is not just in our social services.  

I agree that what the mexican president said is absolutely idiotic, and he doesn't understand the struggles in this country.

And Yes Lincoln was a great Republican, that started the process of freedom in this country, but it was the work of democrats Kennedy and Johnson that actually made his words count.  
eagle1776 (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 12:09 PM)
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eagle,

I may disagree with you on alot of things, but I completely agree with your assessment of the 60s racial tensions.  Having lived all over this country, I've learned that EVERY racial group in America (usually smaller groups within each race) has people who try to preserve racial divisions and attitudes of dominance.  It happens everywhere, not just the south.  Until individuals decide to leave the past perspectives in the past and learn from the ignorance of it -- these aspects of the past will remain alive and well.
please don't get mad at me, i'm still a liberal but when it comes to illegals i'm still mad at the mexican president telling us that we need illegals to do jobs that blacks will not do

Jeff Evanston (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 12:38 PM)
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Whoops!  I stand corrected... the thing that threw me was when you said you were converting... lol lol lol...

And I could NEVER be 'mad' at ya!  Just cause we're libbies doesn't mean we march lock step!

Keep up the great work! :0)
I love the blame bush apologists on here...for 8 years they blamed everything bad that happened on bush's watch on Clinton and now they want to blame Obama...gee I guess bush and the republicans were just great and blameless during their 8 years of out of control spending and flag waving...
Don't buy the hype. Obama is the token poster boy for the DNC and the Chicago political machine. That's why HE can't make a decision now. People are waiting to pull his strings. You don't get that feeling with a true leader. Don't get me wrong, he's got some good qualities but he's being controlled like NO other president has been before.
Marcus D., Chicago (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 11:54 AM)

You mean George W. Bush; you see, he was selected by the far right wing nuts of the Republican Party in 2000; him being as stupid as he is, and with the name recognition, was a perfect choke for the nut jobs in 2000!!

Being a nut case himself, made it all the better for the repubs!!

You didn't figure out long ago Cheney and his ilk begged Georgie to run because he had the perfect resume?? Stupid, wing nut, name recognition!! And little Georgie went along with it all, of course, because his IQ hovers around 90!!  His Daddy should have pulled him aside and said, "Son, I allowed you to destroy a baseball team that was given to you; I allowed you to destroy every business you owned, but I'll have to draw the line at getting you into the White House!!"
This is no difference than when they find a black  person who committed a crime of old but the murder statue is always open on the a old black crime a man from Martinville Va got locked up about 2 years ago I thin for missing a court date maybe 30 years earlier and we do have America's most wanted who seem never to give up or just put the shoe on another races foot and see what you will get so kep it real .
I love the blame bush apologists on here...for 8 years they blamed everything bad that happened on bush's watch on Clinton and now they want to blame Obama...gee I guess bush and the republicans were just great and blameless during their 8 years of out of control spending and flag waving...
Georgie shrubster (Sent Monday, November 02, 2009 1:15 PM)

You're so right; the right refused to get rid of those eight track players and buy an I-Pod!! Everything was Bill Clinton's fault, unless they could throw Jimmy Carter in their every now and then!!

Polly wanna talking point?  It's all Bill Clinton's fault!!

The repubs are still blaming Bill Clinton for everything - it won't ever stop with these nut jobs!!

Don't you know, it was Bill Clinton that convinced Adam to take the apple from Eve, after all - LOL!!
Riggins Walton, MD- Racism is at it's highest level in many years thanks to the liberals. Even the president has let it slip out and if you listen to black radio stations you hear the racial jokes and cuts on a daily basis. Tune in sometime and hear what's going on. The division is greater than ever.
I heard one this morning on a black radio station a piece saying that Obama and family dressed up like "poor white folks" for Halloween. The laughter went on and on. See the impact and the racial intensity? /////////// Are you kidding me? You turned on one station. You heard one joke! Do you listen to Rush's vitriol everyday that is paid for with MY advertising dollars? Do you read the names that people call OUR President even on this site? And what pray tell did President Obama let "slip out"?  But, it's the liberals fault, ok.... You call the racial divide greater than ever, yup it might be. Those with closet feelings got torn out of the closet when we elected President Obama. They never thought in their life time a man of color would be President! Why do you think there is all this tea bag silliness! These things went on for 8 years of Bush, not a peep. But NOW their upset! Please. The reason for so much racial discourse is now people are called on it! You guys don't like that, nope, not in the least.
Double Standard Dems -Yes, clearly evident when the New Black Panthers threatened people and brandished weapons at polling places during the recent elections. But Holder and Obama did not think it was a problem.******************
If you watched the tape, the didn't threaten anyone. Secondly they were arrested or asked to leave within minutes. Guess though that is worse than the first Presidency Bush was GIVEN when my retired school teacher mother was told in Florida she was a convicted felon and couldn't vote, then told she was at the wrong voting site all before they found out she was a volunteer! You had people of color running all over Florida attempting to vote! They attempted it this past election, but Democrats were ready for it this time. Much to the dismay of the Republicans!
The Hate Crime Bill was attached to a military bill.  That is the way that the CommieCrats do things.  Talk about Hate Crimes........how bout the killings in Chicago.  Did whites kill the black student, huh?  How bout the gang rape in CA, was the girl white?  When was the last white on black killing in the south?  How bout everyday that black young men carjack and invade homes of whites.  We have had two events in NC recently where black thugs invaded a home and the homeowner fought back and wounded or killed the home invader.  One homeowner was black and the other was white.  Best defense against home invasion is a loaded pump action 12 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs.


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