McCain vs. Obama: Getting religion

Dan Wilkens, Hubert, Texas — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:26:18 GMT

With these kinds of numbers, it is probably now safe to let Reverend Wright out of his safe house.

McCain vs. Obama: Getting religion

Bruce Oregon — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:32:34 GMT

Perhaps evangelicals will come to realize that Mr. McCain has a problem with at least one of the Ten Commandments: Thou shalt not lie. The one about adultery might cause them some concern as well.

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camie — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:33:28 GMT

Obama is definitely going to win, because Obama is more open talking about his religion. I never hear mccain mention his religion, Matter of fact earlier during the republican primary he actually either forgot or lied about what his religion was, so I think Obama has this in the bag.

Devastating McCain Video
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/devastating-mccain-video/
or
http://sensico2.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-blogs.html

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Major Minor — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:37:16 GMT

Its because evangelicals typically are not free thinkers that they can line up behind the party line like lemmings running off the proverbial cliff.

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Nashville_fan — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:42:42 GMT

"A new poll by the Barna Group shows Obama leading McCain among all faith groups – except for evangelicals. “For the most part, the various faith communities of the U.S. currently support Sen. Obama for the presidency. "
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You mean there are other types of Christians OTHER than evangelicals?

Who knew?

lol

P.S. Does this mean that John McCain can stop sucking up to evangelicals now, or will he need to suck up more than ever?

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:43:38 GMT

How can McCain and Obama both be losing support among evangelicals? Are these people looking at a third party, or just not voting?

Regarding Olympic ads, of course McCain's are negative. He's a negative guy. But as to why the ads aren't causing an uproar, how many Olympics viewers do you think are paying attention to the political ads between beach volleyball games?

I think for most people the campaigns are just background noise right now. Let's get through the conventions and give people a chance to get their kids settled into the school year, then you'll have their attention.

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Gail, TN — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:44:16 GMT

Obama leading among faith groups - except for evangelicals? More proof that grace and mercy will overcome legalism and judgement every time.

McCain's negative ads may work in the short term, but in the long run they will hurt him because they offer nothing of substance.

Can't wait to see the Saturday Smackdown at Saddleback Church!

Team Obama '08

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Amy B Portland, ME — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:47:02 GMT

I wouldn't pay Evan Tracey any bonuses this quarter, as his comment that the negative ads are working is ridiculous. Teach the man how to find YouTube. 1)Obama has been ridiculed from Day One, people are used to it. 2)Fter Bush, the American people want positive, ethical leadership. Obama projects that constantly and reinforces it with positive ads. Jeepers I could be a media analyist!

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Rodney Hopper, Waxahachie, TX — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:49:01 GMT

During this whole notion that 'McCain's negative ads are paying off', has anybody noticed that Obama has seemed to regain his footing while these have been aired?

McCain had essentially closed the gap in many polls, but we're now back to a 5%-7% Obama lead.

Maybe McCain should, I dunno, litter his ads with facts? It's too early to start lying to people. You should save that for October so they won't have time to do research.

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Tzalaran — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:50:49 GMT

for any religious person to back the warhawk in this campaign would be a travesty. His pro war, misguided belief in his own security credentials, and inability to articulate thoughts that aren't shoved down his throat by the same puppet masters who set up the current administration are fundamentally in opposition to the tenets of most religions.

it is time that we had a president who would look to discussion and compromise on international disagreements instead of hovering their hand over the red button as an empty threat. Our honor and integrity as a nation has been pushed through the mud because of the leaders we have elected, and it is time to earn back the global respect we had 30 years ago.

McBombBombBomb will never be able to accomplish that.

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Pete - Albany, NY — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:51:13 GMT

Have you noticed that during these Olympics (on, shameless plug, NBC) that both candidates are running ads? But they are distinctly different in tone -- McCain's is negative; Obama's is forward-looking. "Evan Tracey of the Campaign Media Analysis Group suggests that McCain's strategy is risky but could pay off. 'They're using a gigantic stage to make their national case against Obama,' he told USA Today. 'It doesn't seem to be causing any uproar. They may have guessed right.'"

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What a shame that John McCain has nothing good to say about himself.

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Clara Kansas City, MO — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:52:11 GMT

Gail, that's funny -

I am not expecting a smackdown, more a subtle plug.

Anyone else noticing that FR is recycling the same 3-4 stories each day? I am guessing a bunch of people are either in Beijing or on vacation. Oh well,...

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banko — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:54:02 GMT

McCain has no family values period.
The wife U.S. Republican John McCain callously left behind
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

John Mccain Adulterer Homewrecker dishonest cheater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10XBa-uIGOc

McBush on video: I graduated fifth from the bottom of my class
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/15/71627/9057/396/551853

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MK,MO — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:59:56 GMT

How could any self proclaimed "religious" person vote for Mccain considering he has lived his life as a heathen.

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Lauri Smalls, Providene, RI — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:00:06 GMT

I am a Christian -- and I always thought it was weird that "Evangelicals" do not seem to exercise the gift of Free- Will given by God - they seemed to be led like a big pen of sheep by whatever leader told them however to vote -- nuts -- I am so glad these numbers came out and yeah - Nashville_Fan that remark says it all -- good grief...come on - their strangle hold on the country is over --- AMEN! - I suppose James Dobson's going to come out and say something ridiculous about Rick Warren --

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Michelle Zee — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:00:25 GMT

Bruce Oregon (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:32 AM)

Good one. Very interesting to see how the evangelist's will view MCCain's affair and not sticking with her for better or worse.

I am sure many were not voting for Obama anyway, so they throw in the line of "forgiveness". Phony christians beating people over the head with bibles and have ill will in their hearts.

I have rarely heard McAdulterer mention anything about religion, but I will be listening this weekend. I can hear it now, McAdulterer pushing the abortion issue of pro-life and Obama having to make a complete 360 degree forum on multiple issues and still not be accepted by the phony christians. Oh give me a break, I am passed people hiding behind religion and giving others the what for! Whatever!

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NObama — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:01:36 GMT

Perhaps evangelicals will come to realize that Mr. McCain has a problem with at least one of the Ten Commandments: Thou shalt not lie. The one about adultery might cause them some concern as well.
Bruce Oregon (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:32 AM)

Well, Bruce, Obama has told a few whoppers himself (i.e.,I never heard anything controversial in that church.) And, some evangelicals might have a problem with murder, too. When a child survived an abortion, it was thrown in a pile of dirty linens to die. A nurse found the baby and held it for 45 minutes until it's death. Obama voted since the mother wanted it dead, it was really only a fetus and not a human being. And, this is the man that will "respect" the rights of all people?

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Diane from Illinois — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:02:22 GMT

Evangelicals are like the Jim Jones people who all line up and do whatever they're told. Let's not forget the overwhelming support for Bush, the drunk that "got" religion and was "bron again". Geesh! Guess evangelicals can close their eyes to McCain's treatment of his first wife, too; AND all his lies. Geesh, doesn't that go against at least 2 or 3 of the Ten Commandments???? How do they justify THAT?

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Ron Indiana — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:04:17 GMT

True: The Obama Olympic ad is forward thinking. True: The McOld ad is negative. The reason is there is no uproar is because people are watching Phelps swim for gold in the Olympics and seeing an American win. But Americans know John is negative and the negative ads have no substance. The polls have been steady for over two weeks with Obama enjoying a 5 point lead.
fivethirtyeight is showing an electoray vote of Obama 299 with McCain 238. Obama will hit 50% McCain may not hit 45%. And that's the way it is. says Walter Chronkite.

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A Charles, LA, CA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:07:30 GMT

Obama's problem is these groups only need to see 1 abortion ad and they forget all about the economy & the lies that led us to war.

The downfall of the American empire will come at the hands of high school educated pastors who led the sheep.

If Obama loses time to sign up for those Chinese classes.

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Jeff D Evanston IL. — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:08:40 GMT

With these kinds of numbers, it is probably now safe to let Reverend Wright out of his safe house. Dan Wilkens, Hubert, Texas
i think your right!!! as a obama supported that was a very troubling time for me. that was a good (funny) comment, if you did not mean it to be funny, then i'd say your still right!!
the bottom line with these numbers is that people, if you like or dislike barack, you know that his religon is a very important part of his life. on the other hand you really don't get a since of how important john mccains religon is to him. as a christen this is an issue for me, i an voting for barack, but if he does not win, i'm afraid that he will bring pastor hagen(the wierd guy john mccain sought his support) with him to the white house. that scares me!!!!

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J. Ellis, Virginia — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:17:38 GMT

Who are these mystical, magical evangelicals that the politicians so ardently seek each election cycle? The more I learn about them, the more I conclude they are a bunch of hypocticial, wear their faith on their sleeves regular Joes that only care about abortion and same sex marriage. They hold politicians they don't like to higher standards than the politicans they support and after the election is over, we find out that these wonderful evangelicals are just as whore mongering, same sex having, and disgusting as any other group of people. They just break their own arms patting themselves on the back because they are against abortion and Larry and Dick marrying each other.

Evangelicals are an overrated bunch of folk who we have allowed to tell us how to think and who would make the best president. We see now, how well that has worked out for us.

I can't wait to see how John McCain handles the faith forum debate. I predict he will dissolve into a steaming pile of liquid once the tough questions about faith start coming. The man is about as spiritual as my shoe.

GO OBAMA/BIDEN 08/12

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Mc WARS — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:23:23 GMT

Here is why DIPLOMACY IS NEEDED
McWars just fueled the flames in Russia

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/13/obama-adviser-mccain-may_n_118640.html

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subgruvet, ok — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:23:59 GMT

The devil would tell you he's got religion. George Bush says he got it once upon a time......maybe. I think he lied about it just to keep his marriage together. Still he's a dunce and maybe the worst president in history. Between McCain and Obama I see only one of them as a moral man and that's Obama. I trust him and not the wife dumping, S&L cheating, tempermental old McBlinky.

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Obama/Kaine 08 — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:27:23 GMT

I find it fascinating and hypocritical at the same time for evangelicals to stand fast on the 10 commandments and then will vote for and support a candidate that has not only committed adultery, but has abandoned his first wife who needed him because of her disability. These people lie to themselves because of their own inflexibility and shortsightedness. In my opinion, they dishonor the Lord with this hypocrisy. Senator Obama has made a profession of faith in Christ. To believe and repeat the smears being e-mailed around is in direct violation of the word of G-d.

I am a white, southern, methodist female who will be gladly praying and voting for Senator Obama!

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class Warrior, D.C. — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:28:10 GMT

McCain vs. Obama: Getting religion

Obama/Kaine 08 — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:28:29 GMT

McCain vs. Obama: Getting religion

margaret, baltimore, md. — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:32:55 GMT

Obama better be as far away from McCain as possible because when he starts his twisted lies and half truths and forgets he's in the house of God. Watch out lightning!

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John Alexander,PA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:34:26 GMT

Have I noticed the ads on during the Olympics?
No.
I have no interest in either.
Summer Olympics are boring, and the networks over dramatize everything.
I'd rather go hiking, or read a book.
I just heard (snicker,snicker) that Tv will change from analog to digital in Feb. Oh darn, I sure will miss it,
NOT!

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Sally — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:39:31 GMT

McCain vs. Obama: Getting religion

BOMA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:49:13 GMT

The Evangelicals hate Obama because he's...well...not like them, and they preach uniformity of looks, thought and actions before the Gospel. And they hate McCain because he's not conservative enough, he doesn't...well, you know...think the way they want him to think.
class Warrior, D.C. (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:28 AM)

Class Warrior: You're sure on the playing the race card this a.m., aren't you? And, you still have NO CLASS.

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BOMA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:52:12 GMT

the bottom line with these numbers is that people, if you like or dislike barack, you know that his religon is a very important part of his life Jeff D Evanston IL. (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:08 AM)

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Oh, yes, we know, Jeff. His religion is Black Liberation Theology, part of the socialist movement.

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What_you_Selling — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:54:25 GMT

And for those of you who continually bring up McCain's first marriage-get over it. He was never dishonest about his behavior. His former wife continues to support him. Since she is not bitter, why are all of you liberals so bitter about it? I suspect most of you had no problem with Bill Clinton's shenanigans, but you're all over McCain's actions 30 years ago.
Sally (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 AM)

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Sally

Its cause they want to talk about any thing other then Obamas record (there is none)

His policies (radical left wing agenda they know that most Americans don’t want)

Or his views on America (All negative)

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BOMA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:56:40 GMT

Phony christians beating people over the head with bibles and have ill will in their hearts...Michelle Zee

Michelle, would that be those people from small midwestern towns that Obama called bigots that cling to their guns and religion? That from a man who professes that all are equal. I think it's pretty clear that Obama is a HUGE hypocrite.

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Let's be clear — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:57:56 GMT

McCain's indiscretions and sins of the past are indeed sad and unfortunate but let's be clear---he's not supporting Pro-adultery policies and pro-divorce policies last time I checked. And while I wish he did talk more about it, his voting record has been consistently strong on defending innocent babies who are destroyed by abortion. On the other hand, while I appreciate Obama's love for his family, his voting record indicates no room whatsoever to save the life of innocent babies via abortion. He has defended abortion like no one else.
It's amazing how some of you act like abortion is just one small issue. Has our nation gotten that numb? 50 million babies dead since 1973--and that's a small voting issue for you? May God have mercy on us!

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mccain deserted his first wife for money~mccain will go to war for oil money — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:59:55 GMT

Sally, Mccain committed adultery as a military officer. He should have been court-marsharlled and given a dishonorable discharge!
It is nice to hear you admitt to mccain's infidelities. I do believe you are wrong on one point, he has never admitted it himself. In fact, he has lied to cover-up the dates, but he has been found-out by comparing court documents. He misrepresented the situation in his books.
We will not get-over it, just like ya'll didn't get-over it and played that drum on the Clintons, get used to it. You will continue to hear more!

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mccain deserted his first wife for money~mccain will go to war for oil money — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:00:40 GMT

Sally, Mccain committed adultery as a military officer. He should have been court-marshalled and given a dishonorable discharge!
It is nice to hear you admitt to mccain's infidelities. I do believe you are wrong on one point, he has never admitted it himself. In fact, he has lied to cover-up the dates, but he has been found-out by comparing court documents. He misrepresented the situation in his books.

We will not get-over it, just like ya'll didn't get-over it and played that drum on the Clintons, get used to it. You will continue to hear more!

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Clementine St Louis — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:05:13 GMT

I come from a background when young, of Southern Baptists. We always believed in independance and courage in our beliefs. We tried awfully hard not to condemn others or to set ourselves up a having the authority of the last word on church doctrine. If we couldn't find it in the Bible we didn't do it. Living your faith was the best way to influence others. If you were against abortion, then you didn't do it. If you stop and think about it there are a lot of other crimes that go on in America that the government has no control over. The rules and regulations of liberty and democracy carry a heavy weight in our society and and those points can be argued until eternity.

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Danny North Carolina — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:06:39 GMT

I am so sick of the Republican Party referring to itself as the moral majority. They are the fear party and have brain washed America for too long. Democrats it is time to come together and unite or all you that are still complaining, will really have something to complain about if McCain wins because of you. I am sick and tired of the fear mongering Rupublicans. Republicans are in no way any more moral than any other party. They are liars and crooks out to appease the rich.

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subgruvet, ok — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:12:14 GMT

Sally I suspect you've never considered voting but one ticket. No outside the box thinking for you...no selecting the best candidate whatever their party. You've obviously bought into Limbaugh, Gingrich type fear of anything called liberal. How sad but typical. And remember your boy McBlinky has been involved in other scandal as well...the S&L type. I can't wait to see the debates how about you?

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Sally — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:18:14 GMT

It is nice to hear you admitt to mccain's infidelities. I do believe you are wrong on one point, he has never admitted it himself
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Sorry, you're wrong. He talked about it in his autobiography. It's written about in The Nightingale's Song, another biography. I recommend you read both, and learn something about patriotism and courage at the same time.

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sotiredofignorance — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:18:17 GMT

Okay, Sally, I'll bite. How on earth does a married man have an affair without being dishonest? Can't wait for your answer.

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Michelle Zee, I must be a magnet for Stupid People! — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:20:24 GMT

BOMA (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:56 AM)

Are you ignorant or just plain stupid?
I said nothing about clinging to religion or guns. My opinion is based on my view of some phoney christians. Stop reading something that is not there and for heavens sake; stop clinging to ignorance!

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S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:26 GMT

I would hope that just because one belongs to one specific religious group (or subset of a larger group) it means that you will vote for a specific candidate. I would think that people can think for themselves, but I guess I am being overly optimistic. We should all be willing to look at what we value and who best embodies those ideas.

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susan, AR — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:29:13 GMT

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LABELS FOR CHRISTIANS! EVANGELICALS ARE JUST A MADE UP NAME FOR THOSE WHO THROW THEIR HAT TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THAT'S A SHAME.

THE BIBLE DOES NOT DIVIDE CHRISTIANS INTO TITLES. TO DO SO IS JUST MISLEADING AND HAS BEEN FOR SOMETIME. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A REPUBLICAN TO BE A CHRISTIAN WE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD.

PLAYING WITH THE NAME "CHRISTIANS" WHICH GOD ASSIGNED IS THE BIGGEST JOKE AND THE MEDIA PUSHES IT. THE BIBLE HAS NOT CHANGED AND THE WORD WILL NOT CHANGE.

TO CONTINUE TO LABEL FOLK WHO WANT POWER RATHER THAN DO GOD'S WORD,FEED THE SICK, HELP THOSE IN PROVERTY, HELP SAVE THE LOST, IS JUST NOT RIGHT.

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Beverly in Chicago — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:38:25 GMT

McCain needs the religious organizations; only if they lead him to an honest MD that would schedule a MRI to rule out Alzheimer’ disease. That would really help him, this nation and the world!
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Obama voted since the mother wanted it dead, it was really only a fetus and not a human being. And, this is the man that will "respect" the rights of all people?
NObama (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:01 AM)
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Fetuses have different stages of development inside the Mothers’ wombs. More importantly, THAT WOULD BE THE MOTHER’S WISH; NOT YOUR’S!
Nobody but Obama
Nobody but Obama
Nobody but Obama
It sounds so good; I had to say it thrice.

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Tina,NC — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:39:34 GMT

Sorry folks, but once evangelicals learn the truth about Obama's refusal to ban partial birth abortion there is no way they're going to vote for him. And for those of you who continually bring up McCain's first marriage-get over it. He was never dishonest about his behavior. His former wife continues to support him. Since she is not bitter, why are all of you liberals so bitter about it? I suspect most of you had no problem with Bill Clinton's shenanigans, but you're all over McCain's actions 30 years ago.
Sally
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Sally,
I'm an evangelical that will vote for Obama. I, like Obama, support partial birth abortion when the mothers life is at stake.

Also, you left out the affair McCain had with the lobbyist in 2000. That's not 30 yrs ago.

I love how some Christians can overlook certain sins as long as it fits into their own misguided ideology.

Sally, what have YOU done to reduce the rate of abortion in this country? How many young women have you mentored? Does your church have an after-school program for young people at risk and do you volunteer? What adoption advocacy group do you work with?
My guess is NONE. Talking about how horrible abortion is does nothing to prevent abortions. If you are so passionate about preventing abortions then I suggest you get involved. Otherwise your rhetoric is just that rhetoric.

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I am totally serious! — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:43:58 GMT

Sally,
I have to spend all my money on gas. I am not able to afford the luxury of buying books anymore with the cost-of-living increase brought about by this republican administration.

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karen bourland overland park ks — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:46:08 GMT

I am a born again Christian who has always voted Republican because of abortion. After the past administration of corruption and lies, I have registered Democrat and support Obama. I am sick of Karl Rove Dick Cheney George Bush and all the other liars who run this country. I would not vote for John McCain for dogcatcher. I only hope that they are seen for what they are and this election goes for the candiadate of hope,Barack Obama. By the way, the abortion issue is solved by the Supreme Court.

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Carolyn Hardin, Hernando, MS — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:01:11 GMT

Neither McCain nor Obama are qualified to lead this country. Sad day for America when we have absolutely no one that would qualify to run for President. Our leaders are out for power, not democracy. Look at all the countries whose leaders want nothing but power. Their people are ignorant and starving. There is no democracy.