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Obama/McCain: 'Psychological' benefit?

David — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:23:00 GMT

A benefit for the market. Increase of exploration would help slow the rate at which oil prices increase.

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You Have to Talk Slowly to a Lib — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:28:11 GMT

McCain speaks the truth. And psychological benefits are what drive the markets (to you liberals, those the big bad businesses you're always putting down). Any opening of US reserves to the market, whether it's in ten months or ten years, would suppress the market prices today (to you liberals again, that means the prices would go down, ie., lower).

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BJ, CA — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:29:38 GMT

What degree of pysch do the Republicans have...?
Worse economy in decades, highest prices, least opportunity, lost jobs...war booms don't last..
GOP= McWar+McDeath+McNuts+McOil+McDepression+ well you get the point...
If more damage for the American way is what you want vote independent before voting Republican...but if you want real change vote
Obama'08
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147

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Ron Indiana — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:33:06 GMT

Drilling off shore is a bad idea. Huffington Post reports that they cannot find an economist who supports the idea. McOld basically said the idea was "psychological". One of the basics here is that for the past 20 years there have been NO new refineries built. Even if you had more supplies, there is a bottle-neck at the refinery level.

Obama is right (again) close the Enron Loophole so speculators can not increase the futures in oil.

As far as McCain's notion of a 300 million prize for a new battary. That is no plan, a fairy tale or wishful thinking. He hasn't a clue what to do. Obama is tied to ethonal. OK..Well that is not a great idea either. We sell corn to make fuel, then we have no corn to feed cattle, chickens or ourselves. But it is a slightly better idea than find a new fuel battery. Who knows how long that would take.

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RENEA<PLYMOUTH<MI — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:34:37 GMT

We pay the same price for domestic oil as we pay for imported oil.So how will domestic drilling bring down the price?

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Democrat — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:35:15 GMT

Boy, McCain has the Republican juggernaut going on these boards.

In a nutshell: drilling bad.

Why?

-It continues our need for oil.
-It does not end or diminish our dependance on foreign oil.
-It will take about 12 years before the effect is realized and the oil producers know this. It will have no short-term benefit (sorry previous posters but it won't.)
-It will add only a small amount of oil in relation to what we currently use.
-World consumption will continue to increase exponentially, especially in China and India, meaning that prices will rise exponentially too...regardless of how much we pump.
-Our nation's oil reserves are leased to private entities meaning that the oil we pump may not necessarily end up in our country and will fluctuate in price as the market allows.

Better ideas: regulate the market, stop drilling and invest heavily in alternative energy sources such as wind, hydroelectric, solar and where needed (but limited) nuclear as well as an energy infrastructure for the energy carrier hydrogen.

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dusual tx — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:35:19 GMT

Only navy man John McCain is offering money for a battery to help the country that needs all the oil we can get but the muslins want to destroy Americans. The liberal communistic Jimmy Obama and his wife are never going to live in Americas white house and nver will if all moral conservative people vote for a hero John McCain not a zero and a vote for Barr is not a conservatives best choice.

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Ron Doe, SWas — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:35:20 GMT

if you truly believe that, then you should ask your oil companies to drill THERE (the leased land that they choose not to explore), drill NOW, and let us PAY LESS, and stop trying to simply lay claim to coastland for a feel-good photo-op.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:38:25 GMT

Only fools would believe that starting offshore drilling would have any effect on oil and gas prices. The psychological effects are only to fool dimwits into voting for "Pander Boy" McCain. I guess we have to talk slower and use smaller words to make sure the repugnant ones understand how useless offshore drilling is in driving down oil and gas prices. The Saudis have raised production over the past month and that hasn't done anything to lower the high price of oil.

The fastest way to lower oil and gas prices is to kill the "Enron Energy" loophole that allows unscrupulous speculators to jerk the price upwards so they can make a fast illicit buck by ripping the rest of us off. That and putting in a windfall profits tax to tax the oil companies huge profits fairly and then pass along a tax savings to middle America.

Go Obama 08/12!

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Tim, Reading, PA — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:38:26 GMT

The only way to get gas prices to come down is to open up the stratigic oil reserve... There is no short term solution here. Anything we do today is not going to affect the market for at least 3 or 4 years. Let's develop alternative energies so that 4 years from now we're not facing $6/gallon gas when the world's demand grows too great...

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thats a fact jack — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:40:30 GMT

the saudis said they would pump 200,000 more barrels a day for the rest of the year and yes you guessed it the price of oil went up, so much for physcological improvement. the solution is not more oil, it is new and better technology aka battery driven cars etc. all of which are seriously advocated by dems but the repthugnutz only want more OIL.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:43:26 GMT

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Steven, NY — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:43:59 GMT

Anyone who knows anything about the current Oil situation is that the problem isn't the amount of Oil needed but the refining capabilities. We can drill till we reach a neverending supply of Oil but have no way to refine into a usuable fuel source. Shouldn't be looking to progress ourselves away from such an archaic energy source to something more 21st century. It will be difficult but we can no longer be spoiled Americans.

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John, MI — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:44:00 GMT

You are right, drilling off shore tomorrow isn't going to lower gas prices tomorrow, but it will also make a strong point that the US is on its way to becoming energy independent. I think Nuclear, Wind, Solar all should be invested in heavily, but those take just as much time as drilling does. We should be doing both, and everything we can to become energy independent. I don't have a problem to continue to support oil as our main energy source, but lets atleast use American based oil and not pay the middle east enemies for it.

So drill, build nuclear, more refineries, windmills, and solar panels. Become energy independent and prices may not go down, but atleast they won't keep going up exponentially.

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ujw, ny — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:46:34 GMT

Drill...drill...drill...

Bomb...bomb...bomb...

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Michelle Zee — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:48:17 GMT

DRILL, DRILL, DRILL...it is not going to solve anything now, what can happen in the short term.

All I know is a barrel was $30 or so before republican rule and due to this dumb WAR it is $130 a barrel.

All America gets from republicans are name calling such as "liberals". What a "typical" republican response to a crisis.

Since the repukes are the smartest party we have (GAG ME WITH A SPOON), MAYBE THEY CAN THINK OR DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE/ INFORMATIVE TO FIX THEIR ERRORS.

Oh wait, here we go again, those liberals...blah, blah, blah. These liberals and the rest of America is going to take our damn country back this fall!

The repuke party is going down in flames!

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Paula Brown, Union City, CA — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:50:42 GMT

[[Huffington Post reports that they cannot find an economist who supports the idea]]

Maybe if Arianna looked somewhere else then in her 82 room house she'd have better luck finding one.

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Need to Pay Attention — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:53:38 GMT

the saudis said they would pump 200,000 more barrels a day for the rest of the year and yes you guessed it the price of oil went up, so much for physcological improvement.

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Niger went off line the same day by a million barrels a day because terrorists attacked their oil supply lines. Net loss was -800000 barrels a day. Let me guess, you don't watch world events very closely.

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toli — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:56:53 GMT

im surprised the main stream media besides MSNBC haven't reported on this. They are completely giving mccain a free ride during this election

http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/dwc-checklist-4-change-part-5-2/

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Republican — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:57:15 GMT

Democrat - can we assume we can turn off your, and your ilks, fuel first? It does seem like you're stepping up to plate and taking one for the team. When we start running out of fuel, you can be the first on your block to shut out his/her lights, heat, refrigerator, stove, tv, etc.

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:58:07 GMT

Going for short-term "psychological benefit" to the public is not only pandering, it's manipulative propaganda, proposed to pacify a public angry about getting gouged by Big Oil.

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IndependentGA — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:58:29 GMT

Psychological Benefit? isn't that a synonym for pandering? Great going McCain. Everytime you talk you show ignorance. Keep talking. Your own words will cost you this election.

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IndependentGA — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:58:30 GMT

Psychological Benefit? isn't that a synonym for pandering? Great going McCain. Everytime you talk you show ignorance. Keep talking. Your own words will cost you this election.

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Zendeka Zyigan — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:00:58 GMT

Michelle Zee - DRILL, DRILL, DRILL...it is not going to solve anything now, what can happen in the short term.

Other then saying no to everything, what problem has a liberal solved in the last 20 years? Magic 8-Ball says "None".

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Democrat — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:07:21 GMT

All useful ideas....
100 years down the road.....

jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:43 AM)

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Regulating the speculators would reign in prices in a month or less. There is no rational explanation for the price of oil being at the level it is at and most market analysts can find no reason except for an oil bubble similar to the housing bubble. Pure speculation for the pursuit of profit.

Honda has already introduced a hydrogen fuel-cell car into Southern California that gets the cost equivalent of 74 miles to the gallon. Their conversion process for the hydrogen currently uses natural gas (an oil by-product that is in abundance and cheaper than the oil itself) but can also be converted from solar, wind, coal, etc. Honda put out feelers to see if there was interest in serious purchasers of hydrogen stations across the US (at a high price) and received over 5000 interested and qualified responses in less than 24 hours. The stations could be built in a year's time. (source Time Magazine, Honda).

Wind turbines already provide energy across the world. The only problem is that Republicans don't want to see them from their back yard.

Hydroelectric powers much of the northwest and can be expanded over the next 20 years.

Efficient flexible solar panels are reportedly being or about to be mass-produced at a cost less than that of coal per watt. One or two could power your home. (Source Time Magazine)

The technology is not 100 years away, it is already here and gets more cost effective every day. Time to retire oil and the terrorist dollars it produces.

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Lou R — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:08:14 GMT

The gimmick candidate McCain: 1st, the 18.5 cent tax holiday; 2nd, offshore drilling when existing leases and drilling rights exist on millions of acres; 3rd, a mega battery which would take years to move from development to the marketplace. The high cost of gasoline is due to speculator's gone wild (Enron effect) and the Federal debt which the President of OPEC says affects the barrel cost by $4 to every point move of the dollar against the Euro. The Bush economic model has failed the nation and McCain wants to be a carbon copy as his lobbyist laden campaign echo Karl Rove/Bush/Cheney.

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democrat — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:09:45 GMT

Hey Republican you know what I think the democrat would be the first to consider his fellow citizen. He realizes that what happens to the least in our society has an effect up the ladder. Almost every real benefit enjoyed by Americans today have been through democratic initiatives.

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Rick, NC — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:16:45 GMT

Stop it, you are killing me...the fact of the matter is that the day before shrub invaded Iraq oil was 29 bucks a barrel and there was plenty of it...now Iraq produces 2 million barrels less today with haliburtons help than it did prewar and oil is 137 a barrel...hmmmmm

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Michelle Zee — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:25:03 GMT

Zendeka Zyigan (Sent Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:00 AM)

Typical Republican response....those "liberals" yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah...

What America deserves is a apology from the masses of republicans who stood by and continues to deny it is their fault we are in this mess.

Webster 101, find another word, by liberal, do you mean independent thinkers who will not tolerate being told we don't have a choice in feeling or thinking or doing what we want with our bodies or is it because liberals feel our government should be held accountable when they (the government) take our tax payers dollars to look for WMD's and 7.5 years later losing 4000 plus Service Members.

I think the repukes need to put their big panties/ boxers on and own up to the fact that they have royally screwed this country!

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Davy Eugene, OR — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:25:56 GMT

Better ideas: regulate the market, stop drilling and invest heavily in alternative energy sources such as wind, hydroelectric, solar and where needed (but limited) nuclear as well as an energy infrastructure for the energy carrier hydrogen.

Democrat (Sent Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:35 AM)

All useful ideas....
100 years down the road.....

Until then, how is the liberal supposed to get from point A to Point B without paying $5.00 a gallon for gasoline????

Unless something can be invented and up and running by the weekend, you liberals better just stay out of our way and let the drilling begin.

Jerry, Corpus Christie

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In response to Jerry from Corpus Christi paraphrasing Democrat: We don't have 100 years. As uncomfortable as it may be, the world is about to change in ways you can't imagine and I can't begin to list here. Modern civilization will be forced to make changes and you will have to make significant changes in your lifestyle.

One thing I actually agree with you on is that sooner or later we will need to extract those resources. But not for the purposes of continuing life as you know it. We will need those resources to survive and invest in renewable energy sources NOW. 100 years will be too late. And trust me, I have no interest in using my last breath to say 'I told you this would happen'.

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Is the Lemon Law attached? — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:25:56 GMT

dusual tx (Sent Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:35 AM), only Navy Man Mc-Dummy was standing beside a battery car that cost over 100,000 dollars. Wow, which average American will be able to afford that. Oh, that's right Cheeny, Bush, Cindy, and the rest of the rich.

Has anybody figured out how does the citizens that are be hurt by the oil crunch the most will be able to afford a new car? Will McBounty give each household a new car? Remember Oprah tried that and some of the audiance could not even afford to pay the tax and registration of half of them. Nice trade for your vote that you wont get back.

YOU WANT BE SAVED BY THE LEMON LAW.

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annie get your gun and bible — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:35:36 GMT

Going for short-term "psychological benefit" to the public is not only pandering, it's manipulative propaganda
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Class Warrior: is that sort of like preaching a message of hope and change but not having any plans to back it up with? Yep, I think BO's msg would probably qualify as pandering and hoping for the "psychological benefit". Lat Fri, BO said repubs were going to tell Dems to be afraid of him, that they'd bring up race and his wife. Was that pandering and preaching fear? He was telling people to be afraid. Pandering? Racism? You betcha!

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Alan, NJ — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:36:23 GMT

Can someone tell why the (democratic) congress is not in full-day sessions writing legislation that will close the Enron loophole? If this will reduces prices by 20%-50% overnight (or in month) as has been stated on this board. Is this not the highest priority of BO/JMc. Shouldn't they both be back at their day jobs instead of running round the country until this amazing legislation is passed? Or maybe some candidates actually want high gas prices?

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Teddy K against alternative energy...in his backyard — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:39:00 GMT

Wind turbines already provide energy across the world. The only problem is that Republicans don't want to see them from their back yard.
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Nor does Teddy Kennedy want them in HIS sailing bay. Read up on it. He's blocked it there. Of course, you should also read up on how they dumped oil out of his yacht into the same bay he's protectint because of its purity. What a joke!

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GP Chicago — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:40:30 GMT

I love this topic, is there some magic gas station that conservatives think liberals fill up at that is less than the going rate? You think liberals like $5 dollar gas prices?? Everyone in america is being affected by this...

We need to do things "right" not by "any means necessary"...Fossil fuels are finite, none of these things are going to "buy us time" or "ease short term prices". There is a reason why the oil industry is not building more refineries (which would put more supply out there i might add) and that is because they know that oil is on it's way out. In 30 years refineries will be shut down and scrapped.

This is a free market economy...which is forcing auto makers to make more efficient cars that run on electricity and other fuel types (which is long overdue i might add).

You know what I did, I got a smaller more fuel effiecient car when my other one was about to drop...I started clipping coupons for food and not eating expensive gimmicky stuff, and i got a part time job that I enjoy in addition to my full-time job. Does this take time out of my life? Yeah it does...but this is what it's going to take.

We are americans, and we need to pay our debts. We need to eliminate wasteful spending in washington, we need to end the war in IRAQ (which will help bring down the demand for oil), and we need to start leading by example. It's hard to preach about civil liberties to other countries when we lose our own everyday.

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Vote for Change — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:30 GMT

Why not drill more at those area in the Mexico Gulf that is already available for drill? Why do we have to extend to the west Coast and Florida? The oil companies are greedy and they just want to take advantage of the current sittuation to press for lifting ban. This is only an insurance policy for those oil companies and Bush and McCain supports it because they are the oil buddies.

People who only care about their pocket, and want relief on the gas price without regards to the climate crisis are irresponsible. The US consume about 25% of the world oil. This is an addiction that causes cancer to the earth. Those People don't care about future, only mind the present convenient. Then when disaster came, such as Katrina, they are crying and ask for help, and get pitty if help dont come fast enoungh.

Only people who are ignorant dont care about Global WArming. Educated, well informed people like scientists are desperate to save our earth. Saidly,there are so few of them to make a difference.

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Bruce , NV — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:50:03 GMT

Michelle Zee, you get the prize for faux-cleverest leftie of the post! Bitching about the GOP using "labels", then calling the GOP "repukes".

You Obamaniacs actually don't even see your hypocrisy and lack of consistency, do you? Like the liberal coastal elites that elected Dukakis, Gore and Kerry, you think you're just so much smarter and so much better than us conservatives, that things like "principles" and "beliefs" aren't necessary. Hell, you'll just tell us what we should do. What a freakin' joke you "hape and changers" are.

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Democrat — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:22 GMT

A note to Republican,

In our house:
-Lights are turned off when we are not in the room.
-The entire house is lighted with CFLs
-We watch very little, if any television.
-We have no video games.
-We set the AC to 87 degrees in the summer and the heat to 64 degrees in the winter. If the humidity is tolerable, we don't turn on the AC at all.
-We own one car which we drive about 40-50 miles per week. We rarely run the AC and try not to let the tachometer go above 2000 RPM to save gas.
-I ride my bicycle to work at least three days per week (10 mile round-trip.)
-We unplug appliances we are not using.

I could go on, but it would take a while. In other words, it would likely hurt you much more than me if your prediction were to come true. Then again, we are getting ready for it. Are you doing your part?

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:27 GMT

In 2000 30% of our oil was traded through the commodities markets. Now it's over 70%. Almost half the price of a barrel of oil is currently thought to be accountable to commodities speculation. How does this serve the society as a whole? All it does is line the pockets of those who already have vast sums of money with cash that came from the middle and lower classes. As for the concept that more drilling will bring down prices, drilling permits have doubled in the last 5 years but prices have increased. There are a lot more surprises here http://courtney.house.gov/UploadedFiles/Natural%20Resources%20energy%20report.pdf . Psychological benefit of exploration? No one in the industry wants that. If they did they would be publicizing the Bakken reserves in North Dakota and Montana that potentially hold as much oil as Saudi Arabia http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/04/10/ndoil/ . The Bakken discovery is real, not theoretical, a friend of mine attended an oil industry trade show in Fargo.

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SD, Chicago — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:37 GMT

McFossil is such a moron. If he was truly concerned about lowering gas prices, maybe he would have the big oil companies (who have been in GWB pocket since before he was elected) answer the question of why are they not drilling on the millions and millions of existing acres that they already own that are supposed to be oil rich???
Of course it psychological...maybe the Rethugs will be able to find new jobs for all of the people that lose theirs when tourism dries up in Florida and Cali...but probably not...
McBush will say anything and do absolutely anything to get elected..much like King George and Tricky Dick...

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Rebra Stevens — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:57:24 GMT

The "real" reason we are experiencing this energy "crisis" goes back to Ronald Reagan. Jimmmy Carter had tried to introduce alternative sources of energy back in 1970. He had solar panels installed in the white house. Reagan, ordered all of that to be removed. He was an oil man as all the Republican leadership for the last 30 years have been. Bill Clinton had his turn, but he did nothing. John Mcain's flip flop on this issue, reinforces, the immature, selfish and lack of vision, that so permeates the members within his party. They can only relate to the bottom line right now; as if all the money they make right now at the expense of the future is all that matters. As if you can take all that money with you when you inevitably die. All that money that has been made because of lack of visionary policy, and look at where we are now. Think about where we might be had we had the vision started over 30 years ago about alternate sources of energy? No ridiculous gas prices? cleaner air? more control of climate change? We have to be responsible. You can't just make money, with no thoughts of future consequences. I am all for free enterprise, but the means are not always justified by the end.

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lily — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:06:23 GMT

You've heard Obama say it would take 10 years to get oil out of new offshore drilling so why bother. (Note, though, some oil experts say it could be as soon as one year.) Well, if we had started 10 yrs ago, what might our position be today? I agree we must reduce our oil usage; however, until we can convert to other sources we still have vehicles that take gasoline. And, even if those new technologies were available today, not everybody can run out and buy a new car (well, maybe those "little guys" attending Obama's $30,000/plate fundraiser could.) We HAVE TO have some oil. Obama criticized McCain and said it would be 2030 before new pumping would reduce prices. But, then, two sentences later, Obama said he'd demand new fuel efficiency standards by auto industry by 2028. Wow, a new standard two years sooner. Whoopppeee, Obama saves the day...NOT! How is he going to do it? We have to have oil. WE can't afford increasing prices. He's against coal and nuclear. He won't build new refineries. So, what does he propose and by when and how much/will it impact price? You see, Obambi's really good about criticizing others positions, but he never seems to have a position or one that's any better. For all the talk about change, what NEW thing has he proposed for the economy? Everything he mentions are things that have already been done.

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lauren, Boulder, CO — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:07:18 GMT

The oil companies and powers that be are totally manipulating the american public. They have us right where they want us. They are squeezing the little guy so that they can make huge profts and take every advantage possible. We should not support any more drilling. These companies already have plenty of drilling acres and we cannot afford the risks even though it seems it would help. We must not allow ourselves to be manipulates. We need alternatives that do not include drilling. That just plays into the forced hand that the oil companies are playing. Unfortunately ethical, sound leadership is the most precious and rare commodity in america today. You won't find many honest, true leaders that care about the average american and this could present the implosion of our democracy.