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Maine: Higher turnout than expected

Posted: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:48 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
In Maine, where a repeal of its recently passed same-sex marriage law is on the ballot, turnout is higher than expected, according to Secretary of State Matt Dunlap.

Turnout could be higher than 50%, Dunlap projected. He had predicted that it could be about 35%.

Dunlap said while driving around to various polling places, he was surprised by lines he saw. "Wow it's pretty busy here," Dunlap said he thought. 

So what does a higher turnout mean for the fate of the ballot initiative? It could portend well for those in favor of same-sex marriage, Dunlap posited, because the voters might skew younger. Older voters generally go to the polls -- no matter what or who's on the ballot.

They're "more committed," Dunlap said. Younger voters tend to spike when something piques their interest.

"The younger voter might stay home and say, 'I'm watching Wheel of Fortune,'" Dunlap said. "The older voter says, 'I'm going to do my civic duty.'"

Exit polls for years have shown that older voters are a much more reliable vote and skew higher, particularly in local elections.

Maine has slighly more than a million registered voters. Polls close there at 8:00 pm ET.

*** UPDATE *** Well, it looks like the higher turnout favored the activists. Maine voted to repeal its same-sex marriage law by a 53%-47% margin.

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Any moose voting today?
FR: "The younger voter might stay home and say, 'I'm watching Wheel of Fortune,'" Dunlap said. "The older voter says, 'I'm going to do my civic duty.'


It is really time for a poll tax.
Higher turnout means it will be repealed. American majority does not want this.
Get it right Maine - then maybe vote out Collins and Snowe next year
Yes the mission was accomplished, and everybody who knows what the mission was knows that fact.
You should understand the difference between a right and a privilege. When you know that, then you will understand. Got it?!!
Maine: Higher turnout then expected

People of Maine, please, go to the polls sober.
This is the one I'm really focused on

Let's hope Maine will defeat this silly fringe initiative
The balance is pretty evenly matched


Old people are against gay m,arriage
You people are for gay marriage

Let's hope the young prevail
In California, Prop 8 passed because of stupendous mistakes by the anti-8 side

Let's hope people in Maine don't make the same mistakes

I've been married 24 years to the same woman
We have two daughters
Our marriage will remain with or without gay marraige

Those who feel gay marriage threatens their own marriages must have superficial relationships

Nobody has the right to tell people who can or can't be married

Please Maine, vote to repeal the gay marriage law.  Typically in the past, higher turnout has been a good sign for banning gay marriage.  Let's pray this is true today, too.
wow- for someone living in Maine I'm pretty disappointed how people are talking about us today. Maybe you all need to worry about yourselves.
Some good news in this off year election. Maine passes same sex marriage, Washington State passes Ref 71, maybe a win in NJ?

No matter - our friends on the right will spin, spin, spin until they convince themselves that 2010 will see a rebulican majority in the house.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33609707/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

This outcome was inevitable.  The entire incident was unfortunate.  But certainly highlights an ongoing battle for equality.
There's a difference between a priest refusing to marry a male and a female - NATURE'S chosen partnership - and people refusing to buy the lie that homosexual relationships are the same and equal to heterosexual relationships. If you believe the latter, watch some nature films. Then tell me where in nature do two individuals of the same gender bond as a matter of course. And of course you won't be able to, because such a bond doesn't exist except in human society, where other forms of sexual deviancy - such as pedophilia, bestiality and necrophilia also exist. Heterosexuality is natural. Homosexuality is an aberration and deviant and, while it should be tolerated in society because it's practiced between two consenting adults, that doesn't mean it should be embraced or reckoned as being equal. Because that is a LIE.
The item about the justice of the peace not marrying the mixed race couple was interesting, especially from the perspective that he was discriminating equally against a black person AND a white person.
Hopefully the citizens of Main will do as the voters in California.  This needs to be repealed.  Time to take our country back from special intrest groups.
Young people watch Wheel of Fortune?  I thought the people who watched that show were the same people who watch Matlock!
I look forward to the day when "straight" people find something else to use as a weapon of division other than a committed relationship that will probably outlast the average, sanctioned marriage.  For that matter, find something else to think about other than something that SUPPOSEDLY has NOTHING to do with you.

Just a few more years and a few more dead dinosaurs and then MAYBE we can start making some progress.
Tiffany Barnes, I ask that you take your own advice and read the scientific findings that thousands of animal species exhibit homosexual physical activity and pair-bonding. It's especially common among dolphins and birds, who often raise combined families or abandoned offspring. Sorry, it's completely natural. Your hate is a product of your flagrant ignorance.
Hey Tiffany: Guess what? You are wrong. You need to get your facts straight before you start chirping. Prairie Dogs have homosexual relationships and so do bonobos (chimps).
To Tiffany Barnes - your ideals are antiquated, misguided and wrong, at best. To equate same-sex marriage to deviant behavior such as child molestation and beastially is disgustingly vile.  And as far as "natures chosen partner"... did you miss the set of gay penguins? Harry and Pepper are a pair of adorable male Magellan penguins at the San Francisco Zoo. The couple's relationship began in 2003, and they have been together for the last 6 years. The two black-and-white birds paired off when outgoing Harry befriended Pepper, an introvert who sticks mostly to his burrow. At the time, the two were adolescents and everyone assumed they were just friends. But soon they were nesting together. Harry would gather grass and bring it home to Pepper, who would arrange it tidily in their burrow. Single females would come around, but both birds never seemed interested.

They even adopted an egg together in 2008, as the pair was allowed to incubate and hatch an egg another penguin had laid. Just some food for thought.

Also - church and government are to remain separate in this country, so get your religious ideals off this debate. And for the record... Let's try for a minute to take the religious conservatives at their word and define marriage as the Bible does. Shall we look to Abraham, the great patriarch, who slept with his servant when he discovered his beloved wife Sarah was infertile? Or to Jacob, who fathered children with four different women (two sisters and their servants)? Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon and the kings of Judah and Israel—all these fathers and heroes were polygamists. The New Testament model of marriage is hardly better. Jesus himself was single and preached an indifference to earthly attachments—especially family. The apostle Paul (also single) regarded marriage as an act of last resort for those unable to contain their animal lust. "It is better to marry than to burn with passion," says the apostle, in one of the most lukewarm endorsements of a treasured institution ever uttered. Would any contemporary heterosexual married couple—who likely woke up on their wedding day harboring some optimistic and newfangled ideas about gender equality and romantic love—turn to the Bible as a how-to script?
First, while the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman. And second, as the examples above illustrate, no sensible modern person wants marriage—theirs or anyone else's —to look in its particulars anything like what the Bible describes.
"Marriage" in America refers to two separate things, a religious institution and a civil one, though it is most often enacted as a messy conflation of the two. As a civil institution, marriage offers practical benefits to both partners: contractual rights having to do with taxes; insurance; the care and custody of children; visitation rights; and inheritance. As a religious institution, marriage offers something else: a commitment of both partners before God to love, honor and cherish each other—in sickness and in health, for richer and poorer—in accordance with God's will. In a religious marriage, two people promise to take care of each other, profoundly, the way they believe God cares for them.

Get real, Ms. Barnes.
But these aren't special interest groups, these are people. Citizens. History never remembers those who stand in the way of progress and equality fondly. Go read the language in Virgina v. Loving, when faith-based special interest groups decided their god opposed interracial marriage for being "unnatural." Tell me how what you're doing now is any different.
RE: Tiffany Barne's comments
According to zoologists (you know those wacky scientist types) all mammals ever studied have shown same sex behavior from time to time. And those animals which generally mate for life (wolves, geese, etc) have been known to take same sex partners as well.

Please check your facts and don't spread lies. Lying is a sin you know.


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