I would like to see the CBO scoring of her bill and how many Americans would it cover.

"I have concluded that if any of these bills were to pass, healthcare cost would actually increase for many Americans,"

Just like all the whackos' on the net who have "done their research" and sell you acai berry juice.  Every independent group, the CBO, AMA, AARP, your constituents all want HRC.  Get it or get voted out, you will

i believe that the stimulus package was watered down because of susan collins and that she may try to do the same with healthcare , so all we will have is aboom for the insurance companies. I didn't hear about sen collins or any republican complaining about the size of the Bush drug bill. where was she then.

I have concluded that if any of these bills were to pass, healthcare cost would actually increase for many Americans," Colins said in an off-camera briefing with Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander. Later she added, "To me, we should rewrite the whole bill."
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Typical Republican't... ALWAYS a day late and a few $$$ short!  lol lol

Write away Susan... there will be no 'do-overs'!  You all had your chance to participate and instead chose to do NOTHING!

The time for compromise with the dopes of nope has long passed!!!

Republican's have absolutely no interest in a bipartisan bill. Their only interest is in their party as opposed to the needs and desire of the American people, and collecting insurance lobby money by doing their bidding.  

Tort reform:  How much has Tort reform (tried in several states)lowered Doctor malpractice premiums?

Answer" .4 percent

Tim, Seattle, WA (Sent Monday, November 09, 2009 3:19 PM)
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Now you went & ‘did’ it Tim!

Shame on you for putting an ACTUAL fact out there! :0)

When the righties read facts... it causes them to break out in a rash and foam at the mouth!

Remember though… they’ll NEVER let a pesky little thing like that get in their way and STOP from continuing the fear & smear chants! Or as I like to think of them… BOLD FACED LIES!!!

They sure think they have ALL the answers… when in reality they ONLY have NO… NO ideas… NO solutions… NO conscience… NO compassion... well you get the idea!

TAX INCREASES

Collins is right .... and we knew it from the start.

The party that "miscalculated" the economy big time will dump a giant tax bill in the lap of Americans should the Pelosi Health Care Bill be passed.

We know it's more politics than actual health care and we know doctors will flee the circus when told what they can charge and who's gonna take care of those extra millions and millions of people plus the rest of us with less doctors. I guess we stand in line like they do elsewhere and old people who have a chronic desease will be reviewed by a panel for further evaluation ... a "death panel."

Destructive taxes.

What's in your wallet?



Palomino
Moon Dawg
Monkberry Moon ... and the rest.

A Repub "blasts' a bill by Dems?
Git outta heah!

Donkey-boy
Dingle-berry
'Cling-ons' around Uranus
..............And a whole lot of others

Write away Susan... there will be no 'do-overs'!  You all had your chance to participate and instead chose to do NOTHING!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL (Sent Monday, November 09, 2009 4:46 PM)

They had their chance for at least 6 years that I can think of......

Alexander:
 RE-write??? How about actually writing something and not just obstructing and engaging in silliness out on the Capitol grounds with tea baggers??
 Write something other than that sorry-ass fake
you put out Saturday.

Remember though… they’ll NEVER let a pesky little thing like that get in their way and STOP from continuing the fear & smear chants! Or as I like to think of them… BOLD FACED LIES!!!

They sure think they have ALL the answers… when in reality they ONLY have NO… NO ideas… NO solutions… NO conscience… NO compassion... well you get the idea!

Feisty Rehead Roselle, IL (Sent Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM)


Just like the poor soldiers in every previous war, that poor brainwashed woman cackles happily that her opponents are beneath contempt, lacking conscience, compassion, etc. "they" aren't like "us", why they're republicant's (read Gooks, N-word Japs Krauts) dopes of nope. Propagandists learned long ago that the fastest way to break down a person's decency and morality was to de-humanize their opponents with hateful labels. You lady, are a hate-monger and one step away from being a bigot, if that much...

It is indeed true that comment sections are the sewer of the Internet, as the comments left here prove once again. Disgusting.

Its ridiculous that the R's are now opposing the bill when the Dems want to do something useful to the country. The R's had their 8 years during which they brought the country to its knees - now they want to ensure the country stays on its knees. For that, they'll do anything!!

Let's see, the AMA, AARP, other organizations have approved of the democratic version.  More bluster, delay and chatter from the GOP to confuse the masses and the message.  The democrats succeed and the right decides maybe they should at least appear serious because the public will notice they're on the wrong side of history. Amazing, they've had months to work on alternative health legislation and they're just now starting.  Wonder if it will look anything like Boehner's plan which the CBO skewered as more expensive and would add another 6 million to the ranks of the uninsured, did not eliminate pre-existing conditions or cancelling policies for ill people and so on.  We know a GOP bill will give more to the insurance companies and contain plenty of tax cuts.

In mass. we have so-called universal healthcare( 95% coverage).Premiums increased by 40% and, as there were no new doctors created and no new openings with fully-employed primary doctors, the newly insured returned to their doctor of necessity--THE EMERGENGY ROOM.Which means that there were no savings arising from financially innefficient ERs being abandoned for Primary doctors(of which we haven't enough).Mass. has run a defecit since the inception of the program(@ $600 million this year). And at the Federal level the cost is to be borne in part by a reduction in Medicare funding, i.e. less coverage for seniors.It would be nice to have health care we could pay for.

Ya know at this point the dopes of nope are in such a frenzy of obstructionism that we could allow them write the bill ALL by themselves…

And they would STILL vote NO!!!

I say no susan, the president has bent over backwards to reach the republicans for ten months and what did they come up with in the house - garbage.  The time for health care is now. Just do it.  Maybe on the next issue the republicans will step up before the last minute and actually try to work with the administration.

Good job Susan. Welcome home!

Even the moderates of the Senate, of which Collin's is card-carrying member, know what a joke the so-callef Health Care bill has become.

I am so tired of Susan Collins and her droning whine. I used to have respect for her but now I see she is just another wingnut pretending to be a human being.

Good bye Susan Collins.

Also I am not looking forward to the coat hanger-users again. What a mess that was!

And what makes it so bad that if you really wanted to keep your baby, then there are no safety nets in place, courstesy of the wingnuts.

I would like to line up all of these wingnuts with their hookers and extra marital relationships and know how many of them have paid for abortions for their girlfriends.

What a bunch of hypocrites. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford: the list goes on!

Come on Susan, get with it!  Don't you know, we all want free health care, now?  Make those taxpayers pay for it!

Sorry, Sen Collins, NO CAN DO

You had a chance to try making 'bi-partisan' compromises all year

You DIDN'T
WHY NOT ?

You're a year late and a trillion short

Nice Try, though

Republicans will try ANYTHING to derail HCR

This scam WON'T WORK

Dems are either fools, or they are just setting the hook, (unfortunately, it's probably the former). But come election season, the consolidated total of Americans that have died from not having health insurance will have surpassed 50,000 since debate began on this legislation. This needs to be HAMMERED home. And the reason-to protect the profits of insurance companies, (who only want to insure health people-and for goodness sake, no one over 65), should be hung around the necks of every republican running. It should be a blood bath.

"I have concluded that if any of these bills were to pass, healthcare cost would actually increase for many Americans,"

Just like all the whackos' on the net who have "done their research" and sell you acai berry juice.  Every independent group, the CBO, AMA, AARP, your constituents all want HRC.  Get it or get voted out, you will
Smells weird in Maine


Liberal rant: "I want it! I want it! I want it! But make someone else pay for it."

The only way to reduce healthcare costs is to eliminate the CEO's pay, bonuses, stock options and huge profits to insurance companies and costs related to maintain that system.

Expressed it in another way: the only way to reduce costs is to have a single payer system as the doctors want and support.

It's as simple as that.  Anything else is just beating around the bush.

They sure think they have ALL the answers… when in reality they ONLY have NO… NO ideas… NO solutions… NO conscience… NO compassion... well you get the idea!
Feisty Rehead Roselle, IL (Sent Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM)
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you gripe and gripe and gripe you want facts. I NEVER see you give facts, just nasty, vile remarks.  Why FIRST READ lets you continue to post here is beyond me; you've insulted so many ppl and been so vicious.  How is it living in the sewer?

Why has this wonder bill not been put forth already?  Where has she been?  Come on already.  This seems like a diversionary stall tactic to me.  She JUST NOW came up with a bipartisan plan that would do all these wonderful things?  Get real.  Are you paying attention Maine?  

2 trillion for Iraq, 2 trillion for Afghanistan, 2 trillion in tax breaks for the top 1%, 2 trillion in givaways to the oil/gas companies, 2 trillion in give aways to th banks - and that is just the last 8 years under "W" trickle down...but trying to get health care for americans, gosh that is too expensive.  what a mess..

Sen. Collins, it is the wealthy that will pay more. Those in lower income groups won't. So, yes there are some who will pay more but they can afford it.

The problem these days is spelled out in 5 letters...GREED. The banks and insurance companies are greedy and they have powerful lobbyists to keep the greed going. Too bad someone doesn't represent the people.

Don't bash her too harshly, my liberal friends.  We may need her in the end to pass a bill!

Hey where the heck was collins when bush and her fellow republicans were ramming the big giveaway to seniors and the drug companies down our throats or when they were dumping all over the constitution in the name of security?

She's doing a better job than Joe "I will not let this bill come to a vote" power-tripping Lieberman.

Come on people...
  The government has done such a wonderful job with our roads, prison system, banking, etc... Do we really want these people running our healthcare?  Just how do we cover another 45 million people without spending more?  Try and get your mind around  a trillion dollars, thats with a 'T' What does this deficit mean to our grandchidren?  

Tort reform:  How much has Tort reform (tried in several states)lowered Doctor malpractice premiums?
Answer: by $41B (this is B: billions) - CBO analysis of Republican plan.

MAINE  SHOULD RECALL THESE LADIES
LET IT COME TO A VOTE IF U DONT LIKE IT VOTE NO
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USING THE FILABUSTER 300 TIMES IN 3 YEARS IN NOT EARNING YOUR MONEY

What a douche  bag...i think that says it all

We are told the House bill will cost $1.2 trillion over the next ten years.  If the benefits do not begin for 5 years, that means the costs are over 5 years.  So what will the bill cost over the next 20 years?

How's this as an answer to the "spin and speculation" that is clouding the issues (on both sides) as to what would happen with various individual’s costs with the passage of healthcare legislation. We’re told in the media that this would happen, or that would happen and it's always discussed in  global terms with no specifics aside from strategist’s gloom and doom…. specifics are seemingly never offered , just sound bites and self serving comments  too broad to actually resonate with the various income strata's that would be affected...

Thus... why can’t there be a CBO cost analysis of all pertinent healthcare coverage categories, each reflecting the potential costs (both personal and how that category would impact the deficit) and population of those involved, with, or without healthcare reform.

For example:  1 - A median income individual with a corporate health insurance.  2 - A median income individual with private insurance coverage.  3 -A median income individual with a no coverage and a pre-existing condition.  4 - An individual at poverty level with no healthcare insurance.  5 - An individual on Medicare, etc.,etc. and again, state "clearly" how each of the legislations would impact each of the case studies, through individual costs, coverage, taxation, etc, etc.  In that fashion a person could look at where he, or she, stood within the matrix and what the cost benefits or liabilities they “truly” might be confronted with….... the way it stands right now, there is such a morass of speculation, mis-information and that it's impossible for the individual to ferret out exactly what the legislation would mean to their bottom line.....It's far too important to leave this to the incompetence that is becoming so blatantly apparent in congress...we need the transparency that was promised starting with true figures, not those born out through the "Mushroom Theory" of offering information

Ms. COllins - tell me about how well Maine is doing re health care coverage - oh and food stamps for the poor.  People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.  SHe and olympia need to go home.  

I have concluded that if any of these bills were to pass, healthcare cost would actually increase for many Americans," Colins said in an off-camera briefing.

She's absolutely right. Those Americans in the top 1% that have been getting a free pass will finally find the bill is due and they will need to pay up. For the rest of us we shouldn't see an increase. Some will see a decrease. If done properly, over time, everyone, including the filthy rich, will see a decrease in the cost of healthcare. One thing for sure the status quo and the Republican plan are NOT going to accomplish that. The Democratic plan may not either but will certainly come closer than the alternative.

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