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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx</link><description>Kicking off the second week of his “Change That Works for You” economic tour today in Flint, MI, Obama will unveil his national competitiveness agenda, which includes 1) a commitment to education from birth until college; 2) an energy policy that reduces</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)</generator><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145229</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:15:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145229</guid><dc:creator>Lisa, New Britain, CT    God bless Tim Russert</dc:creator><description>He should focus on the big picture, that's what we want him to do. &amp;nbsp;Someone else needs to big his delegatee for handling the day-to-day.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Innovation--the US always used to be known for innovation. &amp;nbsp;When did we cede that? &amp;nbsp;He should come tell our mayor and many of our state legislators that education from birth to college needs to be a priority!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fathers everywhere need to step up (if they are not already doing so)...parenting is a 24/7 job, women can't do it alone...the children need fathers and mothers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145242</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:19:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145242</guid><dc:creator>donna</dc:creator><description>Terrific article. Thanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Obama keep doing your own thing. Tell your story as an American. It is compelling.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't know how people can hate you, and Michelle so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145268</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145268</guid><dc:creator>BJ, CA</dc:creator><description>Great Speech at Apostolic Church of God...view at :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gG5nFN"&gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gG5nFN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama'08&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145286</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:32:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145286</guid><dc:creator>Becky ky</dc:creator><description>I don't get it. Does Obama think that the only dads that don't take care of thier kids are black? Does he think that the only struggling mothers are black? I am a white mother of 3 girls. I raised them on my own. The courts could not get child support because he kept moving and changing jobs. And just to let you know, he is a white man!!!!</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145298</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:35:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145298</guid><dc:creator>BJ, CA</dc:creator><description>Isn't Michelle going to be the first First Lady to be named Michelle also.... &lt;br&gt;Who cares about racial features? Not me...&lt;br&gt;We want the best person for the job..and that's &amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama'08&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S. No more Ferrero's please...</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145299</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:36:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145299</guid><dc:creator>voter</dc:creator><description>Obama gave a great speech yesturday. It was not directed to just black fathers, but to all fathers. </description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145313</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:39:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145313</guid><dc:creator>Janie Anderson, Highpoint PA</dc:creator><description>Of course Obama delegates, he doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. Best leave the tough stuff to the Washington insiders. And remember, Obama's the Change, not the people that work for him.</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145324</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:42:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145324</guid><dc:creator>mccains man</dc:creator><description>The economy is just fine, there is no housing crises, veterans don't need a good gi bill or health care o and we are winning in Iraq and bush is my bff.</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145351</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:48:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145351</guid><dc:creator>Pauline Straws</dc:creator><description>&amp;lt;&amp;lt; The economy is just fine, there is no housing crises, veterans don't need a good gi bill or health care o and we are winning in Iraq and bush is my bff. &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And what is Barack Hussein Obama going to do about any of these items? In order, it looks like, raise taxes, bailout people that signed bad contracts, make the military into yet another social program. As for the last one, President Bush has lots of friends, he doesn't need you.</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145361</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:51:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145361</guid><dc:creator>NotFooledByDistractions</dc:creator><description>I respect Mr. Obama for speaking on the issues that most politicians avoid - race, parenting, etc. &amp;nbsp;He's honest - which, believe me, is really refreshing to be spoken to truthfully as an adult - especially after the bush admin. &amp;nbsp;Now, folks like Becky, Ky who are looking for something to rant about, who are apparently a little bitter for one reason or another will claim that he's only speaking to the black community, but I didn't see it that way. &amp;nbsp;His message is all encompassing.</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145362</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:51:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145362</guid><dc:creator>Teddy Lyman, Morris, GA</dc:creator><description>If a Republican shows up preaching in a church, the Democrats and the ACLU take him/her to court. Also BHO, you shouldn't be plagiarizing Bill Cosbey's message like you do. </description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145385</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:59:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145385</guid><dc:creator>Class Warrior, D.C.</dc:creator><description>Good Father's Day speech, although he'll have to make it clear that fathers of al races and cultures are eitherlax or missing also. &amp;nbsp;It looks like Obama has good managerial skills, which is encouraging; his campaign is tight and ready to rol over Mcbush.</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145400</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:03:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145400</guid><dc:creator>NObama4me--Dems4Mccain</dc:creator><description>I agree with Teddy Lyman above &amp;nbsp;Why is it ok and appropriate for Obama to campaign from the pulpit? When is the IRS going to put a stop to these churches giving Obama a Sunday morning campaign stop? I will say it must have been shocking for Obama's children not to her swearing, racial comments and hate in the Apostolic Church. &amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145441</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:15:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145441</guid><dc:creator>Liz, NY</dc:creator><description>Sen Obama isn't 'plagiarizing Bill Cosby (learn to spell Teddy) speech. &amp;nbsp;I have heard the Senator speak on this subject before. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And your comment about Republicans speaking in church and the ACLU taking them to court is just plain ridiculous. &amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be nice if you got your facts straight before you comment on them. &amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama '08</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145446</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:16:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145446</guid><dc:creator>Lisa, New Britain, CT    God bless Tim Russert</dc:creator><description>I don't get why you, Becky, think that Obama was only speaking about black fathers. &amp;nbsp;Yes, his father who abandoned him was black and so, in speaking from his own experience, he was highlighting that personal fact. &amp;nbsp;But fathers not being around is a universal problem. &amp;nbsp;Clearly Obama was not just speaking to black men, why would you even think that?</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145524</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:34:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145524</guid><dc:creator>Fee, Philadelphia</dc:creator><description>Becky ky,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am sure that Obama knows the African American race isn't the only group of people who suffer from absent fathers. &amp;nbsp;He also knows that black mothers aren't the only ones who struggle since it was his white mother who struggled to raise him after his father left. &amp;nbsp;Keep in mind that his audience inside the church was black and that black families suffer a lot from single-parent households. &amp;nbsp;This isn't something to be proud of.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will also add that I am sorry you and your children have to struggle because their father is running from his responsibilities. &amp;nbsp;This situation isn't color blind. &amp;nbsp;I am certain that Senator Obama can sympathize with your situation. But please don't take it personal or as a slight because he didn't mention every race that is affected by this. &amp;nbsp;He is a very inclusive person.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It's funny because he catches heat from the Black Community when he doesn't speak out on every issue or attend every function we have. &amp;nbsp;At times he isn't 'black' enough. &amp;nbsp;Then he comes under fire when he is too attentive to the black community and not universal enough. &amp;nbsp;Then he gets in trouble from the Hispanic Community for not courting them enough or offering solutions for that community.....and on and on to Jewish American and Arab Americans. &amp;nbsp;I don't envy his task to President of all Americans, but I know he is up to the task!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vote for Obama in November.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kind regards,</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145542</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:38:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145542</guid><dc:creator>toli</dc:creator><description>i think that since obama has experience as a community organizer then he should be fine. &amp;nbsp;Its mccain who needs to start being a manager instead of letting his staff make all the bad decisions for him aka hagee&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We finally know whos behind the smears about obama&lt;br&gt;Candidates on equal pay.&lt;br&gt;McCain’s Clayton Williams problems&lt;br&gt;Bring It On GOP&lt;br&gt;Candidates on Social security&lt;br&gt;Its All About Taxes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://sensico.wordpress.com/"&gt;http://sensico.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145613</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:56:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145613</guid><dc:creator>Democrat</dc:creator><description>Becky, KY&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I feel for your situation, but read the article. &amp;nbsp;Senator Obama said: &amp;quot;even as we face difficult circumstances, there are still certain lessons we must strive to live and learn as fathers --- whether we are black or white; rich or poor; from the South Side or the wealthiest suburb.’” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Obama chose to address the black community on this issue because single parenting is an epidemic among the African American community. &amp;nbsp;Look at this article:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.kidscount.org/datacenter/compare_results.jsp?i=722"&gt;http://www.kidscount.org/datacenter/compare_results.jsp?i=722&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;65% of African American children are growing up in single-parent households! &amp;nbsp;By contrast, an alarming but still much smaller number, is posted in white households at 23%.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Obama has consistently shown that the African American community must help itself if it is to succeed. &amp;nbsp;In other words, he is letting them know that it is not the government's responsibility to fix what is wrong. &amp;nbsp;That must start at home.</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145865</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:58:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145865</guid><dc:creator>S.B. Stein E.B. NJ</dc:creator><description>There are a number of things that can be done to help improve jobs in the country. &amp;nbsp;Obama has hit the nail on the head with many of the suggestions. &amp;nbsp;The Father's day speech and the idea that there be education to high school is good. &amp;nbsp;We need the idea of someone being smart to perminate all segments of the country. &amp;nbsp;There are too many songs and people who show that being uneducated and crude are the ways to go. &amp;nbsp;Parents should be smart to show the need for education goes on all the time. &amp;nbsp; </description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1145929</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:25:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1145929</guid><dc:creator>nuanced</dc:creator><description>For some reason Becky,Ky reminds me of Patty,SD,CA.&lt;br&gt;Any relation?</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1146050</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:06:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1146050</guid><dc:creator>Michael, Dallas, Texas</dc:creator><description>Who does he think he is? &amp;nbsp;The Democratic version of Geoge W. Bush? W cvan get away with that, you can't! &amp;nbsp;You'll be viewed as a lazy black man who wants something but doesn't want to work for it and if he thinks that is what the American people want, then he is wrong! &amp;nbsp;I want a hands on president. &amp;nbsp;Hillary would have been a hands on President. &amp;nbsp;Just because you were &amp;quot;given&amp;quot; the nomination, don't expect to be given the presidency! &amp;nbsp;You've got to earn my vote. &amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1146178</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:42:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1146178</guid><dc:creator>jca, tampa, FL</dc:creator><description>If a white person said they would be brand a racist. Bill Cosby nearly had his own race revoked because he said it. Then we can &amp;quot;reward&amp;quot; those for doing the right thing-more paid sick leave, job training, etc-yes all on my dime! Thank you IL for giving the US this left wing kook! </description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1146206</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:55:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1146206</guid><dc:creator>nobama from MI</dc:creator><description>weesh------another black church----guess Obama will run his presidency from a church too?He just can't quit them.</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1146285</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:20:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1146285</guid><dc:creator>Joyce Hancock, Rockledge, FL</dc:creator><description>Becky, in KY, I'm a 54 yr-old african-american SINGLE female parent; I can absolutely empathize with what you are going through. &amp;nbsp;I'm going to attempt to elaborate on your perception of Sen. Obamas' comments. &amp;nbsp;Relative to the parental struggles, Sen. Obama didn't mean to leave out any particular group of people and he always included by indicating, &amp;quot;ALL&amp;quot;, but, it was specifically important to address the problem in the black community, because, percentage wise, the numbers of &amp;quot;missing&amp;quot; fathers &amp;amp; single-moms, is so much greater in the black community and that is a fact. &amp;nbsp;Believe, he gets it! &amp;nbsp;He gets the hardships that so many of us (whites &amp;amp; blacks) are having to deal with. Remember, Baracks' mom was caucasian, so, he &amp;quot;gets it&amp;quot;, o.k. She had to depend on food stamps to feed him and luckily, she had the help of her parents to raise &amp;amp; nurture her children; my grandparents were in just as much a need as my mom was, so, they were of no help to my mom. I can speak from experience; although, my dad was in our home, he was a terrible husband &amp;amp; father.; my dad only worked to make just enough money to feed his alcoholic addiction. It's even worse when you have to contend with physical abuse and a mom having to work 2 &amp;amp; 3 jobs just to try &amp;amp; make ends meet to feed, clothe &amp;amp; house 5-children, alone! So, please, with all due respect, don't take it personal about his addressing the black community specifically. &amp;nbsp;You must think about it this way; under nomal economic conditions, black men have more difficulty finding employment and even if they do, they are probably not being paid the same as their white co-worker. &amp;nbsp;Sadly, the economic hardship takes a more desperate toll on the lower &amp;amp; african-american communities. This is all about &amp;quot;cause &amp;amp; effect&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;A great deal of the every day crime is more affecting the african-american communities than any other; why, because, being black automatically defines you as a 2nd-class citizen; black success stories remain far &amp;amp; between. &amp;nbsp;We still struggle with having the same educational background, but still having to work twice as hard to be lucky enough to land the ideal job. &amp;nbsp;Being white still allows you the opportunity to feel hopeful, but, with a lot of black men &amp;amp; women, we see NO hope and unfortunately, we turn to crime (drugs, burglary, assult, etc.) in order to try &amp;amp; make ends meet. It's a complex matter that will take extremely complex solutions; how do we reach so many lost souls. &amp;nbsp;So, like he said in his fathers day speech, we must learn to be more EMPATHETIC. &amp;nbsp;Becky, you are my white-sister; we are in this struggle together; I will pray for you as well as for myself. &amp;nbsp;BARACK OBAMA '08/'12!</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1146292</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:23:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1146292</guid><dc:creator>Joyce Hancock</dc:creator><description>Janie Anderson, &amp;nbsp;of Highpoint,PA, old Washington insiders is the reason we're in economic trouble now and I don't know about anyone else, but, I've never been more worried. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;VOTE OBAMA '08</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1146316</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:34:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1146316</guid><dc:creator>J. Richter</dc:creator><description>George Bush spoe at the Bob Jones university during his campaign as well. Candidates have usually addressed congregations before. Bill Clinton addressed the Ebenezer bpatist church which was MLK's church.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama's propsoed tax cut will cut taxes for 97% of Americans or more people than McCain - the republican nominee, Pauline. The statements by Fiorina and McCain has been fact checked by non-partisan organizations and has been debunked. Stop repeating the repubican talking points. Besides you can actually find it out yourself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25133125/"&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25133125/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Obama: The delegator</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1145205.aspx#1146409</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:00:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:1146409</guid><dc:creator>Judith Hall Arlington Texas</dc:creator><description>I think it was great! He is not talking about all black farthers but if you are black you know he is telling the truth so why be upset he is trying to help not hurt. I'm a black woman and a single mom I do ok but I was raised by both parents. My dad was the best and he still is he is a good man, so of course that doesnt apply to all. We got upset with Bill Cosby because his approach was all wrong. lol he was just down right insulting. lol Go Obama he has my vote!</description></item></channel></rss>