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scorpioleidee - Glenwood, IL — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:31:29 GMT

Whatever the number after FL & MI are settled, Barack has more than enough Super-D's in the bank to END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL and send Hillary Huckabee back to New York ... Thank God!!!
OBAMA '08

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she, CA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:31:58 GMT

well obama will still be ahead so it doesnt matter

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LeGarcon — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:32:44 GMT

"...by tonight, a new compromise plan will become the plan du jour..."

That would be the "plan du nuit".

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wondering — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:33:23 GMT

What's the bottom line for each campaign?

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KJ, Dallas, TX — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:33:30 GMT

FedUpDIMWIT, Washington, DC:

I think someone who continues to support a candidate who is corrupt, lies, and has enough scandalous baggage to fill an ocean liner is the "ignorant" one. You "Cling-On" supporters keep edging her on even though you know she's not going to win the nomination, which will only further divide the party and this country, but you don't care about that do you??? She couldn't care less about you and your misplaced infantile admiration.

OBAMA, 2008!

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Vermonter — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:33:38 GMT

Counting the popular vote? Why. I'm confused by that line since it's entirely meaningless as far as the rules are concerned.

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GA GUY — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:34:45 GMT

I don't think that this compromise would be badly recieved by the Obama camp; since he has already demonstrated a willingness to do this in the past.

Clinton's camp is another matter altogether. Since this wouyld not "win" her the nomination, look for her to fight this.

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voter — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:35:39 GMT

I don't like the plan especially about the popular vote which I believe is unfair. Obama did not campaign and others did not vote assuming their vote will not count. With that being said, I think the deal should be accepted which will allow everyone to say that the election is fair and within the rules of the DNC meaning the delegates will be halved. Second, it is time to be truthful about the popular vote argument of Clinton which is false. Her arguement disenfranchising caucus states. I thought Clinton says every vote should count.

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Geoff, Tulsa, OK — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:36:08 GMT

The real question now is IF HRC agrees to this now, what prevents her from changing the goals again at the convention and demanding a vote on the floor?

To trust her to keep her word about this is just too bigger stretch based on her past record of agreements.

Geoff

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Heidi in Houston — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:36:55 GMT

I like to find out about all potential comprimises. Keep 'em coming.
Yes, by all means, count the popular vote. However, this is a contest for delegates. Terry McAuliffe said so himself this morning while being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell and I about chocked on my coffee.

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Margaret, Columbus, Ohio — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:09 GMT

I suspect Obama will obfuscate some more and Clinton will be blamed.

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Pat, Boston, MA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:18 GMT

Summer is here!!!! Barack Obama is the democratic nominee.

I went out and bought 3 WWII spy novels and can't wait to sit back and escape from Hillary Clinton and Lanny Davis.

Wonder what the magic number is for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays? Now there's a great comeback if ever there was one.

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:34 GMT

Hillary would be our nominee by now if Florida and Michigan waited their turn to hold their primaries, say, on super tuesday, and they were fully counted, because Hillary would've won them, hands down, giving her a clear super tuesday victory, and unstoppable momentum. She is only losing the nomination because of a quirk in party rules, which is artificially benefitting Obama...he is simply unelectable in the general, and any Obamabot who can't grasp that is simply drowning in the kool aide!

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James Tn — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:37 GMT

Sounds like a plan to me........So let it be said so let it be written........No matter what plan they come up with she still cant catch Obama in the pledge delegates...Geeeeeeeezzzzzzz.....Ok now I get it is despiration just part of a womens make up....Could a women answer this for me.....Cause the race has been over long time ago.......And by the way Altogether Now

Repeat after me:

"GOOD MORNING PRESIDENT OBAMA".......OUR ONLY CHANCE TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.....AND BRING OUR TROOPS HOME....4100+ DEAD AND RISING.........NO MORE DOA'S.......BUSH\CHENEY = WAR CRIMES.....

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Jason, Fairfax, VA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:43 GMT

Seems fair enough.

-J

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Achilles, Las Vegas, NV — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:44 GMT

Chuck -

I am all for whatever compromise they can work out that the Clintons and their supporters will not protest all the way to the convention. I am disappointed that it will ultimately be unfair to Obama, as neither vote was contested - but as long as they move on and put the issue behind us I am all for it - as it won't change the eventual outcome either way.

Anything at this point!

Can you guys at FR extrapolate any fair popular vote numbers from the caucus states Obama won? It seems unbelievable that Hillary will have "an" argument that she has won the popular vote, but was defeated by delegate math (which make perfect sense to most of us - but think of her supporters). I beleive any coverage of her beating him in the unfair calculations of the popular vote undermines our chances in Novemeber.

Good work as always -

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C.K. Steele Fort Lauderdale, FL — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:56 GMT

Hopefully this will be the end of this mess. My question now is how will the "pledged delegates" be selected and what will stop those "pledged delegates" from acting like "superdelegates" and switching allegiances? Also, I forgot but can you list the number of MI and FL superdelegates again?....And for the super bonus could you list who they're leaning toward? Thanks.

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HJ Knott, Columbia, Missouri — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:37:56 GMT

Here's a compromise. Count the peoples vote!!

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Thomas - who-follows-the=rules — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:38:21 GMT

Is everyone else as sick of hearing about Florida and Michigan as I am? This is ridiculous! They broke the rules and now the whole party is in an uproar, people are planning demonstrations and TV is providing wall to wall coverage! What is wrong with this picture????

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Matt, Saratoga Springs, NY — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:02 GMT

When you report on the possible compromises (and the eventual solution) can you print a revised / projected delegate count so we can see what the impact of the compromise and it's effect on the "magic number" will be

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Senator Obama needs to play hardball — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:12 GMT

I read a story about Senator Obama playing "Hardball" in chicago politics--I'm glad to know it. Now is the time for that necessary quality to come forth. Playing by the set rules is a "change". Most policticians ignore them, break them or try to re-write them during the game.

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Bee — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:18 GMT

I hate the democratic party with full passion, though, i intend to vote for Obama in the fall. The party is being controlled by special interest and Clinton's hack. The party has no leadership whatsoever. They are spineless.

Why are they trying to rob Obama of this nomination? Why are they changing the rules at the middle of the game? Why is media fueling this controversy?

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Feisty Sweetie Roselle, IL — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:51 GMT

This just in...

Daily Kos has an article that Nancy Polsi said she would step in and NOT allow this to go to the convention for a floor fight... I sure hope that's true because this SOCIOPATH needs to take a long rest!

WHAT an embarassment to the fine thinking woman of this country - this coming from a 40 something educated woman who can't wait to see Obama as POTUS come January!

OBAMA ROCKS!

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GG, FL — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:52 GMT

absolutely absolutel not.................

You dont' reward the Super Delegates for Breaking the rules

Din't the DNC Lawyers say the must split the Delegates by 50% just like the Republicans did and are not complaining?

50% and Equal Split is the only fair and equitable solution.

MI & FL Broke the rules and they should not be rewarded for it. Sen. Clinton gave her word and took it back, she should not be rewarded for doing that. Sen. Clinton's only interest in FL & MI is to use these states to get what she wants.

If the Lawyers are correct and they don't follow the rules BY CUTTING THE DELEGATES TO 50% IN EACH STATE you can be sure there will be a LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST THE DNC FOR BREAKING IT'S OWN RULES.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE COURTS WILL NOT THROW THIS SUIT OUT.

AS LONG AS THEY PLAY BY THE RULES EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE.

MILLIONS WILL FILE THIS LAWSUIT IF THE DNC BREAKS IT'S OWN RULES. FAIR IS FAIR.

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Sick and Tired TN — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:40:02 GMT

If this passes, it will set a new precedence...that anytime you are loosing in an election, you can alter the rules in order to get more votes, regardless of what you pledged to do (or not) previously (and before you were loosing). I can't believe this is being allowed. This says alot about our so-called lawmakers.

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twin — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:40:08 GMT

If this is true, why has'nt Hillary called off her 'Broad's Brigade', or 'Vigilante's for Votes', plan?

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Bill Honolulu, HI — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:40:30 GMT

Give her the WHOLE thing! It's not going to matter in the end as Obama will still have the delegates needed.

This way FL and MI get full representation and EVERYONE is happy.

Shame on Gov. Granholm of MI for being 'cute' by defying the DNC moving up the primary.

It's different in FL as the state's Gov and Legislature is solid GOP. We could expect Charlie and the good-ol-boys in Tallahassee would try to disenfranchise the voters by forcing the primary ahead of Feb 5th.
Nice try, Chuckie - but this will blow up in your suntanned face as I think Obama could still pull out FL in the General.
Either way - both states' voters got hosed by the state, not the candidates or DNC.
I empathize with the VOTERS, so go ahead and seat all the delegates...THIS TIME.
But the DNC needs to enact something so this can never happen again otherwise future states/candidates can 'game the system'.

CUB FANS FOR OBAMA

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Capt. Smash, Salt Lkae City, Utah — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:40:31 GMT

Why change the rules? DNC this a bunch of bull she agreed to the rules of the contest! Never and I mean never has any contest chnge the rules so the other team can catch up! What does this tell the children of America it's ok to cheat and change the rules as needed!

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Ciara, Paris, France — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:40:34 GMT

This is a good solution....I have a question. If the Clinton's appeal the decision, and Barack gets past the 2026 delegate next Tuesday. Can he as the nominee seat all the delegates ?

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JUST CURIOUS — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:41:24 GMT

CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS WOULD BE RIGHT KNOW IF THIS PLAN IS THE ONE THAT IS USED, FOR BOTH CANIDATES

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The - Democrat Soldier — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:41:26 GMT

This is such a mess...I am tired of all of it. Hillary Clinton....is a disgrace to our Democracy.

The sad thing is - others are playing into her delay tactics...the nerve of her trying to fix the game to her benefit and totally disregard the rules that she and other had already agreed upon.

I don't care....I will never vote for Hillary Clinton..I will vote against her in any and everything (and just for the record - it has nothing to with her being a woman- for all you women movement members) at all cost.

I thought about staying home if she stole this nomination...but I would gather my friends and any others to vote for the other guy ..just so she can lose..she don't deserve the Presidency.

Thank you and GOD Bless America

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Kleare McDermont, Peru, GA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:41:28 GMT

The Democrats really need to quit jerking around the voters of Michigan and Florida and count the votes for each of those two states. How in the world a couple of dozen of the elitist Democratic leaders can determine the fate of these voters is a mystery. Democrats need to stop disrespecting the voters.

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Mr. Money B. Ags — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:42:11 GMT

Hey, just when is that recssion supposed to get here?

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donna — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:42:52 GMT

Even if Hillary ever acts as though she is ready to support Obama as our nominee, I would never trust her, and Bill, if she is veep, until January of 2017!

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Ron Indiana — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:42:58 GMT

To Chuck Todd:

If this compromise gets legs, then how many delegated would Obama and Clinton recieve. That is in Michigan if the split is 50-50 then how many delegates does each receive. In Florida, How many delegates would go to Obama and to Clinton?

Also playing the numbers game, If Obama received 40 of the remaining pledged delegates, plus the Michigan and Florida delegates, then how many will he need to put closure to the nomination? I don't care if you post this message, but Obama nation would like to know the significance of this compromise. Thanks

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MSierra, SF — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:44:17 GMT

If that works, FINE

Michigan and Florida SHOULD BE PUNISHED for violating the DNC rules

If you don't punish them, more states will break the rules in the future

48 states followed the rules... they should count

and hats off to the voters of Iowa and NH.
they really seemed to take their choices seriously
They should remain as the first two states

Let the small states go first
If Michigan and Florida want influence next time, let them vote on Super Tuesday

It WAS the Democratic politicians in BOTH STATES who decided to break the rules...
Why not disqualify ALL their Super Delegates ?

And don't think Hillary is your friend Michigan and Florida voters....
Guess who she's looking out for ....

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Unbelievable in Alexandria — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:44:17 GMT

Everyone knows that at the end of this Obama will be the nominee. It is a very sad state of affairs when the country Democrats hand the general election over to McCain. All of you who trash talk Clinton were probably not even old enough in the 90's to understand what kind of world we lived in then. As to the Obama biased media, I blame you for the loss of the Clinton campaign. You, "mass-media" have flamed the fires for every attack on Clinton.

As to the "superdelegates" how much are you being paid to endorse Obama? How far up Obama's rear end are you? Are you so far up his rear that you do not see that he will lose against McCain? I believe the system should be changed to reflect the popular vote and do away with all this delegate, superdelegate idiocracy.

Does it matter in the long run that Obama holds the black and young vote? I think not, because they won't be the one's coming out in droves to vote, it will be the people that got shut out, those who supported Clinton, they will be the ones who decide the race.

Clinton '08 or none at all.

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democracy — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:46:31 GMT

Can't see why my idea hasn't gained any traction ... it's the perfect compromise between honoring every vote (no matter how tainted) and honoring the rules.

Seat the Florida delegates based on the election (including the Edwards delegates), but do not seat the superdelegates from Florida. Or Michigan. Rules need to have consequences or we look like a party of weenies. But the voters shouldn't be the ones who lose out, it should be the DNC members and the members of Congress from those states who should be honored to take one for the team.

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All Hillary Supporters — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:46:58 GMT

whatever...I hate Obama, and therefore, will vote Libertarian this year.

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Noel, Hot Springs — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:46:59 GMT

How do you score a baseball game, by the number of hits or the number of runs? Let Hill have the most number of hits with the popular vote but Obama has the most runs with the delegates and that's how the game is scored. Obama gave up a few hits at the end knowing he would have enough runs and started working on the world's series game.

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Nader 2008! — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:47:34 GMT

The solution to this whole mess...who cares? This is Ralph Nader's year!

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Kathy, Escondido, CA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:47:43 GMT

The Super Delegates are not stupid. They know that if Hillary gains the popular vote from some kind of compromise this changes nothing. It's not as if this is new information, it hasn't swayed them so far and everyone knows what the vote in these two states is. The Super Delegates are politicians and know that there is no fair way to figure popular vote when there is a combination of Caucus and Primary states, add into that mix that Obama was not on the ballot in MI, many people stayed home in MI and FL and any clear thinking person will not put too much credence to the meaning of "popular vote” At least Obama is willing to compromise, Hillary is not, another personality trait we don't need in a president.

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infogiant, austin, tx — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:10 GMT

That seems fair enough. Clinton and Obama were on the ballot in Florida (although, he being the unknown at that time obviously didn't help) but Michigan was obviously a farce with Hillary being the only name on the ticket. Hopefully her supporters are reasonable people and want to move on so that their candidate doesn't look like a fool and can be appointed to VP or a cabinet position...or the Supreme Court.

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yes — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:12 GMT

And this nonsense that the popular vote is more important than delegates is hooey. It apparently only matters to journalists and the Clinton campaign. Everyone else counts delegates.

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Margaret, Columbus, Ohio — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:28 GMT

Dear voter,

There is nothing "fair" about the insane Democratic Party rules as they stand. We need to return to winner takes all so that we can avoid this nonsense in 2012.

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Pete - Albany, NY — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:31 GMT

Cinton-Supporter Protests will commence in...

...3...2...1...NOW!

Senator Clinton and her campaign have the right to appeal the RBC's decision if they don't like it but if Senator Obama hits whatever the new magic number is after Tuesday don't be surprised to see the new troika of Reid, Pelosi and Gore step in and call this.

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KJ, Dallas, TX — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:37 GMT

Clinton, and her half-baked fanatical supporters are on a mission to destroy this party, and our country. This is really a sad situation.

OBAMA, 2008!

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Confused — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:42 GMT

"Hillary would be our nominee by now if Florida and Michigan waited their turn to hold their primaries, say, on super tuesday, and they were fully counted, because Hillary would've won them, hands down, giving her a clear super tuesday victory, and unstoppable momentum. She is only losing the nomination because of a quirk in party rules, which is artificially benefitting Obama...he is simply unelectable in the general, and any Obamabot who can't grasp that is simply drowning in the kool aide!
Pat Huntington NY"

Pat you gave me the laugh of the day! Tell me what "unstoppable momentum has Senator Clinton gained? Was that before or after Senator Obama won over 11 Primaries in a row? By the way, that "quirk in party rules" is a pesky thing called counting ALL the contests (not just the ones that Senator Clinton thinks are important).

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Linda S., Albuquerque, NM — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:58 GMT

Makes sense - but will SHE go along -- after all, it doesn't make her the nominee for Queen -- I mena President

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jo, high point, nc — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:49:12 GMT

so I guess any chance of the DNC finding their collective spines and telling Camp Clinton "you signed off on the rules...we're sticking to rules as you agreed to in October" is totally out the door? The dems look so weak now..bending to the the Clinton machine...they gave her the power they need to take it back.

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Bill NH — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:49:45 GMT

Yes Yes when your children misbehave you send them to thier rooms for a 15 minute time out, then you let them out after 3 minutes and watch what happens. Lets see what happens in 2010 and 2012 by that time all the primaries can be held on Jan 1 at least this will limit the circus.

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Kate in Atlanta — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:49:46 GMT

It doesn't matter waht the SD's do between now and August - she will continue to stay in saying that the SD's could always change their mind before the votes are actually cast. So, get ready folks, it's going to be a long, hot summer - followed by 4 more years of being out in the cold when the reps get the WH again.

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Free speech, America is freedom,,, AZ — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:49:55 GMT

Mr. Dodd,
Just because you are the king of MSNBC your personal rumor mill is meaningless, just like the Clinton's moral being. You have used your position at MSNBC to incite opinion! Your position is not to incite rumor, yet there is enough lies and hollow promises being rammed down the throats of the people. You do not have the right to use MSNBC to incite propaganda issues! don't ever think all of us out here are stupid!
Funny side of the coin, You can choose and pick what other postings are presented here, What gives you the right to not publish what we say, and you come out with this article? If its fairness, then all should be posted. You have offended free speech long enough!

If this is not posted , I feel those in higher places should be hearing our view!

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BJ, CA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:50:07 GMT

All older white women, blue collars workers and George Wallace voters Unite...The New Independent Candidate for President will be announced on June 4th.
Preview:
17 million voters still love:
(H)er (R)oyal (C)andidate ..guess who!!!!?

Think about it, the Damn Dem's lose with a split ticket....

Howard Dean your a jacka$$!!!!

Obama is crushed....by 2:1 margin...
President McCain...I think i'll move aboard...

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Gerri of PA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:50:51 GMT

I bet the reason Bill Clinton is so gung-ho about Hillary winning is that he doesn't want to deal with the fall-out. Can you imagine her after Obama wins the primary? Lord have mercy!!!! I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

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Confused — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:51:16 GMT

by the way, there is no chance that Senator Clinton will take ANY compromise. I know that Senator Clinton has lied (ohhh ummm I mean she made a mis-speak) in the past, but I believe her when she says that she is going all the way to the convention if she doesn't get her way on this one. She wants the vote to stand as it was during the primary, nothing else will appease her, and no she does not care that hers was the only name on the ballot in Michigan (makes her vote total look better after all)

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Chris McCoy, Los ANgeles, Ca — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:51:21 GMT

This makes the most sense. Hillary get's to claim her victory (Phyrric as it is) of geting the votes counted, but Obama doesn't get punished for following the DNC rules in Michigan. No matter how one counts Florida, there is no way Michigan can be counted as a fair election. The rules required all candidates to remove their names from the ballots "where possible" (look it up) and rewarding Hillary with more votes in Michigan for breaking those rules wouldn't be fair. A split is the only fair resolution in Mighigan. So all told, Hillary would gain 19 delegates, the magic number would be 2118, and Obama would STILL clinch it on June 4th with his pocketed supers. At current count, he needs 26 more supers (out of 202) to clinch no matter which numnber Hillary used. End of story.

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Chuck; Seattle — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:51:45 GMT

Hi Chuck,
I'm a little slow. So spell it out more--in short how much does Barack's "magic number" go up?

Especially when it is all said and done, I assume there will be 356 delegates with half votes (183 total). Half of 183: 91.5. So how far off with supers and pledged is Barack from the 91.5 with current totals (that he'd have to win in PR, SD, MT, and remaining supers)?

Thanks!

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Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:52:48 GMT

Pat, from NY-- you do realize that Hillary's team help set the DNC rules for 2008. The calander was created to her benifit and no one elses. Why do her supporters cry foul NOW?

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Seejay, Detroit MI — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:53:00 GMT

Obama supporters are running around without a clue shouting "They broke the rules - They broke the rules!!" Who broke the rules? The party leaders who can't even organize a two car funeral? Or the individual voters in Florida and Michigan. Obama supporters better watch out who they upset their antics.

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Nashville_fan — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:53:25 GMT

Chuck,

No matter how many times the popular vote argument is repeated, it is BOGUS because it disregards the caucus states. That is unacceptable.

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NoBama — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:53:45 GMT

Obama, you should've waited your turn...you just got a bit too upity

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Brian M De. — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:53:58 GMT

Pat Clintinton you are really sad you say the same thing everyday. He is so unelectable that he has all but one the nomination. He has also been able to keep money in his coffers. Instead of running in the red for the past 3 months fueled only by her own bank account and a bunch of supporters that believe that she and Bill are god like. I dont understand it, she is one of the most polarizing fiures in modern day politics. I used to think the world of her and Bill but they have managed to make all of the republicans I know look smart when talking about the Clintons and their do and say anything to win lack of ethics. That is really electable 57% negative rating, by the way Obama didn't want to be seen as bashing a woman the Republicans would not be as nice. The Clintons may even have actual skeletons in their closet. So give it a rest.

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DEANA TEXAS — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:54:13 GMT

I was raised Conservative Christian Republican...after I grew up and out of my fathers shadow...I came to realize the GOP ONLY cares about rich, white people that own property. I'm a registered Dem...and usually vote straight ticket. BUT, if Hill and Bill pull off some insane, non-sensical Bull S***...I will never give to the Dems again, and I will switch from (D.) to (I.) I would still NOT vote for McCain though...too old and out of touch. Simply a Dumbya Clone. God help us, and give Hillary the strength to put her Country over her Vanity.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:54:35 GMT

I can't wait for all this primary nonsense to get over with already so we can get on with the real job of sending "Bush Hugger" McCain into political retirement, where all Reagan foot soldiers belong.

The states of Florida and Michigan broke party rules and should be penalized. They should not be allowed to overturn the decision of the other 48 states and several territories that have voted legally and have already decided who will be the nominee, Barack Obama.

Make them all half delegates and ensure that an equitable split is made in Michigan where Obama had an unfair disadvantage with his name not being on the ballot.

Go Obama 08/12!

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Lisa T, Columbia MO — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:54:37 GMT

This sounds like a reasonable solution to me. I think BOTH sides should forget what they think is "fair" - because both sides have a different opinion of what that is. From what I've read, I think Obama's campaign will accept this. From what I've read, Clinton's will not, but I hope I am wrong. I am tired of all the fighting and the vitrol.

>>She is only losing the nomination because of a quirk in party rules, which is artificially benefitting Obama.

Pat, I appreciate your loyalty to HRC, but could you try to apply a LITTLE logic? It's not a "quirk" in party rules. Both states were warned but moved up their primaries anyway. HRC, McCauliff, etc. all agreed to the stripping of delegates until they realized they needed them. It would've helped Hillary's campaign if it was run as if she was destined to win, without a legitimate backup plan when it looked like she might have some competition after all.

The Republicans halved the delegates and I don't hear ANY of their candidates complaining that it unfairly advantaged anyone.

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Kevin-Louisville, KY — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:54:37 GMT

Don't be fooled she can fight at the convention to get those half votes counted to full votes. The Clintons are attorneys by trade and not stupid at all. She is EVIL and Party Unity be Damned. It is sad for me to see how little they care about the party and even sadder to see that her supporters don't either.

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Zoolie — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:05 GMT

Pat Huntington NY

We have enough kool aid to share some with you.

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American Politics at it's Best — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:16 GMT

Hillary goes independent...splits the ticket.
McBush wins...game over...

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Gerri of PA — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:17 GMT

Capt Smash, I agree with you. She doesn't like the rules so she wants them changed. If she was winning do you think she would be so steadfast in trying to get FL & MI seated.

Last Oct-Nov she told Tim Russert that everything would be over in February. Changing the rules because you're losing is not a quality I want in a president.

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sg, michigan — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:24 GMT

Hillary is just going to count everyone who voted for her as a hedge in swaying super delegates.

She includes the flawed Michigan and Florida votes. She also includes votes from territories (Puerto Rico, Guam, etc.) which can NOT vote in the general election. She also disregards all caucus voters.

Does this really sound like a true majority? Not to mention, this is not how the primaries work. It's all about the delegates.

Last month Hillary insisted that each super delegate vote according to their concience (and not by majority of each state). Now they're voting against her. When will she realize that it's over?

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Mike, Chicago — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:37 GMT

Whatever both parties approve, I want visual evidence of Clinton signing off, I want verbal confirmation that she agrees with the decision, and I want her to say that she is not agreeing to the decision under duress. I want no way for her campaign to come back later and move the goal post.