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Chuck, NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:28:25 GMT

It is extremely frustrating to hear disparaging remarks from Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews that Barack is cocky (many posters to FR have decried them for these remarks). It also was noted many times yesterday here in FR that Andrea Mitchell’s reporting of Barack is very biased. So my question to the NBC brass is this, what are your News Dept plans after Barack wins the election? Three of your major players will have been discredited.

This election and the victory of Obama will not only bring change to the practices and principles of politics in Washington, but it will also see sweeping changes in the world of talking heads and pundits. If you want to issue opinions, state up front these are opinions. These rants are being sold as analysis, and are far short of honest reporting. I did not capture the name of the person yesterday who said Tim Russert would be turning over in his grave with the shoddy performances of his NBC colleagues. I agree.

Repeatedly it has been mentioned that a negative Obama story last for weeks and a McCain gaffe only lasts 2-3 days. I am trying very hard to be honest with myself when I ask where is this so-called Obama favorable bias in the media? I think there is a tremendous amount of jealously from talking heads and pundits over Obama’s success.

Why am I ranting about this? I know my usual friends like Nashville, Pat and others will make similar comments, but what is being glossed over by our supposed experts (except KO) is the most telling aspect of the latest NBC poll, the excitement factor. If the talking heads and pundits would just relax and absorb the groundswell of excitement for Barack, and accept it for its authenticity, then we would be better off in our new reporting and analysis.

Finally, does anyone else think McCain is losing it; both mentally and emotionally?

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Fred Penn — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:30:54 GMT

Obama/Biden 08!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPev5sEdTjg

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camie — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:33:18 GMT

why cant anyone realize the fact that McCain can't push ahead of obama in the polls this is also mccains election to lose because obama has had a tough primary, his negative are still up from when it ended mccain should be ahead of obama. i think we should look at it from that end.

and i love when obama goes after fox news.

Video: McCains Daughter doesnt think mccains getting unfair media treatment, media party
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/media-unfair-to-mccain-meghan-mccain-seems-to-differ/
or
http://sensico2.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-blogs.html

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Dan, New York, NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:34:22 GMT

Chuck, perhaps it's time to stop calling this election a referendum on Obama. I get what your point is, but really, that's also an excuse for the press to stop the scrutiny of McCain and his support of the Bush administration.

As for VPs, I say Obama should buck the conventional wisdom and pick a domestic/economy choice.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

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MI Chick — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:35:23 GMT

Tried to post this yesterday...FR, please look into making this site more blogger friendly, despite what Cheeto Joe says.

"McCain's call for change: “What I want to do, is the day that I am elected, not the day I’m inaugurated but the day I’m elected I want to pick up the phone and call the majority leader, who I’ve known for a quarter of a century. I’ve known the speaker of the house. I’ll call both – I’ll say look, I’m going to be in town next week. Let’s sit down together, let’s sit down together and set priorities so that beginning right after the inauguration we’ll hit the ground running..."

Really? Hey, McCheese - if you have that much power, why not do it now? If you are so friendly with those in congress, you could...oh, wait. That's right. You don't actually want to SHOW UP for work. Nevermind.
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Responses to other threads:

Ken Price, Blue Island IL (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:45 PM)

Oh, please - Chicago and crime go together like PB&J. No one person is going to change that.
Come to think of it, NY is the same way. Tell me, did Rudy eliminate all crime in his city? Last I heard, people were killing each other there as well. I have even heard cops kill innocent bystanders there! Tell me again how magical the GOP is...

Mark,Seattle (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:26 PM)

I don't know if I am one of the ones that you want to continue to hear from, but I have been posting on HuffPo and Topix (our local news blog). I've tried blogging on CNN but they are worse than MSNBC at censoring posts. Have a great day!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:37:25 GMT

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:38:03 GMT

You mean to tell me that Obama got all that media coverage, and he only has a six (6) point lead?
WOW! That's very telling.
He didn't get a bounce from all that coverage, and McCain is still within reach of him.
Basically that says people don't trust Obama, don't know him, and want to wait-and-see what happens over the course of this campaign.
It also means that people genrally like John McCain, and want to give him a fair chance, in spite of the media's mean spirited attempts to pitch this election to Obama.
With all the attention Obama has gotten, it's absolutely amazing that he isn't ahead by 15-20 points.
But he isn't, and that says a lot!

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Pat, Boston, MA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:38:52 GMT

Finally, does anyone else think McCain is losing it; both mentally and emotionally? Chuck, NY (Sent Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:28 AM)
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Bingo Chuck.

As I watch these dreadful ads coming from the McCain camp, I’m reminded of the damage the commentators on Fox Propaganda have caused this country. Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Michelle Malkin, Bill Kristol, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Karl Rove; add into the mix Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck & Michael Savage.

Most of these people are heard all over the country on talk radio all day long. And their message works. Obviously.

And then watch and listen carefully to John McCain. Instead of acting like a 21st century dignified presidential candidate, he is now behaving like one of the right wing commentators mentioned above.

He’s bought into it all - hook, line & sinker. It’s exactly what happened to President Bush. A presidential candidate is supposed to rise above all this nonsense coming from talk radio. All they basically are are a bunch of idiots who have big mouths. They get paid a great deal of money to basically just mouth off.

Why isn’t John McCain able to see them for who they really are?

His ads are disgraceful. His shots at Senator Obama are childish and silly.
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Chuck, Yankees/Red Sox - big weekend in the good 'ole summertime.

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Dan Hedle, CA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:39:24 GMT

What's disturbing is the press coverage afforded Obama vs. McCain. You'd hope the media, and maybe there's a thousand or so people that control what is covered, would not have such a profound affect on the election. The all out blitz for nearly 100% coverage of Obama and 0% coverage McCain does have an effect. The media provides this fawning coverage of Obama, and then they act surprise when the poll numbers rise accordingly. Obama, who really doesn't offer much in ideas or anything else for that matter, is just another passenger on the medias coat-tails. The media through will turn on Obama soon enough.

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BJ, CA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:39:42 GMT

Has Rob Portman taken the Joe Lieberman speed word correction course needed for the job?
All over the map McGoofy shows Jindal may be to young to understand the virtues of history, no matter how distorted it is ...any way Jindal looks to healthy and handsome next to McGoofy...not good...

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Matt; Homewood, IL — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:40:05 GMT

Hey, First Read --- Don't hassle "the Hoff!"

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Nashville_fan — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:40:47 GMT

"How important has this overseas trip been for Obama? Look no further than our latest NBC/WSJ poll, which has Obama leading McCain by six points (47%-41%), unchanged from last month. "
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Didn't the numbers including ALL the candidates (Bob Barr and Ralph Nader) show Senator Obama with a double digit lead of 13%? Why no mention of that result since these candidates ARE actually going to be on the ballot?

Senator McCain is BEHIND in another poll, but the issue ONCE AGAIN is what Senator Obama needs to do.
Senator McCain can lie, disparage, misrember, and just plain CREATE HIS OWN HISTORY and it is a non story.

Sound fair to you Chuck?

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Daniel, NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:40:49 GMT

Campaign Diaries has posted its latest Senate rankings, with detailed descriptions of every single seat. Democrats are still in very good shape, with 12 of the top 13 races held by Republicans: http://campaigndiaries.com/senate

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Lee in CA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:41:53 GMT

If he's "cocky," then I think it's the proper word to use. Beats "uppity."

Of course! US troops are fed a constant diet of FOX SPEWS. What is it with lord Cheney? His advance people have 4 TVs turned on and tuned to FOX when the Dark Master enters?

"Yes," I'm sorry to say that it looks very much like John McCain is losing it. I Do NOT want him in the WH.

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GAB, Austin, TX — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:42:16 GMT

Pretty funny that Austins "darling" Lance Armstrong endorsed McCain. Theres going to be a lot of really unhappy people in Austin which is a "blue" city in this red state. There was talk here of him running for office, his endorsement might have blown that chance.

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Grant Brenner, Tacoma Washington — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:43:17 GMT

Quite a scene at the West Wall with Obama and his little campaign drones. See Barack, people regard that little plot of soil as sacred, and they accept people there that are there to pray, not prey, which is what you were doing by putting politics over religion. The main stream media though doesn't understand religion, so as ususal, you'll get a pass on this major flub.

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Nashville_fan — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:44:49 GMT

Raise your had if you REALLY believe that Bobby Jindal ever had a chance of being John McCain's VP? Anybody?

How does this type of "non news" story get so much coverage, when the actual Republican Party nominee gets no ink over not knowing which came first, the Anbar Awakening or the Surge?

How can someone who's been to Iraq so much not know that?

How did CBS news conveniently "misedit" that answer?

What a coincidence! (lol)

Why is hJohn McCain getting a free pass on that?

Why is the White House getting a free pass on distributing the "Maliki mistranslation" propoganda?

Anybody know?

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Obama / Biden 08 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:48:59 GMT

I have been following Senator Obama since the 2004 democratic convention. This time last year we were in the democratic debates and I was pulling for him then and felt that he was the best choice. I firmly believe that he has matured and is getting better and better in campaigning and presenting himself.
I absolutley will be voting for Senator Obama for all the right reasons, but now I am convinced that not only is Senator obama the right man for the job of president, I am convinced that Mccain is the wrong man and a dangerous choice for any American to make.

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Matthew — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:49:46 GMT

Why are other American's here so . . . I don't know . . . so selfish??

I am a proud American.

I am actually GLAD that for the first time in I don't know 8 YEARS the world actually is in tuned with and cares about what goes on here. What is wrong with you guys on here? He wouldn't have to do that if you guys would take your heads out of your ____ and accept that the guy IS an American and demand that our media stop attributing this "other" and "exotic" qualities to him!
Unbelievable!
What can Obama do right now to fix the prices at the pumps? Who has that power? "Oh Americans are hurting here . . .!"

BS ya'll!

Don't you see that this man is trying to repair the damage that Bush and by his approval McCain have done to our world image. We seem to think that we exist in a bubble that everything is beholding to us! Newsflash: There are actually investors out there from foreign countries that actually took A LOSS on their investments here because of how the Bush/Cheney juggernaut has run this country. They DELIBERATELY cashed out and terminated any interest they had here AT A LOSS . . . and it cost Joe at the corner HIS JOB!! So stop hating and let the man do what McCain and frankly very few are equipped to do: be a true ambassador of goodwill to the rest of the world! He Cannot make changes until he becomes president . . . but he can do a lot of good using his popularity overseas to improve America's image! WHY IS THAT A BAD THING PEOPLE!!!???

Wow! We are bunch of selfish, xenophobic people!

The world does not does not revolve around us! Newsflash: We actually need to be liked by the most of the world in order to be really safe. How can we call people our allies like we do Britain and France when the people there despise GW?

Obama is saying: Look, there is still unlimited good in America, the people of this country are some of the warmest in the world! We have as a country a lot more to offer the world . . . towards the common good."

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT MESSAGE??!!

Oh and First Read tell Andrea Mitchell to chill out!

Hey Chuck from Response #1: You are 100% right

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Steve NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:49:51 GMT

Chuck NY

I AGREE 100% ! I could not have put it better myself !

Chuck Todd
"The election will be a referendum on Obama." Really ?
What about 8 years of George Bush? Dick Cheney? Don Rumsfeld?

I'm confused.

Morning Joe is still unwatchable !

Andrea Mitchell .. I hope you got over being snubbed for the Obama interview. No more bitterness please !

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Nicole — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:50 GMT

I don't get it! Urgh! Watching Morning Joe just infuriates me. Why does Joe Scarborough think he's more knowledgeable about the situation in Iraq then Wesley Clark? He pretty much said this morning that everyone who didn't take his view on how the "surge" was so successful in Iraq is an idiot. Really Joe? He is SO condescending! I really can't believe Mika sits there and talks his crap every morning. She's so weak! I agree with someone who said yesterday that they need someone like Rachel Maddow in there who would go toe to toe with Joe and his bull****! It's like watching a train wreck. I want to turn it off because he makes me so mad but I need to see the garbage he's spewing next. Urgh!!!

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:51:46 GMT

McCain is holding on to his reputation as a national security and foreign policy expert only because the media is protecting him from his own words, which if highlighted would certainly undercut that view.

Why the media is doing this is an interesting question. Is it because they can't deal with pieces of information that don't conform to their pre-conceived notions? Is it because a close race is in their business interests?

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Jasper Zewigler Jr - Montco , Pennsylvania — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:52:02 GMT

Getting away from polls and B.O's overseas trip. It is Obama's election to win because of McCain's silly acclaim to color him embraceable and stupid correspondence - lol

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Curious George — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:52:31 GMT

It is extremely frustrating to hear disparaging remarks from Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews that Barack is cocky
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Did it ever occur to you that that's their honest take on things? You don't have a problem when these folks disparage McCain. So why is it a problem when they honestly report their take on Obama? And please, don't refer to Olbermann as a 'supposed expert'; he's utterly incapable of reporting things fairly. You might agree with him as I suspect most posters on here do, but there's no way a candidate is 100% perfect all of the time as he touts Obama as being, and there's no way a candidate is 100% wrong all of the time the way he portrays McCain.

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Linda. Boston, MA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:53:20 GMT

"Didn't the numbers including ALL the candidates (Bob Barr and Ralph Nader) show Senator Obama with a double digit lead of 13%? Why no mention of that result since these candidates ARE actually going to be on the ballot?"
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Because they want it to be close. They want a horse-race. A 13 point blowout gives them nothing to yap about. Not to mention the fact that it's foolish to expect his overseas visit to be reflected in the polls at this point. After his speech in Berlin, after he meets with England's leaders, and after he give his press-conference upon returning state-side - then you'll start to see the effect of his trip on the polls. Chuck should know by now that the polls are always a few days behind in how they reflect reaction to current events.

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:53:30 GMT

"It’s the economy, dumba$$: No longer does the phrase “It’s the economy, stupid” suffice. We need more of an expletive to drive home the point how central the economy is to this presidential election."

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Where can I get that printed on a T-shirt? Hope they're reading this over at Obama Campaign HQ...better start making the signs so there's plenty enough to go around in Denver. This pretty much sums it all up!

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Ron Indiana — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:53:41 GMT

I would like to support Chuck, NY comments that it is time to stop calling the next POTUS "Cocky" It does not serve you well. Andrea Mitchell called him "Cocky" and it really looks unprofessional. No other news outlet it using that word. Confident works.
While I'm at it, Huffington Post commented that David Gregory is a "lame duck". Now, in my humble opinion he does not have the horsepower of Chuck Todd,but he basically works hard and does rather well. Some unsolicited advise, Dump Joe and Pat (as you have with Tucker), put in David in the AM, and consider Rachel for the 6:00 spot. Now I will stop being so presumptive. I assume MSNBC will be covering Barack speech today?

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Fox Hound — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:54:21 GMT

What a dweeb Obama is. Fox news has it ratings because they are fair and balanced. Fox targets main stream America. msnbc on the other hand is 100% radical left wing. Results, 5-1 advantage for Fox in the ratings. But Obama agrees with everything nbc says. No surprise there. Ever watch O'Reilly? He blasts as many Republicans as he does Democrats. O'Reilly devotes maybe half his show to politics, with the other half going to non-political stories. Olbermann and Matthews are 100% political, and 100% bash the conservatives. Boring.

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Beth — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:54:51 GMT

But Fox is news, 24 hours a day. Obama better just get used to it.

jerry/corpus christi texas

You're kidding me right? News, 24 hours a day? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Steve, Glendale, CA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:56:34 GMT

Chuck Todd ... your results on countdown last night from the poll dont add up ... two of your results on screen totalled 105% with a MOE of 3.1%.

One was Obama 60% and McCain 45%, MOE 3.1%
The other was McCain 58% and Obama 47% with a MOE 3.1%

Am I missing something here? If not, its hard to take your poll seriously.

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old lady for Obama - WI — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:02 GMT

does anyone know if chuckie T's wife works for McCains' campaign? I thought that I heard or read this somewhere. If that's true, it explains ALOT about what gets written and reported here at FR.

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Tax My Gas — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:26 GMT

See the story where Democratic convention leaders in Denver were filling up at the cities pumps? They did pay for the gas, but the local government pumps don't charge tax on the gas, about a 0.40/gal savings. Nice. So the Democrats get gas tax holiday, but the rest of us common folks need to pay the tax.

The Democrats tried their old standby story of "The Republicans do it too!". But a quick check in Minniapolis showed the Republicans are paying the tax.

Democrats are the biggest hypocrits.

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L - MI — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:34 GMT

"McCain is in the battleground of Ohio, where he raises money and then attends a town hall in the evening with Lance Armstrong..."

Are they going to "hang"?

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Nashville_fan — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:34 GMT

Great post Chuck, NY!

*wipes Sunchip crumbs on pants*

So I try not to watch Morning Joke as much as possible, I really do. But I slipped up this morning and saw it - and yes it was just as bad as I remembered - with the exception that Harold Ford wasn't there (YAY!). Anywho, just a short point.

Barack Obama does not need to "admit he was wrong" about "the surge" (as Joe and the Joe-ettes were claiming this morning), because he was not wrong. We never should have invaded Iraq. If we were going to invade Iraq, we should have went in with OVERWHELMING force, not overwhelming rhetoric.

No amount of repeating of THIS LIE by the media is going to change the facts!

America is a representative democracy (allegedly). Barack Obama is there to represent the people of his district - who want out of Iraq.

The MAJORITY of the American people want OUT of Iraq. The American people have VOTED to get out of Iraq. The Bush Adminsitration, with the support of John McCain said "SO."

When General Shinseki said we needed a larger invasion force, Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush said "SO".

When Barack Obama said we have taken our ball of Al Quaeda in Afghanistan by putting so much emphasis on Iraq, George Bush and John McCain said "SO."

When John McCain said the surge LED to the Anbar Awakening (which is NOT TRUE), the media said "SO."

WE THE PEOPLE are DEMANDING to be heard - you cannot change the subject. You cannot change the facts. You cannot rewrite history.

Senator Obama was and is VINDICATED.

The media, George Bush, and John McCain are GUILTY AS CHARGED.

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Judy Ovilla TX — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:41 GMT

Joe Scarborough is "da** disgrace"!!! I can't believe NBC/MSNBC allows him to have a show. God, he's worst that Tucker!! He doesn't read to be informed and is rude besides. Then he gets mad when "his audience" complains. He is so "envious" of Barak Obama that he can't stand himself. Dude go back to school;learn how to be "articulate" and get a "jumpshot".
As for Angela Mitchell, I counted 8 complaints about her on FR yesterday. She is a McCain supporter. She is both jealous of Obama and the fact that she is not being given the exclusives on Obama.

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MR — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:41 GMT

I THINK IT IS SAD THAT SO MANY AMERICAN WHITE PEOPLE ARE SO INSECURE WITH THE NOTION THAT A BLACK MAN MIGHT POSSIBLY BE MORE EDUCATED, MORE ARTICULATE AND HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WORLD ISSUES THAN A WHITE MAN WHO WAS A POW.

HERE'S A CLUE...THERE ARE SOME VERY EDUCATED, POWERFUL BLACK PEOPLE WHO RUN CORPORATIONS, RAISE HAPPY AND RESPONSIBLY FAMILIES, AND CAN ARTICULATE THOUGHT OUTSIDE OF THE BELOW 80 IQ GROUP.

THIS IS A TIME IN OUR HISTORY THAT YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF. THE COUNTRY HAS COME A LONG WAY. IGNORANCE AND LOW-INFORMATION VOTERS HAVE HAD THEIR 7 PLUS YEARS OF THEIR CHOICE, WITH BUSH.

MAYBE IT IS TIME TO ALLOW MORE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE TO HELP SHAKE THE FUTURE IN THIS COUNTRY.

TAKE ON CHANCE ON INTELLIGENCE...IT MAY MAKE YOU WANT TO BE A BETTER PERSON.

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Sally — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:00:13 GMT

Jerry in Corpus, do you still have a roof? How is it down there?

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Brian M De. — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:00:59 GMT

First of all to you mentally challenged people crying about the media coverage difference between the candidates . I say this. Be glad because McCain does not have a clue on reality and has been caught in more outright lies than you can shake a stick at.Then people cry about the love affair over Obama , yeah I bet he felt love over 3 weeks of continued coverage of Rev. Wright and weeks apon end of the Bitter statement. Yeah the media is trully in his favor there. It is so funny how McCain doesn't get scrutinized like Obama. I do admit that yes Obama has recieved a lot more interest this week.That is the fault of McCain if he had not made the challenge it might not have drawn this much attention. Now for a little bit of sad truth . Imagine if you will I am trying not to but have a warped sense of humor. John McCain as a life guard on Baywatch or Barrack Obama as a lifeguard on Baywatch. Which show do you think would have the better ratings ? Ratings sell so sorry Charlie only good tasting tuna gets to be StarKist.

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Chuck, NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:02:17 GMT

Jerry... conservatism is global plague.

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What's the plan Obama? — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:02:41 GMT

Recession? Nope. Gas prices? Coming down. Iraq? In final clean up mode. And Obama is going to do what again?

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denise, Tampa, FL — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:03:54 GMT

McCAINT has pissed away all of his advantage. He had the stage after he tied up his party's nominee and instead of making a great Presidential debut, he confused (and confused and confused) Sunni/Shia/Al Queda until he began looking like LIEberman's ventriliquists' dummy...now, instead of taking advantage of having America to himself to spread his message, he has instead spred his crap disparaging Obama at every turn....if there is doubt about a candidates stand on issues, it has to McAINT's cause he hasn't said one clarifying statement yet on his fix for this country.

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MI Chick — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:06:32 GMT

"Fox News is the number one news channel, so naturally it is everywhere, even on Armed Forces TV. "

#1? On what planet? Maybe it's #1 in Texas, but I don't think that it is everywhere, Jer.

If liberalism is not a "disease" - it's the cure to the scurge that is neoconservatism.

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jo, baltimore, md — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:07:20 GMT

"Liberalism is a disease."

So is Jerry.

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C.K. Steele Fort Lauderdale, FL — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:07:37 GMT

Everyday as this historic election continues, my opinion of our media has diminished. I first attributed my disdain for the media (AKA "The Beast") to a blatant dishonesty, cowardice, and partisanship. Now I'm truly noticing a pattern of incompetence. When REAL experts on a subject appear on a subject (such as Dr. Brzezinski and to a much smaller extent, Gen. Clark) it has been shown that the punditocracy really knows nothing. I went back last night and watched those two experts on Morning Joe and it was apparent that Joe (much like most of our lazy media) only was armed with flimsy talking points while these two interviewees had a deeper, more sophisticated knowledge of the subjects. I can place a safe bet that most of our media talking heads have known nothing of the complexities of Saudia Arabian involvement with the Sunni tribes and what the "Awakening" really was. The only pluses from this foolish "the surge was right" storyline is that more regular people are at least seeing the nuance and other contributing factors of our current situation in the Middle East and that Sen. McCain only has a very simplistic view of foreign policy.

The CW this election cycle has been wrong so often because the fact is that our press doesn't do any individual research. I now believe that many in our press don't understand the Constitution and the powers granted to the President. They take offense when Sen. Obama (and some of his surrogates) bring it to their attention that Gen. Petraeus does not outrank the President and call him 'cocky'. Sen. McCain is believed to have experience because he tells good war stories and has white hair. Listen carefully to the Senator from Arizona when he speaks about issues such as Iranian relations, Afghanistan, or Israel-Palestinian conflict. Everything is barbaric and simplified to a point where he says, "Them bad, us good, we must fight!" Sounds just like Bush and his "Axis of Evil". McCain can't give a sophisticated explanation of these matters because the truth is that he doesn't know, he's only just spent a lot of time in Washington instead of actual learning. McCain only has foreign policy gravitas because the media says so. If the media knew anything about foreign policy then they would see that (McCain) the emperor has no clothes.

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Christoph, Berlin — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:09:07 GMT

That Hasselhoff reference is an insult to us Germans.

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:09:39 GMT

Finally, does anyone else think McCain is losing it; both mentally and emotionally?

Chuck, NY (Sent Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:28 AM)

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In a word...yes. Its scary to think that in his first term, McCain would be 73. He would be scratching 80 at the end of his last term. Sorry, but I don't think anyone that age is capable of handling the stress of being president. Just compare Clinton and Bush, both relatively young in their first term, to what they looked like at the end of their last terms...they aged 20 years in only 8! What will happen to McCain? He'll be a walking dementia stricken corpse. How can anyone with half a brain [which is being generous to republicans] claim he's presidential material is beyond me!

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CJ — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:09:55 GMT

Chuck Todd while I understand your conclusions and I agree with them for the most part, I think the dynamics of the race are changing in regards to McCain. Seeing McCain's campaign essentially implode over the past two weeks gave me insight into real problems the candidate may have. In fact I'm beginning to wonder is he really as qualified to be POTUS...has his candidacy an act at this point? He has proposed scant policy, spend 90% of his time slamming Obama, and instead of seperating...has further embraced Bush. Is he indifferent, does he not have fresh ideas, is he essentially "too old" to care about getting this country off of it's wrong track. These seeds have began to plant themselves in my mind and I think voters may began to re-evaluate McCain as well. After seeing Obama move across the world and meet with leaders with ease..it's obvious he is capable of getting them on his side; earning their admiration and respect. Could McCain even muster that much support abroad? Are these "gaffes" showing a real lack of knowledge on McCain's part? These are real questions I would like the media to begin asking. No more covering up and kid-gloves for McCain.

Please consider this Chuck, Murray.

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Michael — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:10:11 GMT

The poll is still a lagging indicator. It was finished on Monday, and most of it was conducted while the debate was going on as to whether or not Maliki supported a withdrawal timetable similar to Obama or not, which wasn't resolved until Monday. I'd wait until a poll conducted completely after his return to the US, and one specifically looking for a shift in the "commander-in-chief" question, to make judgments on the impact of the trip.

As to the overall number, I'd wait a week or so after that. My guess is Obama wants to use this trip to put the foreign policy question to rest, then pivot on returning home squarely to the economy, which will be the focus from tonight until the convention. That's the isue people care most about right now, and Obama hasn't touched it since he's been overseas. Shoring up his qualifications as CC are the priority right now, then a one-two economic puch next week is when people inclined to vote D but withholding judgment will come around.

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Mark Murray — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:10:22 GMT

Old Lady for Obama -- Chuck's wife is a Democratic strategist, who most recently worked for Jim Webb's campaign. Thanks for posting.

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J. Ellis, Virginia — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:10:37 GMT

The lastest polling numbers could be frustrating but I think everyone knows why Sen. Obama is struggling to "close the deal." There are still deep prejudices toward Obama despite the fact that he has opened up his life to us far more than any other candidate has ever done.

He has demonstrated none of the things that many people prefer to fear about him. He is a Christian but McCain could be a Warlock and nobody would seem to mind. Obama has experience outside of the Beltway, but Sen. McCain is preferred because he's been a Washington insider for 40 years and with precious little to show for it, I might add. Sen. Obama has articulated his opposition to the war in Iraq when it was political suicide to do so. John McCain is Mr. War personified, dredging up his POW status at every opportunity. This gives him no better qualifications to lead our country or to win a war that has long been lost already.

If McCain's pitiful campaign is any indication of his skill to be President, then Heaven help us because he won't remember where Pennsylvania Ave is come the fall.

So, this is Obama's election to win? I'm grateful for that because he has stepped up to every challenge and surpassed every expectation. He has been on the world's stage this week and has proven what a great President and leader he would be despite McCain throwing tomatoes at him every single day.

GOD BLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA AND GOD BLESS AMERICA

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The - Democrat Soldier — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:12:13 GMT

FR - I am questioning your polling techniques and who you people poll.

The numbers don't seem to match the excitement I read about all day on other blogs, phone calls, networks - here in PA.

When I talk to my friends in VA, GA, TN, LA, NY, NJ,NC,SC,AL, MS,OH, military buddies overseas there a movement of gigantic porportions and many, many people that are voting for Barack Obama and change.

I strongly suggest that you guys start explaining not just the numbers - but where, who and how you get them.

Because these numbers can not be true representation of how most Americans feel and who they want for President.

This polling business is really starting to be annoying and unbelievable.

It even seem contradictory - how can there be 60% excitement for Barack Obama - but yet he has a 6 point lead.

Boy do we really need Tim back - to get the math right.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:13:05 GMT

Jerry, you say liberalism is a disease? I say, you are like a bad case of herpes on top of a worse case of gen. warts!

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balthus, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:13:10 GMT

NBC is baaaaack, with the same "tight race" spin they used to pump up their ratings during the Dem primary.

Here's where the race really stands:

Obama is leading in 11 of the 12 swing states that were decided by a margin of five points or less in 2004 including five of the six that were carried by George Bush. And while Obama has a comfortable lead in every state that John Kerry won by a margin of more than five points in 2004, McCain is in a difficult battle in a number of states that Bush carried by a margin of more than five points including such solidly red states as Indiana, Montana, North Dakota, Virginia, and North Carolina.

While no election outcome is guaranteed and McCain's prospects could improve over the next three and a half months, virtually all of the evidence -- historical patterns, structural features of this election cycle, and national and state polls conducted over the last several months -- point to a comfortable Obama/Democratic party victory in November.

Trumpeting this race as a toss-up, almost certain to produce another nail-biter finish, distorts the evidence and does a disservice to readers and viewers who rely upon such punditry.

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MK,MO — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:13:20 GMT

I think all the wealthy east coast pundits are afraid that they may have to pay their fair share of taxes if obama wins. like everything else in this country "it’s all about the money". the republicans have turned this country into a haven for the wealthy at the poors expense, a wage earner can't hide any of their money form the irs, can't take many frivolous deductions when you can't make the deduction threshold. the tax system has been messaged by the republican elitists to favor the republican elitists, what they hide and write off the wage earner makes up, investment returns are not treated as income, and the money from those investmates that used to mean new jobs and facilities in the u.s. now is used to build facilities outside the country, the return on those investments should be taxed at about 100% unless it can be proven that said investmates help u.s. workers. the american worker used to have employer provided benefits, now in an effort to get the investors more return those benefits are gone, and the good republican party thinks that only the wealthy are entitled to healthcare and a dignified retirement. the great republican farce has turned the greatest nation on earth into nothing but a memory for most, this will not stand.
so you pundits continue your assault on obama even though you know that he is the only choice when it comes to what is truly best for the country as a whole, clinch your fists full of money and grit your teeth while making disingenuous comments about obama, change is inevitable get used to the idea.

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Tom, Winston-Salem, NC — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:13:28 GMT

I find it quite un-newsworthy that your poll shows no indication of a trip-abroad bounce for Obama. Polls taken before events occur generally have no reflection of the events.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:14:57 GMT

Running radio ads in every U.S. town they could find named Berlin sounds a little childish.

It sounds like a little kid with a little plastic briefcase pretending he's heading off the office like dad. Whoever came up with that idea should be relegated to working phone banks or something.

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Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:17:03 GMT

culturethreads.com has the latest on McCain's huge gaffe about the Sunni Awakening, which is still getting worse! Must read.....

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McToady — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:18:01 GMT

"Jerry in Corpus, do you still have a roof? How is it down there? "

He's sitting in the RNC offices in Washington, how the hell does he know what is happening in Texas.

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chris — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:18:11 GMT

Is it just me or is McCain's campagin being to look like Hillary's last couple of months?

Kitchen sink?

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CJ — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:18:41 GMT

I agree that MSNBC should stop using the word "Cocky". It actually comes across as offensive given it's connotation. Confident or self-assured would suffice. You could easily say the same of John McCain who speaks miss-truths as if they were absolute fact. Given his slandering of Obama about losing the war...that is the most outrageous display of arrogance I've seen from a candidate.

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sotiredofignorance — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:18:48 GMT

I will never understand how MSNBC had Tim Russert, but also allows air time to that idiot, Joe Scarborough. Do you have no pride at all? It is unwatchable, and so by the way is Andrea Mitchell.

As for Fox being News? Isn't that an oxymoron?

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Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:20:03 GMT

FIRST READ: Here's a point I haven't heard in the press which I think is a good one:

McCain and his surrogates sure are making a lot of extreme comments about Obama's youth and inexperience. So, what if McCain picks a running mate that is about Obama's age or younger, and/or has little foreign policy experience (Jindal, Pawlenty)? Won't McCain's words be instantly thrown back at him? Especially for someone McCain's age, the VP has to be someone that is ready to be president. What if the VP has never been to Iraq or Afghanistan? Or Germany? And how well is the "shifting positions" line of attack gonna play is Romney is the choice?

It seems to me Obama is seting a huge trap for himself by allowing himself and his surrogates to come on so strong about Obama's age and time in government, etc.

see more of this from culturethreads.com

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Baltimore_Fan, Balt, Md — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:20:31 GMT

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY
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It's only six points because no matter what some people just will never vote for an African American to be in the white house and that's the bottom line. They can say all they want that he should be more then six points ahead or this or that. But the only reason he has not blown Mccain out of the water is for every two steps he takes forward or prove them wrong they find something or somebody to pushes him back four steps with the BS, the lies and false half truth that Fox and other news be kicking. Talk about fair and balance.

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Walt, Ohio — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:21:56 GMT

Fox News is the number one news channel, so naturally it is everywhere, even on Armed Forces TV. IF MSNBC would show the news instead of porn captures and life behind bars, maybe they could challenge them. But Fox is news, 24 hours a day. Obama better just get used to it....

...If the economy is the number one issue, why is Obama over in Europe? I think the economy is just a blown up liberalized media issue. Judging from the thousands of people at the Amusement parks in San Antonio over the weekend and watching one guy eating three $8.00 turkey legs, there is no such thing as a bad economy. Just more trumped up liberal hogwash.

Of course, that will all change if Obama and his liberal friends have their way about it. More job losses and more misery for ordinary Americans, but the Liberal congress could care less.

Liberalism is a disease.

jerry/corpus christi texas
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The problem with folks like the hapless hopelessly misguided jerry is that they are trying to use the same old repug fearmongering "evul librul" talking points that was effectively used by Bush/Cheney/McSame over the last 7 years.
There are two types of neocons. There are the types who are enormously or pretend that they are. In order to maintain that wealth or power, they will sacrifice anything and everything (armed forces lives, American jobs, reasonable health care) just to maintain their way of life. They are keenly aware that this election is about maintaining a lifestyle based on the major economic commodities like oil, and ability of an oil based economy to maintain their wealth. There are offshoots of this philosophy: the removal of Saddam Hussein to allow the major oil companies to confiscate Iraqi oil; the prevalence of lobbyist access to preserve nefarious interests for personal enrichment; the disdain for global warming, the fear of alternative energy choices, the lack of concern and the advocation of job outsourcing to foreign companies for shareholder profit; the utter lack of concern for affordable healthcare, thereby enriching the insurance companies, and the lack of concern for the current housing situation.
The second type of "pseudo" neocons are represented by the uneducated, uninformed gullible people who spout the rhetoric that "Obama is a Turrist/Muslim/fist pumping/bogeyman who is goin to send all our money to Africa!". These sad individuals are easy prey for the neocon fear mongers. The neocons know that they can play on inherent fears of these mentally challenged individuals, and get them stirred up enough to post on these blogs very racist biased opinions that are downright lies. The neocons then can sit back and laugh at how they manipulated the witless; thereby insuring that the Bush/McCain demagoguery continues. That has been the formula for 2000, and 2004 elections; I suspect it will go into overdrive.
The so called "PUMAs", "Operation Chaos" supporters supporting this attempt to prop up Hillary (Hillary will not effectively distance herself from this because of her personal narcissism) are further attempts to maintain power for the neocons.
Obviously biased reporting (Faux noise, C(more)BS with Katie Couric, Andrea Mitchell, George Stephanopolos and others have a stake in the status quo; hence their biased reporting.
The solution to this continual quagmire of BS is to speak out and challenge these neocon fearmongers at every turn.
Our country is at stake We have the truth on our side. We must not let Bush/Cheney/McCain win again.

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donna — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:22:45 GMT

*** Going for the gold: The AP writes, "Barack Obama is going for the gold. He has decided to buy $5 million in national advertising on NBC during the broadcast of the Olympic games. The ads will appear on network and cable channels. The ad purchase was first reported yesterday on the website of Advertising Age, a magazine that covers the industry."

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What a fabulous prospect. The enjoyment of Olympic excitment, with Obama ads sandwiched in. What an aewsome buy for the dems.

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Diane from Illinois — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:23:18 GMT

Nicole,

I stopped watching ALL news from MSNBC months ago. Can't stand Scarborough and Mika's bowing down to him sends woman BACK about 100 years. Sounds like Andrea Mitchell is continuing her "I'm bitter because Hillary didn't win" fest in her reporting, too. NOT one single reporter on MSNBC gives a fair and balanced report. They think you want THEIR opinions on the candidates. Even Keith. EVERYONE knows he supports Obama; therefore they agree with whatever he says. But is that FAIR and BALANCED reporting? No. It is not. No one just gives you the facts and let's you make up your own minds. Look at how CBS covered-up (once again) for Telfon John. Doesn't the public NEED to know this man is senile and can't keep his stories straight? In 2004, the media help elect George W Bush. Are we going to let that happen again this year? I sure hope not. McCain is getting more and more desperate by the day.....I'm sure we'll be seeing Rev. Wright emerge, again, very soon. What else does the GOP have? Not much....including a candidate.

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Nashville_fan — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:23:44 GMT

To C.K. Steele Fort Lauderdale, FL:

*Stands and applauds!*

Your post was magnificent - and so true!

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Matthew — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:24:08 GMT

"Clara" from earlier . . .

I think the number is something like 16 BILLION and counting that we just "don't know" or "Can't Account for"

WHY IS McCain getting a pass for this, MSM, FIRST READ!!???

WTF IS GOING ON WITH THE PRESS IN THIS PLACE???

Andrea Mitchell is pissed that she didn't get a chance to try and trap Obama into saying that the surge has worked, to again brand him a flip flopper, your favorite narrative, while ignoring the very telling, enthusiastic, reception that Obama is getting from the troops, the generals(Patreus too) and other foreign dignitaries and leaders!

Abdullah PERSONALLY drove Obama to the airport for crying out loud!! Why no speculation or even mention of THAT Andrea!? Did McCain get that sort of Reception, did Bush, Did even Bill???

But no you want to gripe about not getting the access that you wanted so you can ask him your preconceived, narrative-upholding questions!! There is plenty to report. But You guys want to define Obama the way YOU want to!

You don't respect the American people enough to make up their own minds!

Shame on you Andrea! Shame on you Chuck Todd!

The Only people doing SOMETHING in the way of responsible reporting is Kieth Olberman, Sometimes Chris Matthews and Dan Abrams!

What is wrong with you guys at MSNBC!!! Tim's Gone and now everything is going to crap!

Wow!

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dragonfly777 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:25:23 GMT

Obama is a lair plain and simple. He treats the Presidential election like a Disney Land attraction and while it appears fun ,in the end it is only make believe. He lies to the Jews (who his church preaches hate of), he lies to whites(whom his church of 20 years preaches hate of), he lies to women about making them equal (but calls a professional reporter sweetie, didn't call a man sweetie), lies about his votes as Senator said he pulled the switch wrong SIXTIMES!) He lies to black men about being responsible, (but let his opening number call women "HOs", He lies to the people about their welfare, (but he calls people ignorant (especially those who don't agree with him) white gun toting religious cling, anti-immigration. He lies about race shouldn't matter, but his minions call everyone a racist who again doesn't buy into his rhetoric, He lies about promises he can't keep.

He tries to steal the Presidential Seal as if it were his own and replace it with his own name. He calls for unity, but incites hatred of his followers for anyone not buying into his garbage. Just look at the above.

He uses Reverend Wright tactics to incite hattres and eventually violence to those who won't agree with him.

This is the core of the man and his beliefs, which is to only control of the masses so that they may heap Godlike praise upon him.

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Jamie, Elmwood Park, IL — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:25:37 GMT

Linda, Boston: I couldn't agree with you more. I believe that's why they're always asking "why isn't Obama ahead by more" instead of asking why, with his name recognition, years in the Senate, pow story, etc., isn't he ahead. I still believe that race plays a role in these polls and if Obama were Caucasian, this contest wouldn't even be close.

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You wouldn't know a "plan" from a "fact" — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:26:51 GMT

"Recession? Nope. Gas prices? Coming down. Iraq? In final clean up mode. And Obama is going to do what again? "

How did "reality avoidance" become the right wings most valuable asset?

I guess when the auto makers cut jobs and pensions it's the sign of prosperty?

Gas has gone down 5 cents after rising $3.

I believe it was MISSION ACCOMPLISHED several years ago.

You weren't one of Rove's better students, were you?

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BL, Cincinnati OH — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:27:35 GMT

does anyone know if chuckie T's wife works for McCains' campaign? I thought that I heard or read this somewhere. If that's true, it explains ALOT about what gets written and reported here at FR.
old lady for Obama - WI (Sent Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:59 AM)

Don't believe everything you read here from bloggers. Chuck Todd's wife is NOT working for McCain. She works for a Democratic firm (found with a quick google):

"Kristian Denny Todd is a seasoned communications professional and a veteran of numerous successful Democratic campaigns. She recently served as Senior Communications Strategist to U.S. Senator Jim Webb’s 2006 victory in Virginia where she directed all earned and paid media strategy on behalf of the candidate. Webb’s victory tipped the control of the U.S. Senate back to the Democrats. She joined Steve Jarding and Jessica Vanden Berg in creating Maverick Strategies and Mail providing direct mail and consulting services for Democratic candidates and progressive causes."

http://www.maverickstrat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2&Itemid=5

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Jaycee — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:28:26 GMT

In the fall, the kiddies and the lefties will all be left with their mouths hanging open as mainstream America makes its choice known: McCain is the new President. And the Europeans will have to wait for the next socialist darling to come along to pin their hopes of weakening the U.S. on.

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MK,MO — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:28:28 GMT

dear first read,
I have been a poster on your site for sometime and it saddens me that your censorship no longer is for offensive commentary but ideology that differs from your own, please think about returning to a less manipulated format, it's much more entertaining, and no one likes going to the trouble of submitting a post when they know it will be rejected because it's not an ideological "fit", I mean that's the whole point, get different perspectives on the issues, right?