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2009: What last night means

Posted: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:20 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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"Republicans swept contests for governor in New Jersey and Virginia on Tuesday as voters went to the polls filled with economic uncertainty, dealing President Obama a setback and building momentum for a Republican comeback attempt in next year’s midterm Congressional elections," the New York Times writes. "But in a closely watched Congressional race in upstate New York, a Democrat who received a late push from the White House triumphed over a conservative candidate who attracted national backers ranging from Rush Limbaugh to Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor." 

The Times’ Nagourney adds, “The results in the New Jersey and Virginia races underscored the difficulties Mr. Obama is having transforming his historic victory a year ago into either a sustained electoral advantage for Democrats or a commanding ideological position over conservatives in legislative battles.” 

The Washington Post’s Balz: “Off-year elections can be notoriously unreliable as predictors of the future, but as a window on how the political landscape may have changed in the year since President Obama won the White House, Tuesday's Republican victories in Virginia and New Jersey delivered clear warnings for the Democrats. Neither gubernatorial election amounted to a referendum on the president, but the changing shape of the electorates in both states and the shifts among key constituencies revealed cracks in the Obama 2008 coalition and demonstrated that, at this point, Republicans have the more energized constituency heading into next year's midterm elections.”

Politico: “The off-year elections were, in two big races, an unmistakable rebuke of Democrats, reshuffling Obama’s political circumstances in ways likely to have severe near-term consequences for his policy agenda and larger governing strategy.” 

The Hill: "Republicans received a shot in the arm Tuesday night with wins in two governorships previously held by Democrats, even while Democrats padded their majority in Congress. The wins, in Virginia and New Jersey, will give the GOP hope that independent voters may be giving the party a second look after a year of total Democratic control."

Norm Ornstein on last night: The "largest variable by far is local forces -- the candidates, the personalities, local issues, local political history. Right up there is the state of the economy, especially for gubernatorial races involving incumbents. Lagging substantially behind would be national forces and the president. To be sure, the national forces are not negligible. The president’s party usually has headaches in midterms, not least because of a typical pattern of an intensity gap; the out-party’s strongest adherents get increasingly angry, intense and motivated as time passes and they realize how awful it is to be out of power; the in-party’s strongest adherents grow progressively more disillusioned as their sky-high hopes that their president would give them everything on their wish lists get shattered or hopelessly diluted. If you are angry, you want to get up, go outside and punch somebody. If you are disappointed, you want to get in bed and pull the covers over your head. In low-turnout elections, that is enough to make a big difference.
 
"This year the partisan generic voting gap for all potential voters is little different than it was when Obama and his Democrats won in a landslide -- i.e., a sizable Democratic advantage. But the advantage narrows significantly for registered voters and essentially disappears for likely voters. Even so, those local factors still are the most important. Bad candidates can blow intensity advantages; good candidates can overcome intensity deficits."

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....likely to have severe near-term consequences for his policy agenda and larger governing strategy.”  

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What "governing strategy" ?
Short term patches for long-term problems such as two wars, double digit unemployment , high foreclosures, business failures triple the 2008 rate, highest number of bank failures since 1992 and rising, GMAC needing a THIRD dip in the public coffers, 600000 jobs by the summer of 2009 wich never materialized, 3 million new clean energy jobs never materialized, closing Gitmo, lower oil prices.


Where is the beef?
Tick Tock Tick Tock

Wake up call for Mr. Barack Obama!

No, not time to play golf, like ususal.

Time to act and become a leader who produces results.

Quit talking so much and make things happen.

This is truly only the beginning for the movement to eliminate the mistake of Biden/Obama 08.

No celebrating these victories, the wave will continue...2010, 2012

Fooled us once, not again!
Does the wins in Virginia and New Jersey mean that within three months if the economy and employment are not fixed under the leadership of the new Governors, then they should be impeached?
Fr I don't see the great setback you talk about.The republicans won two Governors seats,and how many times will these two be voting on policy in DC,what will they be bringing to the debate over health care,this is all about the MSM making a big deal out of nothing that even remotely is connected to Obama,but it's nice to see that FR was right along with the rest of MSM blowing this into a frenzy that will continue today.I'm sure the Steel man and Boy wondering Can'tor and Boner,and Rush and Bachmann,Pawlenty will all be like homecomming queens that just got crowned.But once you have given it up behind the bleechers you are just another Republiklan, so in need of a win that they will call this a great victory,but they won't admit that they won what????NOTHING.  
Living in NJ, Corzine lost because he was not very good at the job.  Obama did not factor into his loss.  State politics really ahve nothing to do with national when it comes to an election like this.  Conservatives can talk all they want about "how this election is a direct result of people's displeasure of POTUS", but they are wrong.  Look at the numbers, Obama is still just as popular in NJ as he was one year ago.  It comes down to the fact that Corzine was ineffective.  That is it.  NJ is still a blue state - 2 senators and a majority of the representatives.
Keep drinking the kool-aid Josh Larson. It would take a hell of lot more time than a year to clean up the garbage made by you Rethuglicans. Spare us your golf B.S. you most be confused w/ the Bush family and your hero monkeyboy Jr who took the whole month of august 2001 off while Obama bin Ladin was planning 9/11. As long as you and the righties continue slandering Obama I will bring up the Bush years as Well as the bogus Contract w/ America in 1994, trickle down Reganomics leaving a massive deficits, eliminating Clinton's surplus and LIES OF WMD'S. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE RIGHTIES SELECTIVE AND CONVIENT MEMORY AND OUTRIGHT LIES.
I guess George Soros did not order enough pints of cheap wine for ACORN to pass out to the ex-cons, junkies, illegals and parkbench winos they registered as Democrats!
It means the pendulum is swinging back the other way.

Obie blew it and will continue to blow it.
Key lessons for GOP from yesterday - keep Palin, Rush, Beck, and tea baggers far away from you if you want to win and run from the middle and not against Obama (McDonnel, Christie).

Embrace them if you want to lose (Hoffman) even in a reliably 100 year republican district.

For Dems, get things done and stop fighting and posturing. Agree on a direction and go solve some real problems or we will continue to sit at home!

If a candidate is damaged and not right for a spot, Obama, Much Money, or even Mother Theresa will not save them.

There's still sanity in this country afterall.
Corzine was a lousy Governor and very unpopular.

The real news of the night was the failure of Sarah Palin/Rush Limbaugh/Glenn Beck/Dick Army/Pawlenty/Steele/Boehner, after all their advance victory hoopla and $1,000,000 from outside NY, to win NY23!!  For the FIRST TIME SINCE THE CIVIL WAR it went Democrat, sending a loud message to the GOP that right wing Tea Party conservatism and empty slogan politics is not the way to make the GOP relevant again.

The NFL didn't want Rush Limbaugh and NY voters don't want a Glenn Beck/Sarah Palin groupie.

GOP extreme right is a Southern dynamic only.
It means Palin is the genius that the far far far far right thinks she is, would be my guess.
Last night meant cantor is stil confused along with the rest of you trying to tie this to the President,see Chris Matthew's ask Cantor to explain how he figures people are tired and he compares this on to the President see Chris said when Clinton won both times a republican won VIRGINIA ans when bush won their was a two time democrat at Governor but since you say that President Obama was in trouble that should mean he will win again but the comparison got tricky because Chris said that 9/11 happened in President Bush first term and didn't America rally aroud him yes but Virginia did not because Kaine won  yet Cantor who still has not gotten that silly look off his face tried his best to differ yet the spokesman for no just had no explanation worthy of comments so to the winner's congrad's but to the whinner's try again the White House and Congress still is operated by Democrat's except for those undercover Republican's or Congress folk's who still harbor racial feeling's, you know the one those who oppose a Public option not because of cost but they don't havea reason especially when they are membeer's of a Demorcratic majority no excuses for anybody knows that Republican has alway voted their party and when in majority they don't read bills neither or do they.
Now this is a serious question to all these President Obama haters or what ever you call yourselves,you complain about evry bill or anything he has recieved or given and want to know why he can't get hsi agendas out as you like.See when have sowm of you ever let a Black person tell you anything to do or have you fogotten that they usely have to ask can or may I never in History has some many caucasion people had to listen to a balck person and never a President of a high ranking officialhuh even our Safety officer's havea hard time you know Police fireman and some ambulance folk's no it is not easy for him he has the right  plan's and he does have supporter's the House a lot to truthful but the Senate seem's different for some  reason think about it a democratic majority a President's dream Republican or Democrat along with a strong House of Representatives who really know mainstreet and all or most of them either voted for him or campaigned for him and new his Vision yet all of a sudden going against the platform trying to bring himn down or discourage another minority candidate either way games so the question's or this, he isn't doing anything yet is bull all races voted for him the kids loved him last nigth was not his baby no he just tried to support a member of the party which it seems like no one else would do keep it up SIR you are what we need somebody who show's no prejudice but understands it call it what you like but as you work at your job observe things  again we might not get to the mountain top together but his Election was one step closer for some of us just not the one in Congress. Saying no to evrything from taking his wife out to buying a dog please'''''''''
 Someone better step up and start solving some of these problems such as unemployment, the economy and Iran.  Instead they are focused on Health care and Global warming.  Seriously, does this make any sense at all?  We are going to tax cow farts!  It is so ridiculous yet it is really happening.  NO ONE, including our President, has done anything that has been effective and relevant to the truly urgent matters at hand.
 Mr. Obama, as President, needs to grow up and start leading this nation for ALL of our sakes.  The campaign is over and he needs to quit trying to destroy anyone that doesn't agree with him.  Now that he is the leader, he needs to work on behalf of ALL Americans.
 I am so disappoint with this administration to date.  So many broken promises already!  We are even more divided and screwed up as a nation than we were under Bush.  I looked forward to the 2008 election.  I am already looking forward to the 2012 election.
 This President and Congress are the biggest bunch of losers to ever reside in Washington.  They ALL need to go, both Republican and Democrat.


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