Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

BL, Cincinnati OH — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:37:07 GMT

"The fact is, if we had done what Senator Obama wanted to do.." - John McSame

The fact is, if we had done what Senator Obama wanted to do...
We would have 4000+ American kids still alive.
We would have 30,000+ American kids healthy and with all their limbs in tact.
We would have a military that isn't near the breaking point.
We would have $800+ billion still in our Treasury.
We would have finished the job in Afghanistan years ago.
We wouldn't been seen around the world as Imperialist.
We wouldn't have an empowered and emboldened Iran.

If we had done what Senator Obama wanted to do, this war would never have happened.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

William, Hermosa Beach, California — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:40:12 GMT

It's not so much that the "surge" was successful, but that our clever enemy has simply moved the battlefield...to the Afghanistan-Pakistan boarder. Obama is right and McCain is left in the dust bin of history, fighting the last war, instead of winning the next.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

BJ, CA — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:41:14 GMT

COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A DEBATE TIME TABLE....

DON'T WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE CONVENTION PLEASE..

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Lou R — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:41:28 GMT

Obama's strategic thinking and leadership is now on display for the world to see. McCain appears more to be a muttering old man wishing he too had the energies and mental capacities to be a sincere and true world leader. His buddies Joe and Rudy may talk about him in such glowing terms, however McCain is in a melt down. Next we may see 41, McCain and Bud Day in a threesome.

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Dave, Tn — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:14 GMT

I'd like to see someone in the media ask Obama about his timetable for Afghanistan. What's his magic number of casualties before Harry Reid & Nancy declare defeat?

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Bill Jones — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:45:07 GMT

McGoofy will never have a clue because the tightness in his a$$ goes clear thru to his brain....

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Michelle Zee — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:47:25 GMT

No McNeedaREalityCheck, if we would have done what Obama wanted, we never would have started this war.

This is a tired argument and shows how out of touch the McIgnoreAmerica is out of touch with what we want and what Iraq wants.

That camp needs a new talking point. Obama is not even in country and this camp is not able to capitalize on this moment. How embarrassing!!! It doesn't matter in a few months they can take their ball and go home.

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Brian, Cedar Hill, TX — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:50:00 GMT

“‘The fact is, if we had done what Senator Obama wanted to do, we would have lost,’ Mr. McCain said.

NOT....if we HAD done what Senator Obama wanted to do, we never would have had this war in the first place. Think of all the billions of dollars saved, the low gas prices we'd be enjoying and the lives and families that would not have been destroyed.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Dvaid Kolva, MD Oswego/Syracuse, Ny — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:50:31 GMT

There may be such a thing as having TOO MUCH military experience! It tends to blunt your analytical powers by forcing blind obedience.

Obama, like Lincoln, saw the overall strategy, and stays true to principles. You can argue small-scale tactics, like the "surge", ad nauseum. The reality is that many factors led to the stability in Iraq.

How does McInSane reconcile Dick Cheney's judgment versus Obama's since both have the exact same amount of military service.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Bruce St. Helens, OR — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:56:12 GMT

Even the most efficient and well-planned withdrawal from Iraq will result in tons of equipment and supplies being left behind - not an encouraging prospect given the demand by all of the militias in the Middle East for military equipment and supplies.

On another note, I have not seen photos of the newly constructed American embassy in Iraq. Has anyone? Is it true that that embassy is our largest and most expensive? Wonder why there has been little if any reporting about this?

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GP Chicago — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:58:44 GMT

“McCain, campaigning in Maine, was blistering in his criticism of Obama on Monday. He said his rival has been ‘completely wrong’ on Iraq and "has no military experience whatsoever," and argued again that any withdrawal from Iraq must be based on conditions on the ground.”

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So enlighten me John my friend....

Where did we find those WMD's?

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ge`pa`` — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:00:20 GMT

Mccain says Obama has "no military experience whatsoever." Yet all I see on my TV is the same political clip over and over again about Mccain a prisoner of war etc. `if I see it one more time I think I will vomit. Just because McSame was a prisoner of war does not make him the best candidate to be president. At least he came back with all his limbs--unlike many of our soldiars comming home today.

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Ron Indiana — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:02:52 GMT

I guess it could be called "good timing", but in fact the GOP "goated" Obama to make this trip. There is absolutely no question that with regard to foreign affairs, Obama will represent the best interests of the American people.

McCain campaign has to be frustrated, but the one argument that makes not sense is that if our allies like Obama then Americans should not vote for him. That is silly.

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Gary Schear, bozeman Montana — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:05:02 GMT

BJ, CA (Sent Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:41 AM)

Scroll up to the MSNBC.com Political Calendar. The Debate schedule has been there for awhile.

SEPTEMBER 2008
26 Presidential debate in Oxford, Miss.

OCTOBER 2008
2 Vice Presidential debate in St. Louis, Mo.
7 Presidential debate in Nashville, Tenn.
15 Presidential debate in Hempstead, N.Y.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

BJ, CA — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:08:26 GMT

Thanks....

To Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana

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kenn — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:14:01 GMT

Obamma favored not going to war and then he favored retreat and immediate withdrawl now he is at 16 months whats next 3 years how about 4 maybe 8 or ten how about a hundred leave it to the CHICKEN HAWKS to fight for us and we will all be beheaded by the extreamist islam facists,how long will obamma have troops in afganistan?you dont know you dont know anything about this guy except he has used everyone in his past to step over and achieve what he wants the most nothing more than a MASSIVE EGO TRIP enjoy your ride

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donna — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:15:07 GMT

“McCain, campaigning in Maine, was blistering in his criticism of Obama on Monday. He said his rival has been ‘completely wrong’ on Iraq and "has no military experience whatsoever," and argued again that any withdrawal from Iraq must be based on conditions on the ground.”

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Auntie Fascist Hussein — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:15:29 GMT

Ulysses S. Grant was a highly successful, if not brilliant, general who sucked rocks as POTUS. McCain ain't gonna be THAT good!

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kenn — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:15:49 GMT

POSER pose for the pretty pictures maybe be like bush and jump on some rubble and show us the way awe shucks hes so great I CANT WAIT TO FIGHT IN AFGANISTAN with all his supporters

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bernadette, harrisburg, pa — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:17:09 GMT

can someone please explain: commentators are saying Obama erred in repeating what was said in meetings with Iraqui leaders; but McCain says all the time that 'he knows what they want because we have talked many times' - how is that any different from what Obama has done on this trip (except that McCain does not want to accept what the Iraqui leaders are saying)? I would like to hear from a journalist about this.

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John Snyder — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:20:57 GMT

Ron,

Our allies love Obama for the mere fact that he is an appeaser. THEY have their own interest and agendas. We merely became allies with them (or the other way around) because we are currently the 'lesser evil' nation to begin with. If another opportunity comes down the road other than the US, I betcha they will switch sides in a hearbeat. So grow up will ya!

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Gary Schear, bozeman Montana — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:22:24 GMT

"I'd like to see someone in the media ask Obama about his timetable for Afghanistan. What's his magic number of casualties before Harry Reid & Nancy declare defeat?

Dave, Tn (Sent Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:42 AM)"

Dave,
Obama has been willing from the beginning to pressure the Pakistanis on Bin Laden, on the Taliban and on securing their border. If he gains intelligence on where bin laden might be in Waziristan he said he will act on it...and I believe him...and support him.
It was not Obama who denied the CIA officer on the ground at Tora Bora the 800 rangers he needed to ferret out Bin Laden.
It was not Obama who forced the military into sending afghan irregulars into the mountains to do our job. The probably escorted him safely into Pakistan.
It was not Obama who drew down our forces in
Afghanistan in order to execute the largest foreign policy blunder in US history by invading Iraq and deposing Irans only natural enemy and deterrent in the region. How dumb was that?
If all you got is shouting DEFEAT, SURRENDER, CUT AND RUN, then you got nothin. The same as McBush...Nothin.

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:23:08 GMT

I was right that the world is hungering after someone like Obama after eight years of evil Bush/Cheney. The world will welcome him like the Pope or some superstar, because they're hungering for his message. We've seen that now with his triumph in Iraq.
And what does the White House and its clone candidate have to offer? "War Is Peace" because it helps those in power to grab more power, spy on everyone and dismantle the constitution to insure the domestic tranquility. We and the rest of the world reject the Repigs' endless war-as-an-excuse-to-destroy-the-Constitution. See ya later, Repiglicans!

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Jim Arley, AL. — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:24:00 GMT

It's a shame that so many or the comments sre submitted by a bunch of whinners! If we had done nothing as Obama wanted, we would have had more attacks on our soil and these jokers would be still whining. A strong America is what is needed not one of cowards!

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Eric, Homestead, FL — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:24:39 GMT

I'm a Vietnam combat vet. That qualifies me to shoot people from a helicopter but means nothing in the way of special qualifications for public office. This bitter old whining white guy is voting for Obama.

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Gary Whitlock Silver Lake, Kansas — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:28:08 GMT

Gramm had it slightly wrong. After listening to McCain in Maine, it is not the people that are whiners, it is John McCain...

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August Williams — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:28:29 GMT

So, let me get this straight.

Obama claims nearly every position on every subject and this plus 140 days in the Senate qualifies him to lead the U.S.?

I don't think so.

Obama is the most left Senator in a den of lefties. Usually its really hard to get to the left of Kennedy, Dodd and the rest but that is one thing this fraudulent candidate seems to be able to do with aplomb.

You folks who support Obama had better steel yourself if the unthinkable happens and he is elected, the blood is finally going to be on YOUR hands.

These are BIG chickens and they will roost with you for a very, very long time.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Gary Silver Lake, Kansas — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:30:31 GMT

Gramm had it slightly wrong. After listening to McCain in Maine, it is not the people that are whiners, it is John McCain...

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Sonia Kermaz, Indianapolis IN — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:31:02 GMT

McCain, like many old fools, will never understand that wisdom doesn't come with age, it comes with sensitivity, intelligence, and insight.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

August Williams — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:37:12 GMT

Al Qaeda is NOT the primary enemy kiddies, its a network of radical jihadists.

You Democrats don't even have the lexicon to discuss the matter properly, so just go on, hide your heads in the sand and hope that the adults win this election and that Obama's ridiculous candidacy goes down in the flames that it deserves.

If not, refer to the previous post and buy lotsa cracked corn, cause THAT chicken has a big appetite.

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camie — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:38:06 GMT

great timing by for obama. And no one can say that this is media propaganda because the military is controlling the footage. Also Maliki should be given a party for all hes done for obama.

Video of unenthusiastic PUMA, Just Say No Deal Protest
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/video-of-puma-just-say-no-deal-losers-hold-a-protest/
or
http://sensico2.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-blogs.html

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:38:13 GMT

I think the Iraqi government validating the Obama withdrawal concept might be game, set, and match for this election cycle.

There's still an opportunity for McCain to exploit gas prices or some other crisis. Watch for Republicans to start changing the subject away from foreign affairs and national security, kind of like illegal immigration became a "crisis" when things were looking their worst in Iraq. However, McCain will resist that change, I'm guessing, and still cling to this notion that he can ride the "surge" to victory, which I really doubt.

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Ann DC — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:45:20 GMT

I'd like to see someone in the media ask Obama about his timetable for Afghanistan. What's his magic number of casualties before Harry Reid & Nancy declare defeat?
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You wanna know a timetable? It's called don't stop until we catch Bin Laden, the guy actually responsible for 911 remember ( the reason for the war in the first place...not this Iraq distraction!)

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Ann DC — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:51:56 GMT

Brilliant! Gary Schear, bozeman Montana....Just Brilliant!

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Brian, Cedar Hill, TX — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:54:26 GMT

kenn, dude, what are you on?

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Ron Indiana — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:56:24 GMT

John Snyder:

Thank you for your insight. I am not convinced that Obama is an appeaser. To negotiate, compromise, find common solutions is not appeasing. You are likely right that over time some countries will betray us. But what are our alternatives? Trust no one. Negotiate with no one. Have war with..everyone. I think not. As a senior citizen I have grown up.

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reason — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:02:30 GMT

More lies from Obama and NBC. Noone with a brain trusts either of them anymore. NBC is a joke, the network nobody watches.

I wonder if the democrats are stealing money from the kids (like they did for air america) to fund NBC's shows now. Since advertisers are running from them like the plague.

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J. Richter — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:12:41 GMT

McCain FLip FLop Alert. Number Umpteenth
Republican presidential candidate John McCain appeared to leave a door open on Monday to a large-scale drawdown of U.S. troops from Iraq in the next two years.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/07/21/mccain_opinion_article_rejected_by_new_york_times/

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Barbara C. - Fort Lauderdale, FL — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:23:05 GMT

This is our time people -- if we are going to change the war, the way politics is run in Washington D.C., the way we service our troops when they come home again, the absolutely broken healthcare system, and of course, our economy.

This is our time to change the way we think and feel and all have a voice in our government working together, across party lines, to find common ground on the most important issues of our time.

Obama v. McCain: Good timing or what?

Chris, NH — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:28:17 GMT

McCain still thinks that withdrawal only can mean that the last troops are Evacuated from atop of an Embassy. Every war is NOT VIETNAM, no matter the similar blunders along the way.

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Paul — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:29:13 GMT

Obama as have other democrats has staked his search for power on a US defeat in Iraq. This theme was central to the democrats gains in 2006. Many democrats needed us to lose, many democrats wanted us to lose in order to regain power.Well it hasn't quite worked out that way and Obama is trying to slip away from his previous positions on Iraq, the"surge", etc..With the help of the fawning big 3 network TV stations & the left leaning press Obama is somehow trying to equate Maliki's statement with what he said and when he said he wanted us out immediately vis a vis Iraq. Onama wanted us out to insure a loss by the US, Maliki wants us out (and we will be glad to leave) when it is safe to do so and after victory is complete. There is a big difference in timing and intent between the two postions and no amount of manufactured blurring by Obama and the press can change this.

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Kat Wheeler — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:35:38 GMT

What does McCain mean "We would have lost"? He sounds like some kind of nut nowadays. Is he having flashbacks? In Iraq we are fighting those who oppose our occupation - just like we would fight any country that tried to occupy our country. This is not World War II Grampy McCain.

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Dee St. Louis MO — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:39:16 GMT

@MSNBC; why don't you guys fire Andrea Mitchell. She is not a good journalist and it is obvious that she hates Senator Obama. We all knew that she wanted Hillary elected so, the Republicans would stand a chance. However, her reporting is sick and filled with hateful comments towards the Senator. Obama doesn't owe Ms. Mitchell anything and hopefully he won't let her near him. Please send another reported to cover the Senator in the future.

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Nj — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:40:03 GMT

Obama is right on wit everything. It amzes me that after 8 years or Bush and trillions of dollars lost along with lives and tons wounded there are people who still support The GOP.
The economy is in the tank but you support the GOP who has put us there.
Amazing.
McShame is an embarrassment. He is too old, too stubborn and too dumb to be POTUS. He and his wife live the High Life but The GOP says Obama is the elitist.
Amazing.
Obama is country first, not McShame. McShame is Himself and RICh GOP first.
Get a clue McShame losers

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Cincinnati girl — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:46:06 GMT

McCain needs to pick a side because he is so arguing the same point. If he really wants to reach the American people and highlight his "experience (term used loosely)", he needs to address what the people want. And the people want to be out of Iraq. He can't yell, scream, & whine about how he was right about the surge but not follow it with a plan/theory/hypothesis on withdrawing troops. Not to mention that the bulk of his economic plan is based on propsed savings from the Iraq war. But if he never talks strategically about how and under what circumstances we will attain those savings, does that mean that he's offering an economic plan with no hope to work? And how does he balance the priorites of his economic plan if another mini-surge is needed in Iraq and/or troops are needed in Afghanistan.

What McCain is failing to adapt to is the notion that national security is more than security against our actual & perceived enemies. The Presidency carries more responsibility than those imposed by war. It requires protection of our combined and individual assets, governing at a macro-level that does not interfere with or make more difficult the work of our state governments, and setting in motion strategic plans for our short & long term success.

Thank George Bush for creating a generation of more informed voters. Never again...