Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Don Judson — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:25:26 GMT

Joe Scarborough & his repub panel on Race to the White House today are IDIOTS! Rachel was right - Senator Obama has ALWAYS said his GOAL is all troops out in 16 months depending on the situation. I'll not watch your program any more if you have that moron as host!!!!!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

RED STATE — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:25:54 GMT

**** BREAKING NEWS ****

President Bush is secretly a spy for the Russian government. Created by a program known as "Red State,” the current president has been under communist control since the early 80's. Red State has worked out to be the single largest espionage effort by a former communist country that has actually been successful.

The plan, destroy the image of the United States, divide its people, kill off its image as a strong military presence, cripple it's economy and the will of American patriotism.

Fact: President Bush has had a long lasting friendship since he took office with a former KGB agent; the gentleman in question, Vladimir Putin, was the original architect of "Red State." Mr. Putin, also the former president of the Soviet Union, has been working behind the scenes with other communist governments to overthrow the USA when they looked their weakest. The other countries include, China, Venezuela, and North Korea. Unfortunately, North Korea has folded to pressure and the result is the rise of an unlikely Russian ally, Iran.

Don't be fooled fellow Americans we cannot let the continued communist influence in our government be the death of our great Nation.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Nicholas: Minnesota — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:30:38 GMT

Obama is correct. I have always understood that he would withdraw the troops regarding the safety of the troops. There is a tremendous difference yet between Obama and McCain. Obama will remove the troops from Iraq and strengthen our military in Afghanistan. McCain sees Iraq as the central front to the War on Terror, and has NO realistic plan to draw down troops. How many surges must a man propose, before they call him a man ...?

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Jason, Roselle IL — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:37:51 GMT

I love how John McCain and the republican talkers are trying to say Obama "flip-flopped" on his withdrawal plan. Just SAYING it is a Flip-Flop doesn't make it one. He has been SOLID on Iraqi withdrawal plan and has never wavered. The facts prove it out.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

American Voter — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:39:57 GMT

SHAME ON YOU, MSNBC!! I am so sickened watching your evening shows like Race for the White House and Hardball tonight. Those shows were run by Republicans tonight and they manipulated to portray Barack as a flip flopper on this issue. HE IS NOT changing his position. I am exhausted and disgusted with your degree of professionalism. Rachel Maddow was correct. This is exactly the same stance he has always taken. He is getting out of Iraq.

When will the media STOP trying to pick our president by manipulating through the media what and how the American people hear? Shame on you.

This is the same position Barack has always had about Iraq. So why all the nuanced headlines from you? I will tell you why - manipulation.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Andrea New York — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:40:24 GMT

Once again, the media is totally twisting what Obama is saying - he has always maintained thiat his goal is to bring the troops home by 2013 but that he would consider the conditions on the ground. And OMG! Rachel Maddow was the lone liberal on Hardball, with Joe Scarborough hosting, and as she was trying to argue that Obama's stance on the Iraq issue has not changed, Scarborough just accused her of replicating Hillary Clinton's "cackle" - Rachel did not look amused. He is such a dog.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

kim w, virginia beach, va — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:52:41 GMT

Well..the experts have said that this is his election to lose and if he keeps changing his mind about things, that may very well sadly happen..Who is the mastermind behind all of this? FISA, Campaign Finances, this issue, faith based initiatives..

Please Obama, you are our last hope for this country..Get back on track and stop changing your mind!!! Don't screw this up..PLEASE!! Stop looking like a flip flopper. McCain is soiling his depends with glee as you change your mind..

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

dlake — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:11:07 GMT

Obama has been consistent on Iraq. He has always said he'd be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. This is why he refused to commit at the debate. For while this is his plan we all know you cannot fore see the future and it would be lunacy to swear to something that could change in a minute sometime in the future.
This gotcha obsession and parsing every word Obama says is lunacy as well.
Especially when no one seems to be paying attention to all the things coming out of McCain's mouth.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

M.A Oswego Il — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:11:18 GMT

Obama FLIP FLOPPER=George W Bush third term

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Sonya, Los Angeles CA — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:17:09 GMT

Thanks for printing the truth. All week people in the media (Joe Scarbough and Pat Buccannan)have been waiting for the opportunity to accuse Senator Obama of shitfing on Iraq. I see how some are trying hard to help Mcsain with his dirty work and thats not change we can belive in.
OBAMA 08

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Obama Grandma — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:18:16 GMT

Well, I'm glad you're showing both sides on this post. I've heard Obama state several times he will make decisions based on current events... Beats the hell out of saying 'I'm the decider, and will NEVER change my mind about anything, even if it's wrong'...

Joe Scarborough was a total disgrace tonight on 'Race for the Whitehouse'. With him, it's either see it through his eyes, or he ridicules you... Like he did Rachael Maddow tonight - THE smartest woman you have on MSNBC... Why you keep this joker on TV is beyond me... Is his granddaddy the CEO of GE?

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

tabitha parri dallas tx — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:19:26 GMT

These reporters which schools did they go to do they no the meaning of refining i dont think so, because when he said he will refine his iraq policy meaning he will withdraw troops, because refining means remove unwanted substance so he means he will withdraw our troops from iraq, the problem here is you are not used to president who are inteligent so i think reporters need to stay with dictionaries, so that whan obama says something they have to look it up before they run with it THIS IS ENGLISH GUYS, i dont think he changed his policy actually he is going to withdraw troops and hats what he has been saying come on reporters we want people who are smart other outside the country reporters are watching and saying what kind of english do these american reporters get, be smart and dont embrass us when you dont get the word refining simply because you want to make news

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Ross, Brooklyn, NY — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:22:56 GMT

Republicans have played politics with Iraq and the war on terror for too long. Obama is trying to take a cautious approach about troop withdrawals and the republicans knock him for it. It's disgusting that they can't offer ideas. Instead they just complain and criticize as if this is all a game to them.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

A Charles, LA, CA — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:24:36 GMT

It seems like the liberal press is trying to set Obama up to say he will not bring troops home.

This is what the left does. Weaken their candidates for intelectual sport.

I wonder why there's only been 2 Dem presidents in the last 40 years.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Summer/Sam Diego — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:25:44 GMT

I have to admitt I have to state. No matter what. Obama is doing the right things. i have to state. msmbc calls it like it is...........we are so ready for a change. I know no one is perfect. but over all I think even if people vote for Mc Cain they will cry for four years......I am scared that before Bush leaves office. he is going to due something to place us back into war............you will see. I have never been scared but this will happen; we will be worst off esp if Mc Cain gets into office. truly what does he have too lose. he over 70 rich. I hope iam wrong. I have not been wrong yet.......you will see. we will be into war before election. how sad

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

voter — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:27:44 GMT

sounds pretty consistant to me. Obama has clearly stated as Rachel Maddow has pointed out today in race for the white house that he will have 1-2 bircades a month withdraw from Iraq. This is contingent to what the generals in the ground say. I don't understand the notion that he has flip flopped. he has not. Rachel read the evidence from March of this year of the importance to withdraw responsible and listen to the generals on the ground as the troops leave iraq.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

vinny daytona beach fl — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:30:58 GMT

This shows that he is another politician and probabely Hillary was more honest than him. The whole political and prime time political news team of NBC and MSNBC should feel ashamed of being biased against Hillary. It is time for Chris Mathews to retire.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Brian, Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:36:35 GMT

It is amazing how the main stream media tries to create flip flops where there are none while giving McCain a free ride. I've listened to the Obama Clinton debates where Obama said he would be as careful getting out of Iraq, as Bush was careless going in.

This is truly incredible how irresponsible the main stream media is in its coverage and repetition of GOP talking points. The American people are poorly served by this GOP inspired spin.

You want a flip flop? Try McCain on tax cuts, the GI Bill, offshore drilling and abortion.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Nashville_fan — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:36:43 GMT

I really don't understand why the media is working so hard to pretend that they don't understand Senator Obama's position.

He wants to withdraw the troops in 16 months. He hasn't seen anything that has changed his mind. READ HIS LIPS - he is going to do what's BEST for America and the troops.

Put aside your need to attempt to trap someone with their own words just this once. It is a pointless exercise. All heat and no light.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

a reasonable man — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:36:46 GMT

At least as far back as January, Obama's message has been consistent in both speeches and on his website about his plans regarding Iraq. Granted, some points have been vague, which he intends to refine once he has the access and the information to confidently do so.

So I just don't get this Media-generated bruha. The typical bias towards convenient soundbites does not make them true (or justify slander based on mischaraterization).

IT IS MCCAIN WHO CAN'T KEEP HIS POSITIONS STRAIGHT. I could quote a dozen YouTube-backed examples without breaking a sweat.

Look...
Where's your voice, your indignation, FirstRead correspondants where it concerns the ridiculous assertions of McCain's surrogates?! The frequent pandering and flipflops? The halfbaked disasterous policy positions?

Stop giving McCain's commandos free reign, FirstRead! He doesn't need your pity. We expect more from you. Gah!

Shutting down my browser now...

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

American Voter — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:45:04 GMT

Journalists Predict Scrutiny of McCain . . . Some Day

By Peter Hart

It’s hardly controversial to point out that many in the corporate media have a fondness for presumptive GOP White House nominee John McCain. The prevailing journalistic attitude was expressed by Washington Post columnist David Broder (4/24/08): “In an age of deep cynicism about politicians of both parties, McCain is the rare exception who is not assumed to be willing to sacrifice personal credibility to prevail in any contest.”

Over the past few months, however, many pundits and reporters have declared that despite the press corps’ feelings for McCain, he will nevertheless face tough scrutiny . . . some day.

After declaring on PBS’s Charlie Rose show (2/8/08) that some of McCain’s rhetoric is beyond criticism (“McCain has a license to use words that the rest of us could not. . . . I mean, he can be pretty out there, using words like ‘surrender,’ because who is really going to question John McCain?”), Newsweek’s Evan Thomas (2/16/08) responded to the idea that the press was fond of McCain and Barack Obama as well:

Maybe so, but it doesn’t really matter, because the press is almost certain to turn on both men. Digging through the personal record, searching for human flaws, is what reporters do when they cover presidential campaigns, and the critical skepticism only deepens when the winner occupies the Oval Office.

On NBC’s Meet the Press (4/27/08), PBS host Gwen Ifill explained: “There’s a lot of time between now and the fall. . . . John McCain is doing a lot of interesting things which will bear closer scrutiny when the time comes."

In an April 25 online chat (cited by ThinkProgress, 4/29/08), Washington Post reporter Shailagh Murray was asked, “Will we see more scrutiny of [McCain’s] campaign finances and practices, or will Obama/Wright continue to suck up all the oxygen?”

Murray’s reply: “This is driving Democrats crazy right now, but just wait. Once the primary battle is over, Senator McCain will get his fair share of scrutiny.”

When Newsweek’s Richard Wolffe was asked on MSNBC (4/30/08; cited by Media Matters, 5/1/08) whether McCain received a free pass from the media with regard to his ties to right-wing evangelist John Hagee, he declared:

Absolutely. And look, we’ve all heard evangelical ministers, white ministers, condemn America and damn America for abortions. And so, yeah, I don’t think there’s an equal balance of criticism and focus here. In some ways, John McCain is getting a free ride. But of course, that doesn’t take away from the offensive nature and the outrageousness of what Reverend Wright has said. But at some point, that scrutiny will come.

NBC’s Tim Russert spoke on the Don Imus show (5/5/08; cited in CJR Daily, 5/6/08) on the same subject: “I don’t think the Hagee thing, McCain hasn’t been questioned, has not been scrutinized about that. . . . He’s really been given this grace period to go around the country.” Russert said the same thing that evening on MSNBC (5/5/08; cited in CJR Daily, 5/7/08): “When Senator McCain is back in the media’s light, he’ll receive the same kind of scrutiny.”

When blogger Arianna Huffington argued (Good Morning America, 5/1/08) that McCain “is not getting the scrutiny he deserves,” ABC anchor Charles Gibson replied: “But Arianna . . . we got a big Democratic race going on now. The McCain/X race, whoever he runs against, will get very major attention soon.”

A May 7 USA Today editorial declared that “Republican John McCain might be enjoying the Democratic brawl from the sidelines, but sooner or later, he’ll be back in the harsh spotlight himself.”

It’s unusual to hear reporters admitting that even though a prominent politician and presidential candidate is saying and doing things that deserve scrutiny, they haven’t gotten around to giving his words or deeds much attention.

McCain’s recent activities do cry out for media coverage. On April 18, McCain released his own tax returns, showing that he has next to no assets in his own name, while keeping his wife’s sizable fortune private—a tactic that attracted intensely skeptical coverage when Sen. John Kerry tried it in 2004 (New York Times, 5/9/04). Or consider McCain’s blaming a bridge collapse last year in Minneapolis on earmark spending—a claim the alleged Straight Talker promptly withdrew (L.A. Times, 5/2/08). Or McCain’s assurance that his energy policy “will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East”—a phrasing that implied that all Mideast wars the U.S. has been involved in are essentially about oil, although McCain later claimed that he was only referring to the 1991 Gulf War (AP, 5/2/08).

Journalism, of course, is supposed to hold politicians to account—not some day, but every day. Putting off scrutiny of John McCain until some imagined future moment is really giving him a free pass in the present—and that’s a journalistic problem that deserves some self-scrutiny.

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Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

DCortez, Houston, Texas — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:45:32 GMT

Flip ... wait for it ... wait for it ... FLOP!!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Kaye Martin — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:46:06 GMT

Thanks for the clarification. The other media outlets are reporting this story as if it constitutes a major
shift in policy.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Ira, Freehold, NJ — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:59:05 GMT

It is hard to believe that the McCain campaign and the media are so desperate for news that they would manufacture another phony news story, the second this week. After the manufactured Clarke controversy, this.

Obama has said and has continually maintained that he expects to remove a brigade or 2 a month from Iraq with the intent of having all troops removed within 16 months. He DID NOT change, or a signal a change in his position today.

What he said was after going to Iraq and talking to commanders on the ground, he would refine his strategy. Refine...not change....based on information from field commanders.

Obama is going to Iraq to LEARN...to gain additional knowlege. Based on his discussions he will refine his poicy. If a candidate is so inflexible (like McCain) that a change in facts does not refine his position then he does not have the judgement or smarts to be POTUS. The President of the United States has to make life changing decisions based on the best facts available in ever changing situations. Obama is showing he can do that. McCain is tied to an 8 year failed policy on Iraq initiated by a President that will go down in history as one of the worst and one of the most irrelevant.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Just Me — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:01:11 GMT

As we progress towards the November election, Barack Obama is also progressing from a political novice to a professional flip-flopper...Kudos! Welcome to politics Barack!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

schmeck, Orlando — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:03:22 GMT

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/06/google-shuts-down-anti-obama-blogs/?#c

This is the true Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaO7N-JujU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl-P1-2OKEM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pRcTY4XPMY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWZ3w6lNHv8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaO7N-JujU&feature=related

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Peg, Chicago, IL — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:05:25 GMT

I wish the MSM would stop using John McCain's talking points to use for their stories everyday. If McCain says it, then you report it as accurate. Nothing could be further from the truth.

When will the MSM start doing their own investigative stories on the fact, and not just parroting Republican talking points? The American people who cannot afford to buy gas, food, or keep their homes are MUCH smarter than this, and it will not work this time, not this year, when so much is at stake.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

sean — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:13:01 GMT

refine his policy, a la, public financing, NAFTA... oh, yeah, he wants a new kind of bs, I mean change.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

CE — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:14:35 GMT

He took one position to campaign against Senator Clinton. NOW, he is taking another position to campaign against Senator McCain.

Flip-flop might be too kind - he is a TYPICAL POLITICIAN! The very thing he claimed not to be.

Are more of his followers less blinded now by his empty words? If not, you have several more months to see him in his true light before the election. Too bad it did not happen in time to make Senator Clinton the nominee so the Democrats could win in November.

Democrats for McCain - Just Say No Deal!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

layoff him — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:14:48 GMT

The republicans have done a really good job of convincing the media that Obama is going to come back from his trip overseas and flip-flop on his Iraq Policy.

Twice today he has had to come out and defend himself from the Media. The perceived possibility of a flip on his Iraq Policy is only going to hurt him, and the fact that he is going to come back with the same policy will not undo the damage that you have created.

Layoff, don't make the news to report, wait for the news to happen and then report about it!!!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Lexi, Mississippi — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:16:40 GMT

How exactly is he changing his position, as the GOP would like to have you believe? He has always said he will get us out, but the lives of the troops and what is happening when he takes office will be what guides his decisions. I trust him to make wise decisions here.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:16:49 GMT

To not change policy given changing circumstances is irresponsible. Stay the course is George Bush politics and we all see how far that has got us.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Robert in Virginia — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:24:44 GMT

The media is placing entirely too much focus on parsing Obama's policy on Iraq wihout analyzing the alternative interpretation. The alternative interpretation is that we stay in Iraq until we "win" or we "succeed". When will the media help the public to know what winning means. Without that insight Obama is forced to debate with himself and the loser will be the American people. ASK MCCAIN REAL QUESTIONS ADN STOP COPYING HIS PRESS RELEASES!!!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Larry J Clearwater FL — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:29:13 GMT

O'bamboozle will cut and run. The liberal's dislike for the military and anything it can accomplish is obvious. They think its more patriotic to walk in a parade protesting than to put your life on the line. Who supplies the sons and daughters that fight for our country? Just look in the red areas. The liberal politicians count on ignorant masses to gain their power. The rich liberals and Hollywood j*rks want the government to make rules and decisions for the all the common folk and exempt them. They all whine about the ice melting but they fly all over the world all the time. But its the common folk who should be sacrificing convenience to cool the planet. The liberal elitists are too important to give up their fancy cars and jets. But nobody ever accused the dems of being intelligent. Geez, its more important that the French like us.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Blake, Des Moines IA — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:30:35 GMT

Thank you FirstRead for covering this objectively!! I wish the other MSM would show the same level of integrity. No Flip-Flop here, Obama is just restating what he has said all along.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Senator Obama is right and consistent in his statements — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:33:39 GMT

This is NOT a reversal by Senator Obama. It is just good ol'common sense in dealing with issues. He has the same goal-- to end occupation in Iraq, the time-table around 16 months, using discretion as needed in bringing them home. What a farce for the RNC to jump on this as if it is an issue. Everytime Senator Obama opens his mouth, the republicans holler "Flip-flop". We can't even have a respectable discourse on any issues for the republicans twisting, distorting and exaggerating everything.
Rest easy, Senator Obama, you have my support and full confidence. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other each day and move forward. There will be many battles. Keep up the excellent work! I know what you said and how you meant it.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Larry J Clearwater FL — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:38:49 GMT

Obamboozle will pull the troops out regardless of the circumstances. The must be going better because the liberal media cant seem to find much negative events to report. All the sacrifice that has been put into destroying an evil dictatorship and fighting the dirt bag terrorist over there will be lost because the "ice is melting " crowd s cowardly. But of course all you Obamatrons will feel safe beacuse your guy can give fine speeches and hes determined to make friends with everyone. Dont worry about taxes being raised by O'bamboozle either becase you still wont have a job in 4 years. You have no education, no job, paying too much for gas, and the ice is melting. And its all GWB's fault.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Robert, West Greenwich RI — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:59:07 GMT

Domenico,

Thanks for posting the interview with Tim for comparison. It'll certainly help reinforce the fact that his position on this has not changed.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

What a fool! — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:59:49 GMT

Well, stumble and babble. Yes your self serving paper hanger has rambled about Iraq, thus he is so damned empty for leadership a bimbo could out pace him. The more Obama keeps running off at the mouth , he is digging a deeper hole to crawl into! All these election promises are pure self serving bull sheit! America is suffering from ""Stupid""! This paper hanger has no clue to how and end to this war should be! ""One short trip and he will have the answer""A bloody idiot! If elected this country will fall apart in weeks with that kind of leadership!!! Get the tar and feathers!!!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Susan, Aberdeen, NC — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:04:27 GMT

This is what I heard Obama say every time on the Iraq war. We need to be as careful getting out, as we were careless getting in.
As a former republican, until Bush set up our own Office of Homeland IN-Security, what moved me to become interested in politics again, was Obama's commitment to SET a DEFINITIONS of for SUCCESS in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's a shame no one saw this problem in time to fix it years ago. As far as I can tell McCain wants us to never surrender, but he can't articulate what SUCCESS he actually wants, or even to set goals to accomplish "SUCCESS".

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Obama for me — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:07:22 GMT

The language has not changed. He has said his goal would be to get the troops out in 16 months, but he would make that decision after he listened to the generals. Also that he would get out as soon as he possibly could. You want to talk about flip flops then you need to cover the McCain campaign, but of course you will not because you are going to give him a pass. You are lokking more like Fox on a daily basis

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

ya know — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:07:57 GMT

sounds exactly the same to me. McMumble is confused again.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Jimmy D., Torrance, CA — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:14:24 GMT

The amazing thing is that no one seems to connect the dots. First you see the Secretary of the Air Force and Air Force Chief of Staff relieved for a mishap equivalent to the firing of the US Post Master General being fired because an entire sub-division in the City of Los Angeles, CA has its mail misdirected. Now you have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff voicing his concern about an unprovoked attack against Iran.

This is what appears to be simply acts of dissent. First from the Secretary of Air Force, and Chief of Staff, and now the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. There is no way the Chairman would voice his dissent publicly, unless he was attempting to thwart what he believes to be a misguided decision, that no military leader is willing to endorse. You have to believe that the Joint Chiefs talk amongst each other.

With 6-months remaining in his term, you would think that Bush would be laying out logistics for his post presidency (I.e., New Home, Activities and etc...), or visiting foreign dignitaries as a formal send off. Our economy is in peril, and the American people are suffering at levels not seen since the 1929 great depression, and the Administration is war mongering. Typically, you would think that the appropriate thing to do is lay the ground work for the incoming administration (Rep or Dem), attempt to quell our economic woes, while de-emphasizing the present Administration. Why can't America see what is going on? Trust me, this is only the first glimpse of the insubordination you will see over the next few months, should Bush attempt to strike Iran.

They've already set the stages for it, by designating the Iranian Republican Guard as a terrorist organization. Their logic is that, they will only be firing on the terrorist component of Iran. However, if someone declared our Marine Corp as a terrorist organization, and only fired on them, would not our Air Force, Army and Navy respond? Who are they fooling? An attack on Iran, will launch a battle that will lead to catastrophic proportions. God help us, if this is permitted. Can anyone stop this madness?

Wake up America!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

marthat — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:17:11 GMT

My wish for this upcoming election coverage is that journalist at MSNBC and other major networks spend as much time on your good buddy McCain's record as you do trying to destroy Obama by focusing on one comment instead of looking at true context of his speech.

Where did your coverage go re: McCain's bullying in Nicaragua?
Where is your moral outrage over McCain's disgusting treatment of his first wife? Isn't that against the morals that make u good Americans?

Start playing fair please....Chuck, you are my go to guy for information and fair perspective. Don't fail me now!!!!!!

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Sal — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:26:19 GMT

"this is not the first time Obama has showed flexibility on the timetable..."
He was never inflexible. He knows the difference between strategy and tactics. McCain skipped that course, evidently. Maybe that's why he graduated 894 out of 899 in his class at the Naval Academy.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Rick - California — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:35:24 GMT

Our family appreciates Sen. Obama's change of position. I recognize others will quickly jump on the thought that there is no change - but for those of us directly involved in Iraq, and have been very carefully listening to EVERYONE's words, this is a good change. If Sen. Obama gets elected, then the step back out of Iraq will be organized, same as the current administration program.

Obama says he could 'refine' Iraq policy

Flint Girl — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:41:21 GMT

...and the point is? Of course, he'd have to see what the situation is when he is elected. And you know it ain't gonna be pretty. Bush will leave a mess. Plus, he tries to court the middle a bit. He has to. He isn't selling out. Just relax people - we have a long way to go until November and 24-hour news will simply talk us to death.