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Congress: Bubba's message

Posted: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:14 AM by Mark Murray
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Per The Hill, here was Bill Clinton’s message to Senate Democrats yesterday: "The worst thing we can do is nothing." More: "Clinton called on Democrats to be ready to compromise, something his administration was criticized for not doing in 1993 and 1994. By contrast, Obama has been flexible -- some critics say too flexible -- on the ingredients of the bill he hopes to sign into law."

More from the New York Times: “‘It’s not important to be perfect here,’ Mr. Clinton said, recounting his comments to reporters after the lunch. ‘It’s important to act, to move, to start the ball rolling, to claim the evident advantages that all these plans agree with, and whatever they can get the votes for I’m going to support.’ He added, ‘I think it is good politics to pass this and to pass it as soon as they can.’”

Meanwhile, "Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) got the ball rolling on the health care reform debate Tuesday night by starting the process for putting the House-passed bill on the official Senate calendar," Roll Call says.

The Wall Street Journal looks at how Republicans overall have become more conservative on abortion, by virtue of having fewer moderates in its caucus. In May 2001, President George W. Bush signed an executive order banning U.S. foreign assistance to overseas groups that performed abortions or supported abortion rights. “Thirty-three Republicans in 2001 broke with their party to oppose the overseas ban. On Saturday, by comparison, no Republicans crossed the aisle on the abortion vote. The difference? Of the 33 Republicans who opposed the ban in 2001, 26 have since retired or been ousted from office. Nearly all were replaced by Democrats, with the heaviest shift coming in states like New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.”

Sen. Chris Dodd is not just rolling over for the White House on regulatory reform; perhaps he's got an eye toward a certain date in November 2010, election, er, re-election day? "The plan by Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) would shatter the existing regulatory structure, installing a new federal banking authority to take the place of four agencies, a bold step the Obama administration declined to take."
 
More: "But Dodd's decision to offer a plan significantly different from legislation moving through the House further complicates White House efforts to pass an overhaul by year's end, efforts already hampered by Republican opposition. It also promises to ratchet up the intense lobbying on Capitol Hill over the most far-reaching changes to financial rules since the Great Depression.

The AP says the bill proposes stripping “the Federal Reserve of its supervisory powers and creating instead three federal agencies to police banks, protect consumers, and dismantle failing institutions. The 1,136-page bill … would represent a significant shift in power in federal oversight of the US market. The Fed has been a dominant figure in managing the economy, although many lawmakers blame the central bank for not doing enough to prevent last year’s crisis."

The Washington Post gets into the legislative maneuvering. "If he can persuade a majority of Senate Democrats to sign on to his proposal, his vision for regulatory reform could prove tough to derail. While the House is also considering a bill on financial regulation, the Senate debate could be decisive because its final version would be more difficult to change given the challenge of garnering the necessary votes there."

A second stimulus? "Senate Democrats will take up a new job-creation bill in the wake of the 10.2 percent unemployment rate, Majority Leader Harry Reid told his colleagues Tuesday. Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) told The Hill that Reid (D-Nev.) made the announcement about a new jobs bill at the Senate Democrats’ weekly lunch."

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Tuesday’s  Follies...

And the shtick about the ‘children & grandchildren’ is rapidly growing tiresome!

-As has Obama and company in only a few short months!

Let me ask… did your grandparents leave your parents a ‘perfect’ world?  Did YOUR parents leave YOU a ‘perfect’ world?

-No, but then again, they didn’t try to screw my future like Obama is doing to our kids now did they?
FR -- > Bill Clinton’s message to Senate Democrats yesterday: "The worst thing we can do is nothing."

Which sums up Obama's first 9 months in office.
"By contrast, Obama has been flexible -- some critics say too flexible -- on the ingredients of the bill he hopes to sign into law."

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Or, if you're the G-NO-P, he's not being flexible enough.

If you're the G-NO-P, "Flexibility" and "Bipartisanship" mean "Do Exactly What We Tell You To Do"!
Better pop some corn Conservatives! Watching the civil war going on in the Democratic party is certainly excellent entertainment.
I'm not sure where to start.

So Sen. Dodd wants to create three more agencies to do what one is "supposed" to be doing.  Why not fix and restructure the one we have?  Why is every solution put forward lately (mainly from the left because they are in power but the right has too) to create create create more agencies to regulate this and generate that.  Its probably safe to say there is enough corruption (on both sides) already in the agencies that already exist.  

Shocker!!! A second stimulus is in the works.  Come on.  Aren't we told every night on most MSM channels that the first one hasn't even had a chance to work.  Can we finally get someone in power to admit the first one (though we needed something) was ill devised and obviously rushed?  A little transparency perhaps?  And don't give me the recovery.gov site.  That thing is about as accurate as guessing how many jelly beans are in a bowl the size of Texas.  

And before the "Bush spent this..created that...ruined this", yea I get it.  He and his administration made some mistakes.  I just wish some people wouldn't use that as an excuse to make the same ones.  Can we please stop rushing into things and perhaps breakdown the issues and solve them in pieces?  I'm trying to wrap my mind around health care and its 2,000 page bill when all anyone really wanted was pre-existing conditions to get covered, extended coverage to those who don't have it, and control health care costs.  All of these could have been solved in a bi-partisian fasion quickly instead of trying to overhaul everything and barely squeak it though.

And for the love of God, a little civil debate please.  It really doesn't help anyone's cause on here to just call people names and jump off the deep end when they differ from your own opinion.  I may be "younger" than most on here but I'd be ashamed at the maturity level of some people's rants on here.
How dare Chris Dodd offer a Bill to police Banks & protect consumers. If he does this the spoiled crooks on wall street,"Spoiled by the W Bush Administration", when they did whatever they wanted to & plus got Big Bonuses in reward for all their stealing". If Chris Dodd proposes this Bill they won't be able to steal anymoe. tsk tsk tsk.
How dare Chris Dodd offer a Bill to police Banks & protect consumers. If he does this the spoiled crooks on wall street,"Spoiled by the W Bush Administration", when they did whatever they wanted to & plus got Big Bonuses in reward for all their stealing". If Chris Dodd proposes this Bill they won't be able to steal anymoe. tsk tsk tsk.
gepa (Sent Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:49 AM)

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Wasn't Dodd the one that slipped in the amendment at the last minute that said it was OK to give bailed-out companies bonuses in the stimulus bill that no one read?
-No, but then again, they didn’t try to screw my future like Obama is doing to our kids now did they?

Kathy, Charlote (Sent Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:21 AM)

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Ah, there it is again.  When it comes to spending money, it's always "Oh- but what about our grandkids???".
When it comes to turning our environment into a toilet that our grandkids can live in, or 'drilling-baby-drilling' away our non-renewable resources, nothing is ever said.
Rebubs- gotta love their concern for future generations as long as they 'get theirs' first.
Betsy B.(sent Wed. 10:02)If it is in these crooks contract, Dodd's hands are tied and cannot break a contract no matter how much he wants to. Thank god though he has the balls now though to propose a Bill that will police these wall street crooks from reaping in all the $$$$$ for themselves & leaving this pathetic country bancrupt.
Didn't Obie reverse Bush's ban on overseas funding for abortions?  Shouldn't that money be used here in the US for jobs?  Hey Obie:  the number one issue for Americans is the economy and jobs - pay attention!
It is time for the Republican Party to reevaluate its purpose. Is it to remain the home of only those people with such a great advantage under current rules to reasonably consider any change? Is it to remain a party which stands against most things which society as a whole deems as good?

If this is the case, I believe there should be far fewer of these folks in the congress so that we can stop behaving like a third world country when it comes to dealing with those below the top of the socio-economic ladder. Clean house in 2010!
How dare you FR in disrespecting President Clinton by referring to him as bubba. You need to apologise immediately in writing. I don't see you calling Bush some of the names he so rightly deserves, neither do I as it is disrespectful. Dubya is okay because it is what his family calls him, a nice nick name as his cousin George P. Bush is called simply P. With so many Georges running around they have to distinguish one from another. I don't call Ronald Reagan,,Ray gun, nor do I refer to President Carter as Mr. Peanut or other such names like goober, for example. He is no goober but has a college degree and was the commander of a nuclear submarine. Goobers don't get such positions. I suppose calling President Obama Barry is okay as it was his nickname at one time. Some use Obie a mild insult, perhaps but nothing serious. Those calling Obama a Muslim are simply hateful, and deranged. He is not a Muslim and that has been proven over and over and over again. Just like he is a natural born citizen, born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu Hawaii. Last I heard Hawaii was part of the United States in 1961. Now had he been born there in 1957 he wouldn't necessarily be a citizen as Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959. But facts are hard for the righties to swallow, especially when those pesky facts get in the way of their rants and their hate.

I don't know where many of you live but where I live the stimulus is working. It may not have created millions of jobs in an instant but it is working to prevent further lay offs in some areas and creating jobs in others. Employment is a trailing indicator and the unemployment rate, although still too high, has slowed. It is like a runnaway train. It doesn't stop on a dime but takes miles to stop. And then it will take some time to reverse the train and get it to going full speed. Some estimates were wrong and that doesn't look good but things are happening, just be patient. The stock market is bounding back and that is a good sign. Banks are slowly getting back to lending. New restrictions on credit cards are going to make spending by consumers a little more difficult but they'll find a way to get what they need. Sometimes when prosparity and technology etc. are moving too fast they need a little slap down to get them to see reality. The Bush megarecession was one hellova slap down but I think we all learned from it. While measures will be made to prevent another such slap down there will also be measures in place to prevent a need for such a major slap down.

Unfortunately we've grown into a society that wants it all and we want it NOW. Patience will be handsomely rewarded. So for those who claim nothing has been done, be patient, good things are worth waiting for.


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