Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Former Republican — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:45:40 GMT

The gas tax holiday is a gimmick.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Clay Q. Waltrip — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:46:57 GMT

Early WV Exits: Obama sucks!!!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

The popular vote matters most — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:47:28 GMT

Everyone keeps talking about how Obama has won more states than Clinton. They keep saying that he has won twice as many states as Clinton. Well Obama has won twice as many considering he has won 31 states to date and she has won 16.

However, everyone that keeps making the argument that Obama has won more states is failing to point out several other facts about the states won by each candidate.

First, to make an argument based on the number of states won is flawed considering the states are not exactly the same size in total area or in population. Some states are very small in total area and population and others are very large in total area and population. So the argument that he has won more states is flawed considering Obama has won a bunch of medium to small states in area and population and Clinton has won 99% of the biggest states in area and population in the country.

Second, Obama has won to date, 16,050,924 votes to Clinton's 15,336,896 votes. That means that Obama with the 31 states that he has won, has won an average of 517,771 votes per state, while Clinton with the 16 states that she has won, has won an average of 1,961,738 votes.

So Obama has won 31 states to Clinton's 16.

However, Clinton has also won 1.9 million votes per state to Obama's 500 thousand votes per state.

In every state that Clinton has won she has won 4 times the number of votes that Obama has won in the states that he has won, 4 TIMES.

But you don’t hear anyone talking about those numbers.

There are 700 thousand votes separating Clinton and Obama and when she wins WV she will shrink that difference to 400 thousand and it will continue to shrink between now and June 3rd. All the Obama supporters are saying that the popular vote doesn’t matter. That’s funny considering two months ago that’s all the Obama supporters were talking about. And I want to see someone tell the superdelegate Al Gore, that the popular vote count doesn’t matter and see what he has to say about it.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

voter — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:48:49 GMT

I believe it is disingenious of the media and Hillary stating that she receives the older blue collar white voters because she understands them. Some of these voters have been quoted in stating that they will not vote for Obama because they believe he is a muslim. These voters are not voting for Hillary because they agree with her policies. They are voting for her because they refuse to vote for Obama because of his cultural background. Get real.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Pam, NC — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:50:04 GMT

Clinton = economy

Only an Obamabot would not vote for Clinton to restore our broken economy and bring universal health care to the country.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

plumbobber — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:51:00 GMT

Seven-in-ten WV voters believe the gas tax *lies* that Hillary has put out there. ...It's complete BS.

....But has she 'set up' WV voters to be supporters of McCain's gas tax plan??? (Afterall, they're voting for the economy--and believe this will bring relief.)

...NOT A SINGLE ECONOMIST supports the gastaxplan.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Eric, Salinas, CA — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:51:40 GMT

I just saw Norah O'Donnell on MSNBC reporting some early exit poll data that proves that the people of West Virginia are easily fooled by false pander. She showed that "Panderers" McCain/Clinton's gas tax cut holiday political scam were supported by 65% to 34%.

Sad that so many people refuse to pay attention to the facts and education and just go for the feel good pander lies that come from Old School Washington politicians like George "Wrong" Bush.

After hearing Barack Obama's wonderful speech this afternoon from Lush Limburger's home town it sure will be nice when Barack brings a fresh breeze to the tarnished White House. It will be nice to see him perform his Robin Hood approach to government to take from the rich and give to the poor. No more Sheriff of Notingham taking from the poor to give to the rich as we've experienced since Ronny Raygunz!

Go Obama 08/12!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Lorna, North Chicago, IL — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:54:35 GMT

Good grief. West Virginians are obviously hurting economically. And sadly they are probably working far too hard and have far too little education and little access to resources to help them understand the potentially damaging truth about the gas tax holiday. "Selling" them on a gimmick like that is akin to predatory lending. It sounds good up front but will cost them in the end!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

sara, mesa, az — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:55:34 GMT

These exit polls exemplify the importance of one thing: the need for EDUCATION -- to teach people how to think, to question, and to problem-solve. It is so incredibly sad to see these results in 21st century America.

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Sue, Chicago — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:56:05 GMT

Obama is right on the gas tax. We would be better off with the $1000 middle class tax cut Obama proposes - to help pay for gas, food, medical expenses, etc.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:57:27 GMT

West Virginia's results are irrelevant to changing the inevitable Barack Obama victory. Not enough delegates at stake.

Ever since the end of February the voter pool has been polluted by voters operating under the orders of their Overlord Limbaugh to create chaos in the Democratic Party primary. Between Ohio, Texas and Mississippi there were almost 250,000 of these traiterous votes. Most likely several hundred thousand more since so the popular vote pool has been too polluted with repugnant ones trying to sabotage our primary.

I'm sure the supers aren't blind to this fact, even if the media tries to ignore it.

Go Obama 08/12!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Tony, GA — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:57:42 GMT

Hillary;

We still remember;
Everything you went through; all of the pain and heartache, when our hearts went out to you; and all of the hard work only to come up short on healthcare plans back in the 90's...and all of the hope and optimisim when you decided to run for the NY Senate seat. And all of the promise when you said you would be there to "Take on Washington". And our disappointment when you came out in favor of war...

We still have hope for you, and we still are behind you and pray for you. you can still be an important part of the future; unless YOU decide not to be.

We understand the rethoric of the campaign and how you think that Obama cannot win without "your" supporters...but we must collectively caution you that your current "stance" on Obama's electability goes against everything we as a Nation have learned over these past months. We have seen him and experienced it personally, as he has electrified the electorate. We have researched his positions and come to realize that his stance(s) on issues like healthcare has a better chance of "working across party lines". We have come to realize that given today's economic realities, and now necessary restraints, true "Universal Healthcare MANDATES" will not pass, and could not be funded even if they did. We all know the pain of having to put our own healthcare costs aside, in favor of those for our children, and sometimes even grandchildren.
We all fully understand that discussing a nuke option in the middle east without ever sitting down with the parties involved to even ask them if they would consider another option or compromise; is both foolish and counter productive, in that it sends a signal that for all intents and purposes will only serve to drive up the cost of oil, and further distance us from the other power states on this planet; who are also vying for their share of oil and resources to bring their countries into some parity with the US. We do not think that our roads and bridges can suffer the loss of revenue of a "Gas Tax Holiday"; and we do not see anything "Holy" about the proposal. It belittles us to suggest that we would (or should) put our own personal pocketbooks above the needs of our Nation, whether it is for roads or healthcare.

We are constantly worried when your political rethoric of the moment, is valued more than the lives of our soldiers in the field; and we are very hurt personally, when that rethotic could very easliy be adding danger to their missions; by giving a "potential" enemy the impression that it may be best to aid those who are against us in the field.

We want to continue to support you Hillary, but the needs of a Nation in dire straits must come before our fondest wishes for you.

AMERICA FIRST!!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:01:25 GMT

We could have predicted 60 years ago how West Virgina would come out today! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!

It is clear to me what the difference is, the states West of the Mississippi or more progressive and educated. A lot states on the on the east side of the Mississippi still live in the past never fully understanding those who live around them. They stay locked up in there homes always afraid of those who are different.

Obama will win every state West of the Mississippi with the exception of Arizona McCain%u2019s home state. Obama is well loved out here in the West we always look into a mans heart and see his soul . That is how the West was won we always look ahead. We do not have all the problems you have on the east side of the Mississippi, we always look forward instead of backwards.

The hate and racism you have handed down from generation to generation in the East does play well out hear in Gods Country. We are not perfect out hear butt we will give a man a honest hearing.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Tony, GA — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:02:06 GMT

Hillary;

We still remember;
Everything you went through; all of the pain and heartache, when our hearts went out to you; and all of the hard work only to come up short on healthcare plans back in the 90's...and all of the hope and optimism when you decided to run for the NY Senate seat. And all of the promise when you said you would be there to "Take on Washington"; and our disappointment when you came out in favor of war...

We still have hope for you, and we still are behind you and pray for you. You can still be an important part of the future; unless YOU decide not to be.

We understand the rhetoric of the campaign and how you think that Obama cannot win without "your" supporters...but we must collectively caution you that your current "stance" on Obama's electability goes against everything we as a Nation have learned over these past months. We have seen him and experienced it personally, as he has electrified the electorate. We have researched his positions and come to realize that his stance(s) on issues like healthcare has a better chance of "working across party lines". We have come to realize that given today's economic realities, and now necessary restraints, true "Universal Healthcare MANDATES" will not pass, and could not be funded even if they did. We all know the pain of having to put our own healthcare costs aside, in favor of those for our children, and sometimes even grandchildren.
We all fully understand that discussing a nuke option in the middle east without ever sitting down with the parties involved to even ask them if they would consider another option or compromise; is both foolish and counter productive, in that it sends a signal that for all intents and purposes will only serve to drive up the cost of oil, and further distance us from the other power states on this planet; who are also vying for their share of oil and resources to bring their countries into some parity with the US. We do not think that our roads and bridges can suffer the loss of revenue of a "Gas Tax Holiday"; and we do not see anything "Holy" about the proposal. It belittles us to suggest that we would (or should) put our own personal pocketbooks above the needs of our Nation, whether it is for roads or healthcare.

We are constantly worried when your political rhetoric of the moment, is valued more than the lives of our soldiers in the field; and we are very hurt personally, when that rhetoric could very easily be adding danger to their missions; by giving a "potential" enemy the impression that it may be best to aid those who are against us in the field.

We want to continue to support you Hillary, but the needs of a Nation in dire straits must come before our fondest wishes for you.

AMERICA FIRST!!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Rob, Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:03:03 GMT

An ABC poll showed that 20% of Clinton voters admitted that race was a factor in their decision.

How exciting that Clinton has been great at courting the racist vote.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Cecil B., Norris, OH — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:03:50 GMT

And WVs will not vote for Obama because they know he'll kill of their livelyhood by implementing Al Gore's Global Warming, ehh, Climate Change carbon credit hoaxes. Obama doesn't talk too much about this, he's too busy babbling about "Change".

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:04:09 GMT

Latest polls suggest that Clinton is picking up support from John McCains base which is the following:

White Americans that hate people of color.

White Christians that hate people that do not look like them.

White Americans that have very little education.

White Americans who do not care about their own personal economic condition.

White Americans that want to see the sons die in an un-justifiable war.

White Women who hate man still seams to be Hillary Clintons primary support.

The New York Times Op-Ed: By BOB HERBERT

"I dont know if Senator Obama can win the White House. No one knows. But to deliberately convey the idea that most white people or most working-class white people are unwilling to give an African-American candidate a fair hearing in a presidential election is a slur against whites."

So what she is saying to all of you is if you are White Trash I am your girl. So vote for me so the South can rise one more time. If I was White I would run as far away from her as a could. This is not the vision for America. Remember everyone she was a Goldwater girl when she was younger.

THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN ACCORING TO HILLARY AND BILL

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Gregory Peek, Birmingham, Alabama — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:05:54 GMT

It seems to be a classic example of one of those states where young adults, especially those graduating from college, have to leave the state to find employment.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:07:34 GMT

LOL! We could have predicted 60 years ago how West Virgina would come out today! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN! LOL!

It is clear to me what the difference is, the states West of the Mississippi or more progressive and educated. A lot states on the on the east side of the Mississippi still live in the past never fully understanding those who live around them. They stay locked up in there homes always afraid of those who are different.

Obama will win every state West of the Mississippi with the exception of Arizona McCain%u2019s home state. Obama is well loved out here in the West we always look into a mans heart and see his soul . That is how the West was won we always look ahead. We do not have all the problems you have on the east side of the Mississippi, we always look forward instead of backwards.

The hate and racism you have handed down from generation to generation in the East does play well out hear in Gods Country. We are not perfect out hear butt we will give a man a honest hearing.

Update 5:00pm - Exit polling is starting to become available. Well have it for you as it comes out. Stay tuned.

Update 5:20pm - As per WV voters:

Who shares their values: 70% Hillary Clinton, 45% Barack Obama.
51% say that Barack Obama shares the values of Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Who is honest: 63% Clinton, 47% Obama.
Who can beat McCain: 61% Clinton, 29% Obama.
Who is more qualified to be Commander in Chief: 68% Clinton, 29% Obama.
Should HRC stay in the race: 78% yes, 17% no

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Sue, Elyria, OH — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:09:42 GMT

Please MSNBC quit giving the Clintonians air time. I have already stopped watching your TV shows until this primary is over, please allow me to view your First Read columns.

Why such praise for this monster?? Next thing you know the media will be making her a saint.
WTF?? Do you think we are all ignorant??

Substance--
Listen to his speeches. Instead of looking at him; listen to the words. If you are not a good listening; visit his website; issue upon issue -- proposal after proposal; The media is the venue which is supposed to report the news. They never repeat his proposals--their main focus is his race. Then they proceed to tell us--the American people--to look past his race. WE DO! Look at the 2004 Presidential Maps--Dems V Rep...............which candidate is carrying the Democratic counties?? Barack Obama that's who. Quit polling the Limbaugh republicans and skewing our numbers. Rush is laughing his as# off--He even said she would not have made it past OH without him.

Thank God the American people are smarter than the media gives us credit for.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Shawn Goddard, Burlington, VT — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:13:02 GMT

Hmmm, interesting. WVs think the economy is very bad, feel that it's their #1 concern, AND 7/10 of them support Clinton's gas-tax holiday. Well, clearly we can conclude a few things:
1. WVs won't be turning their economy around on their own.
2. Like Clinton, they have no use for economists.
3. We probably shouldn't pay attention to WV voters when we try to decide who would be the best president.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Obama becomes president and helps push through education funding that allows his most ardent critics to get an education?

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

just another blogger in seattle — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:14:58 GMT

having started a few blogs with national and international audiences, i'll toss on that west virginia is ALWAYS the last state from which we've zero visitors. eventually, SOMEBODY from there will show up, but west virginia is consistently last.

though i suppose saying so ON THIS BLOG might not help them, much.

saw clinton speak a while back and refer to her "world wide web site" -- among other anachronistic, if even accurate wording with respect to web sites, blogs, or anything online. she is not quite as out of touch as pres. bush or sen. mccain, but she sounded darn close and darn old.

sen. obama, on the other hand, is so on target with his use of technology. it's exactly the right prescription for america, too -- whether west virginia gets it, or not.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

shirley daguerre,los banos,ca — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:16:46 GMT

Virginia is a racist state,I don't know why the media and everyone else,don't admit it.
This blue collar working class is just a code word.
I am 70 years old,white and have $25,ooo income and I am for OBAMA

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

John — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:17:27 GMT

If only they could see past skin color to improve their financial future they would not be the 48th poorest state. Year after year, they are tricked by pandering politicans that goes back to Washington and forgets them.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Barb, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:17:34 GMT

Well, what can you say, that is Hillary's low information base. Do they not have newspapers or t.v.'s in West Virginia? To vote based on that bogus gas tax holiday. They really think she could get something like that through in two weeks. Stupid!

This state most definitely does not represent the rest of the country in any way.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Frannie — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:20:27 GMT

What a surprise!. ABC News, MSNBC, FOXNEWS and CNN pundits should be dancing in the streets.
HIllary's gleeful race baiting campaign starting with the USA Today article WORKED. She is the white supremists darling girl. West Virginia's VOTERS !! the TRUE representation of the classic HILLARY SUPPORTER. The Bastion of clear and compassionate thinking that the world in 2008 is waiting to emulate. She will be held up as a hero to all the Klan leaning racist, hate mongering bigots this side of the confederate flag. IT was easy for her. No ONE in the media called it for what it IS.

By the way ...anyone who advances the idea that because 90% of black people "might" be
Pvoting for Mr. Obama, "Only because he is black" is about as informed about Black folks as the rest of us who think ALL West Virginians are modeled after the "DELIVERANCE" mold. NEWSFLASH!!! Black folks LIKE THE MAJORITY OF ALL VOTERS are voting for Barack Obama BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST and SUPERIOR CANDIDATE.
PERIOD!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Alex - Bellevue - WA — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:22:19 GMT

Some business is booming in West Virginia - for instance.., the linen store sells a lot of sheets for local rallies where people are hooded and the hardware stores sell a lot of rope....

We REALLY need Obama - we really need change.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

justthinkinoutloud — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:26:41 GMT

While I feel for the west virginians, I can't help but think how that it is their own dammed fault. Lets see now, voted for the shrub twice, thanks west virginia for voting with your bible instead of your brains and making the rest of us suffer also. And now to make matters even worse they are going with Hillbillary, who by the way could give a rats ass about you when it is over, but they are just to ignorant to see it now. They rank dead last now in education------------ this is just too painful, I can't go on. The rest of the country can only hope that some day, they will put down their bibles, learn how to read and write, study the issues and maybe get back in the mainstream of american life, no state can be an island or you will pay the price economically. And by the way west virginia, coal is not your future, there will be alternative energy sources, to bad you can't figure that one out also, maybe then you could start making wind turbines or solor panels. Oh well we can only hope, hey hope is what Obama's campaign is about, go figure.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Dan, Denver, CO — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:26:47 GMT

Why does the media let Hillary get away with saying that she's the candidate for white working class Americans just because these rust-belt state whites are voting for her? There are tens of millions of hard-working blue-collar Americans in the western states where Obama has dominated the white vote. When did journalism become just reporting?

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

WV --- DUMB STATE, DUMB RESULTS ............. — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:29:37 GMT

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NBC's AnaMaria Arumi adds that West Virginia is a state slow to change, and one where the “new economy” has hardly made an impact. One national organization that ranks state economies based on the technology, innovation, and other resources that help fuel job growth rated West Virginia dead last.
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WV --- DUMB STATE, DUMB RESULTS .............

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Anthony, San Diego, Ca — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:30:25 GMT

WOW no wonder why WV ranks dead last, they think that gimmicks are good ideas. I see why Sen Obama did not hand around WV long. Let them stay dead last making less then $50,000.00 a year since that is what they enjoy. You say government gives me a 3 month $30 savings the gas companies and owners raise the gas price during that time for profit you loose the savings. Politicians have no say over that no matter how they try to paint it and Sen Obama knows it and we the people know it also it is just so sad WV does not know it.

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

C.K. BLANTON , WALNUT CREEK, CA — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:31:22 GMT

GO AWAY, HILLARY!! WE ARE ALL AMERICANS-STOP TRYING TO DIVIDE US - HAVEN'T YOU LEARNED, YOU CANNOT CONQUER US!! WE ARE ALL AMERICANS!!

Early W.V. exits: It's the economy…

Buster — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:35:08 GMT

HILLARY=LYING
HILLARY=MONICA, PAULA, GENNIFER
HILLARY=DODGING FOR SNIPER FIRE
HILLARY=WHITE SUPREMACY

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Jay, Arlington, VA — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:35:10 GMT

Why aren't you covering the Pentagon/Media propaganda program?

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Enri, Oceanside, CA — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:35:45 GMT

West Virginians are really in the dark ages. They think that Sen Clintons $30 gas tax is better then Sen Obama's $1,000.00 stimulus toward the middle and lower class. That is really sad or else they just do not know how to research information for themselves.