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Chuck, NY — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:22:25 GMT

As much as I hate to admit it, I think the odds are pretty much in favor of Hillary becoming the VP nominee for Barack. I just feel after last weekend’s RBC heated debate and everyone’s claim for unity, the VP selection became set in stone. It is not who I want Obama to select, and it doesn’t match up with a winning strategy for NC, GA, LA, MN, IA, WI, CO, NM, NV and maybe a few other western states along with the standard DEM states (I sure would like to tackle and win TX).

I suppose you cannot neglect the first fact that you have to win the election before you can take the oath and govern. Maybe the two of them will come to an agreement and rules to adhere. As an Obama supporter and often attacker of Hillary, I must learn to trust her again. I expect the same from Hillary supporters towards Obama. I suggest Senator Obama concentrate on the states I mention above, and Hillary can concentrate on MI, OH, PA and FLA and other traditional eastern DEM states. They should campaign together when they can, and try to make everything seem okay between them; even if it isn’t.

What do you think?

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Geoff in Brooklyn — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:24:49 GMT

MSNBC: Give us something..... What is the predicted margin for SD and MT? Any guidance? What are the campaigns saying? Is SD actually close, or just Obama by 5 or 7? etc.....?

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Feisty 'Sweetie' — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:26:07 GMT

I hear the train a comin... it's rollin round the bend... and I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when...

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America for Obama — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:26:18 GMT

OK.. Finally.. It's Obama vs McClain!

Obama indicated that him and Hillary Clinton will be working together in November. I wonder what he really meant about that!

Is he saying that she will be his running mate or will the her and democratic party be working with him?

However, it's Obama in 2008!!!

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:28:15 GMT

"Bush Hugger" McCain won't be getting much of an audience tonight as I'm most Democrats like me will just switch the channel and wait for that liar to finish his pander speech so that we can hear who we really want to hear, Barack Obama.

I have a feeling that Barack will have a nice rollout of superdelegates today so that he can claim victory tonight. Now that the final primaries are being run there's no more excuses for the supers to sit on the fence.

After Bill's blowup last night I think that's all there needs to be said as to having Hillary and Bill's baggage weigh down Barack for the general election. No Nightmare Ticket that will only energize the conservative lunatic fringe to support their lying candidate.

Go Obama 08/12!

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tood — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:30:29 GMT

i hope hillary isnt the vice pres. and if people start trying to presure obama to do it then, hes not, because then he will seen as a whimp who gave in.

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Jacie, NY — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:35:43 GMT

I am so Clinton fatigued...In my opinion, she has fractured the Democratic party...her camp can say anything they want...she DID fracture the party...and we are supposed to "forgive" her and welcome her back into the fold if she wants to run again...I don't think so...what I am most upset about Hillary and company is it isn't about the people...it's about Hillary and only Hillary...and maybe Bill. I have never heard so much pandering - oh wait - yes I did, when Bill ran for office....I am soooo tired of hearing about how she won the popular vote, when in fact she has not...she leaves out too many voters in the caucus states (no actual/real total)- where she lost - to get to what she wants in popular votes...sorry First Read...she is not ahead...maybe in her mind. Maybe if she stops strong arming the delegates, (as was said by a delegate when he got a call from the Clinton camp recently) we can finally put an end to this mess!!

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infogiant, austin, tx — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:36:26 GMT

I'm embarrassed for McCain. He has to beg Barrack to go to Iraq with him, campaign with him, and now needs to leach on to the Democratic primaries to get any air time. Old and boring and on the take from lobbyists is no way to go through life John.

http://infogiant.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/cnn-and-company-continue-down-foxs-path-of-fake-news/

http://infogiant.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/john-mccains-economic-adviser-sets-johns-policy-and-lobbies-for-banking-industry-simultaneously/

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The Don, Missouri — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:36:43 GMT

I think in the spirit of fairness ( or fair reflection as Ickes would very eloquently put it), we need to start including conservative numbers of the caucus states to the popular votes. Certainly you should have a pretty good idea of rough estimates of those that voted in these states. Just do the math backwards and get to the numbers. I mean, Would I be wrong to assume that in Iowa there was at least 120k that came out to vote in the DM caucus? Can you go back using the complicated formula they use for these caucuses and find amicable numbers of the approximate numbers that each contender got?

I know Chuck must know how to do this.

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Skylark — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:36:49 GMT

Hillary as vice president? Please no.
Although, if it means president of VICE she would probably know more than anybody about that. Except maybe McCain.

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Free at Last - Atlanta, GA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:37:06 GMT

Hillary will likely get the title of health care czar.

That should provide some insulation between Obama and Billary, and will keep them in the loop but not the inner circle.

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Virginia, Winchester, VA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:37:31 GMT

There is only enough drama to keep the cable news channels in viewers (sorry MSNBC).

Obama has been essentially uncatchable since March. The race ended in Wisconsin. Don't believe me? What was the margin then? What's the margin now?

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Lisa, New Britain, CT still saying YES WE CAN — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:38:56 GMT

McCain talking up Hillary is not only a wedge to place between Obama and HRC but its a fairly transparent play for her supporters (many of whom are saying they'll vote for McCain over Obama). Let's just call it what it is...old style partisan politics.

Vote for McCain, vote for Republican ideals, vote for the way things have been done for too many years.

Bad enough our standing in the World and our economy will continue to plummet, but just wait till the Courts take away many of our freedoms...

The choice is clear, come Nov., an anti-Obama vote for McCain is still a vote for more of the same. But of course, its your choice.

McCain is (I believe) one of the weakest Republican candidates we've seen in years and his candidacy comes in a year in which the Republicans have a slate of weak candidates across the nation.

We are poised for truly transcendent change, will you get on board?

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California Voter — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:39:31 GMT

So, by your own commentary, the popular vote metric is meaningless. You don't include Washington State or Maine. I think any reasonable adult would agree that there was more than a 3,000 popular vote difference for Obama in Maine and Washington State.

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Linda. Boston, MA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:39:38 GMT

"Is this the last active day of Hillary Clinton's campaign for president -- but the first day of her campaign for vice president? It could be."
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Too late for that. Her best shot at the VP position was back when she actually had some leverage - namely, dropping out of the race early. But since she has forced this to go all the way to the bitter end, Obama will just beat her straight up and she'll have no bargaining chip left to play with. If she's angling at the VP position, then once again she has planned and executed horribly.

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Nashville_fan — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:40:05 GMT

It is funny to watch the media continue to try and create drama where there isn't much. It doesn't matter if Senator Obama gets the needed delegates today, tomorrow, or next week - he is the nominee, we have known that he is the nominee for months, and no amount of hysterics by the Clinton campaign or media pundits is going to change that. But enjoy your talking points.

P.S. The whole "popular vote" thing is the latest example of the media being lap dogs for the Clintons, while the Clintons simultaneously complain about the biased media. . . what a joke! There ain't no popular vote total that includes ALL the states, therefore that's not valid measurement.

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Jacie, NY — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:40:26 GMT

Chuck of NY, no I wouldn't support a Obama-Clinton ticket...you just don't get it. He won't just get Hillary, he would get Bill as well...Hillary could undermine Obama and make him look foolish as only she can, and how would you like it if Bill keeps strolling into the oval office to complain or say whatever hits him...because he feels as if he would have that right. NO MORE CLINTONS - PLEASE!!

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Bill (Hussein) Jones — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:40:35 GMT

Keep you friends close and your enemies closer..
The NightMare Ticket may not be so scary after all..
but where will the lobbyist go?
Bill will have to shut down for about 8 years...sounds dangerous

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Sane in Ut — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:41:34 GMT

Eric, Salinas, CA

McCain won't be getting much of an audience tonight as I'm most Democrats like me will just switch the channel and wait for that liar to finish his pander speech so that we can hear who we really want to hear, Barack Obama.

If Obama, as I suspect is like you in his views he will be another Bush. No vision outside of his own and no willingness to hear others. How is this change? Keep your head in the sand and maybe you will believe that you are a majority. The truth is this primary has divided a party that only served half a nation. What remains to be seen is what percentage is left united in the general. It is foolish to believe it will all be be party kumbyah in november.

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Lisa, New Britain, CT still saying YES WE CAN — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:42:03 GMT

I believe Bill was baited by that reporter...so that she could get a story.

Keep in mind, that not only Bill Clinton but also John McCain is susceptible to that kind of reporter "attack"...they are not of the generation that they "get" 24/7 news coverage online and on cable tv and satellite radio.

I don't approve of the way this "reporter" baited him and I do wonder about her motives. But, this is not an isolated incident for Bill Clinton. He has been saying outrageous things this whole campaign. He is a loose cannon and I don't trust him in the White House. I am truly sorry to say.

You true colors are what you show when you are backed against a wall, and his colors are ugly.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:42:20 GMT

The repugnant ones will try to make the Democratic Party seem disunited but it won't work. They'll find out this November that we're a much tougher close knit bunch than they wish to believe. So much time wasted in this primary but now Obama and the Democrats need to paint the repugnant ones as the ones responsible for all of our country's ills.

No more giving the rich and greedy all the tax breaks and other breaks they don't deserve or need. Time to take back our democracy from the conservative lunatic fringe who have done everything to wreck it and steal away our rights and freedoms. Time to bring our brave soldiers home from Iraq and to treat them like the citizen soldiers they're supposed to be instead of slaves for the repugnant one's cannon fodder machine.

Go Obama 08/12!

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The Don, Missouri — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:43:35 GMT

Chuck from NY,

Good observation. I would not be terribly upset at Clinton being teh VP. It's Bill I can not satnd anymore. He is too volatile and Hillary can nnot seem to stand up to him. He will make every effort to get inthe limelight, and the Obama gov will have to continually apologize for the fool.

I still think Hillary would be best suited to be the AG for an Obamam gov. She needs something that she is solely incharge. It would bring out the best of her. And we know the damn right woudl be dealing with a double edged sword when they mess with her or her plans.

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Hero or Zero: NObama, Go McCain — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:44:31 GMT

If Obama selects Hillary as VP it will only be due to intense pressure by party insiders. That will truly be disappointing.
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pmet in LA: Oh my, you mean the Great One would give in to political pressure? I thought he was different, that he doesn't play politics. Yeah, right. And, I have some swampland in AZ to sell you if you believe that.

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Colleen, Ithaca NY — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:45:17 GMT

I think Obama will be very generous to her in his speech tonight. I pray that he does not offer her the VP slot...talk about drama!

I think an appropriate role for her would be a cabinet position like Health & Human Services or Attorney General - or maybe a Supreme Court appointment.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:45:55 GMT

Geez I get to vote again today in California, but unfortunately not for Barack Obama whom I got to vote for in February. Isn't that wonderful that in a state with a budget problem we wasted money holding our presidential primary in February while having the rest of the ballot stuff voted on today?

Thanks Arnold for wasting taxpayer money! Now stop talking about tax cuts for your rich and greedy friends and make them pay more state tax to balance the budget and keep our schools funded properly.

Go Obama 08/12!

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Ron — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:46:09 GMT

What seems to be lost in all of the discussion regarding the Democrats is that when one adds in the votes garnered by Edwards, Richardson, Biden, et al., neither Obama nor Clinton will have over 50% of the primary votes cast. While Obama is going to be the Democratic nominee, he by no means is the overwhelming choice and he must acknowledge that fact lest his arrogance drives away Clinton supporters.

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Mark Murray — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:46:42 GMT

Geoff, there haven't been many good polls in South Dakota, but the campaigns think that race will be competitive. Obama should win by a wide margin in Montana.

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Pete - Albany, NY — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:47:13 GMT

I'm still skeptical...honestly I don't see Senator Clinton as VP candidate. I don't think she wants to be VP and I more likely see her in a cabinet post...DHHS, for instance.

I think the story ultimately that will emerge was that he "offered" and she respectfully declined.

If you're still wondering about "popular vote" counts, you might want to check this out...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

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Puffin — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:47:54 GMT

As much as I hate to admit it, I think the odds are pretty much in favor of Hillary becoming the VP nominee for Barack.
Chuck, New York
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Chuck, I think Obama would compromise everything he had worked on during this campaign. Plus, Hillary could be a distraction with the media following her and her mis-speaks. Republicans would roll out a ton of garbage on Clintons. Not a good scenario. Clintons need to get off-the-stage for a few months.

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The Don, Missouri — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:48:57 GMT

Just a Wild Thought here.

Should Bill Clinton be considered for VP?

Oh how I wish Gore was a possible VP candidate!

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Chicago - South Side — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:49:18 GMT

Barack Obama should play some theme music when he is introduced at tonight's event in Minnesota. Here's a suggestion: Ludacris - Word Of Mouf, Track #10: "Move B*$@h!! Get Out The Way, Get Out The Way, B*$@h Get Out The Way!!!"

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Amy B Portland, ME — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:51:06 GMT

Er, First Read? Most people hate the media these days. I don't get why you think Bill's rant against a journalist hurts Hillary. I feel like ranting myself most days. And, I'm still boycotting ABC News...

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:53:17 GMT

Hillary on the ticket with Obama would help him with many demographic groups that she did well with, but will otherwise vote McCain if she isn't part of the ticket. I think that those Obamabots opposed to Hillary being Obama's running mate, are sore winners. If Hillary is not Obama's running mate, Obama will lose George McGovern style.

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Brian M New Castle De. — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:53:44 GMT

Take note Hillary supporters the GOP wants to use you. They hope that you will be so upset with Obama that you forget that John McCain has promised at least 4 more years of war, Knowing that number will change in 4 more years. That he has promised to appoint conservative Supreme Court Justices (meaning to overturn Roe vs. Wade). That he does not care about the mortgage forclosure situation even though those forclosures are higher amongst our military. That he is against The GI Bill, because it in his own view will recess military retention. Let me say this in all honesty in 2000 i could have seen myself vote for John McCain even though I liked Gore better. Since that 2000 election cycle. John McCain has changed that straight talk express has fell off the track. He has changed in every way to be the true representation of a Bush hugging Republican. He is not the Maverick anymore,he has shown he is not a man of his word. So to you Hillary supporters I am making this appeal to you. If your candidate does not get the nomination , Please put the Primary process behind us and come aboard for the better cause of our nation. It is time we end the war in Iraq. It is time that we mend the division that has taken place between the Two Most Loyal Voting constituates in the Democratic party base.I said it before that if Hillary had won the nomination even though I would have been unhappy ,she would still have my vote. So I am asking you to give Obama your support if he is the nominee. No more of this McCain talk I am asking as a concerned father of a teenage son, who will be of drafting age soon. Yes I trully believe that under a McCain adminstration the Draft would be reinstated, to sustain the multi front wars that he is so willing to go into. Just do me a favor think of the over 4000 dead US service persons that have died. Died for the Lies of an administration that is flawed at best and criminal at least.So in my final appeal I say vote Democrat, 2008 .Think of your family and your friends family . We need you to win. Just as you need us if the shoe is on the other foot. Time to unite, I have read the HRC website comments and supporters talk of her being written in or going independant will only make the Republicans happy. They wont have much to be happy about if we heal our party now. This is our time to take back the White House so we must Unite. To those that say 4 years of McCain wont be that bad look at how bad it's been under 7 1/2years of Bush . McCain for another 4 years we will be a third world country. We will be sneaking across the borders of Mexico and Canada to find work.

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GOBAMA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:56:10 GMT

It's going to be another long, gloriously fun, election night folks.

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jesse St.Paul Minnesota — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:57:01 GMT

This faze of the contest is winding down,and some of the hype will settle down and the new task will begin.The party will now turn to the McCain/Bush/Chaney/Rove battle.The old repub gard still running the show,the same group that has given a whole new meaning to scare tatics.They and there slim tatics will have already started,and some of there staffers will be here trying to change peoples minds and stir the pot,I feel that most of the time they are easy to spot,they seem to only have two word names like Billy Bob,John Doe,ect,they also seem to use capital letters,and never sign where there from.So be ready for the fear mongers.war lovers,those that streach the truth on the bomber and his record and the defenders of stay the coarse.

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NObama — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:57:09 GMT

While Obama is going to be the Democratic nominee, he by no means is the overwhelming choice and he must acknowledge that fact lest his arrogance drives away Clinton supporters
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absolutely agree with the above post. PMET from LA's post suggesting HRC would have Obama assassinated if she were VP is the ultimate show of ignorance and arrogance on behalf of Obama. He has NO chance of being elected without HRC's coalition. Comments like that are driving the wedge deeper.

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Matt, Idaho — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:57:43 GMT

"None of our popular vote counts include votes in the Dems Abroad primary, Guam, Virgin Islands, Maine, or Washington State."
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I could see some reasoning in arguing that outer lying territories that cannot vote for presidency do not presently have a valid label when it comes to "popular vote".

But this does not explain why the Washington Primary (or teh Nebraska and Idaho Primaries for that matter) should have their popular votes ignored. Obama netted 48,888 more votes than Clinton in these 3 state primaries combined, and your popular count STILL does not include them. I must say as an Idahoan, I am outraged that our votes are being disenfranchised as much as Michigan's and Florida's, but all 3 of these state primaries happened AFTER February 5th, hence fillowing the DNC rules.

First Read, please respond!

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Nashville_fan — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:57:57 GMT

Chuck, NY,

If Hillary and Bill Clinton wanted to be VP, they would not have behaved the way they did in March, April, and May. They have TRULY made their whiny, disrespectful, hate filled beds, and now the time has come to lie in it. And I do mean LIE.

P.S. And I am really TIRED of hearing about how Senator Obama and his supporters need to "respect" the Clintons. Well guess what folks? Respect is a two way street, and you will get some when you EARN some, not when you DEMAND some. We do not have to bow and scrape before the Clintons or anyone else. They are reaping what they have sown, and If they don't like it, then maybe they should sow something different.

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bill, okla — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:58:34 GMT

I have supported Obama from the start of the process even though I thought Joe Biden would make the best president of the democratic field. In that very good list of candidates I considered three unelectable in a general election - Kucinich, Clinton and Gravel. Can't those most rabid Clinton supporters...the ones claiming they'll betray Mrs. Clinton herself, by voting for McCain accept the fact that many in the party don't feel she's electable? I think she'll hurt the ticket, even as VP, but I'll support that ticket, as will most thinking voters.

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REMEBER MONICA & BILL'S PERJURY CONVICTION ... — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:59:54 GMT

BILL CLINTON RIDES AGAIN. HE CLEARLY IS A MENTALLY DISTURBED PERSON. HE IS BACK AT HIS WOMANIZING --- EVEN WHILE HILLARY & CHELSEA ARE IN THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT. BILL CAN'T HELP HIMSELF. BILL CLINTON ANYWHERE NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE WILL BECOME ANOTHER NATIONAL DISGARCE.

SAY NO TO HILLARY AS VP.
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Houston — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:00:47 GMT

Thus sayeth the GOP hacks: " “Obama is not wearing well as a candidate and has lost momentum since his high point in February..."

It looks like the GOP is borrowing the FirstRead guys' talking points. As someone pointed out yesterday, the main reason why Obama has not done well in recent primaries is because the order of the primaries happened to put states where he had little chance toward the end. You people should know better. It's even been observed that Obama does very well in mostly-white states like Oregon and states with large black populations. Obama doesn't have a white voter problem, he's got an Apalachia problem.

And, by the way, it's interesting how the media has studiously ignored the recent poll of Virginia that shows Obama AHEAD of McCain by 7 points. I guess that doesn't fit in with the corporate media's preferred narrative: Obama is a weak candidate with a "preacher problem" of dubious patriotism and McCain is a maverick who's a foreign policy expert (We must not mention that McCain doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia in Iraq and thinks he's getting "facts on the ground" during his Iraqi photo ops in which Bush's politicized generals show McCainwhat they want him to see.)

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chris, SC — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:01:15 GMT

No way will Hillary be Barack's running mate. She has stepped over the line so many times it's hard to count.

I think in the end people will look back at Hillary's campaign and conclude that Bill was her real downfall. And the problem is that he just can't be controlled. The man has no self control.

It's time to pivot to the GE and unite the party. We need to put aside our differences and focus on defeating McBush in Nov. Let's keep our eyes on the prize. We can do this.

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Nashville_fan — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:01:34 GMT

And another thing - I actually want to get Universal Health Care in my lifetime, so I'm not so sure about putting Hillary "my way or the highway" Clinton over healthcare AGAIN! Bad idea. Give her an assignment that does not require her to work well with others.

P.S. Save the whining about Obama supporters "not being nice so I'm voting for McCain". In the words of the great scholar Dick Cheney, a close friend of your preferred candidate John McCain . . . SO!

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Dianne Boubonnais IL — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:02:36 GMT

As a political cynic and Independent, Obama hooked me by being a different politician. He spoke to me as a unifier. The Clintons alienated me a long time ago and her campaign solidified my distaste for them. If he brings them onto his ticket, I will be extremely disillusioned. I could swallow Hillary being in his Cabinet, but VP? No.

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mad in Madtown — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:05:05 GMT

So McSame speaks from Louisisana tonight? Trying on Bobby Jindal for Veep? Jindal makes grandpa look very old and very (in a ghostly kind of way) white. I'm not sure that's the look the RNC is looking for.

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False — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:05:12 GMT

McCain teased this out a bit yesterday by talking about how Clinton had inspired a generation of young women into public service.

She hasn't inspired a single young woman I know to do anything, in fact we all hate her.

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donna — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:05:12 GMT

Darn skippy, RFK, and the Vanity Fair article are problematic for Hillary as Veep.

Let's call it like it is, shall we. Hillary as Veep was always a problem because of the Clinton's lack of moral fortitude. Now we many new scandals. PPP, (Peter Paul, and Purdim), has polarized her possiblities in politics!

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Walt, Ohio — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:05:35 GMT

I believe Hillary and Bill can serve a very useful purpose; but not on the ticket. During this general election, they must prove that they are every bit as willing to conduct a scorched earth campaign against McCain as she did against Obama.
I think it is very revealing that Bill stated he would not be involved in "this type of campaign" again. Does this mean he is unwilling to campaign for Obama fully? Does that really change if Hillary is on the ticket? Or do both of them give a half hearted effort, hoping Obama will lose so Hillary will run again in 2012.
Who better to subtly sabotage a campaign than the presumptive VP, especially if she is not interested in the position; or more interested in 2012.
Bill and Hillary must prove their loyalty by ACTIVELY and intensely campaigning for Obama starting tomorrow, June 4th. With anything less than the supreme campaign effort by them, then her motives, as well as Bill's, deserve to be and must be questioned.
If they do not aggressively campaign for Obama, and put aside their personal egos, ambitions, and bitterness, they should be forever shunned by the Democratic party. That includes her adopted NY Senate campaign.

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Scott, PA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:05:58 GMT

Ron,
why MUST he acknowledge that fact? What the heck does that do? Did he ever go around saying he was the overwhelming choice?

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Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:07:24 GMT

If Barack Obama selects HRC as his VP the Democratic Party has lost my vote.

It is a scary thought but this reminds me too much of Kennedy/Johnson and yes I do remember it.

I put NOTHING past the Clinton's.

And in addition Barack does not need two VP's
The Clinton's in my opinion are morally ant ethically corrupt.

Will History repeat itself?

After all it was Hillary who introduced the subject

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Pat, Boston, MA — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:07:55 GMT

Please someone explain to me why Barack Obama owes Hillary Clinton the vice presidency?

All I keep hearing over and over is how Barack “needs to treat” Hillary. Well, when is the Clinton campaign going to start showing some consideration towards Senator Obama? He won the nomination.

Under normal circumstances, she most likely would be a vice presidential possibility. However, this is the Clintons we’re talking about. Bill & Hillary Clinton and all their political hacks with them.

Enough already!

Give it up Senator Clinton. Show some graciousness for goodness sakes towards both Senator Obama and your party.

You lost. And losers concede.