Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Carol, Long Valley NJ — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:51:49 GMT

Math, an inconvenient truth,

No matter if you count FL and/or MI, HRC still needs between 73% and 75% of all the remaining available delegates. Possible? yes, Likely? not really.

Thank you Senator Clinton, you have run an amazing campaign, but you've lost BASED ON THE RULES of the Democratic Party. It's time to come around to the candidate with the most delegates, the most states won, and if you count the caucus states by some proportional representation, the most votes won (by millions) as well.

Please Senator Clinton, you are a very smart woman, it's time to acknowledge the truth and unite behind Senator Obama. I truly believe that you have the makings of a very great Senator, but I just can't see you as a President at this time.

And I'm supposedly in your demographic, a woman over 50 ...

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

James, Wichita, KS — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:52:10 GMT

We love you Hillary... and will love you more when you finish up and join the choir singing for real change.

Let's get together and take our country back!

http://laststopmidwest.blogspot.com

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Ken, Boston, MA — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:53:02 GMT

PLease Sen. Clinton, for the sake of the Party and the Country - drop out and work to make sure Obama wins in November.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Cory (SC) — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:53:17 GMT

Wow, can't we just end this thing tomorrow finally and move on? Where does the Clinton campaign keep getting these insane talking points from that they are using to keep this thing going?

http://www.politivine.com

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Janice Rockett — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:54:10 GMT

Please call Obama for America at 866-675-2008 and let them know you don't want Hillary Huckabee on the Obama ticket.

Tell a friend ...

OBAMA '08

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Hussein — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:54:30 GMT

Right, her claim to the thrown is much more compelling! This primary may not stop on May 20, June 3rd, or even in August at the convention. She will simply set the bar a bit higher for Obama (subsequently herself too!) and state that a candidate must receive 23,789 delegates before we can name a winner.

Who is more at fault here? The media for putting a mic in front of her or herself.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

mike dee, shamokin pa, 17872 — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:55:21 GMT

its all irrelivant, john mc cains are next prez,

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Sick of hearing her.... — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:55:32 GMT

Just as saying you are the best qualified candidate to be the next President, doesn't make it so Hillary.

Will someone PLEASE put the filly down?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Matt, Idaho — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:55:32 GMT

Superdelegates, this is what happens when you stay on the fence too long. I hope you are proud of yourselves.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Joe, New Haven CT — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:56:09 GMT

Um...Hey Howie W.....IT'S OVER!!!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

UNITE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOW — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:56:14 GMT

THe number is 2025 you idiots.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Fontapa, Portland, Maine — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:57:51 GMT

LOL - is Clinton citing delegate rules?

That's just plain incredible. She runs ads claiming a lead in popular vote, which is patently untrue by election rules, and holds no weight under DNC rules, and she makes hundreds of comments and ads about honoring Michigan and Florida votes that are illegal under DNC rules...

Can someone please hit the gong already? Is there anyone left with an IQ and a keyboard that can agree with her fantasic scenarios and hypocritical BS anymore?

This is why we all want her to quit. Since she can't win, everytime she does this she's actually attacking her party's nominee. She's rapidly approaching the threshold between campaigning hard and becoming a traitor to her party.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

markus, Boston, MA — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:58:30 GMT

Please!!!! this woman has used every metric, goalpost and scenario to spin the fairy tale that she is somehow winning...she is NO position to criticize ANYONE...

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Achilles, Las Vegas, NV — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:58:42 GMT

Come on Supers - let's end this farce -

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Carol, CA — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:58:43 GMT

We are choosing a Democratic Party nominee...someone who may well be President of the United States!!

Senator Obama can't just arbitrarily PROCLAIM himself the nominee...now that's AUDACITY of the worst kind!!
This is exactly why so many Democrats have a problem with Senator Obama...on top of no experience, poor judgement, left wing liberal agenda...top that off with ARROGANCE!!!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

souzan, alexandria, va — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:58:48 GMT

shame on you HRC. Shame on you

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

MANDY, California — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:59:13 GMT

And if he gets teh 2025, will Wolfson say it has to be 2210?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Brian M. De — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:00:08 GMT

My goodness they will whine at everything.They are still throwing out at this point a false number 2210 but that is typical of the Clinton camp.Why does her campaign be honest with the public? She was out manuevered by a implied newcomer with little experience. Yet he cleaned her clock using a plan he had outlined all along. If she had planned for a battle all along instead of a coronation it might have been a different outcome. Oh well it's time to pop the cork and move on to the GE.Obama 08
80000 supporters doesn't lie

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Scientific, Philadelphia — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:00:25 GMT

To: Howard Wolfson, Communications Director
From: Interested Parties
Date: Monday, May 19, 2008
Re: re: Mission Accomplished? Not so fast.

It's over. Cut the crap.

While I'd love to assert that because LeBron scored 45 yesterday and Paul Pierce only 41, the Cavaliers should move on to the next round. Unfortunately, the rules of basketball are that the victors are decided by scoring more points than the defeated, and Boston scored more than Cleveland. Game over.

The sooner you and the Clinton campaign stop dividing the Democratic Party with this kind of rhetoric and get behind Obama, the better.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

iowan — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:00:36 GMT

No, Howard, your client's attempt to manipulate the rules, discount various votes, disenfranchise other voters, is what is a 'slap in the face.'

The bottom line is that Sen. Obama will have more than half of the elected/pledged delegates by tomorrow evening. Is that not cause for celebration? Particularly with the supers who have said that's the standard by which they are likely to award their votes?

Howard, your client's 'toughness' and 'fight' have certainly been revealed. But, along with those things have been revealed her character, her judgment, and her executive ability----you, sir, need to respect the voters, not try to furher confuse them. Exit, stage left, Snagglepuss.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

MANDY, California — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:00:44 GMT

And if he gets the 2025, will Wolfson say it has to be 2210? If he gets 2210, will Wolfson say it has to be popular votes? Is there an ACTUAL GOAL LINE?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Matthew, Newark NJ — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:00:50 GMT

What is this woman's problem? Does she want to hand this thing to McCain?? She is continuously dividing the party with letters like this. She is further stoking the anti-obama sentiment among her backers, so much so that their anger will be such that they actually vote against their own best interests!!! Hillary needs to stop! Yes: the Overt attacks have stopped but her innuendo affects people on the subliminal which I think is far more damaging! I don't get it. I thought she didn't want McCain to get in.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Bobbi, Eau Claire, WI — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:00:58 GMT

You said it Hill!
3
2
1........
Obamatrons commence with the insults..
Truth hurts, don't it?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Chad, Salt Lake City Utah — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:01:03 GMT

Howard Wolfson is the scum of the Earth. If Hillary had picked a decent human being instead of him I fully believe she could have won. It is Howie that painted her in a corner as a mean spirited liar, Hillary's biggest mistake was to go along with it. When this is all said and done, lets just agree that he is scum.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Jacie, NY — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:01:04 GMT

Hillary talks about the rules of the DNC...is she kidding??? She discounts the rules with her claim on Michigan and Florida - that she actually won MI and FL, inspite of the fact there was NO CONTEST to win! So the rules exist ONLY if it works for her....does she really think that the voters are that stupid?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Mister Anderson (The Matrix) — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:01:05 GMT

Give it up Hillary.

You gave a beautiful performance, but now your campaign has jumped the shark and you're starting to look like a singer who won't get off the stage after the curtains have closed, the band has stopped playing, the audience has left, and the lights have been turned off.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Pablo Hussein, Littleton, CO — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:01:07 GMT

Apparently Wolfson didn't get the memo that we're working on uniting the party. Obama has been very careful not to call himself the nominee or claim victory by securing a majority of pledged delegates. Time to stop with the idiotic letters to "Interested Parties".

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

kris STL — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:01:40 GMT

Keep collecting debt than Clinton, but do not expect the American people to pay for it. we have enuff of our own, you know with gas being $4.00 a gallon. Your bi-polar campaign isspinning out of control and I am getting dizzy just watchin. enuff with the craziness.
FR can we get some real news tht doesn't involve Clinton and her dillusions?? what about the story of the campaign fundraisers from both sides coming together??? Anything, but Clinton trying to keep herself viable and make Obama look bad.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Sam, Muncie, Ind. — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:03:04 GMT

I first believed it a slap to the face of Obama supporters who donated to his campaign the suggestion he should bail her foundering campaign out of financial hock.

Then I decided it is the right thing to do. She's a Democrat — though you couldn't really tell it these days — and if he's true to his message, then he should come to her rescue.

Now, after Ferraro's latest and most ridiculous statement that Obama was "terribly sexist" during this campaign, and with Clinton's refusal to accept reality and continued vigorous campaign to stifle Obama's obvious victory and paint him as unelectable, I firmly believe he should leave her in the ditch.

Enough is enough.

http://gibbsv.blogspot.com/

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Marihelen — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:03:35 GMT

IMO, Obama has played the last two weeks in a way that boosts HRC's ability to say stuff like this.

If Obama had continued to campaign instead of running out the clock, he would likely be in a heck of a lot stronger position to make that claim on Tuesday re pledged delegates at least. As one of my friends said, as a basketball player, Obama should know better than to just run out the clock.

I think it is possible Obama may end up being embarrassed tomorrow night and may have some regret about taking these last few states for granted.

The math is insurmountably in his favor, but this sure isn't how I would have chosen to see him conclude the final weeks of the campaign.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

nuanced — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:03:58 GMT

a little thin skinned are we?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Brian M. De — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:04:31 GMT

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Larry Etah — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:05:05 GMT

OBAMA HAS NEVER SAID HE WILL DECLARE VICTORY ON MAY 20, 2008. THE INNEVITABLE DEFEAT OF THE CLINTON POLITICAL MACHINE AND THE SPEADING OF FALSE ASSERTIONS BY HER CAMPAIGN WILL NOT CHANGE WHAT THE ENTIRE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS, THAT OBAMA IS THE WINNER.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Tom, Winston-Salem, NC — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:05:41 GMT

What if Sen. Obama, at the end of the day, nets 50 pledged and 67 Superdelegates? Hmmmmmmm? What then? New memo needed, perhaps?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

PK — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:05:53 GMT

Why can't everyone respects other's vote. With all the comments stated about Clinton is about them not liking the Clintons', so they attacked. Allow the voting to go on and may the majority win. This is the American Way.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Dave, Phoenix, AZ — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:06:04 GMT

Are there any more straws for her to grasp at? Just when it looked like she was exhibiting a modicum of decorum, not her campaign (and her) back-handedly compare Barack to President Bush? She needs to realize the world doesn't revolve around the Clinton name.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Erwin, NJ — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:06:18 GMT

Hillary: Give it up.

It's over.

It really is.

No matter how you parse it, nothing adds up in your favor.

Retain some dignity.

It's over.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Achilles, Las Vegas, NV — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:06:24 GMT

This kind of Rhetoric is very dangerous. Clinton needs to be shown the door since she will not go quietly. I respect her efforts, however this is a false statement on many levels as Obama has been overly gracious and hyper-careful NOT to say he has won anything.

Driving a wedge between both groups of supporters is a grave mistake for this nation and she should be ashamed of herself to make so many false claims.

She does NOT have more votes.
Obama is NOT declaring victory.

She is hurting this party and herself with this CRAP.

Come on Supers - Grow a pair and get her out of here SOON. We cannot sit by and watch her pour gasoline on the fire.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

KC, WC, PA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:06:53 GMT

Boy... How about you guys figure out how to pay off the 20 million you wasted on deli trays, when you should have been fighting(fairly) for the nomination, instead of worrying about the Obama Camps declaration of victory. You should have sent some internal memo's waking everyone up when Obama was ahead by five primaries instead of waiting until he hit ten to decide you really wanted to participate in the primary process. Sorry, I supported the Clintons in the past, but it's time to switch to real leader who shows up with his game face on.

Obama '08

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Dr B, Phoenix, AZ — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:07:53 GMT

And declaring you've won
"the most votes"
doesn't make it so either, Hillary camp. Grow up. Obama has been very careful to say he's not the nominee, although he will be. Why don't you just keep racheting down the rhetoric and finish out your last few elections and then get down to the real business of getting a Democrat elected by supporting Obama and having your followers do the same? It's all up to Clinton. In a few weeks, we will see what she's REALLY made of and whether she has any honesty about her at all when she either follows her word to support the Dem nominee or she follows her ego and guns for 2012.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Terry,Great Plains — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:07:59 GMT

Hillary give it up. All you are trying to do is raise money to pay for yourpersonal debt and to utilize your wins as leverage. After the June pimaries please leave the race unless you want McCain to win.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Lifelong feminist For Obama! --- CA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:10 GMT

What a sick and sorry campaign Hillary Clinton has run. Wolfson is a bad joke. I wish Mrs. Clinton the very best, but feel saddened by her behavior and disappointed in her candidacy. Her supporters have made disparaging remarks about Obama supporters for many months, with vitriol reaching new heights over the last two weeks. That aging racist pit bull Geraldine Ferraro being especially disgusting, the raging Emily's list fascists and the so-called low information blue collar hard-working white Americans all need to wake up and join with the rest of the Democratic party to elect the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.

Barack never said he would declare victory tomorrow night. I am so tired of the way Clinton's campaign and followers twist Obama's every word. Why do people do this? Do they believe this will help them win elections? Crazy...

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Keith, American Fork, UT — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:16 GMT

While I agree that Obama should do no victory laps until the race is over, I find it amusing to see Hillary do to him what Gore did to Bush in '00. The sore loser just can't help but come out in Democrats and they will twist themselves into a knot trying to claim victory. Hillary will do anything to win or to thwart an opponent. She will leave a bad taste that will not go away in time for another run in '12. Hurrah!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Eric — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:22 GMT

Thats it Team Hillary, cause as much division as possible, even though you have absolutely no chance. I strongly believe that we should treat Sen Clinton and her supporters with respect, but what is the point of this memo if not to create more division. Hillary, I want to embrace you, please show some class.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Eric, Salinas, CA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:56 GMT

Just more lies from "Bag Lady" Hillary trying to put false words in Barack Obama's mouth. As usual "McCain Hugger" Hillary is doing more damage to Barack than the repugnant ones.

Barack will correctly claim he has won a majority of pledged delegates, the only true measure of the will of the people. He has consistently said he would not claim victory until he gets over the 2,026 total that excludes Florida and Michigan who should be punished for jumping the gun on their primary voting dates.

Go Obama 08/12!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

JIM WHITTAKER, Hemet, CA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:09:07 GMT

Old woman yells at cloud!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Hermine Clouser Middletown PA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:09:14 GMT

Many who earlier were ho-hum about Obama's candidacy, who said, I'm not worried, it's not going to happen, are now facing the prospect on the horizon of the first African American president, and they don't like it. Hence, there is a lot of fight left at this late stage in the democratic race. Obama '08

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Roy Warner, Milwaukie, Oregon. — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:10:05 GMT

The question I asked 2wks ago is, how come Obma can raise $50 Millon in one month. When the other canditates only can raise $7-8 Millon. I know Opra has been helping him. This give me a felling some of his money is coming from the middle east.
I am a registered democrate. Know way will I vote for Obma. I just don't feel he can do the job, like McCain can.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Paul B chgo, Il — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:10:38 GMT

Hey First Read!!!!!!!!!!!
I read on Politico that Sen. Byrd from West Virginia has endorsed Obama this morning!!!!!!!
An truth to this!!!!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

matt — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:12:06 GMT

But where does the Clinton camp get the math for a clean Hillary win? The only way for her triumph is for superdelegates to drop Obama en masse and giver her the nomination basically on a technicality. That brings us the same anger we see from HRC supporters from the Obama side. Equally bad. And almost impossible to achieve.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

CitizenJ — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:12:22 GMT

Saying the number is 2210 does not make it so.

Saying only the states that you win matter does not make it so.

Saying you have the most votes as long as you don't count some of Senator Obama's does not make it so.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Eric, Salinas, CA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:12:26 GMT

I'm sick and tired of hearing "Warmonger" McCain twist what Obama says with his tortured logic. Barack was completely correct to say that Iran is tiny compared to the vast military might that used to be the Soviet Union. To say differently just proves "Alzheimer" McCain is just trying to revise history for his own political ends.

Now Russia has become one of our biggest problems when it was heading towards being one of our friends thanks to "NeoNazi" Bush shooting his arrogant ignorant mouth off at them and not allowing them to join NATO.

Go Obama 08/12!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Joy for Obama, Virginia — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:12:26 GMT

Wolfson doing what he does best, selling wolf ticket! LOL!

Anyone want to wager that if the shoe was on the other foot, Ol' Hill would be claiming victory. Remember the her victory celebration of the non-victory in Florida. Who knew that would be a sign of "THINGS" to come from Camp Hillary. LOL!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Kari, Augusta, Wisconsin — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:12:26 GMT

It is truly time for the Democratic Party to move on to the general election. Barack Obama is our nominee - by old math, new math - whatever way you want to count. It is time for us to come together.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

jimbo — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:13:33 GMT

I used to think that you were a very intelligent may, but I have changed my mind with the fact that you now sound like a very ignorant man that has been swept away by both Clintons. But, maybe I forget that this your job and you just don't want to admit the truth!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Bob, Texas — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:13:41 GMT

"Declaring mission accomplished does not make it so."

You mean like "I have received the most votes."????

or..."He just can't win the white vote"

or..."She can still win"

In fact...Obama (and his immediate staff) never said "Mission Accomplished", but Clinton/staff certainly are responsible for the other quotes.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Anthony, GA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:13:57 GMT

"Although the Obama campaign has been careful recently to say that tomorrow night's event in Iowa will celebrate the candidate securing a majority of the pledged delegates -- not victory in the Democratic contest."

According to the Clinton camp, now the Obama campaign is supposedly declaring victory? Sheesh!

This is getting so tiresome! Can't wait till June.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Diane from Illinois — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:14:06 GMT

Apparently it isn't going to be over until Hillary SAYS it's over. Is she a control freak or what? After tomorrow it'll be time for the rest of the coward Superdelegates to end this thing FOR Hillary. Go Obama '08.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Eric, Salinas, CA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:14:18 GMT

The new Gallup Poll shows Obama with a 55% to 39% lead over the Bag Lady nationwide. So where is this majority she speaks of that support her and not Obama? In her own mind is the only place where she leads the rightful winner Barack Obama.

Go Obama 08/12!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

leslie, indiana — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:14:25 GMT

Just more foolishness and polorization...how sad. The Clinton camp should use their paper and pen to raise some money to pay that 20 million dollar debt off.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Class Warrior, D.C. — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:15:13 GMT

God Almighty, I'm tired of tat woman! Can't she just admit defeat and go away? I really, truly think there's something pathologically wrong with her that she denies reality so strongly. GIVE IT UP, HIL!! YOU LOST!!!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Beverly, Chicago — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:15:58 GMT

Mr.Wolfson,

Remember Hillary has a problem with those numbers; and that according to Hillary allows her to be the nominee and the President of the USA!

If you continue to allow Hillary to Change or Make New Rules; her Claim to being the best nominee is tainted.
No one can follow a fickle leader.

Plus, remember Hillary has a problem with those numbers; and that according to Hillary allows her to be the nominee and the President of the USA! Those numbers will change again; not because of Hillary but, because neither of you can SUBTRACT, Mr.Wolfson.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Charles — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:16:11 GMT

Howard Wilson and other Clinton’s surrogates should be careful as to what they say, and do a reality check or enrol in first grade where they teach math. They are living in most expensive fantasy at the expense of poor so called hard working white Americans, and are prolonging their own misery. They had bet on the wrong horse and better get on Obama’s program or else find themselves out of job and hope.
Hillary was a badly tainted candidate and even with all the deceptions, lies, race card, fear card, gender card, she failed miserably and has lost any sense of reality. She now wants to be the Vice-President and her husband to be then appointed to the senate so now he can sexually use interns again. This is not going to happen.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Susan — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:16:20 GMT

He may not have the magic number, but he has won in every metric there is. The only way Hillary can win is to cheat, which would destroy the party and cause her to lose in November. Us independant voters don't like to vote for people who have to cheat to win.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Mark R., South Montrose, PA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:16:49 GMT

If Senator Clinton can claim a popular vote lead that does not exist, why can't Obama claim victory?

Clinton has cited every metric and combination of metrics for months now; none of which actually existed.

While majority of the pledged delelgates may not be an official metric, it is worth noting that it will then be IMPOSSIBLE for Hillary to receive more elected delegates than Senator Obama. A claim of a victory of sorts holds alot more truth in it than any statement released by the Clinton Campaign in at least two months.

This continued muddying of the water by the Clinton Campaign is becoming pathetic!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

L. Mann — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:17:34 GMT

Hillary is absolutely right!

Declaring oneself the victor before the votes are over would be the epitome of hubris - we have already suffered from arrogance and hubris in the last 7 years with Bush.

Let the people vote, let the people decide. If nobody gets the requisite number of delegates required today, there are still more states to vote and the issues of Florida and Michigan to settle. Superdelegates have not all decided yet either.

Once all votes are in and all issues settled, then the nominee will be decided and there will be no hint of impropriety or favoritism. If the contest has to go to the convention to choose, so be it.

The Democratic Party hasn't had this much press attention in decades. A few more weeks of prominent news coverage will only help our case as more voters get to hear the Democratic message.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

MI Chick — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:18:23 GMT

"Declaring mission accomplished does not make it so."

Way to channel Bush, there, Clintina. Are you saying Obama is Bush now? Doesn't sound like party unity to me...

Seems like your team is the only one who doesn't think it's over, not matter what your delusion tells you. The math just isn't there. Just because you encourage your supporters to turn off the TV and turn away from the media (as to keep them uneducated about reality) doesn't make your vision reality, either.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Dave, Ca — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:19:17 GMT

Alternatively, we could carve out a Republic of Appalachia, allow it to secede from the union, and appoint Clinton President and Ferraro, V.P. They can declare victory early and often and deliver a cost-efficient universal dental plan.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

waltham, MA — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:19:42 GMT

What a bunch of losers - Obama clearly said he would not be declaring himself a winner tomorrow. Rather, he will have won majority of pledged delegates - that is a big difference. Regardless, Hillary's camp claim of 2210 is just another example of their moving the goal post - they should know:-
a) we are not stupid
b) we know what the rules are

OBAMA 08

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Philimus, Cleveland, Ohio — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:20:10 GMT

The Clinton camp is getting increasingly pathetic in its attempts to spin away the reality of delegate math.

Consequently, it becomes harder and harder to take anything Hillary's campaign says seriously. Obama knows perfectly well where he stands, and it is as the Democrats' presumptive nominee for president. Meanwhile, Clinton continues to try to sell the idea that she's even ahead in the popular vote, which is a total lie because she counts Florida and Michigan (the latter of which is a state where Obama wasn't even on the ballot) but not the caucus states he won.

This leaves us with only one of two conclusions. Either Hillary's staff people are brain-dead stupid or they think we are. I am so glad that all of the primary voting is almost over. Only three more weeks to go. Yay!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Cindi in Louisiana — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:20:12 GMT

I too think that this is a mistake! I have been troubled by the Obama campaign's strategy recently; that is to "ignore" Clinton and these remaining primaries. He is sure to get pounded in Kentucky tomorrow and I have heard that his once impressive lead in Oregon has dwindled to a measly 5%!! What is up with that? Someone from Oregon please weigh in and tell me. Obama has literally been looking ahead to the Super Bowl before he has won all of the playoff games! What a mistake in judgement to underestimate the Clinton Machine, one of the most powerful in recent history. I understand that these superdels can change their minds all the way up to the convention and they just might do that, given this WEAK 4th quarter performance by Obama. Let's face it, he will lose BIG in Puerto Rico and even if he wins South Dakot and Montana, there are few dels and pop vote in those areas. I hope that this "counting your chickens before they are hatched" atrategy doesn't lose the nomination for him.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Tom, Winston-Salem — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:20:22 GMT

What will the Wednesday morning memo be about ... that West Virginia has spoken (except for Robert C. Byrd, who apparently lost it this afternoon and will now have to be rejected and denounced)? That the 51 pledged delegates garnered by Obama on Tuesday evening make Michigan and Florida mathematically moot? Or just that ... give it time ... something horrid may be learned about Sen. Obama before the end of August (hope, hope, hope)??

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Jay, The Batcave — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:20:34 GMT

Obama has been very careful not to take this process for granted. The Clinton camp, Wolfson and company, et al need to quit attempting to manipulate this process to their self serving will.

Obama has not tried to rewrite the rules to suit his campaign the way the Clinton camp has. And I'm certain that they don't want an examination into who has acted more like Bush & Rove thus primary season.

You want to campaign? Delightful.

Just check your hypocrisy at the door.

Obama '08

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Ron Indiana — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:23:30 GMT

If Billary does not gracefully resign, the Super delegates will have to essentially dismiss her. Sure, she has the right to stay in, but why? It's time to turn our attention on McOld. It's time for Hillary to start supporting Barack instead of herself. Tomorrow she will win in Kentucky and on the 6/1/08 she can win Puerto Rico. Hillary, the fans are leaving the stands, the game is over and you are approximately 175 delegates behind.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

BobW Mendon, NY — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:23:36 GMT

Wolfson, just get over it. Hillary can still drop out of the race and leave her name on the ballot. What part of the math do you not get? Do you really think the super delegates are going to steal this election for Hillary? I dare them to...it will only result in a McCain victory in November.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Gavin — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:25:25 GMT

...Except that the DNC "magic number" is clearly not the number Clinton outlined. As they have had ample opportunity to reassess their numbers, they only adjustments they have made were to bump the magic number up to 2,026; the DNC added a few delegates because of the special elections the Democrats have recently won.

Nice try Hillary-camp, but referring to the DNC as the final metric sinks your own argument.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Mel — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:25:31 GMT

Um, there IS ONE scenario under the RULES of the DNC where Obama could win the majority of the 2025 Delegates required for the nomination this year under the DNC RULES. If the party follows the RULES to which EVERYONE (including Hillary) agreed - then Obama wins.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

jim stalls — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:25:41 GMT

Go girl, that's the spirit!

The qualities of a leader is not measured by talk and charismatic messages alone but by the determination to finish the job, i.e., until a candidate is declared. Talk is cheap, so enough of the accusation and pipe dreams from the O-Bomb-a camp, OK?

Let's face it: Bush had done enough (unanticpated/unintentional)damage to this great nation, and I truly believe that this is only the beginning. Any potential successor has the greater likelihood of mucking it further and blame his/her predecessor. This will likely happen if the entire nation is naive in putting a person in the president's seat with a short public service experience. It is like having an "intern on training wheels" running a billion-dollar company as a CEO.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

FablesExposed — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:26:52 GMT

Obama has said repeatedly that he will not be claiming victory tomorrow.

But in misrep #1 Wolfson bootstraps from a "quote" from an anonymous source to represent that Obama plans to claim victory.

From that (misrep #2) he asserts that Obama is slapping the face of voters in OR, KY, SD, and MT.

Finally, (misrep #3) he tries to associate Obama with the image of Bush on the aircraft carrier. But Sen. Clinton gave Bush authorization for the war while Sen. Obama opposed it.

Should we tar Sen. Clinton with Wolfson's misrepresentations?

Loss of credilbility is the cumulative cost for constant misrepresentations. Unfortunately, Sen. Clinton's campaign long ago crossed that threshold. No one expects to believe what they say anymore. No even expects that they expect us to believe what they say anymore.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Mel — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:27:07 GMT

I swear - the mental gymnastics Hillary's campaign expects people to perform here - it's simply astounding!

Hillary's campaign is cherry-picking the rules they will follow. Her campaign can either (1) follow the rules that say Florida and Michigan do not count b/c they BROKE THE RULES and held their primaries too early - or (2) she can protest the rules and take the nomination because she feels that she deserves it -- for whatever reason (more popular vote INCLUDING Michigan where hers was the only name on the ballot, more delegates from some grouping of states she deams to be important - whatever...)

I have no problem with her campaigning to the end of the primary season - I think she SHOULD - but she needs to stop this nonsense...she is blatantly trying to undermind the legitimacy of Obama's nomination should he recieve it - She and her supporters who are organizing to campaign AGAINST Obama should he be the nominee - are hurting not only the Democratic party and the country - they will be acting antithetically to everything for which Hillary claims to have fought her entire life. They will be trampling upon the very womens' rights issues they claim to trumpet. Consider for a moment what a Bush-McCain Supreme Court would do to women's rights (look at what they have already done to Brown v. the Board of Education)...

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Louis Spore, Clifton, New Jersey — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:28:54 GMT

I certainly hope it isn't over yet. As disgusting as Clinton's leftist politics are, BO's are much more so. How can the Democrats nominate someone who sympathizes with an American hater and the leader of the black Muslims?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

jesse St.Paul Minnesota — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:28:56 GMT

Howie ,I wish you would give up the spinn cycle,here are the facts,,,,More delagets,more states,more pop vote,more supers both his and some of yours,and your team wants more rule changes as the game goes on,On tuesday he will put that count out of reach and will execpt the party nomination,and you can get started on that tell all book about how you got thrashed.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Vicki, Florida — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:29:30 GMT

Note the memo was addressed to "interested parties."

I wonder how long it will be until they find out that no one is really "interested" in their twisted metircs.

Just a thought.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

CRAIG SALZMAN — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:29:35 GMT

I THINK THAT SEN CLINTON IS BEING SELFISH. INSTEAD OF HER TURNING THE ATTENTION TO UNIFYING THE PARTY INSTAD OF FIGHTING THESE PRIMARIES WHICH REALLY HAS NO MEANING DUE TO SEN OBAMA WILL HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE PLEDGED DELEGATES AFTER 5-20-08 SHE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT AND RISK HAVING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LOSE THE PRESIDENCY IN NOVEMBER SO SHE CAN RUN AGAIN IN 20012.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

AJ, IL — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:30:09 GMT

Not so fast Hillary Clinton! Is not tommorrow the deadline date for filing April 2008 campaign finances for the presidential candidates! How much actual debt did Hillary amass in April? How much more money did Hillary actually lend her campaign?

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

JF, SC — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:30:38 GMT

Sounds like Bush all over again. Premature celebrating....Obama supporters keeps saying Clinton this or Clinton that when she tries to find a "number" or scenario where she can win the nomination, Yet it is ok for Obama to declare himself the winner even if he does not have enough delegates. The media has hyped the superdelegates and fail to telll the american people THEY DO NOT MATTER UNTIL THE CONVENTION. This is not going to be decided untill the convention is over and the votes are cast in Denver. People need to take their med's and relax. Let democracy work and the process play though as it was laid out to.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Sandra, Tennessee — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:31:34 GMT

This is soo ridiculous. Obama has said hopefully he will have a majority of the pleged delegates after tomorrow which is one step closer toward the nomination. How can a woman who is constantly blowing her horn regarding the very questionable majority of popular vote in good conscious make an issue of this upcoming milestone. Hilliary appears to be completely losing her grip. Everytime she releases these indignant memos, the SDs increase their support for Barack Obama. Everytime I start having a little respect for her, she starts foaming at the mouth again. I am starting to count the days until the American public will not have to listen to this nonsense anymore.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Mike, Albany — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:31:49 GMT

All that over an "anonymous quote"?

Also...

"While Senator Obama inaccurately declares himself the nominee..."

OK clinton folks, please back this statement up with a quote.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

John, MI — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:32:09 GMT

He will have the majority of pledged delegates, and if the majority of superdelegates override the will of the people it would be un-american as our government is supposed to be controlled by the people, otherwise we wouldn't even vote.

I swear, some democrats have to be the dumbest people on earth. In no way would HRC actually help this country.

I'm voting for McCain so its a mute point, but would rest assured vote for anyone but HRC.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Rokkhy, Brussels — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:32:28 GMT

Obama is the winner anyway, we already aknowledge it here in Belgium!!

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

100% for Senator Obama — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:33:11 GMT

I am a staunch Obama supporter, but I do have to say this--I watched my governor make a victory speech late on election night, and woke up to the fact that his opponent had been declared the winner because of a "computer glitch due to a storm". The republicans then continued to harrass him and he ended up in prison. That was and is Don Siegleman of Alabama. We have waited this long, a few more weeks and the victory can be proclaimed by Senator Obama. It is right to cautious in the type of political environment we have in the US. I am confused on her reasoning. It only makes her look bad to me. Is it really all about raising money? Oh, well, time will move us on.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Ron Seattle — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:34:26 GMT

Wait a minute Hillary. The DNC is really unlikely to change the goal post this late in the game

I will be glad when the DNC finally meets and seals Hillary's unrealistic expectations.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Houstonian, Houston, TX — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:34:33 GMT

If you were so concerned about FL/MI why did you not stand up for them last year. CLINTOS would say anything to get vote.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Sue, Bloomington, IN — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:35:18 GMT

Clinton's campaign grasping at straws yet again. She is at this point taking money from her supporters under false pretenses.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

NObama-MI — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:36:38 GMT

I thought Obama had already declared himself the winner----but I can wait until the 20th.Guess I thought he had already won is because so many sites today are quoting why they will vote for Mccain instead of Obama----Because of the media and the DNC forcing Obama down everybodys throats,and if you do not vote Obama you are racist,uneducated,poor and not a true Democratic voter.Read where 30,000 Democrats have quit the party.Perhaps Todd could give us some numbers.

Clinton memo: Not so fast, Sen. Obama

Cindy Lou, TX — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:36:44 GMT

I guess the Clinton campaign's new motto is "never let the facts get in the way of a poor argument." Hillary has been claiming all sorts of things for the past few months--only the states she's won matters, the caucuses don't matter, only hardworking whites matter, etc., etc., etc. Now her campaign has the nerve to critize the Obama camp for actually stating the fact that he'll reach the majority of pledged delegates tomorrow if all goes as planned. What's wrong with that?

Ugh.