FISA's unanswered questions

Terry, Disabled Vet, Des Moines, IA — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:18:23 GMT

If it was legal then why does any entity need immunity? Answer----it was not legal and therefore must pass something to cyoa------does this remind anyone of another era?------hint Soviet Union and Nazi Germany

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Wally, Santa Barbara — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:18:33 GMT

I realize that alot of people are upset that this bill gives (limted) immunity to the telecoms. I don't like what they and the Bush admin. did any more than you do. But what the next president needs to do is look forward, not fight the fights of the last 8 years. History will judge the Bush administration harshly. Now we need to fix the mess, not point fingers. I support Obama in moving forward.

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D. A. Reuter (AKA Defender of the Constitution), Bremerton, WA — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:18:41 GMT

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Reality, NY — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:19:42 GMT

Fact 1: FISA has been arround pre-911

Fact 2: New FISA Bill will require all surveillance be precleared via warrants.

Fact 3: New FISA Bill will allow for criminal prosecution of any crimes commited in the past few years.

Fact 4: FISA will not allow for Civil Suits against Telecom companies

Fact 5: Fact 4 can be revisited in future and changed as all Laws change

Fact 6: Netroots lets not throw this election under the bus because of selfrightousness--ergo 2000 and Nader

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john doe, Seattle, Wash — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:21:48 GMT

wow. This is the simplest and worst story I have ever read about FISA. You managed to miss it all.

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sammy, FL — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:25:23 GMT

So prior to this Bill it was LEGAL to have warrantless Wire tapping???

If thats the case, don't we NEED this Bill!

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Sharon, Antioch, TN — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:27:21 GMT

But the bill does not stop criminal investigations. It stops civil suits. I don't agree with that, but it is more important to get the Court back in the mix. As Barack has stated it gives the FISA courts oversight of wiretaps and protects Americans from illegal wiretaps.

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Betsy, NJ — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:28:46 GMT

The freedom to sue the telecom companies for past misconduct as result of Shady Bush officials seems counterproductive.

Do we really want to Bancrupt AT&T, Verizon, and T-mobile?

I like my 4th Amendment but I like my cell phones too.

I also wouldn't like to see their employees out of work.

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Ira, Freehld, NJ — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:29:32 GMT

In simplest terms, this bill effectively sanctioned without penalty, felony acts committed by telecoms on the specific orders of our government. Felony acts which would qualify as high crimes and be grounds for impeachmeent. The Congress has looked the other way, giving immunity for possible crimes that have not even been described or disclosed.

If this is a precedent that Congress wants to set, then what safeguards will we have if another President violates the law, the Constitution and the public trust knowing Congress will grant immunity? This is not looking forward; this is a huge leap backward for our democracy.

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MSierra, SF — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:31:05 GMT

Clara Kansas City, MO: Israel has only ever defended themselves against heinous and constant attacks...'

Sorry, Clara NOT TRUE
We can go back to 1956, 1967 and 1982 where the Israelis attacked their neighbors
Sneak attacks, both times
The Israelis have also been aggressors
It's not all good Israelis and bad Arabs
The Israelis also seized the Sheba Farms in Lebanon provoking Hezbollah to attack.
Israel used cluster bombs on civilians
That's a violation of international law

'...We do have a big picture strategy to preserve our Alliance with Israel who has been bullied and victimized by this aggressor. Just my opinion. I probably need to read more about it...'

Clara, ask the Palestinians and the Lebanese who's been bullied
You might get a different picture

Still, I do agree with most of the sentiments you post in this blog

Obama/Edwards '08

PS
No, I don't think Obama shares my Mid East views
Maybe Ralph Nader, Ron Paul and even Dennis Kucinich might.....

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NObama — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:32:37 GMT

Anyone who votes for this bill is a Quisling, not to mention a traitor, and will be responsible for turning our democratic republic into a fascist nation. Remember that we fought a world war against fascism and fascists will always be an enemy of the United States of America.
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DA Reuter: You hit on the head. Obama the fascist. His overall view is to make people dependent upon the state and loyal to the LEADER not the country.

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Diane from Illinois — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:32:58 GMT

I agree with Wally in Santa Barbara. History will tell the story of this awful, failed Bush/Cheny/Rove Administration. They should all be tried as war criminals; however, I respect Obama's decision to re-evaluate the bill and move forward. Is it perfect? No. But he said it was better than the first bill they tried to pass. I trust Obama.

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Nicholas: Minnesota — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:35:26 GMT

I don't care about retro-active immunity. It would be stupid to offer a cookie to a child, then a week later slap them for taking the cookie we gave to them in the past. The government, not the telecoms should be responsible. Now, the important question of the bill is how does it change things in the future.

Is there a future immunity, or future oversight to prevent unconstitutional domestic spying? That is the real question to me, and I don't know the answer.

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Ellis B. Kingman, Az. — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:45:55 GMT

As a president who took the oath to uphold the U.S Constitution ,Bush like no president in history has shown such disdain for the document or supreme law of the land, tis no wonder he is fighting so hard to prevent the governmental civil liberties board from convening during his watch. Congress should pass no laws or grant any immunities until the full scope of the wiretaps are investigated by an independent source. Civil liberties are not a trivial matter, lets get it right and leave it to the courts to determine the legality of the so-called wiretaps.

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A Charles, LA, CA — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:47:45 GMT

No offense, but this is a very thin entry. I really want to know the motivation on both sides. I understand repubs wanting this to go away. Why would democrats back this? Can any shed some light.

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John Edwards for Attorney General — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:47:52 GMT

I believe that Senator Obama will have his attorney general bring criminal charges against Bush/Cheney for their crimes against the constitution in regards to their illegal wiretapping. I would love to see John Edwards in that position. That would be sweet justice after the stolen election!

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donna — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:48:50 GMT

My phone has been clicking, and weezing, spilling over into other folks conversations, and vice versa, off, and on since 9/11.

It's been quite a while since I detected shenanigans going on during my phone conversations, but it started up again today, after my flame throwing post, once the electricity came back on.

Whatever, this is America, and I have the right, no duty to speak my mind, and conscience.

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Rick, NC — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:49:48 GMT

Whats the problem? If you have nothing to hide why not let others pry into your communications?

Speaking of that though it would seem that the bushleague would be more willing to release more of their documents...if they did nothing wrong why the secrecy?

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DV, CA — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:53:11 GMT

DA Reuter: You hit on the head. Obama the fascist. His overall view is to make people dependent upon the state and loyal to the LEADER not the country.
NObama
*****

So predictable...so sad

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Anna Molly — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:56:33 GMT

Something you can sing to your kids to sleep with tonight ...

All around the halls of Congress,
The boogeyman chased the Senators,
The Senators said don't blame it on us,
Blame it on the terrorists ....

POP * Goes The Constitution