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Arianna vs. Plouffe

Posted: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:06 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mark Murray
Earlier today, Arianna Huffington had quite the conversation starter: that after reading Obama campaign manager David Plouffe's new book, "The Audacity to Win," she believes the first year of Obama's presidency can be summed up with this title instead -- "The Timidity to Govern."

She wrote:


Indeed, reading the book, I often found myself wondering what Candidate Obama would think of President Obama. Would he look at what the White House is doing and say, "that's what I and my supporters worked so hard for?"

How did the candidate who got into the race because he'd decided that "the core leadership had turned rotten" and that "the people were getting hosed" become the president who has decided that the American people can only have as much change as Olympia Snowe will allow?

How did the candidate who told a stadium of supporters in Denver that "the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result" become the president who has surrounded himself with the same old players trying the same old politics, expecting a different result?


Well, Plouffe has now responded with his own Huffington Post piece.


Arianna Huffington has written much that I agree with. But when it comes to her opinion on the president and his record so far, or her suggestion that there is some great difference between the president and the candidate, I have to register the strongest possible dissent. A year after our historic victory, I have never been more certain that Barack Obama is uniquely suited to lead the country at this unparalleled moment. His values; his ability and desire to think long term; his determination to avoid the easy road of political expedience and to rebuild trust between the American people and their government--these are exactly what American needs right now. As on any journey, there will be twists and turns, ups and downs. But the change so many of us fought for so passionately last year is becoming a reality in front of our eyes, if we focus squarely enough to see it. And when the decisions he is making today finally resolve into a complete picture years down the road, we will find ourselves living in a stronger, fairer, and more prosperous America. And we will cherish the small part all of us played in electing this unique leader, a man befitting this critical moment in our history.

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You can't have it both ways. And you cannot sit back and say it's not my problem any longer. The era of pointing fingers at everyone else and saying THEY DID THIS TO ME is over on this one. This is an in your face situation that is not going to go away and every American needs to persuade there elected official to get off their butt and find an answer (and suggest solutions). Not just run each others name and party affiliation down.

Have we really become that stupid in America?

Dave, IL

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Interesting. You just took away the entire Liberal line of their claim of being victims.

And why exactly do you believe that our "elected officials" can solve all these great problems of the day?  Doesn't look like they can solve even one problem let alone an entire set of them. Guess what, the elected officials don't have the answers. Why you think they do is a mystery. The most I'd trust them with is the naming of a Post Office in Omaha. For anything more, they should just sit down and be quiet.
So America, are you better off then you were a year ago?
eagle1776 (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:36 PM)

As I said yesterday, and have long believed, the Republican Party, and specifically Cheney, selected Dumbya as their candidate in 2000 because he is stupid and had name recognition!!

Dumbya went along with anything the real president wanted, that is Cheney!!

Dumbya was carefully selected by a group of some of the most evil, neo-conservative people this country has ever seen; at the helm was Dick Cheney!! I'm wondering if, or when, he'll figure out he was duped!!

I'm making ZERO excuses for George W. Bush; I do, however, believe those who encouraged him to run for president (and governor, too), did so with the specific knowledge he was not qualified to be president, and with the specific intent of installing a complete moron in the WH who would carry out every evil and illegal thing they wanted!!

Cheney never got over Nixon; he was furious the fall of Nixon proved the Executive Branch equal to the Legislative and Judicial Branches!! Cheney always believed the Executive Branch was superior and should have far greater powers, although our Constitution tells us otherwise!! Cheney's great pay back, or middle finger to America, was getting Dumbya to run, being put in charge of selecting his VP only to select himself, then get his revenge for what he believed was a travesty, the forced resignation of Richard Nixon!!



Sorry, Plouffe, Arianna Huffington is correct!! And if President Obama doesn't begin listening to his base, those who got him the nomination in the first place, he's in for big trouble!! And this trouble won't come from republicans; it will come from his base, democrats like me!!
Can I squeeze this post smack dab in the middle of a headline grabbing silly story that has surfaced today on Huffington Post?
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The Nine Smartest Plays In World Series History. Tonight on Countdown.

Even though it’s an off day, we will still be getting World Series stories this evening.

Over @ Keith’s baseball blog:

“Inspired by Johnny Damon's double-stolen base in Game Four on Sunday, I thought it was time to salute a part of the game rarely acknowledged and even more rarely listed among its greatest appeals to the fan. What they once quaintly called "good brain-work": the nine Smartest Plays in World Series History.

We'll be doing this on television tonight, illustrated in large part with the kind help of the folks behind one of the most remarkable contributions ever made to baseball history, The Major League Baseball World Series Film Collection, which comes out officially next week, and which, as the name suggests, is a DVD set of all of the official "films" of the Series since ex-player Lew Fonseca started them as a service to those in the military in 1943. The amount of baseball history and the quality of the presentation (the "box" is by itself, actually a gorgeous Series history book) are equally staggering.”
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I am so enjoying the 2009 World Series. Yankees/Philadelphia. A great match-up.
I’m not quite in agreement that Damon’s base running Sunday night is way up there in World Series history, but I understand NYY fans feeling that it should be. I need to be convinced a little more that it’s warranted. But then I never thought Kirk Gibson deserved all the attention he has gotten over the years for his homerun. It was the first game of the Series.

My personal favorite moments in World Series history –Don Larsen perfect game and Mazeroski and Carter's home runs.

And Joe Carter’s home run is underrated. If that had been Jeter or Mantle or DiMaggio or Ted Williams or  any number of other players who hit that home run, it would have been in the top 3 of all time. It just ain’t fair.

The debates continue and will until the end of time. I wouldn't want it any other way. Can’t wait to see Keith’s program tonite.

Go Pedro!
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"You can have your Cobbs, your Lajoies, your Chases, your Bakers, but I'll take Honus Wagner as my pick of the greatest. He is not only a marvelous mechanical player, but he has the quickest baseball brain I have ever observed."  John McGraw
I tend to agree with David P. It is clearly much harder to govern than to campaign, or to oppose. Each decision pi***s off one group or another, but that is what the President signed up for, to GOVERN our country.

The 24 news cycle and the extremists on both sides clearly make that job a difficult one. One wonders why to media is so fixated on the negatives that spout from Limbaugh and Palin?

Change is happening although the pace is too slow for some. I say patience folks, Rome was not built in a day, nor will America be rebuilt in a year.

Now this comment for the reading impaired. GET A LIFE and SOME IDEAS OF YOUR OWN. Your illiterate drivel is a distraction for this blog.

Nuf said!~
Arianna sees the same thing conservatives do, just from a different angle. Obama has no experience at running anything, not even a hot dog stand, and it shows. All those promises Obama made? Nothing. Not a thing. The standard liberal line of 'Oh, Obama inherited such a mess!' is getting thread bare. People aren't interested in their leaders making excuses, they are interested in results. Bush isn't President anymore. Obama is. Maybe it's time he started to act like it.

Liberals are just so delusional. You really believe that about Carter? It is noted that you don't mention Carter on the domestic front. His economic policies ruined the country. Taxes, price controls, inflation, unemployment. You name it, Carter had it. Carter was the worst President of all time, at least until Carter II, who is also named Obama.
Granger, MI (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:56 PM)

You have got to be kidding!! Let's talk about your Party's, Saint Ronald Reagan"!! Well, I'll let this article, which is spot on, do the talking for me!!

"Ideologically, he was a hater and an imperialist and far-right loony-tune. He hated the poor. He hated gays. He hated leftists. He hated communists - and he was pretty sure you were one if you disagreed with him. He hated and he hated and he hated. Just ask his own kids. He hated them and himself and his ex-wife. Ronald Reagan was a twisted unrepentant closed-minded shit-bag hate monger. And that's just for starters.

The foreign policy of Ronald Reagan did more to impoverish and kill the poor and helpless humans of the world than any world leader before or since - with the possible exception of George Chimpking. Reagan just didn't give a s*it. He was going to defeat communism (which was already falling of it's own weight) and he didn't care how many children were burned alive or how many people starved to death on the way. Let em die.

On Reagan's watch the military budget of the U.S. grew to the proportions of a heaping pile of 10,000 week-old dead and bloated Blue Whales. And it stunk just as bad. The practice of rewarding incompetent cronies with gigantic useless contracts for unneeded military hardware was elevated to art form under Reagan. Reagan's legendary megalomania, hubris and abject ignorance led him to believe the tales of any crackpot who managed to slither past the goons who comprised his inner circle. Star-wars missiles, atomic shields, space-age death rays. You name it - that dumb piece of shit would fall for it - and blow billions of your tax dollars on it.

And on the domestic front - holy s*it the domestic front. Ronald Reagan was a force for the rampaging evil of anti-human destructiveness. He never met a social program he didn't scorn. He never met an American in need he didn't s*it directly upon. His response to the AIDS epidemic is one of the most sickening cold-blooded expressions of pure murderous political evil in the history of the earth. Genghis Khan could only dream of such depravity and indifference to human suffering. There is so much more, but, heck, if you don't already know about this s*it, then go read a book or two.

Then there was Iran-Contra - the infamous orgy of unfettered criminality at the heart of the Reagan legacy. Again, look it up. Rogues, liars, crooks, murderers and ignorant heartless scum surrounded Reagan at all times. Alli Babba would've been shamed. But Ronald Reagan was shameless.

Oh, did I mention The War on Drugs and it's ballooning of the prison/criminal industrial complex and the rise of brainless goon-like authoritarianism? Or the destruction of the modern labor movement including the cowardly firing of the Air Traffic Controllers? Or the beginnings of the current trend of packing the Judiciary with corrupt freakish pseudo-fascist stoolies? Or the repugnant rapes of Lebanon and Grenada? Or the dim-witted goofball junk science that came to known as "Reaganomics?" Or grant rigging at the Department of Housing and Urban Development? Or James Watt and the whole-hearted attempt to destroy the earth and all it's inhabitants at the expense of greed mongers and corporate whores? Or the largest white collar theft in the history of planet Earth - the Savings and Loan Bailout? And on and on and on and on."

SAVE YOUR BS!! I'll take Carter any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!


Feisty:

How are they justifying the increases when you meet with them? Administrative cost increases? Claims experience? Provider cost increases?

Serious question.
Richard, Washington State (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:27 PM)
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Since you asked so nicely Richard:

BCBS bases the increase on 3 factors:

Age demographics – although I have relatively young healthy employees there are a couple that are older and have some health issues – which pulls the curve down.

BCBS averages the provider cost increases based on location/inflation which is currently between 13 – 17%

Medical Usage = amount of claims filed. While I stated earlier about healthy employees – the ones that are not are considered major medical conditions.

Hope that answered your question(s)!
Baracks next book, an auto-biography: "The Audacity of the Dope With Hope"
Too bad Barry the Dims just can't govern. Bush was able to shove stuff down our throats with much much smaller majorities in congress. These Dims can't pass anything but token legislation to pay off their weirdo leftist supporters.

Nothing real that makes my life better has happened yet and I'm sick of the payoffs to the old, poor and jsut plain lazy and stupid in our population. Where the heck is my bailout?
Pat, Boston, MA (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:19 PM)

Pat -

Thanks for bringing this to the blog today!! It put a big smile on my face; we often need a break from the fighting, which seems to get us nowhere anyway!!

Good job friend!!
"The Timidity to Govern."
EXACTLY !!

\Thank you Arianna
Obama has proved himself to be a SISSY

Time to MAN UP Obama !!
Start LEADING !!
START GOVERNING !!

Forget BIPARTISAN !!!
Thank you David Plouffe:

You are able to articulate a truth that many folks do not see.

President Obama has a lot of courage and patience.

He has been battling the Rebublicans, 2 wars, the economy and HCR with style and grace and with calmness and intelligence.

I am shocked that Arianna Huffington whom I respect so much has so little vision and understanding in this manner.

President Obama is an amazing president. He works hard and is doing his best to do the right thing.

Sorry, Plouffe, Arianna Huffington is correct!! And if President Obama doesn't begin listening to his base, those who got him the nomination in the first place, he's in for big trouble!! And this trouble won't come from republicans; it will come from his base, democrats like me!!
So America, are you better off then you were a year ago?

America Is Ill With a Bad Case of Liberalism (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:16 PM)

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Maybe not, but we sure as hell are not WORSE off.
Look, as bad as things were screwed up by the last administration, it will take more than the next TWO presidential terms to straighten it all out.  I don't think that if Obama were Jesus Christ himself, he could pull it off, to be honest with you.
I can hear it now- "another libtard 'bashing' Bush....".
No- another 'libtard' stating a plain, simple fact.
Baracks next book, an auto-biography: "The Audacity of the Dope With Hope"

CJ Summers, Lincoln NE (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:23 PM)
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Awww!!! Isn't that 'special'!  Can someone tell me who tossed the 'dopes of hope' line out to the mental midgets?  Lush?  Insanity? Who?

Cause we ALL KNOW there's no way they're SMART enough to come up with that on their own! lol lol lol

They just keep tossing bird feed to the parrots!  lol lol

".......SAVE YOUR BS!! I'll take Carter any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!

Pam, San Pedro, California (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:22 PM)
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Damn, and I thought Olberman's 'special comments' were good.
Spot on, Pam.  Too bad you don't have a column in the dailies like Cal Thomas, Charles Krauthamer, and many, many others.
Howdy Pam! Let the fighting go on. I'm in baseball mode right now. And very busy @ work. My boss has a big speech next week and I'm doing a ton of research for him.

Carry on. lol!!
SAVE YOUR BS!! I'll take Carter any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!

Pam, San Pedro, California


Using the same methods the Obama administration uses to count jobs creaed/saved, Reagan created 300 million jobs and saved 270 million jobs. Quite the feat.
Maybe not, but we sure as hell are not WORSE off.

Buzz

Tell that to the 3 million people that have lost their jobs since Barry raised his right hand and swore on the bible. Lots of people swearing at Obama right now, and for very good reasons.
It does not make sense to me - that people like Huffington can really write such a ridiculous piece.

I use to respect her and her opinion - but this is so off base.  What in the hell would you expect from a man who's been President for less than a year.

After 8 years of total destruction to get us here in the first place, unbelievable the ignorance of some people.

I got a question for you Ms. Huffington - tell U.S. is there another way around getting Republicans to do what we elected a Democratic President to do?

If so - you should run for President the next time and bring us your magic hat.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Someone needs to tell Plouffe people aren't buying the uplifting Yes We Can, speech-like rhetoric anymore.  Fool us once........ Going to agree with Arianna on this.  
Arianna Huffington, welcome to the Obama administrations Enemies List! You'll be thrown under the bus with Joe Lieberman, Mary Landrieu, and  President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan. Welcome, and try not to get any oil stains on that dress of yours.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:22 PM): "BCBS averages the provider cost increases based on location/inflation which is currently between 13 – 17%"

Good info, nice of you to respond to Richard's query.  Now, is there any lefty around here who can riddle me this: when BCBS reports provider cost increases of 13-17%, why is it a surprise that they will raise their premiums?  And why will the left blame evil insurance companies for this unsustainable increase in costs instead of the providers who are at the root of the problem?

A few months ago I did a post using numbers from Aetna's nmost recent quarterly report at the time where they reported their provider costs increased 18% year over year.  So I ask again, why does the left incessantly focus on the supposed evils of the hugely profitable (not) health insurance industry when
in fact the biggest cost driver by far of insurance premiums is the constantly increasing costs that health care providers bill to the insurance companies?

And as a bonus question, can any lefty please explain how a public option will control the unsustainable rise in the costs of the health care providers.  Oh, and any answer that just involves cost shifting doesn't pass the smell test.
Why won't Obama use the superpowers that were given to him on election day....when is he going to wave that wand and get everything done NOW.
So America, are you better off then you were a year ago?

America Is Ill With a Bad Case of Liberalism (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:16 PM)

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Hell yeah I'm better off than a year ago.  A year ago Cheney and his little sidekick GWB was still in the drivers seat, driving this bus into the ditch over and over and over again, so just the fact that those two are out makes me about 1000000 times better off.
Where the heck is my bailout? (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:27 PM)
“Bush was able to shove stuff down our throats with much much smaller majorities in congress.”
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Republicans mostly march lock-step with their leadership – not allowed to think for themselves or do what their constituents want. If they break from party lines this is what they face:

Bob MacGuffie has declared that Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) are RINOs who “have routinely abandoned or betrayed us.” Similarly, the next step of Dick Armey’s agenda appears to be an intensified crusade to challenge moderate Republicans in primaries. The Politico reports that Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC), Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL), former Rep. Rob Simmons (R-CT) and other Republicans who have strayed from rigid party-line positions face primaries from candidates inspired by the tea parties and town hall disruption type tactics.
this country is much better off than it was a year ago.  American's have no patience at all.  They want everything now.  We have a wonderful president who is working harder than any other president we have had in modern times.  We should appreciate him and stop complaining - you all sound like a bunch of whiny babies.
Well MIss he really hoped and thought that these Congress folk's could at least get past race and help him pass Bill's especially his own party,example I read what the lady senator rom Louisiana said about supporting a bill Snowe said a trigger is that her best excuse if we could not trust Grassley or say a Liberman with these stalling tactics who do she and other;s think they are fooling knowing that the most poorest without insurance probably are in their states and are Demorcratic voter's see one thing I know for sure about President Bush his party waas mainly white but they also voted party lines and they had only themslves in mind but President Obama has all in mind we need a national team to vote agaisnt our Demorcratic leaders who still use this race and just plain simple minded attitude on why they think they don't want President Obama to suceed oh I get it some of them have black politicians who might aspire to do more than watch, so it's job security same old 50 stuff kep them back don't get me wrong they are looking at some whites to like the Hillbilly thought of nobody will run against me.Think about it did dou really see any or more than a few standing up to those nut cases this summer nope act like they did not see them like it is what it is but never in a many lies should a Demorcrat be lining up with a Republican on something that is not concrete on a bill which could not only help the lesser but those who have plans also see people like her never lived on mainstreet where at times neighbor's had to help each other nope her and other act like the owned plantation and now that one of the worker;s have come back to help out the town they have to do or say anything to stop them lady keep your vote as a matter of fact al of you keep it this not a bidding on who dies or who lives these are votes that fit a majority of Americans now stop lying or just step down and since she said it what did she really do to help Katrina folk's probaly help sell their land and move them out so the cream can have ot to themselves so don't nobody get fooled this is deeper that you think for everybody likes a sale no matter what kind and a Public option is a good one /now we can take the mandate out or like use the subsidy route anyhow it's not far off just when close to your rep ask them the real race question for money is not the problem every President is goig to have to spend some money if the one before him did not leave any /
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/nov/03/cherry-picking/
By David Burress - Lawrence

November 3, 2009

To the editor:

Neither side got the economics of health insurance profits quite right (Public Forum, Oct. 28 and 30). Yes, profits are only 2-4 percent of cost. Yes, executive salaries are bloated, but they’re only a tiny share of costs. And yet, the profit system really is the problem. Here’s why.

What truly makes private insurance wasteful is administrative overhead, not profits. An army of private bureaucrats burns 15 percent to 40 percent of your money as it passes through insurance companies on its way to doctors and hospitals. (Government-provided Medicare spends only 3-5 percent).

So what exactly are those bureaucrats doing? Basically, rejecting your claims and preventing sick people from being covered. That means underwriting, denials of coverage, pre-existing conditions, rescissions, “experimental procedures,” exclusions, annual and lifetime maximums, copays, arcane policy terms, murky claim rejections, and all the rest.

The very same things that brought Obama to the White House will get him thru the next term and that is steadfastly planning and thinking through the intricate problems that plague our country. There are no quick fixes, there are no magic bullets, there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

No Drama Obama. He's the same person on the campaign trail as he is as Commander in Chief. Just because the Repubs make a lot of noise but never say anything should not be held against Pres Obama. Thankfully, his style is different. I would much prefer to have a leader who is confident in his abilities and is unafraid to take his time in making decisions that will affect so many people.

Ms. Huffington has it all wrong. This President is uniquely qualified to govern, to lead and to succeed.
Plouffe is right.  As a democrat, what troubles me is that we want and expect Pres Obama to get things done yet the criticism flies constantly.  No wonder democrats no longer stay in power long, we're too busy banging our heads against the wall because it doesn't quite suit us.  I like Ariana Huffington and agree with her on many things but she is as wrong as the others to think ANY president could move at warp speed to correct the mess we have.  Obama has a different style, it is what voters liked.  I read posts here all the time talking about the republicans destroying each other.  Looks like it is a bi-partisan tendency.  This tendency will hurt democrats in 2010 more than anything else.  The last thing democrats and Obama need is to start fighting among themselves.  Isn't it hard enough to fight off FOX, Limbaugh and the Party of NO.  Pres Obama offered change, we voters agreed; change is not democrats turning on one another because it isn't happening fast enough.  Substitute the name Boehner or Cheney for Ariana Huffington, the left would pounce.  No wonder voters get discouraged, when we elect someone we aren't willing to give that person a full term before we start whining.  Repeat, transforming this country requires more than 10 months.
Come on Plouffe, stop campaigning. I have already bought the car, now I want to see if it can get off the light.
I can't believe the disrespect in some of these blogs. The hate you people have in you will destroy you sooner or later.  Do you realize that there will be fallout from the actions of the previous administration that have not even surfaced yet and you think Obama should have everything fixed in less than a year?  Get real. If you think you have it so bad, go live in another country, we won't miss you.
It amazes me that people are bashing Obama for not accomplishing his goals.  He can only ASK Congress to enact new laws.  He cannot pass them.  His only power to affect change in Congress is his veto power.  He can use this power to negotiate with Congress.  For example, he could tell the republicans that he will veto some legislation THEY want unless they pass the legislation HE wants.

Unfortunately, we lost our 60-member filibuster-proof majority in the Senate when Senator Kennedy died.  So now we are mired in the healthcare debate because the Republicans will filibuster any attempt to pass any bill which will take money from the rich and greedy.  Don't underestimate the influence of the wealthiest people in America.  Americans are like cattle.  We get scared by the advertisements produced by those rich folks and we are stampeding over a cliff.  The rich are happy to lead us to our demise as long as it gives them more short-term wealth.

Open your eyes.  Do your own research.  Stop blindly following one side or the other.  Follow the money.  Then you will find the real truth of the matter.
It would be nice if you told us exactly what he has accomplished, other than allowing the repubs to run all over him!!

HCR:   He's sitting on the sidelines!!

Gitmo: On hold

DODT:  On Hold

DOMA:  On Hold

Bringing troops home from Iraq:  On hold

Afghanistan:  Who the Hell knows!! Oh, he did sign a bill agreeing to pay the Taliban to switch sides!! That's not what he campaigned on!!

Require health insurance coverage for all children:

"In the Works"

Create tough new financial regulations:  "In the Works"

Let's just start with these, okay?  People are not whining; people are mad!! Big difference!!


Let's start there, okay?  People are not whining; people are mad!! Big difference!!
All I've seen in this historic change that was promised is turning into middle-of-the-road crap in deference to appeasing those stinking repukes. He and the democratic congress had better get with it and start pushing these changes or I'm outta here with them - and I'll never support another weak-ass dem for the rest of my life if they blow this one big chance of theirs.
Jody, Iowa (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:09 PM)

Jody, some of the promises President Obama made should have been carried out by now, i.e. repealing DODT; he's sat on the sidelines on HCR, and allowed the rethgus to bully him; he refuses to make the right decision in Afghanistan, we cannot win and he's stalling at the expense of more Americans dying; he hasn't began bringing troops home from Iraq, and I don't buy that "Bush agreed to blah, blah, blah" - I don't care what Bush agreed to, he's gone; he's waffled on closing Gitmo, which he promised would be closed in one year; he hired paid lobbyists to work in his administration!! And the list goes on and on!! For someone who promised to bring about change, and change the way Washington works, he's failed!! He truly is looking like a corporate president; that's not what millions voted for!!

Arianna Huffington is right, and those who disagree with her are having a hard time because they really like Obama!! But his is NO reason to defend him when he is wrong, or not hold him to account on promises he made, and many of which, should have been carried out by now!!
And as a bonus question, can any lefty please explain how a public option will control the unsustainable rise in the costs of the health care providers.  Oh, and any answer that just involves cost shifting doesn't pass the smell test.
Bill, Fairfax, VA


Bill,  This has bean my point throughout this HRC debate.  The pro HRC will tell you that a "robust" (WTF does that mean) will pay providors Medicare + 5% and this will cut costs.  The reality is that providors will either refuse to accept PO policies or inflate their compensation through multiple services.  I have consistantly maintained that the only real way to bend the cost curve is to ration treatment (yes I'm for death panels).  Anybody who thinks the country can afford to treat every 76 year old the way Teddy Kennedy was treated is fiscally insane.
So America, are you better off then you were a year ago?

America Is Ill With a Bad Case of Liberalism (Sent Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:16 PM)

yes, america is better off today than a year ago.  remember, a year ago congress was having secret meetings regarding a depression and food lines for a huge percentage of the population.  so please, don't forget history or you will be doomed to repeat it.  it will take more than 1 year to turn this mess around.  and we will not let people rewrite history telling us about the gold old days under bush/cheney there chief.
It's at a moment like this that I have to point and laugh at the punditocracy!

A year ago, President Obama's supporters were dismissed by critics as being delusional for believing that he had superpowers.

Now it's those same critics who seem to be the ones who expected all the problems to just disappear...as if he DID have superpowers.

So, which is it?
In this age of "gotta have it NOW" politics, President Obama is a breath of fresh air.  He promised change, but change takes time.  Being thoughtful and willing to take time to consider changes is now considered "dithering".  Let the man do his job, people!  His predecessor had 8 years to mess everything up.  Can you maybe give him a little more time to turn things around?
Brian--I think you are right--the areas where people are frustrated with President Obama are areas that involve Congress as well.  I think maybe we hoped that Congress would follow his leadership instead of focusing on their narrow self-interests.
I know that I am pleased with the progress the President has made in restoring America's image around the world and that I believe he is hard-working and knowledgeable on the issues which he can personally address.  It is just so frustrating to see the Congress--and it is the Democrats who control it--squandering this opportunity for real change.
America, are you better off? You sure are. Then we had the news of the disaster that the market was heading for a cliff. Yes, we are suffering the results of the fall but we also have a government that is actually doing something about it and they started from day one. We have the first signs that the audacious steps taken are begining to work. It was a gamble but doing nothing but the same which is what the MCCain campaign offered, would have plunged us into a full depression and brought the world with it. We are better off because we have not been excluded from the business of government. We are better off because we are on the way out of Iraq and there is hope that we will find a way out of Afganistan that does not include 8 more years of death. We are better off with the re-emerging auto industry that would have been left to die on the dried up vine it had created all by itself. We are better off because we have some banks that are capable of doing business rather than millions more people left without their savings, without hope. We are better off because we were invited into the debate on health care. We were never inivted into any aspect of government decisions prior to this. We are better off because we know that our international status is changing for the better. We don't have leaders who are alienating our long-time allies. We have a government that is actually working. Is it a difficult time? Yes, it sure is. Would it have been worse under more of the Bush-Cheney direction. Everyone who is honest knows that is the case. Yes, we are better off even as we struggle with what was handed to us by a government that mismanaged, mis directed, told lie after lie....and in Cheney's case...continues to do so.
Too many of you people want instant gratification. Be patient and stop whining all the time. My family is definitely better off than we were a year ago. No we are not rich, but we do know how to be patient and not want everything at once.
This is awful. You all expect drastic change in 10 months from 8 years of crap.  Hell, things are still coming out about the lying Shooter.  To ask the President to fix all that is wrong in this short time span is to be as bad as the Repulicans asking why he hasn't fixed the economy yet.  One of the things, I think, most people like about him, is his pragmatism, deliberation, trying to make sure he has as right a direction as possible.  What is so wrong with that.  Yes, there are things "in the works," but at least they are in the works and not on the sideline.  I think you forget, CONGRESS enacts legisilation, not the President.  And the Republicans will do all they can to sideline the efforts of the Obama Administration.  He has reached out to the Republicans more than I like, but when you are Presiden of the people, then that is what you do.  Some of his base may abandon ship - I hope not - but to me, you do not abandon ship when the going gets rough.  I say it is time for us to man up, be adults.  Because guess what folks, you will only have the likes of Palin, the Bouncing Beluga, Romney, Boehner, Cantor.  Is that really what you want - you want the Bouncing Beluga to be right.  Think about what you are doing if you abandon him.  
Forget Huffington. I go with Nate Silver. These elections are meaningless to the Democrats and Obama. Go to his site and read.

Instead of stupid, inflammatory headlines, he actually explains the elctorate.
People are whining because they are impatient and want instant gratification.  This Congress has passed some significant legislation and Obama has signed it, a number of issues had been languishing for years because Bush would veto.  Life isn't about getting what you want immediately, it is about taking time to get what you need and build on it.  Wanting everything NOW is why people are mired in debt.  Take your anger out on the republicans who created the mess and give Pres Obama and the democrats some time to fix it.  
In this age of "gotta have it NOW" politics, President Obama is a breath of fresh air.  He promised change, but change takes time.  Being thoughtful and willing to take time to consider changes is now considered "dithering".  Let the man do his job, people!  His predecessor had 8 years to mess everything up.  Can you maybe give him a little more time to turn things around?


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